Ojiofor:


Politics its about interest not emotions and hate.
Let us see what PDP will come up with.

Okay,but the northerners who are famed to be gurus of politics will still not vote an Igbo candidate based on what NK has been saying about the Fulani political elites. Who is this not about emotions ? Believe it or not emotions plays a big role in politics....stop forming sophisticated nwokem.

I think we should pursue Biafra to it's logical conclusion. Period!
My problem with you guys, including this op, is that your understanding of Nigerias politics is warped and stunted! Whatever you have accused Amechi is true. But how do you get out of the conundrum within a Nigeria where the whole state apparatus is assembled to checkmate you!? What are the solutions? They will never support an Igbo candidate! They never done so since 1966! So what gives?

You guys want your one Nigeria, yet you complain. Isn't that annoying!? It makes no sense to insist on Nigeria under these conditions. Buhari will foist Amechi on you all for the same reason Obasanjo foisted Jonathan;Just to spite igbos. They will never allow an igbo man there! It's the plan. They will continue like that for ages while preparing to loot your gas to develop their cities while Aba and Onitsha look like ghost towns. What are you going to do about it!?
For me, it's time to leave. Unless you want to play the role of slaves..

story story...if e reach for this, we are now one, but other things, ikwerre and igbos are different!

Rt Hon Chibuike Ameachi Might Just be the Undisclosed Preferred Candidate of President Buhari

Buhari and The Northern Elements Will Prefer An Ameachi Kind Of Igbo to a Core Igboman.

Igboid:
First of all. It must be stated clearly that as of today, Ikwerre is not officially Igbo.
The Apex Ikwerre socio cultural and Political organization which all Ezes and elites of Ikwerre are members of, the Ogbakor Ikwerre, hold the Opinion that Ikwerre is an independent Ethnic nationality with origin from Bini empire!
Both Amaechi and all so called Igbo claiming Ikwerre people in Ohanaeze Ndiigbo and other Igbo organizations who are deceiving emotionally driven Igbos, are also members of Ogbakor Ikwerre and have their own kings back home as well as their community leaders as bonafide members of Ogbakor Ikwerre whose Igbophobic stand on issues are no secret to other Nigerians.
It must also be well stated that Amaechi has at no time written a public address to Ogbakor Ikwerre condemning their Anti Igbo stance, instead Amaechi sponsored Ogbakor Ikwerre when he was a governor of Rivers State.

Furthermore, Amaechi at different times in history has never missed the opportunity to disclaim being Igbo, cast doubts on Igbo aspirations, or simply address Ndiigbo as "they".

Below was Amaechi stance on his Igbo identity in a public function held in Igboland :
"The highlight of the event, for me, was when Item High Chief, Prof. Joe Irukwu, took the microphone to personally honour and introduce Amaechi when it was his turn to say a few nice words for Arumma. Irukwu described Amaechi correctly as the “high-performing” Governor of Rivers and a “true Igbo son”. But when Amaechi took the mike he “corrected” Irukwu and emphasised: “I am an Ikwerre man!” That really ruffled feathers".

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/07/chibuike-amaechi-ndi-igbo-and-2023/amp/

On Igbo presidency, this is what Amaechi Rotimi had to say.
In an interview with The Sun, Amaechi said that the Igbo have nothing to bring to the negotiating table for 2023 presidency.

“I don’t know what they will do now for voting against the APC,” he said.


“For refusing to support the APC, they cannot come to the table to demand the presidency slot.

“For people like us in the APC, if the Igbo had come and voted Buhari, they would boldly tell Mr President and the National Chairman of the party that presidency should go the Southeast since the South-south; South-west and North-west have produced president. What argument would the Southeast come up with now to convince anybody that they deserve the slot for 2023 president?”

Pay attention to Amaechi deliberate use of "they" to refer to the Igbo.
No one refers to a group they consider themselves part of with "they".
Interesting to also note that Amaechi doesn't believe that Ndiigbo should ask APC for presidential slot, reason being by his twisted logic that SE despite having a state controlled by APC , didn't give majority of the votes to Buhari during the elections.

Igboid:


Even the Igbo VP or president will still be a puppet to the North.
But I would rather have Tinubu as president than have an Ikwerre man as president if I could help it.

What Wike did in Obiigbo is a tip of the iceberg of the amount of toxicity the average Ikwerre man habour for Ndiigbo.

Wike have also declared to run but I know he have his eyes to become VP.But as for Obigbo, I think he used a sledgehammer to kill a fly but he was right in restoring law and order in Obigbo because Obigbo was obvious under attack by hoodlums.

SweetiliciousD:


Obviously, there is a disconnect between your point of view and mine.

I am not Igbo because I say I am one, but my way of life, birth circumstances, language and culture say so irrespective of my personal inclination.

Denounce your heritage all you like, you only fool yourself doing so.

You don't become or cease to become what you naturally are. You can't naturally be a black man and all of a sudden change to be a white man. You don't have that power.

"Even if one fails to acknowledge his age, his age will always acknowledge itself." An Igbo addage says so.

I rest my case.

Life is all about give and take.
In Igbo we say: " Jee kolu akwa gi ebe I wulu aru!

Being Igbo is not just about speaking Igbo Language.
It's about protecting Igbo interests, it's about being proud of being Igbo, about being proud of being in the communion with other Igbo clans.
Looking out for the benefits of each other and forging ahead with one goal.

That's what being Igbo is all about.

Ikwerre is not Igbo.
Ikwerre presence in Igbo gathering is a survival threat to Ndiigbo.
We can't be having an Igbophobic set of people in our organizations, a people whose allegiance lies in Bini and not with us.

It's almost like being a member of a group where members do monthly contributions, only to have a member who would not do monthly contributions, but nevertheless is allowed to benefit from such contributions.

What Ohanaeze Ndiigbo is doing by allowing Ikwerre in that organization is madness and doesn't project Ndiigbo as a people with capacity to think without sentiments.

Antoeni:
Buhari and The Northern Elements Will Prefer An Ameachi Kind Of Igbo to a Core Igboman.

Because they know that Amaechi is not Igbo.
Of course. They will prefer him knowing that he and his people are actually Igbophobic.
Infact this is the whole basis of Ikwerre Igbophobia.
They hope to be Igbophobic enough to have the support of other NIGERIANs, while counting on Igbo emotionally driven Politics to still support them despite their Igbo hating ways, just by wearing Isiagu, speaking denatured Igbo, and saying they are Igbo during elections.

Ohanaeze Ndiigbo and emotionally driven Igbos have allowed Ikwerre to remain in business for too long, this charade has gone on for too long and it's about time all well meaning Igbos demand that Ikwerre be officially excommunicated from Igbo nation.

Omanambala:


Okay,but the northerners who are famed to be gurus of politics will still not vote an Igbo candidate based on what NK has been saying about the Fulani political elites. Who is this not about emotions ? Believe it or not emotions plays a big role in politics....stop forming sophisticated nwokem.

Fulani and the rest of Nigeria will have no choice than to vote for an Igboman when the time comes.
We should be less antogonistic and be more strategic.

boyfrank:


Your assertion is wrong, the UK forced Scotland, Wales and Ireland into the UK by beating them in battle and making them subjects BY FORCE.
PLEASE READ A HISTORY BOOK. the likes of Senator Obi Wali was a founding member of Ohaneze Ndi Igbo so ur assertion that no Ikwerre was in Ohaneze when it was formed is morbidly wrong.

Obi Wali was never in Ohaneze. He couldnt be a minority right activist and at the same time in majority Ohaneze.
Stop the lie

Rugaria:
I think we should pursue Biafra to it's logical conclusion. Period!
My problem with you guys, including this op, is that your understanding of Nigerias politics is warped and stunted! Whatever you have accused Amechi is true. But how do you get out of the conundrum within a Nigeria where the whole state apparatus is assembled to checkmate you!? What are the solutions? They will never support an Igbo candidate! They never done so since 1966! So what gives?

You guys want your one Nigeria, yet you complain. Isn't that annoying!? It makes no sense to insist on Nigeria under these conditions. Buhari will foist Amechi on you all for the same reason Obasanjo foisted Jonathan;Just to spite igbos. They will never allow an igbo man there! It's the plan. They will continue like that for ages while preparing to loot your gas to develop their cities while Aba and Onitsha look like ghost towns. What are you going to do about it!?
For me, it's time to leave. Unless you want to play the role of slaves..

It is well within our means and power to reject Amaechi and Ikwerre People.
Buhari can foist Amaechi as Nigerian president.
But as far as we spell it out that Amaechi and Ikwerre are not Igbos and follow it up with actions by openly denouncing them.
We would have saved ourselves from backlash of whatever wrong Amaechi adminstration will do and would have also ensured that we can continue to legitimately remind Nigerians and the world that there has not been a Nigerian president of Igbo extraction.

And moreover the way I see it.
Amaechi stands Zero chance of emerging president if the PDP field a Northern candidate.

Because Amaechi emergence would anger Tinubu camp who would in anger not work for Amaechi success.
Amaechi will not win SW, and we in SE will not support him too.
In SS, he as an Ikwerre man was pivotal in ousting an Ijaw president, so it will be interesting to see what Ijaws make of his attempt to be president with their support when he joined the North and SW to unseat GEJ in 2015.

MetaPhysical:
Igboid,
Listen to what your Ohanaeze said.

https://www.nairaland.com/7049258/south-east-presidential-aspirants-not-assertive#111406839

Igbo sons are not politically assertive. Your role is to endorse, that's the best you can do. Most times even your political endorsements miss the target.

The great Metaphysical.

Ekabo o. Otojo meta ati abo.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
good argument.

seconded. Let me tag . dude is always promoting Amaechi as an Igbo candidate.

Amaechi is from Ikwere. That he married 4rm Enugwu-ukwu in Anambra is not enough. Stop sharing videos of him speaking Igbo language so as to sway Igbo voters. Ndi-Igbo is a major stakeholder in the Nigerian project.

Peter Obi,
Umahi,
Ngige,
Onu,
Nwajiuba,
OUK &
Rochas are all capable candidates from Ala-Igbo.


Thank you.

Amaechi never for one day deny his Igboness even when he was governor of Rivers, Igwebuike most of you lack it, you don't understand the country you're in, no doubt the great sons of Igboland you listed are credible candidates, I'm a realist those guys can't get APC presidential flag, I have been carefully monitoring Nigeria political situations for years, I can give more than six reasons why North will not hand power over to West, I can give you reasons why they can't hand over power to Southeast, the only region they can confidently handover power is South-South, many Ikwerre never deny their Igboness, Amaechi belong to those group, he also married from Southeast that also bring him closer to his people, forget about sentiments he is the only Igbo large percentage of North trust base on his antecedents of unifying all even when he was governor unlike Wike that's confused, Wike shot himself on the foot, publicly denying his Igboness thinking he was helping his political career, he has realised his mistakes and trying to play smart, but it's late.
Take your time and watch the Ohaneze Secretary who is Ikwerre


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d4VwLVVXpA

Lol see grown men wasting time discussing about Amaechi.

By the way, Igboid made a perfect point. Under no circumstances should someone be allowed to be nominated as an Igbo candidate when they are not from the geopolitical zone of the SE. It is not only an insult but an affront on the dignity of the SE people.

Back to Amaechi, I think there are too much comedian commentators online. They have been parroting Amaechi, Emefiele, Jonathan, and etc lol and you but wonder what is driving their sense.

There is only one person Buhari can use against Asiwaju, and that man is Osinbajo. He is the only one Buhari can nominate that will not cause too much implosion in APC and eventually in the general election.

LegendHero:
Lol see grown men wasting time discussing about Amaechi.

By the way, Igboid made a perfect point. Under no circumstances should someone be allowed to be nominated as an Igbo candidate when they are not from the geopolitical zone of the SE. It is not only an insult but an affront on the dignity of the SE people.

Back to Amaechi, I think there are too much comedian commentators online. They have been parroting Amaechi, Emefiele, Jonathan, and etc lol and you but wonder what is driving their sense.

There is only one person Buhari can use against Asiwaju, and that man is Osinbajo. He is the only one Buhari can nominate that will not cause too much implosion in APC and eventually in the general election.

Correct! If the power that be wants osinbajo, they know he will as well need asiwaju, I'm sure they will involve yoruba leaders and close people to asiwaju to convince him people like baba akande, osoba etc, but for buhari to endorse someone outside the sw it will be very difficult because the party will loose the biggest region with apc support in the South and no reasonable party want to leave certainty for uncertainty by choosing a candidate from ss or se.

MikoB:


Correct! If the power that be wants osinbajo, they know he will as well need asiwaju, I'm sure they will involve yoruba leaders and close people to asiwaju to convince him people like baba akande, osoba etc, but for buhari to endorse someone outside the sw it will be very difficult because the party will loose the biggest region with apc support in the South and no reasonable party want to leave certainty for uncertainty by choosing a candidate from ss or se.

Exactly.

There is one thing about Asiwaju. His stance are not always rigid and he always see the bigger picture if need be.

Let's see how it goes.

Igboid:
Some Igbos opine that maybe supporting Amaechi will bring Ikwerre back to the Igbo fold.
But this is a very flawed perception. One of key reasons Ikwerre rejected Igbo tag post civil war is their conviction that they are better off without the Igbo tag.
In other words, they felt they are stronger in Nigeria when they stand alone. And to some extent, considering how Igbo political fortunes suffered post civil war, their gamble have somewhat paid off.
If we allow one of them become president by cunningly claiming he is one of us when we know he isn't, we would only have strengthened Ikwerre resolve that they are better without us.
I mean why should they become Igbo when they can emotionally manipulate politically blind Igbos into allowing them reap the benefits of being Igbo while still retaining their non Igbo and even Igbophobic stand?
Infact Igbo detractors would happily support Amaechi and Ikwerre people to hijack Igbo presidency because they too know deep inside that Ikwerres are Igbophobic and are by no means Igbo. We would indeed be the real losers in such arrangement and the joke would be on us.
Supporting an Ikwerre president in Amaechi will not bring them closer to the Igbo, it will only feed their vain ego and overbloated sense of importance.
We would have scored own goal when we do so.

Finally, if as an Igbo you find Amaechi a worthy presidential candidate, please do support him by all means, but never do so because you think he and Ikwerre are Igbos, because they are not. Always be clear that Amaechi and Ikwerre are non Igbos, and that Amaechi presidency will be as good as Tinubu, Atiku or GEJ presidency as far as Ndiigbo are concerned. Please do note that there are some proud Igbo groups in SS, but Ikwerre is not one of them. Any Ikwerre person that think otherwise should take his petition to his Eze back home who can then take him to Ogbakor Ikwerre to clear him.
This Ikwerre deception has gone on for too long and must now stop.

Ndeewo nu.

Apt !!

LegendHero:
Lol see grown men wasting time discussing about Amaechi.

By the way, Igboid made a perfect point. Under no circumstances should someone be allowed to be nominated as an Igbo candidate when they are not from the geopolitical zone of the SE. It is not only an insult but an affront on the dignity of the SE people.

Back to Amaechi, I think there are too much comedian commentators online. They have been parroting Amaechi, Emefiele, Jonathan, and etc lol and you but wonder what is driving their sense.

There is only one person Buhari can use against Asiwaju, and that man is Osinbajo. He is the only one Buhari can nominate that will not cause too much implosion in APC and eventually in the general election.

Remember my prediction, it will happen soon, I hope you are getting ready for your new political party

post=111443331:

Remember my prediction, it will happen soon, I hope you are getting ready for your new political party

Lol even you yourself is confused.

Which one is it? Amaechi, Emefiele, or Jonathan?

Ibo people are fighting everybody in nigeria na wa ooo

LegendHero:


Lol even you yourself is confused.

Which one is it? Amaechi, Emefiele, or Jonathan?

I never for one day mention Emefiele or Jonathan

Igboid:


More like Ikwerre is "Agwoid". There is no such thing as Igboid.
You are either Igbo or you are not.
Ikwerre is not Igbo.
Simple.

My dear friend, why are you killing yourself over nothing. Why do you whipe up this sentiments just because you hate the Ikwerres because of their emerging political strength and relevance in the Nigerian state. Why the bitterness over something you should overlook and make your own progress.

It is this same hate and tribalism that has brought your Igbo nation to where it is today. You see every other tribe as inferior except for yours. You claim to know it all and subjugate your host.
You and your people have tried so hard to subjugate this tribe(Ikwerres) but they refused to, they refused to be annexed, is that why you are blowing hot?
He has an identity, he maintained his identity yet you won't let him be.
Like someone said up there, Ikwerres and Igbos have several similarities and traits. They inter marry and exchange culture and traditions, yet these are two distinct tribes.

Drop your bitterness, use these efforts of yours to mobilise your people. Sensitise Igbos politically to know that political power is negotiable and not gotten by threat or force.

Know this and know peace.

Nebuchadnezzarr:
My dear friend, why are you killing yourself over nothing. Why do you whipe up this sentiments just because you hate the Ikwerres because of their emerging political strength and relevance in the Nigerian state. Why the bitterness over something you should overlook and make your own progress.

It is this same hate and tribalism that has brought your Igbo nation to where it is today. You see every other tribe as inferior except for yours. You claim to know it all and subjugate your host.
You and your people have tried so hard to subjugate this tribe(Ikwerres) but they refused to, they refused to be annexed, is that why you are blowing hot?
He has an identity, he maintained his identity yet you won't let him be.
Like someone said up there, Ikwerres and Igbos have several similarities and traits. They inter marry and exchange culture and traditions, yet these are two distinct tribes.

Drop your bitterness, use these efforts of yours to mobilise your people. Sensitise Igbos politically to know that political power is negotiable and not gotten by threat or force.

Know this and know peace.

You are already in pains.
I don't hate or love Ikwerre. I don't see any Igbo man in Ogbakor Ikwerre. It's Ikwerre people who are all over Igbo organizations trying to reap where they didn't sow, an unfortunate situation that many Igbos are now kicking against.

I'm just angry at their blatant impersonation attempts against Ndiigbo.

No one is threatening anyone. We are simply saying that Amaechi and Ikwerre are not Igbo and that under no circumstances should they be mistaken for one.

If you see any hate from the above stand, then the problem is yours and not mine.

And where exactly is Ndiigbo? You are a clown.
Like your group is buying fuel and rising good commodities at different prices from Ndiigbo?
I mean you have more accomplished men and women and better commoners than Ndiigbo?

You really need a mental examination.

chrisxxx:
[s]I am an Ikwerre man. I see an Igbo man as a brother. I see myself closer to an Igbo man than to any other than tribe in Nigeria.
Unfortunately an Igbo man doesn't see me as such. He doesn't see me as a brother but of lower cast. I must drop my identity to be considered worthy if anything. He hates me because I have resolutely taken a stand on my identity. Amaechi is married to an Igbo lady. In that ground he could claim igboness. Although I know as a proud Ikwerre man he is there is no other ground to claim Igbo not even appointing his as the president would cause him do so.[/s]

Says an Afonjaaaa, I'm Ikwerre and I'm Igbo

Igboid:


You are already in pains.
I don't hate or love Ikwerre. I don't see any Igbo man in Ogbakor Ikwerre. It's Ikwerre people who are all over Igbo organizations trying to reap where they didn't sow, an unfortunate situation that many Igbos are now kicking against.

I'm just angry at their blatant impersonation attempts against Ndiigbo.

No one is threatening anyone. We are simply saying that Amaechi and Ikwerre are not Igbo and that under no circumstances should they be mistaken for one.

If you see any hate from the above stand, then the problem is yours and not mine.

And where exactly is Ndiigbo? You are a clown.
Like your group is buying fuel and rising good commodities at different prices from Ndiigbo?
I mean you have more accomplished men and women and better commoners than Ndiigbo?

You really need a mental examination.

Your hate and bitterness will not take you anywhere. Go and educate your people on how to play politics and stop looking for loopholes on why your people can't be president of Nigeria.

It is this same pride and arrogance that made Ojukwu to go to war with the Nigerian state, committing over 3 millions lives to waste. A war you people weren't prepared for. Arrogance.
This same behaviour is now playing out in your region again via Nnamdi Kanu. You people will abuse and insult other tribes and at the same time seek to govern the country.

Leave the Ikwerre people alone and pursue your own destiny.

Igboid:


You are already in pains.
I don't hate or love Ikwerre. I don't see any Igbo man in Ogbakor Ikwerre. It's Ikwerre people who are all over Igbo organizations trying to reap where they didn't sow, an unfortunate situation that many Igbos are now kicking against.

I'm just angry at their blatant impersonation attempts against Ndiigbo.

No one is threatening anyone. We are simply saying that Amaechi and Ikwerre are not Igbo and that under no circumstances should they be mistaken for one.

If you see any hate from the above stand, then the problem is yours and not mine.

And where exactly is Ndiigbo? You are a clown.
Like your group is buying fuel and rising good commodities at different prices from Ndiigbo?
I mean you have more accomplished men and women and better commoners than Ndiigbo?

You really need a mental examination.

The fellow wasted his time to reply to your drivelous indioc.cy. He doesn't know that you are a verified retar.d. tueh!

Rahkman:
Ibo people are fighting everybody in nigeria na wa ooo

Na small thing??...They spend their time on nairaland, Facebook, wikipedia, and everywhere on people who are not even bothered about their existence.

Nebuchadnezzarr:
Your hate and bitterness will not take you anywhere. Go and educate your people on how to play politics and stop looking for loopholes on why your people can't be president of Nigeria.

It is this same pride and arrogance that pressured Ojukwu to go to war with the Nigerian state, committing over 3 millions lives to waste.
This same behaviour is now playing out in your region again via Nnamdi Kanu. You people will abuse and insult other tribes and at the same time seek to govern the country.

Leave the Ikwerre people alone and pursue your own destiny.

You are talking off point.

My stand on Ikwerre has nothing to do with presidency.
I have been on this since 2015. Your hate and senselessness have blinded you.

You are not doing anyone any favor by voting an Igbo or non Igbo president.
Everyone will buy fuel and food prices at the same price and exchange Dollar and pounds at the same price too. Your mumu nah follow come.
If insisting that Ikwerre is not Igbo and that Ohanaeze Ndiigbo must officially make that public means hating Ikwerre, then yes I agree with you, I hate Ikwerre.

Tranquill:

The fellow wasted his time to reply to your drivelous indioc.cy. He doesn't know that you are a verified retar.d. tueh!

Oh.
So you used your alternate account to reply and then come back with your main account to write rubbish.
You are an amateur at this game you know.

I was thinking this thread should make you happy.
I mean I'm finally saying that Ikwerre is not Igbo.
But we know it doesn't make you happy, because Igbos waking up from their emotionally induced slumber and calling you lots out for non Igbos you are will totally mess up with your long con game.
You need emotional Igbos to keep calling you Igbo and admitting your spies into our organizations, to stay in business.

Right?

Ndi nwuru anwu na-aga Ije.

One of these days, those your con men now wearing Isiagu all over the place will be booed if they visit Igboland to come and claim Igbo.

Igboid:


You are talking off point.

My stand on Ikwerre has nothing to do with presidency.
I have been on this since 2015. Your hate and senselessness have blinded you.

You are not doing anyone any favor by voting an Igbo or non Igbo president.
Everyone will buy fuel and food prices at the same price and exchange Dollar and pounds at the same price too. Your mumu nah follow come.
If insisting that Ikwerre is not Igbo and that Ohanaeze Ndiigbo must officially make that public means hating Ikwerre, then yes I agree with you, I hate Ikwerre.

If truly you hate the Ikwerres as you said up there, then how am I talking off point. It is in your DNA to hate what does not belong to your tribe. You gate every other tribe. You despise them but cunningly make them believe you love them just inorder to take what belong to them. Your tribe is cunning and hateful. Wherever he finds himself he would want to dominate. This is the problems he has with the Ikwerre people. They have been battling this subjugation for decades and that was the reason Amaechi made the clarification in Item.
Your god, Nnamdi Kanu didn't just start this hate filled rhetoric, it's part of your tribe. It's in your DNA.
Until Igbos learn how to love other tribes, build bridges and make friends, he will never be president.

Rotimi Amaechi will be president if that is God's will. It is not whether he claim to be Igbo, Ikwerre or Ibibio.

majole:


IKWERRE IS IGBOID AND YOU KNOW IT

Which one be Igboid again. Is Ikwerre Igbo, yes or no?.

You hit the nail bro. Nice thread. The SE should fight for the Presidency and Igbo SS should support them just as Middle-belt Yoruba suppprt SW ambitions.

Again, Ikwerre's are not Igbos neither are the Ikas. Truth be told, Ikwerre's should find their towel where they dried them. If Ndigbo feels the SS brothers should be supported then it should be us from Egbema and Obigbo in Rivers, and the likes of Aniocha/Oshimilli in Delta.