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Emusan:
This watchtower brainwashing effect is so real.

Why calling them Christians and not just your usual Churchgoers?



It's the Bible that says Jesus is God and the Creator
Emusan:


At least my God is 2 or 3 creator of the Universe

Confused Polytheist DECEIVING himself with 3 deities

Emusan:
Can you provide where Trinitarian ever claimed that Jesus is both God and the Father?

@bold you mean Trinitarian also says Jesus is the Father? How long will you people stop lying for your god of men in Brooklyn?


Ignorance won't allow you to learn, if you have different opinion to some doctrines but at least try to understand the point first, that's how an open-minded person does.

Janosky:
Oga, stop DECEIVING yourself.
Isaiah 6:8 , God says your claim is spurious.

Salvation is attained by the believe in Allah alone, worship Him alone as He ought to be worshipped through following the injunctions of the Prophet.

Not all Muslims kill ram. Capable Muslims kill it. And it's not compulsory on those who can't afford it.

The People of Moses were to follow Allah as Moses their Prophet commands them.

Jesus never claim he brought a new covenant anywhere in the Bible.

Jesus said why do you call me good! there is none good except God alone Luke 18:19, Mark 10:18! That means Jesus is not perfect!

You will die one day and your destination is either hell or Paradise!

AntiChristian:
Your religion offers you salvation by virtue of the ritualistic sacrifice your God did killing his son!
Jesus was crucified on the cross while his forerunner was beheaded!

Death doesn't determine anything does it?

cornelboy:
NNTR pls can I ask my questions while waiting for your epistle?

NNTR:
Epistle? Try act your age now please.
Didnt know you required my permission. Go ahead then. Shoot

cornelboy:
Why bring age up here old man?

cornelboy:
You don't even know my age. I might be acting it.

cornelboy:
Just say you don't have my time.

cornelboy:
Should I keep my questions till after your pending post?

Antiislaam:
Yes my religion offers me salvation tru Jesus Christ that died and resurrected as he (Jesus Christ) said in Quran 19:33 that:


And the security/peace (was) on me (on the) day I was born, and (the) day I die, and (the) day I be sent/resurrected/revived alive

Muhammad that was poisoned to death couldn't save you simply because he lived a sinful life while alive, his atrocities was too much

MaxInDHouse:
No honest hearted and sincere individuals gets tired of the TRUTH no matter how bitter it is we love it because everlasting life is tied to it! John 8:32

cornelboy:
Why bring age up here old man?
You don't even know my age. I might be acting it. Just say you don't have my time. Should I keep my questions till after your pending post?

AntiChristian:
What sin did Jesus commit to be crucified?
What sin did John commit to be beheaded?
How is a person's death connected with his sin?

AntiChristian:
The truth?
You're just another weird christian organization advertising itself!

MaxInDHouse:
Funny enough Apostle John carefully chose his words when he said:

And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father. John 1:14

The word who later became God in the midst of people just as Moses also became God in Egypt did not appoint himself rather he was SENT by a greater person! John 3:16

So that Jesus is not our God today but the Son of our God, and that's the way we are to accept him! John 3:17-18

cornelboy:
Lol I no go talk. You be small boy


I have actually seen a lot of Christians from other Christian denominations that don't believe Mary is the mother of God, they don't ascribe divinity to her and worship her statue.
They see it as blasphemy. I even show you one from Naira land.

You need to really take your own advice:



Why didn't you specifically say "Mary is the mother of Jesus or Mary was the mother Jesus, why the play on word?

Where did you see "God the son" in the Bible or which comic book are you reading now?


My thread is centered on why we believe in some Catholic dogmas and see the rest as idolatry, blasphemy or unscriptural.


The Bible doesn't teach that Jesus is "God the son" and the trinity doctrine doesn't conform with the scriptures.



God the Father didn't came in flesh.
Jesus the word came in flesh. His Father sent him.
She did a great job, no one denies that.
She was (not "is" ) the mother of Jesus the Messiah and son of the living God.


Have I ever denied the fact that Jesus came to the world through Mary a virgin then?

God never left heaven o small small na. Na im son come down to earth to fulfill will of the Father.


May you have peace!

Image123:
Lol at "later became God". i guess this is a new update from your sad hall governing bodies . i know you guys used to squirm and blush when stuttering about John 1 but they think this new explanation gives you a breather. Dem try but they never try reach. Repent and embrace the Truth. Jesus the Christ was BEFORE Abraham, not only Moses. Jesus is Eternal and created ALL things including you, go and read John 1 and weep again. He is compared to Moses in the obvious sense that the Old Covenant was delivered by Moses while the New Covenant was delivered by the man Jesus(let me distress you well well ). It is like comparing Jesus to a Lion or God to a Rock/Hill or the Holy Spirit to fire. It does not mean that they are equal or non-living things. Get understanding with all your getting.

AntiChristian:
What sin did Jesus commit to be crucified?

What sin did John commit to be beheaded?

How is a person's death connected with his sin?

NNTR:
Please try refraining from typing puerile remarks. There is a growing disrespect that I find to be somewhat off-putting for my liking

No kidding

As you like it

What part of 'Didnt know you required my permission. Go ahead then. Shoot' dont you please understand?

cornelboy:
Can you show me where the Qur'an explicitly says that?

Are we talking about capability here?

And the Ram is to obey the injunction of the Prophet following the footstep of Abraham. He wanted to sacrifice his son and the sacrifice was replaced with a ram.

Who did Abraham want to sacrifice his son to?
Who did he sacrifice the ram to?
Who told him to do the sacrificing?
Did Allah command you in your Qur'an to do that?

Did any prophet or nation know and worship any God as Allah before Mohammed?
Was Allah the God of Moses?
Is Yahweh not the God of Moses?

Did the Christian God not promise that he will bring a new covenant?
Didn't Jesus talk about his death and how God will save mankind through him?

What did your Koran say about Jesus, should I bring ayahs?

Do you now believe the Bible more than Mohammed's book?

Paradise is not the same as heaven. Paradise is new earth!

God never threatened anyone with fire throughout the Bible. God is love, he wouldn't burn anyone for eternity.

Hell fire is imaginary.

Roman Catholic invented hell fire and your prophet believe the existence of the imaginary hell and put it in your book to scare his followers.

Antiislaam:
He has no sin even your Quran affirmed this, The prophecy must be fulfilled that is why he was crucified and resurrected on the third day..

On the other hand, baby Aishat's husband the paedophile master and womanizer lived a sinful life not worthy of emulating, he was poisoned to death as he couldn't save himself and you his slaves

AntiChristian:
You said Muhammad was poisoned because of his sins! But when it comes to Jesus he was not crucified because of his sins? What about John the Baptist?

AntiChristian:
Seems your parents and the Holy spirit did a whack job training you!
If what you claim is true then Jesus and John the Baptist must have committed worse sins. Tell us their sins to be crucified or beheaded?

Image123:
You no go talk and you went ahead to say all these, are you normal at all or you do not have good grasp of the English language?
i said Mary was/is the mother of Jesus because the two are correct. David was/is the father of Solomon. It depends on your reading and i agree with the two. Like is have clearly said, if you now go FURTHER to worship or pray to, that is where we disagree.

Asking where you see God the Son is as foolish if not more foolish than asking where one sees Bible or pornography in the KJV Bible before you have sense.
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Image123:
Your denomination has now updated and you should also. They now accept that Jesus is God . But shame catch them well, they add a caveat that Jesus is God like Moses. At least update small to that level na, your friend Max has updated.
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Image123:
Jesus the Son of God is God the Son. God came and dwelt among us. The Word WAS God, ALL things were made by Him(including your sorry self). 1 Timothy 3v16. Read it and be free from the yoke of cultism.

Oga, Continue DECEIVING yourself and deny John 3:16 and fight against Jesus true words of John 20:17.

Let me burst your bubble.
Google "1 Timothy 3:16 ,Bill Mounce Greek Interlinear Bible" and come back here to confess your FRAUDULENT claim of 1 Timothy 3:16 .

"Theos" does NOT exist in 1 Timothy 3:16

NNTR:
Exodus 7:1
'Then the LORD said to Moses,
“See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh,
and your brother Aaron will be your prophet.

OR

Then the LORD said to Moses,
“Pay close attention to this. I will make you seem like God to Pharaoh,
and your brother, Aaron, will be your prophet.

OR

So the LORD said to Moses:
“See, I have made you as God to Pharaoh,
and Aaron your brother shall be your prophet.'

Where in Exodus 7:1 did you read of Moses being also called "God". If its not a blind argument, if its not tucking the tail between the legs with whimpering silence signalling submission and fear, then making misleading comment is another thing you are infamously well known for on this forum

Moses was never anywhere in the Bible called God, this is another of your habitual turn into a blind argument false interpretation of the bible text .

The gist of Exodus 7:1, is this, Moses was made to become as if he's God, to Pharaoh, meaning, Moses will confront Pharaoh, to declare God's will, desire, plan and purpose before and to Pharaoh, while his brother Aaron, will be Moses' spokesperson, considering that Moses has a speech impediment and he was trying to weasel his way out away from going with God, under the excuse that he stammers

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Read Al Bayina vs 5.
Read Qur'an 4:59
O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger...

Yes, all worship belongs to Allah. Allah told us to obey the Prophet. So anything the Prophet commands in Islam is from Allah.

Yahweh is represented with Allah in your Arabic Bible. So Allah is the Lord of Adam, Noah, Moses, Abraham, Jesus and Muhammad.

Where did Yahweh call himself the "Christian God" in the bible? Christian God does not exist as Jesus said the Lord our God is one! So why create a "Christian God that doesn't exist here?

Jesus said he will be in the belly of the earth like Jonah was in the belly of the fish. Jonah didn't die before coming out of the fish. Jesus didn't died too.

Qur'an does not talk like Bible. Allah is the one talking in the Qur'an unlike the Bible wherein the person talking is doubtful and definitely not Yahweh in most cases.

Allah said many things about Jesus in the Qur'an. In Qur'an 19:30 Jesus is the servant/Slave of Allah not the son of Allah or angel.

The Bible is written by men from hearsay and mixed with some truths and several falsehood. Why will i believe such book? God claims He does not change. But He later decide to change covenant!

You can believe in your false theories from your JW cult. Why was Sodom destroyed? God is love indeed. Why Was the Pharaoh drowned?

Na love! Why did God send people to be killed in revenge? Na love! Why was Job almost destroyed? Na Love! May that love fall on you!

God has been punishing people with many things of natural disasters out of the control of man. Hell is real.

When was the Roman Catholic Bible compiled? When was the Qur'an compiled?
Come see Jehovah witness telling brazen lies here!

You no go talk and you went ahead to say all these, are you normal at all or you do not have good grasp of the English language?

i said Mary was/is the mother of Jesus because the two are correct. David was/is the father of Solomon. It depends on your reading and i agree with the two. Like is have clearly said, if you now go FURTHER to worship or pray to, that is where we disagree

Image123:
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Asking where you see God the Son is as foolish if not more foolish than asking where one sees Bible or pornography in the KJV Bible before you have sense. Your denomination has now updated and you should also. They now accept that Jesus is God . But shame catch them well, they add a caveat that Jesus is God like Moses. At least update small to that level na, your friend Max has updated.
Jesus the Son of God is God the Son. God came and dwelt among us. The Word WAS God, ALL things were made by Him(including your sorry self). 1 Timothy 3v16. Read it and be free from the yoke of cultism.

AntiChristian:
Read Al Bayina vs 5.
Read Qur'an 4:59
O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger...

Yes, all worship belongs to Allah. Allah told us to obey the Prophet. So anything the Prophet commands in Islam is from Allah.


Yahweh is represented with Allah in your Arabic Bible. So Allah is the Lord of Adam, Noah, Moses, Abraham, Jesus and Muhammad.

AntiChristian:
Qur'an does not talk like Bible. Allah is the one talking in the Qur'an unlike the Bible wherein the person talking is doubtful and definitely not Yahweh in most cases.

Antiislaam:
"Muhammad that was poisoned to death couldn't save you simply because he lived a sinful life while alive, his atrocities was too much"

You must go back to school, you need a western school asap and not almajiri school or ile-kewu

Jesus Christ saves! He died and resurrected as read from Quran and Bible resp. Muhammad that was given poisonous meal that sent him to his grave can't save you including his god allah he inherited from his father, Abd allāh

Seems your parents and the idol muhammad inherited from his father called allah did a whack job in your life.
Jesus Christ died and resurrected as read from the book you love most, Quran.. Jesus Christ lived a sinless life which you knw very well while Baby Aishat's husband lived a sinful life, he killed for his god, allah and many atrocities

Since you believe in the above then Jesus was part of the sons of God that came to sleep with ladies in Genesis 6:1-4. That was why his father had to punish him by hanging to death. That sin was too much!

If Christ can save he would have saved himself from death despite the many miracles. He can't even save you guys from telling lies here. He can't prevent you from abuse and falsehood peddling

The Biblical Jesus was sinful as he did call a woman and her tribe dogs! He once saw a fig tree without fruit and he cursed it to death! This is a negative miracle that caused the death of a creation! (deforestation).

AntiChristian:
May what befell you guys not befall us!

Emusan:
They will agree there's nothing difficult for God to do but in other word it's too difficult for their God to come down to earth and still remains in heaven.

Emusan:
When even both heavens and earth can't contain the same God.

I once asked one JWs that is it possible for God to appear in all 36 states of Nigeria at the same time?

He couldn't answer.

Firstly, Emusan is a LYING genius.
Emusan go fit give Satan tutorial. .

Secondly, Moses, Jesus Christ and John proven that Emusan is fond of LYING.
God can not appear to men.
Exodus 33:20, John 6:46 & 1 John 4:12 confirmed that.

Rather, God sends Messengers entertained by men,Hebrews 13:2 & Genesis 18:1-5.

AntiChristian:
Since you believe in the above then Jesus was part of the sons of God that came to sleep with ladies in Genesis 6:1-4. That was why his father had to punish him by hanging to death. That sin was too much!

AntiChristian:
If Christ can save he would have saved himself from death despite the many miracles. He can't even save you guys from telling lies here. He can't prevent you from abuse and falsehood peddling!

AntiChristian:
The Biblical Jesus was sinful as he did call a woman and her tribe dogs! He once saw a fig tree without fruit and he cursed it to death! This is a negative miracle that caused the death of a creation! (deforestation).
May what befell you guys not befall us!

Antiislaam:
The same son of God, Jesus Christ according to the book you believe in affirmed that he resurrected.

Quran 19:33

Muhammad Ahmed & Samira

And the security/peace (was) on me (on the) day I was born, and (the) day I die, and (the) day I be sent/resurrected/revived alive

Luke 24:6-7

6. He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee,

7. Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.






Jesus Christ saved himself as he resurrected on the third day


Luke 24:6-7

6. He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee,

7. Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again..

Meanwhile, Quran tesifies to his death and resurrection

Quran 19:33

Muhammad Ahmed & Samira

And the security/peace (was) on me (on the) day I was born, and (the) day I die, and (the) day I be sent/resurrected/revived alive


We Christians here are only telling you the truth in which at the end, you always abuse us for telling you the truth. Your allah was the taqqiya master, you knw this very well





Don't let the league of alfas and imams brainwashed you next time that Jesus Christ is a sinner, always show them these Bible chapters and Verses should incase if such taqqiya comes up next time


1 Peter 2:22

He committed no sin, neither was deceit found in his mouth.


Hebrews 4:15

For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin.


Even the author of Quran said Mohammed was a sinner and that Jesus son of Mary was sinless.

Quran 47:19

So know, [O Muhammad], that there is no deity except Allah and ask forgiveness for your sin and for the believing men and believing women. And Allah knows of your movement and your resting place.