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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Nobody: 4:17pm On Feb 27, 2022
ivolt:
Of course, China will speak out against sanctions as it is also a victim of many sanctions.

But what Putin really needs from China is an outright declaration of support.
Unfortunately for Putin, China has always been opposed to invading sovereign countries under any pretence.
It cannot back the invasion without destroying its long held anti-invasion stand.

I don't trust China. They are playing siddon look tactics. If Russia succeeds in taking over the Ukraine, all the sovereign nations surrounding China are not safe.
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by rickleye: 4:17pm On Feb 27, 2022
Karemarealty288:

This is why I love Nairaland political analysts....

Some history here…
Do you realize that in 1991 Ukraine when they split from USSR had the 3rd largest stockpile behind US and Russia.
Those 2 provided security guarantees that there will come to Ukraine aid if and when attacked. And so Ukraine agreed to destroy their stockpile. Who’s breaking their agreement ?
From 2010-2014 Putin installed his puppet in Ukraine - Yanukovych ( something you conveniently avoided to mention )
He was removed during the Orange Revolution.
There was a president from 2014-2019. Ukraine needed funds from US for defence weapons - Trump ( Russian Stooge) withhold funds for 6 months because he wanted dirt on Biden.
The people elect this current president who favours democratic institutions and now he’s a US pupit.
No matter that Russian issues are Ukraine have not bombed Russia or sent secret incursions into the Russia.
I want for Russia to invade a NATO country and let’s see how he would like the dance. All he has done is make countries want to join NATO or spend more on their defence capabilities .
These are actions of a bully - why couldn’t he apply sanctions like US have done to Cuba , Venezuela and other countries . Armed conflict are actions of a bully

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Deepthoughts: 4:17pm On Feb 27, 2022
complexBoss12:
It's a pity that the people of Ukraine will be sacrificed for a new world order. As I said in my previous post few days ago, Putin would rather seen an end to the world than end like Hitler, and just today, he put nuclear weapons on alert over sanctions.

Putin ain't playing by any rules.

Ukrainian President thinks it sounds good to "die a hero" But I will tell you guys for free "there is nothing heroic about death". If you have watched someone die, it's painful and inglorious.

Recognizing than someone is stronger than you is not a sign of weakness but strength. The president of Ukraine is being used as a pawn, in a game that is bigger him. He is sacrificing his people for stupid pride. It's a natural the weak, will be a subject to the strong. Talk to Putin, negotiate. mind you that, Russia hasn't even started war, they are more less playing the deplomatic game of threatening you to come for negotiation, if they decide to end Ukraine in 24 hours it will be done.

You can still quote me and talk rubbish, but sentiment don't win wars. I am being practical here. In international politics, once deplomacy fails, people get hurt.
The only reason I won't argue much about this is that Ukraine isn't a member of NATO,if Putin really thinks he is supreme then let him attack a NATO member nation, Ukraine is getting foreign aid from various countries via polish land borders, Poland is a NATO member let Putin make good his threat n attack Poland n let's see.

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Nobody: 4:18pm On Feb 27, 2022
Bigchristo:
President JF Kennedy once ordered an air strike on Cuba for preventing them from Joining the same NATO because Cuba is their neighboring country so why is the Russia invasion on Ukraine taking a twist? Is Cuba not a sovereign nation? I demand an honest answer otherwise Your judgement is biased and baseless

Cuba is a long and complex story, and no JFK did not order a airstrike on Cuba, and the time he could have, he did not (something which is alleged angered a lot of people who allegedly may have plotted his assasination...one of many suspects mind. I myself blame Oswald alone)

But to give you a brief potted history of the Cuba issue

1.In 1959...Castro took over. In the process, a lot of the ruling Cuban elite were dispossessed, and that included, a lot of people with links to the American business and politcal elite who were not happy.

2.Castro then rubbed salt in the wound by allying with the USSR, and declaring Cuba communist.

3.1961...JFK tries to back a coup led by Cubans opposed to Castro...which failed (Bay of Pigs invasion).

4.After that failure ( one of the CIA's biggest...and it failed in part because JFK refused to order an airstrike)....Castro in essence asked for help from his Soviet firends...and Khrushchev placed missiles...nuclear missiles on the Island.

5.That led to a great crisis...where the world came close to nuclear war...before eventually the Soviets removed their missiles in return for the USA removing some missiles from Turkey. Nuclear war averted.

6.Cuba never asked for NATO membership, even in the pre-castro era.

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by chronique(m): 4:18pm On Feb 27, 2022
backbencher:


Putin also wants them to put in place governments that answer to him, same as the US wants governments that are favourable to them. Either way, Ukraine wants its own freedom( and for its legit government, staying under NATO is the answer. For me it is crap, but there we have it). Invasion is not the answer.

At the end, for me, it is two power blocs fighting each other for power using NATO and Russia as their proxies. That is the way of the world.

Putin does not need them answering to him. All he wants is neutrality just like Finland.
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Bigchristo: 4:18pm On Feb 27, 2022
complexBoss12:
It's a pity that the people of Ukraine will be sacrificed for a new world order. As I said in my previous post few days ago, Putin would rather seen an end to the world than end like Hitler, and just today, he put nuclear weapons on alert over sanctions.

Putin ain't playing by any rules.

Ukrainian President thinks it sounds good to "die a hero" But I will tell you guys for free "there is nothing heroic about death". If you have watched someone die, it's painful and inglorious.

Recognizing than someone is stronger than you is not a sign of weakness but strength. The president of Ukraine is being used as a pawn, in a game that is bigger him. He is sacrificing his people for stupid pride. It's a natural the weak, will be a subject to the strong. Talk to Putin, negotiate. mind you that, Russia hasn't even started war, they are more less playing the deplomatic game of threatening you to come for negotiation, if they decide to end Ukraine in 24 hours it will be done.

You can still quote me and talk rubbish, but sentiment don't win wars. I am being practical here. In international politics, once deplomacy fails, people get hurt.
You spoke very well from the right angle but trust me Some of we Nigerians are bend on what they’ve been told instead of doing a research and understand how this whole thing started, they’re all screaming Russia is evil and see US and it’s allies as the saint.
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by venabili: 4:18pm On Feb 27, 2022
richardtimothy:


Why Russia depriving Ukraine of their own self-will?

Another man go leave him own house come dey make decision for you in your own house. Brother no be soooo

Imagine your next door neighbour suddenly stockpiling 30litres kegs filled with petrol inside his own house or apartment. Will you respect his right to do so?
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Reference(m): 4:18pm On Feb 27, 2022
Help2020:

If Russia line up missile in Canada will US agree? Make una dey use una sense abeg.

Oga the world has moved beyond all that. Both nations have ballistic missile submarines patrolling the globe in stealth constantly.

The Russians are often in the Atlantic just outside the maritime border of the US and the US/NATO in the Black Sea correspondingly.

With the exception of tactical nukes, you don't need proximity in today's strategic chess board.
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Nobody: 4:18pm On Feb 27, 2022
pansophist:
Finally, a country that is making sense.

The US has bombed at least 200 countries spreading their hegemony compared to Russia but they are termed ''liberation, freedom, fight against evil, defend of democracy'' etc. Because ''you can'' doesn't mean ''you should'' join nato, if not, Iran should not be sanctioned to death because it want to create nuclear weapons, and the US should not have almost nuked Cuba when Russia placed its missiles there in the 90's. Right now, Cuba is still under the heaviest sanctions for so many decades. Why the double standards?

I don't want to live in a world where the rule that applies to one, is used to punish the other. Sadly, lots of zombies are happy in such kind of world. Only the ''power of media'' Russia doesn't have, that is why it seems like everyone is sympathetic to Ukrainians. How about the thousands of ethnic Russians Ukraine have killed in Donbas? The west ignored all these because they want to use Ukraine as a pawn to contain Russia. And after Russia, probably China, and then, the whole world will permanently be chained under western hegemony. If you think colonialism was bad, you haven't seen anything yet. Just pray that day never comes.

This is about the survival of Russia as a country and humanity as a whole because when it comes to survival, international law can go to hell. You should be alive first, before talking about the law. The security of and existence of Russia have to be guaranteed before it can grow economically. What's the point of letting NATO in your backyard, and even if you develop like Norway, you can be nuked within ten mins, making it impossible to defend and retaliate? be careful when you support the west. This is a fight against evil.

The Cuban missile crisis was in the 60s, not 90s. I guess it was a typo.

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by bepositive11: 4:19pm On Feb 27, 2022
Kingpin1000:

.should Russia allow NATO to build a base in Ukraine?

Ukraine wants NATO to build a base in their country. That's all that matters
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Holaomoakin(m): 4:19pm On Feb 27, 2022
Russia/Ukraine's legitimate demand, China/Taiwan's legitimate demand. Eye service States.
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by freshkpomo(m): 4:19pm On Feb 27, 2022
Kingpin1000:
Everyone can see NATO are the aggressors and Russians are just defending themselves from a sudden imaginary attack on the west.
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Princedapace(m): 4:19pm On Feb 27, 2022
Truthisunique2:
grin grin Putin don dey beg China to speak Against sanction on his behalf

If Ukraine is a sovereign state then it has its right to determine who it alligns with

Swallow your pride and woo Ukraine, everything no be force

Why did America go gaga when Russia wanted to build military relationship with Cuba?

Lol, make China go dey do military partnership with Mexico and see what USA will do.

No human on earth will like to have their enemy at their backyard. Not even USA.
USA also invaded a sovereign state.. They have done it many times..

That is what makes them world power which Russia is part of. World powers fight any country that threatens their interest.

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by cobsol(m): 4:19pm On Feb 27, 2022
complexBoss12:
It's a pity that the people of Ukraine will be sacrificed for a new world order. As I said in my previous post few days ago, Putin would rather seen an end to the world than end like Hitler, and just today, he put nuclear weapons on alert over sanctions.

Putin ain't playing by any rules.

Ukrainian President thinks it sounds good to "die a hero" But I will tell you guys for free "there is nothing heroic about death". If you have watched someone die, it's painful and inglorious.

Recognizing than someone is stronger than you is not a sign of weakness but strength. The president of Ukraine is being used as a pawn, in a game that is bigger him. He is sacrificing his people for stupid pride. It's a natural the weak, will be a subject to the strong. Talk to Putin, negotiate. mind you that, Russia hasn't even started war, they are more less playing the deplomatic game of threatening you to come for negotiation, if they decide to end Ukraine in 24 hours it will be done.

You can still quote me and talk rubbish, but sentiment don't win wars. I am being practical here. In international politics, once deplomacy fails, people get hurt.


My brother no body can end any body within 24hrs, days or even months as you think or illustrate in your small mind, as a matter of fact Russia are getting it hotter than they thought, have lost over 500 foot fighters, tanks and helicopter yet not able to hold down 1 city in 4days, you would have thought that in a matter of minutes Russians will break through.

It's not a matter of dieing a hero but there's enough for everything mind you this is the 4th time Putin is invading Ukraine at any provocation, let heavens fall, infact Putin should nuke let all hell break loose, we are tiered of constant treats.

Only God have power, no many can undo everyone.
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by complexBoss12: 4:20pm On Feb 27, 2022
Karemarealty288:

This is why I love Nairaland political analysts....

I am actually in this position right, the only difference being that my legs are on a Chair and the toilet is bit farther than that.
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Najdorf: 4:20pm On Feb 27, 2022
Kingpin1000:

.should Russia allow NATO to build a base in Ukraine?
You don't get it?

Russia already crippled Ukraine from joining NATO in 2014 when they illegally annexed Crimea. A country having border disputes(which Crimea falls under) can not join NATO.

Putin himself knew that the narrative of him invading Ukraine as a means of stopping the NATO expansion made no sense which is why he is now going with the "Ukranian government are " Neo-nazis" route.

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by ogaontop(m): 4:20pm On Feb 27, 2022
Kingpin1000:
Everyone can see NATO are the aggressors and Russians are just defending themselves from a sudden attack on the west.

Russia cannot dictate if Ukraine (A sovereign country) joins NATO or not
What are they defending when they invaded and scattered another person's land
They should play better international politics and draw Ukraine closer if they don't want them to join NATO
Less than a week into the invasion, he's already going nuclear, that's a sure sign of weakness!
So he can't even fight against Ukraine without NUKES?
So what happens when he fights US or UK?
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Nobody: 4:20pm On Feb 27, 2022
aribisala0:
Nothing happens in a vacuum

To understand today you must understand history
In WW 2 Russia lost 24 million lives . More than the whole of Europe Germany the USA and UK combined

This happened because attacks came through its neighbours
In the End it was Russia that FREED those countries from Germany
Russia must have oversight of military build-up in its neighbours it will not allow that to happen again

So when you start talking grammar about sovereign state Russia's response is We guarantee the security in our neighbourhood. We will not outsource that to our enemies NATO


As long as folk are blind to that history they are just talking nonsense

Security in Europe is based on the fact that there was a WW II and there was a settlement after that with the recognition of different power spheres. Id you want to change that by force or trick then the message is WW !! resumes to address any issues that are not clear

If you do not know what happened in WW !! or the Cold war you are talking ignorantly

Germany occupied Slovakia, Ukraine Romania ,Czech Republic, Lithuania, Hungary, Yugoslavia, Poland and these were ALL liberated by the Soviet union
with major loss of life to Russia.

To say O all that was just good Samaritan work i and NATO can now com and take over that space is a funny joke. Before that happens there will be WW III




I am aware of all that, and aware of why Russia does all that...which is why I have repeatedly said....Russia has valid concerns.

But those concerns don't knock off Ukranian concerns either. Nor does it knock off Ukraine's desire not to be a Russian colony as well.

Which is why I ain't taking sides here, like you are doing. As far as I am concerned...na East side -West Side. Tupac vs Biggy , Political style.
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by mixta140: 4:21pm On Feb 27, 2022
Kingpin1000:
Everyone can see NATO are the aggressors and Russians are just defending themselves from a sudden attack on the west.
Its not rocket science...
US are the biggest player here playing the mind games... Wicked America and stupid west... Ukraine too dont have sense letting one devil pushing them around now they are the one suffering the most. Either America like it or not .... nothing is forever
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by pansophist(m): 4:21pm On Feb 27, 2022
kingthreat:


Exactly. Russia has all weapons but that of the media.
Media made the world see Muammar Gaddafi as the most wicked man on Earth. Media made Saddam look like he had nuclear weapons. It is crazy.

Exactly. The west shamelessly lies that it is sickening. The west is so paranoid about the continuity of their existence. They have destroyed the world to such an extent that they are paranoid that if power shifts to other regions of the world, particularly Euroasia, they will get the same treatment they gave others. Their end game is to destroy any rising power that could potentially challenge them, hence they are going after Russia, then China, and if they succeed, the world is toast. Welcome to permanent slavery.

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by eguarojeona: 4:21pm On Feb 27, 2022
HenryDion:
China is still neutral until it escalates to a nuclear war. Then you'll see them joining with Russia to finally annihilate the west.

A few hours ago North Korea launched a ballistic missile as a test. What was the point? I don't know. A show of power?

If this end with one nuclear launch, the world will never remain the same again.
For the past 30years china has the highest number of foreign students in US and UK.Its what made them this developed.They didnt go to russia .Most of y'all just dont really know anything.
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Nobody: 4:23pm On Feb 27, 2022
chronique:


Putin does not need them answering to him. All he wants is neutrality just like Finland.

And now the Finns are running to NATO as a result of the invasion

(Plus, Finland and Russia have a history, and it didn't go well enough for Russia last time. Also, Finland has a very tiny population. Pragmatisim works for them)

Having said that, Ukraine has a right to be neutral, join NATO, or join Russia without anyone invading them. Russia too has a right not to be encircled by US proxies. It does not have to end in invasion, and the two sides in Ukraine can also learn how to stop fighting for power.
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by mixta140: 4:24pm On Feb 27, 2022
complexBoss12:
It's a pity that the people of Ukraine will be sacrificed for a new world order. As I said in my previous post few days ago, Putin would rather seen an end to the world than end like Hitler, and just today, he put nuclear weapons on alert over sanctions.

Putin ain't playing by any rules.

Ukrainian President thinks it sounds good to "die a hero" But I will tell you guys for free "there is nothing heroic about death". If you have watched someone die, it's painful and inglorious.

Recognizing than someone is stronger than you is not a sign of weakness but strength. The president of Ukraine is being used as a pawn, in a game that is bigger him. He is sacrificing his people for stupid pride. It's a natural law that the weak, should be subject to the strong. Talk to Putin, negotiate. mind you that, Russia hasn't even started war, they are more less playing the deplomatic game of threatening you to come for negotiation, if they decide to end Ukraine in 24 hours it will be done.

You can still quote me and talk rubbish, but sentiment don't win wars. I am being practical here. In international politics, once deplomacy fails, people get hurt.
Many dont get this thing ... they are thinking its movie
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Danwakae(m): 4:24pm On Feb 27, 2022
backbencher:




Both of you make sense, seriously.

At the end, that's why both of you should not take sides here. Russia has no business invading Ukraine, and Ukraine has no business allowing an enemy of Russia to set up shop in its country.


Russia does not have riiite to attack Ukraine for joining any body ... That's why it's a sovereign state , can make decision on its own ...look are Putin is killer innocent people , how many people has Putin fear(NATO) killed ??, where is the NATO now ?.... What about Israel that is border by almost all enemies .?, wht didn't Israel attack Lebanon for allowinv enemies to set a military base in Lebanon ??... This is pure oppression... No amount of sanction can bring back the lives Putin killed
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Oyiboman69: 4:24pm On Feb 27, 2022
Rugaria:
It is time for the developing nations to immediately find alternative to SWIFT and all other finance regulations that depend almost totally on these belligerent western imperialists for control. The world was created free and shouldn't revolve eternally around the dictates of colonialists and imperialists..The west has now enjoyed almost 200 years of total global domination of affairs. We need a change, since all they care about is their interests and people..
how I wish that African leaders can view this from your devine perspective. you have the foresight of a Jewish prophet,and unfortunately, they will prefer to wallow in incompetence and slave and Master mentality....

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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Nobody: 4:25pm On Feb 27, 2022
perambulator:


Come back when you have finished a remedial course in English comprehension!!!

Ah, I can't talk when people start abusing me. Can't argue with that.

Good evening. Have a good day. As for me Russia=US=China. Sorry putin supporter. But I cannot and will not support any big nation expansionist things, whatever big nation may be

You can cry about that.
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by chronique(m): 4:25pm On Feb 27, 2022
neuf:


that's definitely what it implies. You can't decide how NATO runs its affairs. How would its members perceive such action?
If NATO agrees to such outrageous demand, the whole world will be talking about how NATO is a paper tiger and Putin is the man. Undermining NATO interest all over the world.

Russia isn't a world power, it's a regional power in Eurasia. The USSR was world power, Russia isn't.

Finland neutrality that the same Putin has now put in jeopardy that the country is considering requesting for NATO membership.

Global politics is diplomacy not show or threat of force . Instead of demanding NATO to stop Ukraine, why not lobby say Germany and some other countries that were friendly to Russia like Hungary and the rest to veto Ukraine request.
Isn't that the best solution in all this?

Russia is a world power. You can't change that based on your sentiments on the topic. Do your research and don't try to misinform people on this subject please.
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by careersome: 4:25pm On Feb 27, 2022
Truthisunique2:
grin grin Putin don dey beg China to speak Against sanction on his behalf

If Ukraine is a sovereign state then it has its right to determine who it alligns with

Swallow your pride and woo Ukraine, everything no be force
bro you are wrong on this. Let Russia go and place military hardware in Mexico or Cuba and see what Anerica will do.
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by venabili: 4:25pm On Feb 27, 2022
complexBoss12:
It's a pity that the people of Ukraine will be sacrificed for a new world order. As I said in my previous post few days ago, Putin would rather seen an end to the world than end like Hitler, and just today, he put nuclear weapons on alert over sanctions.

Putin ain't playing by any rules.

Ukrainian President thinks it sounds good to "die a hero" But I will tell you guys for free "there is nothing heroic about death". If you have watched someone die, it's painful and inglorious.

Recognizing than someone is stronger than you is not a sign of weakness but strength. The president of Ukraine is being used as a pawn, in a game that is bigger him. He is sacrificing his people for stupid pride. It's a natural the weak, will be a subject to the strong. Talk to Putin, negotiate. mind you that, Russia hasn't even started war, they are more less playing the deplomatic game of threatening you to come for negotiation, if they decide to end Ukraine in 24 hours it will be done.

You can still quote me and talk rubbish, but sentiment don't win wars. I am being practical here. In international politics, once deplomacy fails, people get hurt.

Thank you. I was amazed at how restrained the Russian military has been especially with respect to civilians. A woman was berating them and they didnt kill her. There were few people standing in front of their tanks and Russian military actually swerved rather than mow them down. And just over 200 missiles launched at Ukraine. If Russia were to chose to be brutish. A few fuel air explosives over Kyiv will quickly reset Ukrainian brains as to the might of the Russian military.

It is unfair that Russia invaded Ukraine. Buy if it was Ukraine and another weaker nation, Ukraine will likely do same. Afterall, Aljazeera carried news of Ukrainians robbing nigerians going to the Polish border.

And Zelensky should stop the die like a hero thing. The object of war is not to die for your country. It is to make the othetlr soldier die for his.
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by SenecaTheYonger: 4:25pm On Feb 27, 2022
complexBoss12:
It's a pity that the people of Ukraine will be sacrificed for a new world order. As I said in my previous post few days ago, Putin would rather seen an end to the world than end like Hitler, and just today, he put nuclear weapons on alert over sanctions.

Putin ain't playing by any rules.

Ukrainian President thinks it sounds good to "die a hero" But I will tell you guys for free "there is nothing heroic about death". If you have watched someone die, it's painful and inglorious.

Recognizing than someone is stronger than you is not a sign of weakness but strength. The president of Ukraine is being used as a pawn, in a game that is bigger him. He is sacrificing his people for stupid pride. It's a natural law that the weak, should be subject to the strong. Talk to Putin, negotiate. mind you that, Russia hasn't even started war, they are more less playing the deplomatic game of threatening you to come for negotiation, if they decide to end Ukraine in 24 hours it will be done.

You can still quote me and talk rubbish, but sentiment don't win wars. I am being practical here. In international politics, once deplomacy fails, people get hurt.

Can you blame Ukraine? It is America and it’s people egging him on and skewing the news to his favor.

They say Ukraine killed 4000 Russians but Russia is still a peace while Ukraine is desolate.

A blind man can see that Putin is using restraint in this conflict and not going all out. But the Westerners are hyping the dumb president and it’s making his head swell thinking he has a chance.

Truly a sacrifice
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by mixta140: 4:26pm On Feb 27, 2022
Suspect33:
The end of American dominance is here cool
Either now or sooner .... no champion for ever...
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Minjim: 4:26pm On Feb 27, 2022
Kingpin1000:

.should Russia allow NATO to build a base in Ukraine?

Why can't Russia just join NATO?

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