NeoWanZaeed:


LoL. . No ijmah of sahabahas on that.

It has straight dalil from the prophet.

Kulu bidah dolala wa kulu dolala fi nar

Suratul mahidah verse 3. The verse speaking on the completion of religion.

All Bidah directly dispute the verse

yGoodman:



everywhere, anytime and any moment, to beg when left with no option is better than lying

yGoodman:




Are khwāriji Kāfir?

yGoodman:





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yGoodman:




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Antiislaam:


Look at this allah's slave that can't defend the religion of allah

Antiislaam:


That question hard for allah to answer through you at this time of your Ramadan abi

advocatejare:

Unfortunately your prophet encouraged people to lie just because he wanted them to kill someone he didn’t like

Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). "The Prophet said, "You may say it." Then Muhammad bin Maslama went to Kab and said, "That man (i.e. Muhammad demands Sadaqa (i.e. Zakat) from us, and he has troubled us, and I have come to borrow something from you." On that, Kab said, "By Allah, you will get tired of him!" Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Now as we have followed him, we do not want to leave him unless and until we see how his end is going to be. Now we want you to lend us a camel load or two of food." ....
Then he requested Ka'b again, "Will you let me (smell your head)?" Ka'b said, "Yes." When Muhammad got a strong hold of him, he said (to his companions), "Get at him!" So they
killed him and went to the Prophet and informed him. (Abu Rafi) was killed after Ka'b bin Al- Ashraf."
-Sahih Bukhari 5:59:36

NeoWanZaeed:


Naaaaaaam

yGoodman:



Na to go ask for clarification on this. Cus, this one nah war things.

yGoodman:




What is Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) view on them as to whether they are kāfir or not?

With dalil ni o.

advocatejare:

There was no war, stop lying. Ka’b only exposed muhammad as being false and Muhammad sent hired killers to him

NeoWanZaeed:


Quote the Hadith and post it here na.

You leave rosul Hadith and you are quoting Ali.. LoL

You don't even know how to take dalil in Islam

yGoodman:


You can't talk about Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) without talking about the Khawāriji.

That is, he one way or the other must have said something regarding them.

In term of them being Muslims or kāfir what was his view?

Just answer, who knows whether a Kalifah was also wrong on a matter like such.



Nevertheless, innovating into the religion is against the completion of the religion but it wasn't stated anywhere (Qur'an or Hadīth) that all innovation = kufr.

No dalil here man.

yGoodman:


You can't talk about Ali (may Allah be pleased with him) without talking about the Khawāriji.

That is, he one way or the other must have said something regarding them.

In term of them being Muslims or kāfir what was his view?

Just answer, who knows whether a Kalifah was also wrong on a matter like such.



Nevertheless, innovating into the religion is against the completion of the religion but it wasn't stated anywhere (Qur'an or Hadīth) that all innovation = kufr.

No dalil here man.

yGoodman:




I found the hadīth under military expeditions. Abi wetin I suppose say?

advocatejare:

Did Ka’b draw arrow, spear or any weapon against Muhammad?

In which of the battles did the military expedition take place?

NeoWanZaeed:



Who killed the khawarij? LoL
Who the testified that the prophecy of rosul on the khawarij is truth after killing them?

Antiislaam:


Goan sleep jor

yGoodman:
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yGoodman:




This is very simple man, did he say anything regarding whether they are Kāfir or not?


Just answer yes or no.

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NeoWanZaeed:


Of course he did.
Quote what he said here and let's read it o

yGoodman:



You just he did, oya bring your dalil.

NeoWanZaeed:


You have absolutely no idea. All you do and follow is alfa ni

You don't even know or see or read what that alfa ni yourself


You are very far from Islam knowledge

yGoodman:



How? You said he did say something pertaining the issue under discussion and I asked you to bring a proof in order for the truth to be established.

What ignorance did I display for asking for proof. Fear Allah pls.

NeoWanZaeed:


Make a just stop this awkward discussion.

The hadith is doif. But your scholars don't know the difference. Just like Sufi. All Hadith is usable to them.

Bastards! They will leave the Hadith of ROSUL and be quoting sahabahas actions that's against the Hadith or quote scholars word.

NeoWanZaeed:




Bastards! They will leave the Hadith of ROSUL and be quoting sahabahas actions that's against the Hadith or quote scholars word.

Until you understand you can only take knowledge of Islam from prophet, you will never know peace. Coz sahabahas can make mistakes and so are the scholars but the prophet can't

yGoodman:



Does this mean the notion of making use of the understanding of the salaf that's strongly emphasised in Salafiyyah cannot be used in every sense?

yGoodman:



Post the Hadīth and who graded it doif?
Can we Logically say that Ali may Allah be pleased with him said nothing about the Khawāriji since your claimed only source is not even reliable?

NeoWanZaeed:


You don't even know who the salafs are.
You don't even know how to take dalil from the salafs


Go and books written by our scholars..Ibn Taymiyah and co.. lo ko eko