princeeze1:

Wrong, your assertion applies to a case of divorce or separation. Once a spouse is deceased intestate, his/her properties pre owned or not follows a particular order in inheritance; surviving spouse, children, parents, siblings down and so on. This succession act superceeds customary traditions. As for the Op, he will live to regret the day he went and drag back his maternal family into the circus.

We are talking A, you wrote down B

You just copy and paste from the internet without understanding

The law is simple, any property a woman own before marriage, the husband does not own it

Slynation:
you are talking Rubbish with confidence, When you marry a woman, she leaves her home and everything behind and go lives with her husband, In this case, seems like he came and lived with the woman after marriage, he has no right to go and claim lands or properties in his wife village or anywhere she inherited properties from her family side, only a direct and legitimate offsprings has the right because according to custom and tradition, he's a son of the soil...!!

So get your fact right, Two becomes one doesn't apply in this scenario...!!

According to your submission, please who then owns the legitimate offspring of the wife?
Well except that child was adopted, the father is still alive and still owns his son and whatever inheritance from his mother

[quote author=immortalcrown post=112055409]I have been vindicated once again. The kindred only cautioned your father not to sell the property because the kindred's tradition does not permit the selling of such property. But the kindred did not say you have more right than your father over the property.

Your argument was the property is your right. I told you your father owns the property. I said he owns the property despite the fact that his attempt to sell the property is bad. Fools disagreed with me.

Our major argument was about who between you and your father has more right over the property. You claimed you have more rights over the property. Now, your kindred does not support that claim of yours. Your kindred only condemned the idea of selling the property. And I myself also condemned the idea of selling the property.[/qu
ote]
What else do want the kindred to say ,the father had no right to sell the property even she is his wife no matter thow much or the way he pay for dowry it did not confer any status on him to inherit his wife property from her parents inheritance ,but it is vice versa for women. She can inherit her husband property.

Mariangeles:
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Mark these words; that thing that you have been desperately looking for, YOU WILL GET IT IN ABUNDANCE!

And you wonder why you're never joyful!

This girl, what you're looking for here you can't get it, no amount of validation here will make your reality any better, this is just a place to get knowledge and information where necessary, not approval from monikers just for attention

Lastly whatever is holding you backward in your thinking, go and research for further learning cos you are not bright, at all, you've showed it countless times

My last response to you.

litigator:
The properties are his birth right. The husband can never inherit those properties under native law and customs. Even English laws recognizes this material fact and there are several case law supporting this position.

What will the law say if the mother is the one dragging what his father left in this scenario?

In my place if a woman owns a property and does, the property goes to her last son.

Slynation:
Immortalcrown needs to see this...

You need to tell me if Nigeria does everything the colonizer does.

IS HE REALLY YOUR DAD?
I MEAN, NO LOVE OR BOND BETWEEN BOTH OF YOU.

Slynation:
you are talking Rubbish with confidence, When you marry a woman, she leaves her home and everything behind and go lives with her husband, In this case, seems like he came and lived with the woman after marriage, he has no right to go and claim lands or properties in his wife village or anywhere she inherited properties from her family side, only a direct and legitimate offsprings has the right because according to custom and tradition, he's a son of the soil...!! So get your fact right, Two becomes one doesn't apply in this scenario...!!

So the wealth a man acquires before his marriage should not go to his wife when he dies?

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Biglittlelois:



This girl, what you're looking for here you can't get it, no amount of validation here will make your reality any better, this is just a place to get knowledge and information where necessary, not approval from monikers just for attention

Lastly whatever is holding you backward in your thinking, go and research for further learning cos you are not bright, at all, you've showed it countless times

My last response to you.

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Validations!? Stop projecting yourself/thoughts on me.
I no send anybody mama for here!

That hate and bitterness within you? They will continue to eat you up from within!
The rotten bad energy that oozes out from you will continue to multiply and return back to you!

All these has been explained in Islam even before your great great grandfather was birthed.

That's if you are a Muslim.

Your mum inheritance is her properties {personal property}, your Dad has some portion accrue to him and you as son has more than him with your siblings.

Mariangeles:
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God forbid that I do this with a characterless element like you!

Now flee from me! Flee!!!

I thought it should be before Easter. 40 days and 40 nights that the Lord asked devil to flee

Flee from me! after Easter done pass on the way to Galilee.

Iya rere
How are you doing Iya mi.

wirinet:


This is what the Nigerian law on inheritance states - https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.icnl.org/resources/research/ijnl/discriminatory-property-inheritance-under-customary-law-in-nigeria-ngos-to-the-rescue%3famp

What you quoted is not the Nigerian law, What you pasted is inheritance under customary law which varies from locality to locality. In such cases their marriage was contracted only under the native law and customs. Where the marriage is under the act ( white wedding or registry marriage), succession is first spousal, male or female and it is not subject to any customary laws, as the customary laws will take a back seat. Read carefully;



https://www.mondaq.com/nigeria/wills-intestacy-estate-planning/664402/how-to-take-over-the-property-of-someone-who-has-died

Most people dont understand, family trust and most african way of system disadvantaged women, made men steal from (what is left by his brother)

In this case the son is very right as per (western world) in protecting that was created by his grand father (mum's father) then passed on
to his mother ( this father has no right) becoz he has no direct blood link ( his father is just a son -law period)

This applies to women too (under the same rule) eg this guy's father was handed property by his father aka grand pa ( his mother can
not claim that property ( she has no direct blood link she is just a daughter-in-law)

we go further if the father passes that property to the current guy (his wife can inherit that property becoz she has no direct bloodink but there kids can

the idea here is to protect properties/wealth etc that has been created by a family NOT to be absorbed/ stolen by the daughter or son in law

a good example is Charles and Camila, if Charles dies while he is a king it doesnt mean Camila will inherit all the Windor family worth, she is limited becoz some of the wealth are for those with direct blood link only not by virtue of marriage aka being a son/daughter in law

immortalcrown:
You are the one who did not read at all. Your argument in your first post is the property belongs to you and not to your father. I said here that the kindred did not say the property belongs to you.

Our major argument was about who between you and your father has more right over the property. You claimed you have more rights over the property. Now, your kindred does not support that claim of yours. Your kindred only condemned the idea of selling the property. And I myself also condemned the idea of selling the property.

Prove your statement with Nigeria law quoted

GraciousGod190:
https://www.nairaland.com/7080619/father-dragging-moms-property-me


Reading all the abuses I got from nairaland, from fellow nairalanders calling me a bastard, ungrateful son all because I was fighting for what was right and not material things.

My mom before she left us, the properties were passed down to her from her parents,(which some they inherited from their Grandparents) she didn't really have to do nothing a full time house wife.. because only the house rents alone she receives from tenants a year from different buildings kept her okay.... some were used for my education, I was made to understand here on nairaland that those properties belong more to my dad, so he can sell it out any way he deem fit... since he married her,. Even though they are ancestral properties.


But, I still don't agree....


So I reported my father to the most senior man in my mother's kindreds, from her father side. I went there on Saturday evening and narrated everything to him...the first thing he said was


YOUR FATHER NOR FIT (in our native language)

He was so angry that he had to call another man and told him everything on the phone, I went back to my house..... and got a call Sunday afternoon to come back around, to my surprise I saw my father there with lots of extended family members and they gave him a stern warning not to try anything funny with those lands.

That our trybe don't sell family lands, house.. inherited property.. that what even gave him the right to think about doing something like that in law for that matter... while my mom has a son...they even said I as the son can't even sell those lands talkless my father.

They ask him, if it was financial issue that gave him that thinking, at first he wanted to deny about selling before he admitted it...my father is not poor, a retired nnpc staff receiving his pension steadily.....he just likes having a lot of money to spend anyhow.... and seeing those lands available he thought he could sell them... but the family proved him wrong and there's nothing he can do about it.

I haven't called my mother kindreds from my my mother side, still observing.. while we Left the meeting, my dad was cold all through..I know he must have narrated to some of his educated friends..let's see if he will take this to court.

This doesn't have nothing to do with me again, but with my mothers kindreds.

Bros, i read your first post and i saw how people on this forum were abusing you for "dragging" your mom inheritance with your father. You should have known that most people on NL are underaged, home-training lacking, undisciplined and bereft of sense of good judgment and morality. Morally speaking, your father that should also be planning to leave good heritage for you should be embarrassed to drag your mom's property with you.
Thank God a bold step has been taken and your dad has been cautioned. I will not talk much, in all I wish you well.

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tctrills:

Property is not more important than family. No matter what happens don't lose your father to properties.

True - but the way some people behave over property is mind boggling. Your wife has children for you, then keep the property for you all to enjoy.

As I said before, if your mom inherited the property from her family, your Dad is not entitled to it under customary law. It would be different if your mom acquired the property herself

immortalcrown:
So the wealth a man acquires before his marriage should not go to his wife when he dies?

Observe carefully, The woman will only be fighting for the inheritance of their son if he's a minor and not for herself...!!

MissionaryArchi:

According to your submission, please who then owns the legitimate offspring of the wife?
Well except that child was adopted, the father is still alive and still owns his son and whatever inheritance from his mother

Lol...Only applicable to your tradition The son in question is already a grown up living in his own house built with his own money, just get the fact straight that a man can't claim inheritance from his wife family by marriage unless it was all willed to his name...QED

Slynation:
Lol...Only applicable to your tradition The son in question is already a grown up living in his own house built with his own money, just get the fact straight that a man can't claim inheritance from his wife family by marriage unless it was all willed to his name...QED

Most people who are driven by culture and tradition customs dont even think that way or see it that way

what fail to see is that wealth or property can taken over by another family by virtue of marriage which very very wrong, hence as most africans they had a system to prevent such which a bit hash to women eg if hubby is rich, if he dies the women cant walk away with the wealth they aquired for the wife to enjoy the wealth she had to either marry one of the brothers to stay with with not seeing one while the kids grow to inherit what was left by their father

She could go away with the wealth it would be lost to either to the knew men or the woman's family

Aonkuuse:
Well that is good, in our family too, we don't sell inherited properties, if you try it, you will go 6ft down.

Prepare for a serious underground battle from your father, especially anything you want that needs his attention but it all for the best.

He will simply tell him to go and meet his mother's kindred

Slynation:
Observe carefully, The woman will only be fighting for the inheritance of their son if he's a minor and not for herself...!!

Some women sell the property.

tollyboy5:
Prove your statement with Nigeria law quoted

Prove the poster's claim right first.

GraciousGod190:
https://www.nairaland.com/7080619/father-dragging-moms-property-me


Reading all the abuses I got from nairaland, from fellow nairalanders calling me a bastard, ungrateful son all because I was fighting for what was right and not material things.

My mom before she left us, the properties were passed down to her from her parents,(which some they inherited from their Grandparents) she didn't really have to do nothing a full time house wife.. because only the house rents alone she receives from tenants a year from different buildings kept her okay.... some were used for my education, I was made to understand here on nairaland that those properties belong more to my dad, so he can sell it out any way he deem fit... since he married her,. Even though they are ancestral properties.


But, I still don't agree....


So I reported my father to the most senior man in my mother's kindreds, from her father side. I went there on Saturday evening and narrated everything to him...the first thing he said was


YOUR FATHER NOR FIT (in our native language)

He was so angry that he had to call another man and told him everything on the phone, I went back to my house..... and got a call Sunday afternoon to come back around, to my surprise I saw my father there with lots of extended family members and they gave him a stern warning not to try anything funny with those lands.

That our trybe don't sell family lands, house.. inherited property.. that what even gave him the right to think about doing something like that in law for that matter... while my mom has a son...they even said I as the son can't even sell those lands talkless my father.

They ask him, if it was financial issue that gave him that thinking, at first he wanted to deny about selling before he admitted it...my father is not poor, a retired nnpc staff receiving his pension steadily.....he just likes having a lot of money to spend anyhow.... and seeing those lands available he thought he could sell them... but the family proved him wrong and there's nothing he can do about it.

I haven't called my mother kindreds from my my mother side, still observing.. while we Left the meeting, my dad was cold all through..I know he must have narrated to some of his educated friends..let's see if he will take this to court.

This doesn't have nothing to do with me again, but with my mothers kindreds.

This is a sequel to your first thread..

I only wonder what good it did bringing that matter here when you could have done better tabling it before elders in your family..

Finding answers on here is like looking for a needle in a haystack..

Amidst varing opinions, here is a good place to test the quality and degree of attention and intelligence behind all these monikers.

All the same, I Wish you all the best.

Biglittlelois:



This girl, what you're looking for here you can't get it, no amount of validation here will make your reality any better, this is just a place to get knowledge and information where necessary, not approval from monikers just for attention

Lastly whatever is holding you backward in your thinking, go and research for further learning cos you are not bright, at all, you've showed it countless times

My last response to you.

You have this notoriety for being mean and ruthless in several of your comments i have come across the few times i come around here...

You should tone it down, if you dont wanna cry soon..

Where is pocohantas..
Homegirl where you at..
What do you have to say about this sequel..
I read your comments on the previous thread..

immortalcrown:
You said your mother inherited the property from her father. You said your mother's siblings tried but failed to collect the property because your maternal grandfather, before his death, gave your mother the property. So, as long as your father legally married your mother and your mother died, your father owns the property. The only thing that can change it is if your mother legally willed the property to you before her death. Did your mother write a will concerning the property? If yes, who does the will mention as the owner of the property? If no will, your father owns the property. I am not typing anyhow. I am educating you. But I am not forcing the knowledge on you. You have the right to reject the knowledge if you detest the knowledge.

Well, may be you are right theoretically but not applicable to all, in some parts of this nation the cultures, customs and traditions supersede all this your theory, and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

Gnosticstudent:
Where is pocohantas..
Hom egirl where you at..
What do you have to say about this sequel..
I read your comments on the previous thread..

You should be tagging the people that said his father has the right to sell the land. Because nothing in this sequel is different from what I said before- it is wrong to sell an inheritance irrespective of who is doing the selling.

Gnosticstudent:


You have this notoriety for being mean and ruthless in several of your comments i have come across the few times i come around here...

You should tone it down, if you dont wanna cry soon..

Never quote this moniker again? Understand?