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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Techguy96(m): 3:47pm On Feb 27, 2022
DoggoneDogg:
China is indirectly telling the West that they are with Russia on this.
Are u new to this world, china and Russia are like 5 and 6, I'm even surprise they are not outrightly supporting Russia.
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by WoundedLamb: 3:47pm On Feb 27, 2022
Lol... RT is not different from any other media out outlet. They just pick the part that appeals to them. Russia did not get the support they thought they'd get from China. China is carefully avoiding any romance with them at this point while trying to be more diplomatic with the West. They decried the invasion while telling the west to reconsider. Smart move. Sleep on that fence.

Meanwhile, the West needs options. Russia isn't bringing any.

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by IJEYdiamond(f): 3:47pm On Feb 27, 2022
China go Bleep yourself... stabbing from the back *Assholes*

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by MasterShifu010(m): 3:47pm On Feb 27, 2022
all these people saying putin has been isolated , does putin look like someone who needs companionship .

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by cuteralph101(m): 3:47pm On Feb 27, 2022
BSsniffer:
Lol.....I said something similar in an earlier thread of mine. Europe/US about to get cvcked with their godforsaken swift sanction.
u joking �...If China and Russia develops a payment system, Russia still loses
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by cuteralph101(m): 3:48pm On Feb 27, 2022
Rugaria:
It is time for the developing nations to immediately find alternative to SWIFT and all other finance regulations that depend almost totally on these belligerent western imperialists for control. The world was created free and shouldn't revolve eternally around the dictates of colonialists and imperialists..The west as now enjoyed almost 200 years of total global domination of affairs. We need a change, since all they care about is their interests and people..
Sadly, there is but to do business in a global stage that involves the big guns u need the majority to decide. QED
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by ednut1(m): 3:48pm On Feb 27, 2022
Truthisunique2:
grin grin Putin don dey beg China to speak Against sanction on his behalf

If Ukraine is a sovereign state then it has its right to determine who it alligns with

Swallow your pride and woo Ukraine, everything no be force
but will usa allow Russia or china place weapons in Mexico or cuba Google cuban missile crisis. Una go just dey open mouth like muntula

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by pansophist(m): 3:49pm On Feb 27, 2022
complexBoss12:
It's a pity that the people of Ukraine will be sacrificed for a new world order. As I said in my previous post few days ago, Putin would rather seen an end to the world than end like Hitler, and just today, he put nuclear weapons on alert over sanctions.

Putin ain't playing by any rules.

Ukrainian President thinks it sounds good to "die a hero" But I will tell you guys for free "there is nothing heroic about death". If you have watched someone die, it's painful and inglorious.

Recognizing than someone is stronger than you is not a sign of weakness but strength. The president of Ukraine is being used as a pawn, in a game that is bigger him. He is sacrificing his people for stupid pride. It's a natural the weak, will be a subject to the strong. Talk to Putin, negotiate. mind you that, Russia hasn't even started war, they are more less playing the deplomatic game of threatening you to come for negotiation, if they decide to end Ukraine in 24 hours it will be done.

You can still quote me and talk rubbish, but sentiment don't win wars. I am being practical here. In international politics, once deplomacy fails, people get hurt.

The people that have a sense on nairaland are not the majority. Many due to their love for the west will make them support anything the US does. I love and live in the west myself, but I hate this game America is playing. `~If Russia goes down, who will be next? On an individual level, I won't live in the same neighborhood with someone that considers me as a rival, it's just self-protection. What more about NATO, which was created specifically to contain Russia?

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by InoGetJoy: 3:49pm On Feb 27, 2022
complexBoss12:
It's a pity that the people of Ukraine will be sacrificed for a new world order. As I said in my previous post few days ago, Putin would rather seen an end to the world than end like Hitler, and just today, he put nuclear weapons on alert over sanctions.

Putin ain't playing by any rules.

Ukrainian President thinks it sounds good to "die a hero" But I will tell you guys for free "there is nothing heroic about death". If you have watched someone die, it's painful and inglorious.

Recognizing than someone is stronger than you is not a sign of weakness but strength. The president of Ukraine is being used as a pawn, in a game that is bigger him. He is sacrificing his people for stupid pride. It's a natural the weak, will be a subject to the strong. Talk to Putin, negotiate. mind you that, Russia hasn't even started war, they are more less playing the deplomatic game of threatening you to come for negotiation, if they decide to end Ukraine in 24 hours it will be done.

You can still quote me and talk rubbish, but sentiment don't win wars. I am being practical here. In international politics, once deplomacy fails, people get hurt.
People will quote you and say rubbish, but what you've said is 100% fact

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Raph3177(m): 3:49pm On Feb 27, 2022
Truthisunique2:
grin grin Putin don dey beg China to speak Against sanction on his behalf

If Ukraine is a sovereign state then it has its right to determine who it alligns with

Swallow your pride and woo Ukraine, everything no be force
But not at the security disadvantage of another. I stand with Russia
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Lordswazz(m): 3:49pm On Feb 27, 2022
pansophist:
Finally, a country that is making sense.

The US has bombed at least 200 countries compared to Russia but they are termed ''liberation, freedom, fight against evil, defend of democracy''. Because ''you can'' join NATO doesn't mean ''you should'', if not, Iran should not be sanctioned to death because it want to create nuclear weapons.

I don't want to live in a world where the rule that applies to one, is used to punish the other. Sadly, lots of zombies are happy in such kind of world. Only the power of media Russia doesn't have, that is why it seems like everyone is sympathetic to Ukrainians. This is about the survival of Russia as a country, and when it comes to survival, international law can go to hell. You should be alive first, before talking about the law.

One major problem Russia has in terms of media power is language. The West (US, the UK and France specifically) will always have the upper hand in media propaganda due to the widespread adoption of their languages.

The US have benefited immensely from the foundation the British set via colonialism, making sure about 1/4 of the world speaks some form of English. France holds sway in most francofone African countries and others like parts of Belgium and Canada. There is no way you can defeat these people even with the naked truth.

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Nobody: 3:50pm On Feb 27, 2022
ednut1:
but will usa allow Russia or china place weapons in Mexico or cuba Google cuban missile crisis. Una go just dey open mouth like muntula

Should Ukraine become Russia's 'buffer' when it clearly does not want to?

(Your question is valid by the way, but Ukraine too has rights. Better not take sides. )

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by jimmychang: 3:50pm On Feb 27, 2022
InoGetJoy:
People don't know that the ultimate game being played by the West is to cripple Russia and after that, they'll go after China. There must be a balance of power in the world and Russia has been providing that balance. Herd mentality won't allow people know that US is the culprit, and they're just using Ukraine as a puppet

You won't blame them.THE WEST controls the media.People don't know how to think.

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by neuf(m): 3:51pm On Feb 27, 2022
Let's take a back seat for a second.

Like do this people what it will mean for NATO to be like we can't accept Ukraine because Russia said so?

an outsider dictating for a bloc?

imagine you going to the Army to tell them not to accept your brother's application. Who give you such loud?

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by InoGetJoy: 3:51pm On Feb 27, 2022
SultanOfPuna:
This war go make the world forget that China started Coronvirus.
Everywhere Ukraine this ukraine that

The whole world focused on Russia
Everybody has forgetten about china and coronavirus


China happy right now
Coronavirus actually started from US and was brought into China by athletes from the US, but that's a story for another day

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by cuteralph101(m): 3:51pm On Feb 27, 2022
pansophist:
Finally, a country that is making sense.

The US has bombed at least 200 countries compared to Russia but they are termed ''liberation, freedom, fight against evil, defend of democracy''. Because ''you can'' join NATO doesn't mean ''you should'', if not, Iran should not be sanctioned to death because it want to create nuclear weapons.

I don't want to live in a world where the rule that applies to one, is used to punish the other. Sadly, lots of zombies are happy in such kind of world. Only the power of media Russia doesn't have, that is why it seems like everyone is sympathetic to Ukrainians. This is about the survival of Russia as a country, and when it comes to survival, international law can go to hell. You should be alive first, before talking about the law.
US might have done wrong but mehn no country can guide the whole world. Imagine a country try deploying Commands for each Continent. For Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance they share Intel to countries of interest to help fight too. They may have their flaws but mehn

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by pocohantas(f): 3:51pm On Feb 27, 2022
perambulator:
This is why the world needs countries like Russia, China, Saudi, Even North Korea...whatever you may say about them they keep the Wests expansionist tendencies in Check!!!!! If the world gets their way with Russia they will come for Africa next!!!! it is always the West that start atrocities, they are the one who colonize ans try to impose their ways on the world!!

The non western world needs Russia and China, Africa especially needs Russia and China...without them we are fuck3d!!!

Lol. I found it funny that you mentioned countries, then closed it by saying AFRICA. I like that you know they can take on the whole continent as opposed to those countries you mentioned individually. cheesy

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Nobody: 3:51pm On Feb 27, 2022
backbencher:


And you think that Russia, China, Saudi don't also have expansionist aims and objectives (Saudi that is fighting with Iran for middle east domination? China that is trying to intimidate South East Asia? Russia that basically keeps itself safe by manipulating governments in its neighbourhood?

At the end of the day, big nations get big interests...including the US and your favoirite nations.


I have never heard China, Russia etc colonize any African country, I have never heard China Russia tell anybody you must organize your country our way or else we impose sanctions, I have nevere heard Russia ior China say you must have same sex marraige or allow transgender nonsense etc or else we impose sanctions. I have never heard Russia or China create a world order and them tell everybody else you must conform or else!!! None of them are our friends but the Russians and chinese dont pretend to be our friends while trying to colonise us mentally! Whether you like it or not one of the reasons Nigeria doesnt work is because we have adopted a western style democracy that doesnt work for us!!!!

I have never heard Russia China Saudi North Korea create problems outside their own continent particularly in Africa!!!! it is always the Western world trying to impose their ways on others!!!

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Pipefitter: 3:51pm On Feb 27, 2022
Kingpin1000:

.should Russia allow NATO to build a base in Ukraine?
Technically, you mean I need my neighbors permission to rent out a portion of my land, is that? Is Ukraine a Russian territory/state? A sovereign country has right to determine what's best for them.

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Rugaria: 3:51pm On Feb 27, 2022
MT:


May I suggest you to research about SWIFT first. And may I tell you that China and Russia have their own versions of SWIFT which can match up in any specification to SWIFT.

The west is where the economic and military power reside. Accept it.

Economic power? Maybe. Military power? Absolutely not..
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by SmartyPants(m): 3:52pm On Feb 27, 2022
Rugaria:
It is time for the developing nations to immediately find alternative to SWIFT and all other finance regulations that depend almost totally on these belligerent western imperialists for control. The world was created free and shouldn't revolve eternally around the dictates of colonialists and imperialists..The west as now enjoyed almost 200 years of total global domination of affairs. We need a change, since all they care about is their interests and people..

Ordinary PayPal, we have been struggling to find alternatives. Its SWIFT you want to replace.

My guy shift away.

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Trentee4eva: 3:52pm On Feb 27, 2022
Truthisunique2:
grin grin Putin don dey beg China to speak Against sanction on his behalf

If Ukraine is a sovereign state then it has its right to determine who it alligns with

Swallow your pride and woo Ukraine, everything no be force
The same way US woo Cuba during the Cuba missile crises abi. I guess Cuba was not a sovereign country shocked

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by InoGetJoy: 3:52pm On Feb 27, 2022
MT:
China has seen what is coming for them if they attempt to invade Taiwan. US is praying that China should do it, so that they can be hit like they have never experienced before.
It's funny that it's Nigerians who are creating a larger-than-life image of the US. If US were to attempt an invasion of China, I trust the chinese shaa
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by DoggoneDogg: 3:52pm On Feb 27, 2022
Techguy96:

Are u new to this world, china and Russia are like 5 and 6, I'm even surprise they are not outrightly supporting Russia.

They are playing the Western deceptive tactics too.
Two can play the game.
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Archworld(m): 3:53pm On Feb 27, 2022
Kingpin1000:
Everyone can see NATO are the aggressors and Russians are just defending themselves from a sudden attack on the west.

Sanders, US senator said the same thing. US will not allow Mexico or Cuba to form a military alliance with their arch enemy Russia. Yet, US want to penetrate Russia by forming military alliance with Ukraine. US own the media that is why we see Russia and Putin as a dictator. And most of the key western countries are already with NATO , so it is easy for them to join US and sanction Russia

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by InoGetJoy: 3:53pm On Feb 27, 2022
bestman09:
shocked
Birds of the same feather. That's how China is terrorizing Taiwan
and US is terrorizing the rest of the world, no be so?

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Svoboda(m): 3:53pm On Feb 27, 2022
Kingpin1000:
Everyone can see NATO are the aggressors and Russians are just defending themselves from a sudden attack on the west.


Thank you very much.

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Help2020: 3:53pm On Feb 27, 2022
Truthisunique2:
grin grin Putin don dey beg China to speak Against sanction on his behalf

If Ukraine is a sovereign state then it has its right to determine who it alligns with

Swallow your pride and woo Ukraine, everything no be force
If Russia line up missile in Canada will US agree? Make una dey use una sense abeg.

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by ictplotter(m): 3:54pm On Feb 27, 2022
Truthisunique2:
grin grin Putin don dey beg China to speak Against sanction on his behalf

If Ukraine is a sovereign state then it has its right to determine who it alligns with

Swallow your pride and woo Ukraine, everything no be force
I wish u and ur family ar in Ukrain now, u will not be typing this rubbish.
The entire Nato countries plus Ukraine are too small for putin, media audio sanctions.
Last last Ukrain and Nato media warlords will forever regret crossing limits with Putin. Watch out how this will end, this invasion is about Ukrain but America with noise of the most power nation on earth.
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Nobody: 3:55pm On Feb 27, 2022
pocohantas:


Lol. I found it funny that you mentioned countries, then closed it by saying AFRICA. I like that you know they can take on the whole continent as opposed to those countries you mentioned individually. cheesy

I dont get your point. The whole of Africa is in danger from Western dominance, its not a country specific thing, that idiot Obama tried it in Kenya, luckily their president told him where to Bleep off, Cameron tried to threaten us unless we approved same sex marraiges!! We are paying for what they did to the only strongman in Africa, All the arms in the hands of Fulani herdsmen came from Libya after the fall of Ghaddafi...a NATO backed invasion!!!

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by pansophist(m): 3:55pm On Feb 27, 2022
Lordswazz:


One major problem Russia has in terms of media power is language. The West (US, the UK and France specifically) will always have the upper hand in media propaganda due to the widespread adoption of their languages.

The US have benefited immensely from the foundation the British set via colonialism, making sure about 1/4 of the world speaks some form of English. France holds sway in most francofone African countries and others like parts of Belgium and Canada. There is no way you can defeat these people even with the naked truth.

Thank you.

People seem not to realize that is a war against humanity in itself. It is also because of NATO that made China enter the Korean war, because it wants to survive, and doesn't want American missiles near its borders. If China didn't enter that war and was nuked, how will Africa as a whole survive? Our continent is so poor that what is keeping us thriving now is China, from loans to their cheap products. 8 of every Nigerian uses infinix and Tecno, all made in China, cheap, and can do more or less of Iphones that cost close to a million naira.

China, Russia, and Iran seem to be the only country fighting against western imperialism, and if these countries go down, the world is gone. You think colonialism is worse, you have seen anything yet. Like everything in life, there should be balance of power. My prayer are with Russians.

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by chronique(m): 3:55pm On Feb 27, 2022
backbencher:


Should Ukraine become Russia's 'buffer' when it clearly does not want to?

(Your question is valid by the way, but Ukraine too has rights. Better not take sides. )

That was what Putin asked them for. That they maintain neutrality just like Finland. Finland has never been under any threat from Russia and they have been living peacefully as neighbors cos they maintain the principle of neutrality. They are not in NATO.

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