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Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by Nobody: 4:08pm On Apr 17, 2022
dboY1123:
I have been on/off from my work(shop) for 2weeks now, I have this new worker who is a Muslim and I am a Christian, of course, I am not against her religion or anything, I still grant her the permission to attend mosque every Friday afternoon and I always try to be at shop by 2pm, or get someone to replace her..

Today I came to shop and the first thing I noticed was that she allowed one Alfa that I know very well, into the shop(she knows it is not allowed), my mind told me they were both reciting the Quran before I came in.

Secondly, she told me that she needs to pray (in the shop) that I should excuse her while I had to leave there and go outside..This has never been happening for 3 months she's been here..

Even myself being a Christian, I pray before coming to shop/work.

I wanted to tell her to stop praying in the shop because it is not a praying ground or mosque, should I go ahead?

I am not against her religion whatsoever, even she reads the Quran quietly in the shop and there's no issue about that.
Sack her.

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Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by DeepSight(m): 4:10pm On Apr 17, 2022
GloriousGbola:


yes. but none of the others you mentioned are mandated to pray 5 times a day

Bruv, it depends on the denominations oh. Many denominations of many religions mandate all sorts of mandatables and unmandatables!

would you also say sikhs should not be allowed to wear their turbans? has sikhs wearing their turbans led to a complete and utter breakdown of the dress code?

has making easter a bank holiday in the uk led to agitation of every other religious adherent to have a holiday for their own religion? has it led to a breakdown of the system?

are other religions in the uk also demanding that teh weekend be rejigged around their own religions' weekends?

These examples are not on all fours with the situation I am describing which is disruptive to operations of an office.
I would not oppose a turban because it disrupts nothing. But I would oppose a veil for example in jobs where face to face communication with either customers or colleagues is key.
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by johnson8213: 4:13pm On Apr 17, 2022
dboY1123:
I have been on/off from my work(shop) for 2weeks now, I have this new worker who is a Muslim and I am a Christian, of course, I am not against her religion or anything, I still grant her the permission to attend mosque every Friday afternoon and I always try to be at shop by 2pm, or get someone to replace her..

Today I came to shop and the first thing I noticed was that she allowed one Alfa that I know very well, into the shop(she knows it is not allowed), my mind told me they were both reciting the Quran before I came in.

Secondly, she told me that she needs to pray (in the shop) that I should excuse her while I had to leave there and go outside..This has never been happening for 3 months she's been here..

Even myself being a Christian, I pray before coming to shop/work.

I wanted to tell her to stop praying in the shop because it is not a praying ground or mosque, should I go ahead?

I am not against her religion whatsoever, even she reads the Quran quietly in the shop and there's no issue about that.

Sack her. She already going beyond her limit

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Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by Brownshoe: 4:35pm On Apr 17, 2022
Your employee is a soko loan.
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by oyithemilkman: 4:44pm On Apr 17, 2022
If the positions were reversed,do you think they will allow you sing praise and worship and observe prayers intheir shop?there is already a grand design to either take over your shop or do you strong thing spiritually.Bible says we should be wise.tell her a shop is not a prayer ground and if she can't take it,let her go simple.
db oY1123:
I have been on/off from my work(shop) for 2weeks now, I have this new worker who is a Muslim and I am a Christian, of course, I am not against her religion or anything, I still grant her the permission to attend mosque every Friday afternoon and I always try to be at shop by 2pm, or get someone to replace her..

Today I came to shop and the first thing I noticed was that she allowed one Alfa that I know very well, into the shop(she knows it is not allowed), my mind told me they were both reciting the Quran before I came in.

Secondly, she told me that she needs to pray (in the shop) that I should excuse her while I had to leave there and go outside..This has never been happening for 3 months she's been here..

Even myself being a Christian, I pray before coming to shop/work.

I wanted to tell her to stop praying in the shop because it is not a praying ground or mosque, should I go ahead?

I am not against her religion whatsoever, even she reads the Quran quietly in the shop and there's no issue about that.

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Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by ayabdullateef20: 4:47pm On Apr 17, 2022
You actually know she is a Muslim before employing her and her activities as a Muslim depends on he devotion to her religion, a devoted Muslim would pray by 2pm and 4pm, sometimes combine the two by 4pm. I once interviewed an employee who told me he is in the church choir and would close early on some certain days. If I was not comfortable with that, I should not hire him. You live in Nigeria, so don't act like you don't know this. Even those who work in banks take excuse to go an pray. If you are not comfortable with a Muslim working for you then should let her go.
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by ayabdullateef20: 4:49pm On Apr 17, 2022
If the positions were reversed,do you think they will allow you sing praise and worship and observe prayers intheir shop?there is already a grand design to either take over your shop or do you strong thing spiritually.Bible says we should be wise.tell her a shop is not a prayer ground and if she can't take it,let her go simple.[/quote]
This is laughable
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by Father4all: 4:49pm On Apr 17, 2022
membranus:


Muslims in the bank where I worked did not pray 5 times a day. At least not in the banking hall when attending to impatient customers.
so, that means other devoted ones won't pray abi?
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by Akhee: 4:53pm On Apr 17, 2022
VEXT:

My bokoharam frd from minna
Hahaha, how you dey na
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by bluefilm: 4:54pm On Apr 17, 2022
DispatcherLagos:
Hmmmmmmm.
Your employee asked you to leave your shop for her so that she can pray?

What are you not telling us exactly?

Don't mind him

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Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by membranus: 5:00pm On Apr 17, 2022
Father4all:
so, that means other devoted ones won't pray abi?

When they leave their desks and exit the office, or on lunch break, they can pray all the prayers they need to pray. But not inside the office.

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Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by lonelydora: 5:00pm On Apr 17, 2022
dboY1123:
I have been on/off from my work(shop) for 2weeks now, I have this new worker who is a Muslim and I am a Christian, of course, I am not against her religion or anything, I still grant her the permission to attend mosque every Friday afternoon and I always try to be at shop by 2pm, or get someone to replace her..

Today I came to shop and the first thing I noticed was that she allowed one Alfa that I know very well, into the shop(she knows it is not allowed), my mind told me they were both reciting the Quran before I came in.

Secondly, she told me that she needs to pray (in the shop) that I should excuse her while I had to leave there and go outside..This has never been happening for 3 months she's been here..

Even myself being a Christian, I pray before coming to shop/work.

I wanted to tell her to stop praying in the shop because it is not a praying ground or mosque, should I go ahead?

I am not against her religion whatsoever, even she reads the Quran quietly in the shop and there's no issue about that.

The earlier you separate business with religion, the better for you.

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Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by Bbbw: 5:10pm On Apr 17, 2022
Hmmm
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by frozen70(f): 5:10pm On Apr 17, 2022
dboY1123:
I have been on/off from my work(shop) for 2weeks now, I have this new worker who is a Muslim and I am a Christian, of course, I am not against her religion or anything, I still grant her the permission to attend mosque every Friday afternoon and I always try to be at shop by 2pm, or get someone to replace her..

Today I came to shop and the first thing I noticed was that she allowed one Alfa that I know very well, into the shop(she knows it is not allowed), my mind told me they were both reciting the Quran before I came in.

Secondly, she told me that she needs to pray (in the shop) that I should excuse her while I had to leave there and go outside..This has never been happening for 3 months she's been here..

Even myself being a Christian, I pray before coming to shop/work.

I wanted to tell her to stop praying in the shop because it is not a praying ground or mosque, should I go ahead?

I am not against her religion whatsoever, even she reads the Quran quietly in the shop and there's no issue about that.

She should have limits her religion practice in the mosque or her parents home

Noth if you are of different religion so you will suspect anything religious in the shop, for the fact that they speak in Arabic, it makes it unclear

Meanwhile shop for a replacement while she still stays there and free her once you get another to replace her
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by simpleseyi: 5:25pm On Apr 17, 2022
I am a Muslim, any employee that wants to turn my workplace to a mosque will be kicked out. For your information, if you are in a section or department where you have to be at our desk 24/7, then i cannot give you time to go to mosque. Religion is personal, your relationship with your God is your business, do not bring it to my workplace.

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Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by simpleseyi: 5:30pm On Apr 17, 2022
Father4all:
so, that means other devoted ones won't pray abi?

And who told you the ones in the bank are not devoted.
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by DonroxyII: 5:40pm On Apr 17, 2022
DeepSight:


Freedom of religion on the job right? Freedom to pursue your religion even if it clashes with your employer's requirements for the job right? Next thing you will be saying any employer who doesnt create breaks to fit with the five prayer times is breaching your right to your religion right?
Your wahala is too much and stop giving yourself problems:

The employer(Op) Stated He doesn't have problem with her religion nor practicing her religion.

He has problem with conducting her religion duties inside the Shop grin

This is a Peculiar issue and not a Corporate Governance Matter tongue
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by MARS1(m): 5:42pm On Apr 17, 2022
DispatcherLagos:

It's like your shop is gradually looking like moshalishi to her?
Let's assume she works in some multinational companies, will she have the temerity to "pray" let alone telling her boss to excuse her to pray?
Oga..... better man up and set the standard you want for your business.

I work in a big brand and a multinational, Muslims are not stopped from praying, once it's their praying time, they converge somewhere within the premises and offer their prayers to their God.

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Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by DonroxyII: 5:46pm On Apr 17, 2022
Haryoife:


You made a meaningful point here brother man
But I’ll ask you will you allow me to come with my later to your place of work saying we have a special prayer to make while you excuse us
Don't stress me please
That's the Question the Op asked and I posted my Opinion.

Allow you to Pray in my place of work. Are we working together If yes, Why not cheesy

The reason there are problems in the entire Strata of the globe is because of the Absence of God in our endeavors.

Bring in as much God as Possible but Decorum please. Any fanatism, Obsessions or HyperGod, I'm gonna send you away sad undecided
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by prophetfire: 5:51pm On Apr 17, 2022
dboY1123:


Nothing.. She said I want to pray, meaning please excuse me.
. E be like say na sawdust dey your head. Your employee or your girlfriend?
You are asking us if you should have order in your workplace? You aren't a serious human being.

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Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by DispatcherLagos: 6:00pm On Apr 17, 2022
MARS1:


I work in a big brand and a multinational, Muslims are not stopped from praying, once it's their praying time, they converge somewhere within the premises and offer their prayers to their God.

Oga which multinational company do you work with to start with?
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by thatigboman1: 6:06pm On Apr 17, 2022
dboY1123:


Nothing.. She said I want to pray, meaning please excuse me.
Sir, put a fullstop to it now, else your shop will turn to a full-blown mosque before your very own eyes and then it will be too late. U dare complain and they declare fatwa on you.

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Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by olamoses75(m): 6:14pm On Apr 17, 2022
dboY1123:
I have been on/off from my work(shop) for 2weeks now, I have this new worker who is a Muslim and I am a Christian, of course, I am not against her religion or anything, I still grant her the permission to attend mosque every Friday afternoon and I always try to be at shop by 2pm, or get someone to replace her..

Today I came to shop and the first thing I noticed was that she allowed one Alfa that I know very well, into the shop(she knows it is not allowed), my mind told me they were both reciting the Quran before I came in.

Secondly, she told me that she needs to pray (in the shop) that I should excuse her while I had to leave there and go outside..This has never been happening for 3 months she's been here..

Even myself being a Christian, I pray before coming to shop/work.

I wanted to tell her to stop praying in the shop because it is not a praying ground or mosque, should I go ahead?

I am not against her religion whatsoever, even she reads the Quran quietly in the shop and there's no issue about that.
Are you sure you are not lashing that lady? Don't mind me being oversensitive. It's the audacity for me grin

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Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by Gidagreen(m): 6:29pm On Apr 17, 2022
I am a Muslim, there should be a limit to what an employer allow from an employee to do in their place of work, you should not allow much to the detriment of your business.

Some people tends to play the extremist game just to demonstrate their overzealousness and uncultured attitude. They always want to show they are the most religious and others are hated by God. This occurs in both religion.

God Almighty is not that wicked to allow us disturb our neighbors when practicing our religion.

Let her know what you want in your place of work. You are the boss. Leave religion out it. Speak straight up what you want.
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by Sermwell(m): 6:38pm On Apr 17, 2022
GloriousGbola:


The best you can do - set aside a corner in the workshop where she can pray. If she has one hour of free time add 20 minutes and tell her her prayer time is included in the free time. Ie she will split her free time accordingly. That means zuhr 2pm and asri (4pm)

Alternatively, within that broken down break, she can pray in a nearby mosque.

That is the enlightened, tolerant and practical thing to do.

Finally no religious figures allowed for any reason. Otherwise the alfa can get her a job.
I don't know of you're a Christain or Muslim but I think I like this your idea! I'm a christain though!
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by Slynation(m): 6:44pm On Apr 17, 2022
dboY1123:
I have been on/off from my work(shop) for 2weeks now, I have this new worker who is a Muslim and I am a Christian, of course, I am not against her religion or anything, I still grant her the permission to attend mosque every Friday afternoon and I always try to be at shop by 2pm, or get someone to replace her..

Today I came to shop and the first thing I noticed was that she allowed one Alfa that I know very well, into the shop(she knows it is not allowed), my mind told me they were both reciting the Quran before I came in.

Secondly, she told me that she needs to pray (in the shop) that I should excuse her while I had to leave there and go outside..This has never been happening for 3 months she's been here..

Even myself being a Christian, I pray before coming to shop/work.

I wanted to tell her to stop praying in the shop because it is not a praying ground or mosque, should I go ahead?

I am not against her religion whatsoever, even she reads the Quran quietly in the shop and there's no issue about that.
This can only happen when a boss shine teeth too much with employees...The beginning always justifies the end

Normalize to always kwechiri...!!
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by deltateam: 6:52pm On Apr 17, 2022
sageer1706:
Bro the thing is muslims pray 5daily prayers everyday (5:30am, 1:00pm, 4pm, 6:30pm and 8pm) so telling her not to pray is like telling her to stop working for u


You will be lying to say they observe all of them. I have Muslim friends. They weren't praying during class hours. They mostly observed the evening time and maybe early morning.

Others? Oyo.
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by DeepSight(m): 6:54pm On Apr 17, 2022
DonroxyII:
Your wahala is too much

grin
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by SaturnNick(m): 6:57pm On Apr 17, 2022
grin grin grin E be like say this comrade don cut her kpekus ooo. See audacity

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Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by chrome001: 7:12pm On Apr 17, 2022
HeavenVGate:

If her actions is affecting your business, sack her. I sacked two of my workers last week. Reason was.. they were Muslims and they were always leave shop to go pray in a mosque that was little bit far from shop so customers always wait till they comes back, some left angrily. When that was affecting my business, I sacked them. I'm a Muslim myself and I will never close shop to go pray. I do all my prayer when I return home at night. So I employed Christians to replaced them. One thing we need get straight here, what puts food in your table first before any religion, not other way round. If you know you don't wanna miss your salat, why don't you stay home all day so that you don't miss any of your salat. Religion is affecting most people in this part of the world.

I am just forced to comment on this. Are you really sure you're a Muslim?

If yes, why are you even one. Because this your comment is just killing me.

So you sacked 2 Muslims because of solah especially in the holy month of Ramadan?? Is there no better way to handle this? And you're here justifying your action by saying you combine your prayers. Have you read of the punishment for the person who combines solah? Please go research.
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by simpleseyi: 7:19pm On Apr 17, 2022
chrome001:


I am just forced to comment on this. Are you really sure you're a Muslim?

If yes, why are you even one. Because this your comment is just killing me.

So you sacked 2 Muslims because of solah especially in the holy month of Ramadan?? Is there no better way to handle this? And you're here justifying your action by saying you combine your prayers. Have you read of the punishment for the person who combines solah? Please go research.


My brother you are yalking nonsense. I was one of the Customers Service Officers in a bank some years back. Are you saying I should leave customers on queue and go to the mosque at 2PM, then at 4PM, I will leave customers on the queue and run to the mosque again?

I even trust the mad customers at my brach then, they won't even allow you step out. It is inside the bank that they will beat you mercilessly. Before Police comes, they are gone.

Let's get some things right. When the Prophet (SAW) brought past religions together and completes them to make Islam, the people then were Farmers, Traders and Animal Herders, so it was easy to pray even 20 times in a day. That is not possible today where we have Pilots, Surgeons, Bankers, Lecturers, e.t.c. So this your so called punishment for combining Solat has been over written by events.
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by Topshow2010(m): 7:21pm On Apr 17, 2022
Naturalobserver:
Christian or Muslim...You don't bring that stuff into business.
I think there is a problem when your employee excuses you from your own shop.
Check yourself OP

If the write up is true ,it seems there is something btw both of them rather than employer and employee relatnsp.Its not just normal for an employee to excused d owner for prayer just like dt.

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