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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by SerendipityHere: 9:18am On Feb 14, 2022
I was going to type this.

Get a lawyer and go to their office with your evidence ASAP!

kennykale:


Go to their office with a lawyer

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by SerendipityHere: 9:19am On Feb 14, 2022
Perfect answer!

leef2022:


get a police report for lost of documents, then go for re-insurance of the birth certs that should suffice for reasons for recent dates on the birth certs (i.e stolen/lost of documents). Recent dates on documents is no crime if genuine. Don't give in to unnecessary fear of the unknown from a shallow op, that asks you to comitt forgery by backdating documents. He won't serve the 10 years ban with you and your family. The courts and appropriate authorities are there to make even future documents (like a WILL legal and binding).
Thanks

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by Bigbanj007: 9:32am On Feb 14, 2022
Idaytesj29:
I applied to Hull last year, I was given conditional offer very close to September. I knew I would not be able to go around that time so I defer till sept 22.

Now, the conditions I need to meet for them to send me an unconditional offer letter is

1. A professional or Academic referee
2. English language requirement

Now, this is where I need your professional experience to guide me house.

My response

1. I got and upload on the portal a letter of reference form work, cos I applied for a Master in Criminology and crime control and I work in a security outfit so I believe that will be fine.

2. I also uploaded my NECO result on the portal and i sent a result checking scratch card and NECO registration no to the PG admission office email address.

Since I sent it like a week ago, I have not heard from them.

I hope I am in order with all that I sent them?

And I have done all that is required.
First and foremost, you ought to upload academic reference. Go to your institution, ask one of your lectures to do that for you by going through the H.O.D of your department. I think it was stated on the school portal that they need academic reference.
However, it is important to tell you at this junction that Hull doesn't accept NECO.They only accepts WAEC C5 and above but you might be lucky because some courses accept C6, so it depends.
If you don't have WAEC or GCE WAEC then the only way out is IELTS or better still apply to other schools when you still have the time. I got the same two conditional offer as yours. I have uploaded my reference on my portal, accepted my offer, booked IELTS and I am about to write the exam. My advice is for you to contact admission office to delete those documents you uploaded and start afresh. Ire ooo

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by LuchiBianca(f): 9:51am On Feb 14, 2022
Choose Between occupationalal therapy and social work.
Whiterose12:
Good morning everyone,looking to study occupational therapy,social work or psychology,they are all demanding careers and I love them but I know it’s not just about loving a course it should be marketable too so could anyone help me with the job prospects which one would be more marketable especially in the Uk as an international student,thank you
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by Ehissolo: 9:58am On Feb 14, 2022
Ehissolo:
Good morning house. I have a very pressing and disturbing issue that will need your advice and opinions on what to do.

Biometrics 7th January TLS VI ( dependent)
No nsf mail
Main applicant (my wife) collected her visa on the 2nd of February.
I sent a paid mail 2nd of February, they replied that same day that decision has been made and I should wait for 10 working days for visa application centre to contact me.
I did a paid call on the 10th and was told decision has been made on my application.
I even went to TLS VI on the 11th of February to see if my visa is ready, but they said UKVI has not sent my passport to them.
Till now, when I track my application, it is still in DMC.
Right now I am confused. I don't know what else to do.
Pls I need advice from the gurus in the house on what to do.
Thanks

Pls gurus in the house, I need your advice or opinion on this
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by LuchiBianca(f): 10:00am On Feb 14, 2022
When people have this problem, your school Have you tried escalating?

Ehissolo:
Good morning house. I have a very pressing and disturbing issue that will need your advice and opinions on what to do.

Biometrics 7th January TLS VI ( dependent)
No nsf mail
Main applicant (my wife) collected her visa on the 2nd of February.
I sent a paid mail 2nd of February, they replied that same day that decision has been made and I should wait for 10 working days for visa application centre to contact me.
I did a paid call on the 10th and was told decision has been made on my application.
I even went to TLS VI on the 11th of February to see if my visa is ready, but they said UKVI has not sent my passport to them.
Till now, when I track my application, it is still in DMC.
Right now I am confused. I don't know what else to do.
Pls I need advice from the gurus in the house on what to do.
Thanks

Pls gurus in the house, I need your advice or opinion on this
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by Bigbanj007: 10:00am On Feb 14, 2022
Czsamanie:
Hello guys.

Good morning..

I've been trying to book an appointment for May. Getting this.

Any help?
no appointments yet in May but you can book April. Try and do that at night, the site is better at that time...
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by giselle237: 10:05am On Feb 14, 2022
Avoid Travelstart as a company for purchasing tickets, should any small alteration arise, this is how they quote money in the name of charges. you end up running at a loss. For what it’s worth deal directly with the airline if possible.

007s:
Hey Guys pls I used Travelstart to book UK flight and February 27th as my travel, I received confirmation mail for 27th February and proceeded to make payment, however, they sent me a ticket for 27th April. I have informed then about the error but they keep telling they don't alter bookings and that is what i booked.
I'm confused right now, as I booked flight for 27th of February. Please guys help with the way forward cos this guys are bent on collecting over 100k to correct this error, I offered to pay not more than 50k as I don't have much and the error is not from my end....nairalanders help o

Note: I still have the confirmation mail showing 27th February

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by Czsamanie: 10:16am On Feb 14, 2022
Bigbanj007:
no appointments yet in May but you can book April. Try and do that at night, the site is better at that time...
Thanks man
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by Nobody: 10:18am On Feb 14, 2022
Good morning house. Please it is possible for a person with degree in Business admin to apply for social work? and no work experience except taking care of her grandma for 3 years
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by Whiterose12: 10:19am On Feb 14, 2022
LuchiBianca:
Choose Between occupationalal therapy and social work.
Thank you
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by Ehissolo: 10:22am On Feb 14, 2022
LuchiBianca:
When people have this problem, your school Have you tried escalating?


I am a dependent. The main applicant (my wife) has gotten hers since about two weeks ago.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by visacarina: 10:44am On Feb 14, 2022
Please can someone advice me and if anyone has gotten admission and what school. I want to apply for Pgd please which school accepts 3rd class

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by Funnyafricans: 11:07am On Feb 14, 2022
I want to apply for PTA, which airline can I book for return ticket that can offer refund if I didn't use the return ticket?. Thanks
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by Masjeff14: 11:07am On Feb 14, 2022
You can find answers to both questions on the University's home page. Do your research about the school and you will be fine.Again, I doubt if Accounting will get you a skilled worker visa after psw.
Ogebaby467:
Am writing my statement of purpose to apply for a top up program in Accounting at university of chester for September intake.
I have HND in Accounting and 5 years work experience.

Can someone help me out on what to put on:
1. why i choose to study accounting at university of chester.
2. Why i choose to study in UK

Pls don't ignore
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by Sonwa: 11:17am On Feb 14, 2022
Good morning house, please I need urgent advice. I applied pta through globus, I went there on Friday and was told they don't have funds available that I should cancel the application. I applied for cancelation online and they are asking me for cancelation form which I went to globus this morning to collect but they are telling me here that I don't know how the process works that is still new to them. I want to cancel the application and use another bank but I don't know how to go about and I will be traveling by weekend.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by tolajay: 11:18am On Feb 14, 2022
Hello,

Sorry, I'm unable to see and reply. I can't access the email account.

You can create a thread and mention me with the issue. You can also use a dead thread.

Thanks
Cc goify1

joerem1:
Hi, I'll like to send you an email/ Personal message ,I need your personal view on some issues. Thanks a bunch
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by Ynniks1: 11:26am On Feb 14, 2022
Biometrics Jan 26th standard ikeja standard transferred to vac just now .... bless God

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by iviev: 11:33am On Feb 14, 2022
Hello guys. I got a conditional offer from university of derby to study international business and finance. I saw someone said a masters in accounting won’t get you a skilled work visa after psw so I want to ask what you guys think about my course . I am still waiting for feedback from salford . I applied to study finance.

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by sweetoma: 11:35am On Feb 14, 2022
tolajay:
I am unsure what your grouse is, but you've evidently become too emotional about a logical issue.

First, my comment wasn't an attack on anyone but a sympathetic analysis of some Nigerians' plight who think luck and insha is all they'll need to function in a structured society like the UK.

Let me ask you, have you seen or heard many Nigerian students stranded abroad because they didn't do their due diligence before leaving but were simply optimistic that anyhow anyhow dem go survive? Well, I see and hear it everyday. Shy away from it for all you want, it doesn't change the obvious truth. There are consequences for every action and inaction.

Another angle: do you know the number of UK-schooled Nigerians who returned home with/to almost nothing? Well, I know, see and hear this a lot. Most of them would have been better off if they stayed and invested those money in themselves back home...Sad truth!

Just last week, a Nigerian student was all over the internet seeking accommodation. Someone had to warn him because he was flaunting a major immigration declaration on accommodation.

Also, did you hear of Nigerian who couldn't his tuition after nine months, and the school asked him to withdraw and reported to the home office? May I ask what assistance you've given to these ones?

See, you may not like facing the truth, it still doesn't change the truth.

Your sense of entitlement and worldview is grossly abashed by the Nigerian society. You need to reshape.

Lastly, how did you conclude that we are on the same pedestal because of a couple of post on a faceless forum? Gullibility is no excuse for underachievement. You really need to expand your mental scope.

I wish you the best...Tap me when you're in the UK.




Lmao, I honestly laugh at and pity you. We are definitely not on the same pedestal because you are a hungry student without savings, no career plan who just arrived in the UK. When I said class I didn’t mean social class, I meant literally class room because I saw you all over the internet looking for advice on whether to enroll for a masters in Business analytics or Data Analytics at Bournemouth. Trying to figure out the value of SCRUM certification and some Ppl on this platform were able to help your confused self. I am already in the UK for info and unlike you I am not struggling to pay my bills. My fees are paid in full. Yes people get stranded for not doing their due dilligence, it’s usually ppl like you by the way. My issue is where you sit down and start writing rubbish about students with families saying they should not bring their kids on a study visa blah blah, and then when I search your post I just realized you arrive UK in January and you are also a struggling student. Keep your in-depth useless advice for newbies like yourself. If you truly want to help ppl pay instablog and warn ppl before they start the study visa path, not when you can se they have already invested and made a choice on this path, then rather than offering valuable or helpful advice, you start bashing their choices when you know at this point there’s no turning back for them. Also go home yourself, seeing as according to you it’s not a viable relocation route. You can’t come here typing rubbish to people when you don’t know their backgrounds or their net worth etc based off of a few internet posts. Do you know how much it costs to process visa for a family of 4? To pay for their accommodation? Because you used arranged POF and paid 30% of your fees you think you are a hotshot. I’m sure you lived in a shared accommodation where if you turn your body will touch both walls. You are here widing your mouth like a funnel. Idiot

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by ensamy(m): 11:35am On Feb 14, 2022
Yemsot:
My journey so far in the UK. (Please pardon my long epistle. This is to encourage someone.)

I came to the UK in 2020 via student visa for PGCE Primary with QTS (Initial Teacher Training) in the University of Wolverhampton. Training to be a teacher in the UK was not an easy feat for me (I did not have time for myself, neither could I do any part-time job until summer.) We had lectures Monday to Friday from 9am till 4pm, after which we were given loads of assignmnents. We had two placement blocks - one during the autumn term and the other from spring 2 term till the end of summer term. During the placement days we were going to our placement schools like teachers (i.e full-time). My first placement went smoothly in key stage 1, but trouble started during my second placement. I was placed in a challenging school in Walsall with students that have aggressive behaviours (year 6). I struggled with my teachers' standards and at the end the placement was declared a failed one in June. I was told I could resit the failed placement in the next academic year at no cost but for teacher training, you can only resit a placement once; I also had to look for a school myself. Furtunately for me, during the summer holiday, I was able to get a school in Norwich that was ready to take me in as a student teacher and I could start in September.
September came, and I started my 13-week placement with no issues. The school was a nice one with pleasant children. There was no indication of me not performing well until my university moderating tutor (UMT) came during the 6th week. Then she put in place a cause fior concern procedure saying I have not met some standards. I had a week to meet these standards, otherwise, it would be declared a failed placement. At the end of the 7th week, the cause for concern was reviewed and I was told I was making progress but not enough, therefore the cause for concern has been extended for another week. At the end of the eighth week when it was reviewed, they said though I had made progress, they do not feel that I could meet the teachers' standards within the five weeks remaining, therefore the placement was terminated. I was dejected and sad because my QTS journey ended there and I could not get a licence to teach in the UK. I was now told to complete and alternative assessment for me to pass the remaining academic module so that I can have a PGCE but without a QTS.

THE TROUBLE
When the placement was first terminated in June, I contacted the school's UKVI compliance office to inform them and to let them know that I would need an extension of my study visa (my visa was expiring in 31 December) because I had to resit the placement in the next academic session. The response I got was to wait till November before applying for the extension. When November came, my resit placement was terminated on the 12 but I still had the alternative assignment to do. Then I contacted the UKVI compliance office again for the extension of my visa. They contacted my faculty and lo and behold, the faculty said they did not have any reason to sponsor me since I would not be attending classes again. Meanwhile, I informed my department that I would need my result to be able to apply for the graduate visa, so, they told me to hand in to assignment on time so that it can be marked and the result collated. The result for that module was ready but the school's board was not going to sit on results until January 2022, whereas, my visa was expiring December 2021. The UKVI compliance office then sent me a mail telling me that they could not issue me a new CAS, also that they contacted the home office and they were told that I would not be eligible for the graduate visa because I did not gain the QTS with my PGCE, therefore, I should just go back to my country - even without having my result.

MY DILEMA
At that point I did not know what to do. I didn't want to go back home neither did I want to remain in the UK as an illegal immigrant.

RESOLUTION
An aunt now advised me to apply for the student visa extension using the old CAS (she said that as long as I put forward an application before my visa expires, I will remain legal until a decision is made). This application was to buy us some time to figure out available options since application within UK takes 8 weeks. Therefore, I had 8 weeks to figure things out. Lo and behold, the only option left was applying for a masters course with the PGCE. All the schools I applied to asked me to defer my application to the September intake. Even Wolverhampton was just staring at my application with no respon. Consequently, no way out.
The school did not tell me when my final result would be ready. The only mails from them was to ask about my travel preparations; if I had left the country, or if I had applied for another visa to remain in the country, in short, they wanted to know my immigration status in the country.
5 weeks after my visa application (19 January), I got a mail from the home office, requesting for a new CAS, saying the CAS I used has been used for my previous application. I was given 10 working days to provide the CAS after which a decision would be made on my application.

DAY 1 (Wednesday): I couldn't do anything.
DAY 2 (Thursday): Started getting contacts of immigration lawyers.
DAY 3 (Friday): Contacted all immigration lawyers I knew but had the same response from them - they couldn't do anything to help me.
School's UKVI compliance office sent a mail requesting for my immigration status as my visa was to have expired in December.
During that weekend I, with the encouragement of my parents, decided to mail the school (copying everyone I could). I couldn't get the VC's email, but was able to get hold of the DVC student's email. We just thought it is either the school give a favourable response or not. In the email, I itemised my plight, starting from who I am being an international student, and how I felt during the course of my studies. I even wrote that I felt I was not being supported as an international student doing teacher training in the school. Also in my mail, I said that instead of me being informed of when my result would be ready, I was being chased with depressing emails and I felt as if the school just wanted to send me away after paying a huge sum in school fees; and I was being denied the opportunity enjoyed by international students in other universities (which is the application for the graduate visa). I informed them that I applied for an extension of my student visa and that the home office is requesting a new CAS from the school.

DAY 4 (Monday): The DVC responded to the mail, and appointed the head of the UKVI compliance and the Director of the School of Education to look into the issue as a matter of urgency.
Day 5 (Tuesday): The head of the compliance office responded and said the school could no longer offer sponsorship as I didn't have to attend classes again. He even said that it was not a new thing for international students to return home before their final results was ready. Furthermore, he said that I had been told to return home but I applied for a visa extension on which a decision had not been made.
The director of the School of education also responded to say they will discuss the issues raised with my department.
DAY 6 (Wednesday): I responded to the head of compliance's mail informing him of the deadline the home office had given me. Also, I told him that I had to still be in the country to be eligible for the graduate visa, quoting the UKCISA website. Whilst referring to the UKCISA website, I said the school can still support a student visa extension if my visa expires and my results are not ready (stating that this did not require class attendance as was my case). I now wrote that I would need the student visa extension in order to be eligible for the graduate visa.
DAY 7 (Thursday): The same head of compliance responded saying he had given my case some thought and checked some issues with my faculty and said they believe they would have an option to suggest to me, saying I would be contacted later that day.
Later that day, the compliance office sent me a mail saying that my award of PGCE will be confirmed the following Monday - 31 January; and that the UKVI policy team had suggested (on 13 January) that I could go ahead to apply for the graduate visa with my PGCE - even without QTS. Therefore, they advised that I submit an application for the graduate visa, which will be a variation application to the student visa application. Furthermore, I was told that they would monitor my award with the faculty to ensure it is ready by Monday.
That very day, we arranged a meeting for Monday 31 January to submit my graduate visa application. They also requested my consent to write the home office on my behalf saying that the graduate visa application is to vary the student visa application I had made. So, I signed a consent form for them.
DAY 8 (Friday): Calmness
DAY 9 (Monday 31 January): This particular day was a battle. The school's board sat on results and awards were conferred but my student record was not updated until about 4pm in the evening. The compliance office was to send my award to home office before I submmit my application. When my records were updated, lo and behold, I was not awarded PGCE but post graduate credit! During our meeting that day they had to tell me that they couldn't send that result to the home office as it is not eligible for graduate visa; and that was not the award the faculty informed them I was going to be conferred. So, the head of compliance office said they would have to chase up the Academic registrar the following morning to sign an interim award for me pending the time the school's board will sit again. Consequently, my graduate visa application was halted.

NOTE: For graduate visa, the school sends the student's award to the home office, so the student does not have to upload award when applying for the visa.

DAY 10 (Deadline 1 February): In the morning, I mailed the head of my department and my course lead to let them know of the award I was conferred as opposed to what I was to be conferred and to ask why. Immediately, they responded that it shouldn't be and that they would look into the matter urgently. Throughout that morning, I heard nothing from the school until about 3pm when the head of compliance informed me that the interrim award has been signed by the academic registrar, and my award has been sent to the home office. Therefore, I could go ahead to submit my application.
I submitted my graduate application at about 4pm that afternoon. The compliance office also helped me to draft what would be my response to the request from the home office on my student visa application. I informed the home office that the student visa application was made with the notion that my course end date was July 2022, but my award had now been conferred by the school. Therefore, I had now applied for the graduate visa which was to vary the student visa application (quoting the reference numbers for the two applications).
The school also mailed the home office saying the same (also quoting the reference numbers for the two applications.)

The home office responded the following day, acknowledging my graduate visa application and therefore declared my student visa application as void from that day.

EXACTLY eight weeks after my student visa application, my graduate visa application was approved! I have now been granted the leave to remain in the UK for two years.

PS
I have started applying for jobs with employers that have sponsor license.
Good spirit. Congratulations.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by Agape123: 11:42am On Feb 14, 2022
Bigbanj007:
no appointments yet in May but you can book April. Try and do that at night, the site is better at that time...

I booked May 10 yesterday and all dates in May were available

Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by Ablecia(f): 11:42am On Feb 14, 2022
Ynniks1:
Biometrics Jan 26th standard ikeja standard transferred to vac just now .... bless God
Congratulations. I did mine on 27th jan, standard also at VI. With this your testimony, I have hope also
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by bunmiann: 11:48am On Feb 14, 2022
Tls VI 25th standard application just transferred to VAC

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by Naijapensioner(m): 11:53am On Feb 14, 2022
iwale:
Good afternoon the guru in the house,pls i need a list of cheap school dat can accept,3rd class degree in uk for master or post graduate course,my brother need to resume by september intake,and went to start preparing for him.and pls kindly input all what is take for him to secure the visa.ur candid input will surely go a long in is career.pls help a brother



With your 5 years experience, you can actually get a Masters admission directly.

Google ' university statement of purpose' for guidelines on answers to your question. However, do not plagiarize.

ACCA or CIMA is the good ticket for accountant in the UK. Choose a Masters programme that incorporates either of these qualifications.

Third class holders and HND holders can get 1 year UK Masters admission directly if you have valid and many work experience. Check Howoheye and my post (hosey) in the link below for UK universities that accept Masters directly from HND and Third class graduates with success stories:

https://www.nairaland.com/6331164/uk-student-visa-tier-4/372#102024310

Include Ulster university, Birmingham branch in the list too.

Also include undermentioned universities but remember, you must have reasonable years of work experience:
1. University of the West of Scotland.
2. University of Derby.
3. University of Plymouth
4. Birmingham City University.
5. University of Hull.
6. University of Huddersfield.
7. University of Lincoln
8. University of Stirling
9. Cardiff Met
10. University of Strathclyde

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by Naijapensioner(m): 11:57am On Feb 14, 2022
visacarina:
Please can someone advice me and if anyone has gotten admission and what school. I want to apply for Pgd please which school accepts 3rd class



Third class holders and HND holders can get 1 year UK Masters admission directly if you have valid and many years work experience. Check Howoheye and hosey in the link below for UK universities that accept Masters directly from HND and Third class graduates with success stories:

https://www.nairaland.com/6331164/uk-student-visa-tier-4/372#102024310

Include Ulster university, Birmingham branch in the list too.

Also include undermentioned universities but remember, you must have reasonable years of work experience:
1. University of the West of Scotland.
2. University of Derby.
3. University of Plymouth
4. Birmingham City University.
5. University of Hull.
6. University of Huddersfield.
7. University of Lincoln
8. University of Stirling
9. Cardiff Met
10. University of Strathclyde

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by maangel01: 11:57am On Feb 14, 2022
Did anyone have a problem not receiving OTP while trying to register on the e-form A portal?

Please how did you scale through this hurdle?
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by unknownknowguy: 12:05pm On Feb 14, 2022
Sonwa:
Good morning house, please I need urgent advice. I applied pta through globus, I went there on Friday and was told they don't have funds available that I should cancel the application. I applied for cancelation online and they are asking me for cancelation form which I went to globus this morning to collect but they are telling me here that I don't know how the process works that is still new to them. I want to cancel the application and use another bank but I don't know how to go about and I will be traveling by weekend.

Try apply for another bank on the portal . it should allow you even if you have an application with another bank.

someone applied to 2 different banks at the same time
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by sweetoma: 12:25pm On Feb 14, 2022
Yemsot:
My journey so far in the UK. (Please pardon my long epistle. This is to encourage someone.)

I came to the UK in 2020 via student visa for PGCE Primary with QTS (Initial Teacher Training) in the University of Wolverhampton. Training to be a teacher in the UK was not an easy feat for me (I did not have time for myself, neither could I do any part-time job until summer.) We had lectures Monday to Friday from 9am till 4pm, after which we were given loads of assignmnents. We had two placement blocks - one during the autumn term and the other from spring 2 term till the end of summer term. During the placement days we were going to our placement schools like teachers (i.e full-time). My first placement went smoothly in key stage 1, but trouble started during my second placement. I was placed in a challenging school in Walsall with students that have aggressive behaviours (year 6). I struggled with my teachers' standards and at the end the placement was declared a failed one in June. I was told I could resit the failed placement in the next academic year at no cost but for teacher training, you can only resit a placement once; I also had to look for a school myself. Furtunately for me, during the summer holiday, I was able to get a school in Norwich that was ready to take me in as a student teacher and I could start in September.
September came, and I started my 13-week placement with no issues. The school was a nice one with pleasant children. There was no indication of me not performing well until my university moderating tutor (UMT) came during the 6th week. Then she put in place a cause fior concern procedure saying I have not met some standards. I had a week to meet these standards, otherwise, it would be declared a failed placement. At the end of the 7th week, the cause for concern was reviewed and I was told I was making progress but not enough, therefore the cause for concern has been extended for another week. At the end of the eighth week when it was reviewed, they said though I had made progress, they do not feel that I could meet the teachers' standards within the five weeks remaining, therefore the placement was terminated. I was dejected and sad because my QTS journey ended there and I could not get a licence to teach in the UK. I was now told to complete and alternative assessment for me to pass the remaining academic module so that I can have a PGCE but without a QTS.

THE TROUBLE
When the placement was first terminated in June, I contacted the school's UKVI compliance office to inform them and to let them know that I would need an extension of my study visa (my visa was expiring in 31 December) because I had to resit the placement in the next academic session. The response I got was to wait till November before applying for the extension. When November came, my resit placement was terminated on the 12 but I still had the alternative assignment to do. Then I contacted the UKVI compliance office again for the extension of my visa. They contacted my faculty and lo and behold, the faculty said they did not have any reason to sponsor me since I would not be attending classes again. Meanwhile, I informed my department that I would need my result to be able to apply for the graduate visa, so, they told me to hand in to assignment on time so that it can be marked and the result collated. The result for that module was ready but the school's board was not going to sit on results until January 2022, whereas, my visa was expiring December 2021. The UKVI compliance office then sent me a mail telling me that they could not issue me a new CAS, also that they contacted the home office and they were told that I would not be eligible for the graduate visa because I did not gain the QTS with my PGCE, therefore, I should just go back to my country - even without having my result.

MY DILEMA
At that point I did not know what to do. I didn't want to go back home neither did I want to remain in the UK as an illegal immigrant.

RESOLUTION
An aunt now advised me to apply for the student visa extension using the old CAS (she said that as long as I put forward an application before my visa expires, I will remain legal until a decision is made). This application was to buy us some time to figure out available options since application within UK takes 8 weeks. Therefore, I had 8 weeks to figure things out. Lo and behold, the only option left was applying for a masters course with the PGCE. All the schools I applied to asked me to defer my application to the September intake. Even Wolverhampton was just staring at my application with no respon. Consequently, no way out.
The school did not tell me when my final result would be ready. The only mails from them was to ask about my travel preparations; if I had left the country, or if I had applied for another visa to remain in the country, in short, they wanted to know my immigration status in the country.
5 weeks after my visa application (19 January), I got a mail from the home office, requesting for a new CAS, saying the CAS I used has been used for my previous application. I was given 10 working days to provide the CAS after which a decision would be made on my application.

DAY 1 (Wednesday): I couldn't do anything.
DAY 2 (Thursday): Started getting contacts of immigration lawyers.
DAY 3 (Friday): Contacted all immigration lawyers I knew but had the same response from them - they couldn't do anything to help me.
School's UKVI compliance office sent a mail requesting for my immigration status as my visa was to have expired in December.
During that weekend I, with the encouragement of my parents, decided to mail the school (copying everyone I could). I couldn't get the VC's email, but was able to get hold of the DVC student's email. We just thought it is either the school give a favourable response or not. In the email, I itemised my plight, starting from who I am being an international student, and how I felt during the course of my studies. I even wrote that I felt I was not being supported as an international student doing teacher training in the school. Also in my mail, I said that instead of me being informed of when my result would be ready, I was being chased with depressing emails and I felt as if the school just wanted to send me away after paying a huge sum in school fees; and I was being denied the opportunity enjoyed by international students in other universities (which is the application for the graduate visa). I informed them that I applied for an extension of my student visa and that the home office is requesting a new CAS from the school.

DAY 4 (Monday): The DVC responded to the mail, and appointed the head of the UKVI compliance and the Director of the School of Education to look into the issue as a matter of urgency.
Day 5 (Tuesday): The head of the compliance office responded and said the school could no longer offer sponsorship as I didn't have to attend classes again. He even said that it was not a new thing for international students to return home before their final results was ready. Furthermore, he said that I had been told to return home but I applied for a visa extension on which a decision had not been made.
The director of the School of education also responded to say they will discuss the issues raised with my department.
DAY 6 (Wednesday): I responded to the head of compliance's mail informing him of the deadline the home office had given me. Also, I told him that I had to still be in the country to be eligible for the graduate visa, quoting the UKCISA website. Whilst referring to the UKCISA website, I said the school can still support a student visa extension if my visa expires and my results are not ready (stating that this did not require class attendance as was my case). I now wrote that I would need the student visa extension in order to be eligible for the graduate visa.
DAY 7 (Thursday): The same head of compliance responded saying he had given my case some thought and checked some issues with my faculty and said they believe they would have an option to suggest to me, saying I would be contacted later that day.
Later that day, the compliance office sent me a mail saying that my award of PGCE will be confirmed the following Monday - 31 January; and that the UKVI policy team had suggested (on 13 January) that I could go ahead to apply for the graduate visa with my PGCE - even without QTS. Therefore, they advised that I submit an application for the graduate visa, which will be a variation application to the student visa application. Furthermore, I was told that they would monitor my award with the faculty to ensure it is ready by Monday.
That very day, we arranged a meeting for Monday 31 January to submit my graduate visa application. They also requested my consent to write the home office on my behalf saying that the graduate visa application is to vary the student visa application I had made. So, I signed a consent form for them.
DAY 8 (Friday): Calmness
DAY 9 (Monday 31 January): This particular day was a battle. The school's board sat on results and awards were conferred but my student record was not updated until about 4pm in the evening. The compliance office was to send my award to home office before I submmit my application. When my records were updated, lo and behold, I was not awarded PGCE but post graduate credit! During our meeting that day they had to tell me that they couldn't send that result to the home office as it is not eligible for graduate visa; and that was not the award the faculty informed them I was going to be conferred. So, the head of compliance office said they would have to chase up the Academic registrar the following morning to sign an interim award for me pending the time the school's board will sit again. Consequently, my graduate visa application was halted.

NOTE: For graduate visa, the school sends the student's award to the home office, so the student does not have to upload award when applying for the visa.

DAY 10 (Deadline 1 February): In the morning, I mailed the head of my department and my course lead to let them know of the award I was conferred as opposed to what I was to be conferred and to ask why. Immediately, they responded that it shouldn't be and that they would look into the matter urgently. Throughout that morning, I heard nothing from the school until about 3pm when the head of compliance informed me that the interrim award has been signed by the academic registrar, and my award has been sent to the home office. Therefore, I could go ahead to submit my application.
I submitted my graduate application at about 4pm that afternoon. The compliance office also helped me to draft what would be my response to the request from the home office on my student visa application. I informed the home office that the student visa application was made with the notion that my course end date was July 2022, but my award had now been conferred by the school. Therefore, I had now applied for the graduate visa which was to vary the student visa application (quoting the reference numbers for the two applications).
The school also mailed the home office saying the same (also quoting the reference numbers for the two applications.)

The home office responded the following day, acknowledging my graduate visa application and therefore declared my student visa application as void from that day.

EXACTLY eight weeks after my student visa application, my graduate visa application was approved! I have now been granted the leave to remain in the UK for two years.

PS
I have started applying for jobs with employers that have sponsor license.

Wow, how inspiring your tenacity is. I wish you well in your quest for a job with sponsorship. You will surely succeed. Good luck

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by Atk1nson(m): 12:42pm On Feb 14, 2022
Funnyafricans:
I want to apply for PTA, which airline can I book for return ticket that can offer refund if I didn't use the return ticket?. Thanks

Yes

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by Funnyafricans: 12:48pm On Feb 14, 2022
Atk1nson:


Yes

Which airline?
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 7 by Atk1nson(m): 12:50pm On Feb 14, 2022
Funnyafricans:


Which airline?

All airlines have refundable tickets. Just ensure the return leg is booked far from the departure so you can cancel well ahead of the return flight date.

The closer the cancellation is to your return flight date, the higher the risk of charges

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