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Re: Refutation On Sufi by NeoWanZaeed(m): 3:39pm On Apr 12, 2022
yGoodman:


Who named it taweed uluiyyah?

Tawheed rububiyah (in making dua)
Tawheed huluhiyah ( the oness and power of Allah)
Tawheed asmaulah wasifat(the names and attributes of Allah)


There's lots of Quran verses explaining each of these things


Once again, division of bidah is NOT the problem.
Doing and defending ahlu bidah is the problem.



I listed somethings that the scholars who divides bidah never does.. and we too never do it..

But these people who took division of bidah from these scholars do everything the scholars preached against. Even sins xef. Like photo and video.. these keferi that divide Bidah here still do it
Re: Refutation On Sufi by NeoWanZaeed(m): 3:41pm On Apr 12, 2022
Antiislaam:


Yes.. stop begging, say No to fine barra, don't be a lazy boy, work harder and stop disgracing Islam





Who is your amiable sheik? grin


Find something else to say this christian boi. These fine bara is stale.. even your brother attacked you on that..



My amiable sheik.. Sheik Al Islam Abu Abdul Rahman Muhammad Ali Jabata (Hafizohulah)

If you can bring just 1 dalil on anything he has said about Islam that's wrong.. bring it..

You will never bring it.. all you can do is abuse
Re: Refutation On Sufi by Nobody: 10:13pm On Apr 12, 2022
NeoWanZaeed:


The scholars? No.. they are not commiting sin. They have reached level of ijtihad.

Those that follow the scholars fatawa without dalil ni keferi


What's your dalil for this?
Re: Refutation On Sufi by Nobody: 10:15pm On Apr 12, 2022
NeoWanZaeed:


Tawheed rububiyah (in making dua)
Tawheed huluhiyah ( the oness and power of Allah)
Tawheed asmaulah wasifat(the names and attributes of Allah)


There's lots of Quran verses explaining each of these things


Once again, division of bidah is NOT the problem.
Doing and defending ahlu bidah is the problem.



I listed somethings that the scholars who divides bidah never does.. and we too never do it..

But these people who took division of bidah from these scholars do everything the scholars preached against. Even sins xef. Like photo and video.. these keferi that divide Bidah here still do it

Can we find those words in the Qur'an and hadīth, as in huluiyah and the likes? As in straight dalil.
Re: Refutation On Sufi by Antiislaam(m): 2:42am On Apr 13, 2022
NeoWanZaeed:



Find something else to say this christian boi. These fine bara is stale.. even your brother attacked you on that..


Slave boi, it is better you go to quarry to blast stones rather than involving yourself in online fine barra activities

Who's your brother that is attacking you on that?


NeoWanZaeed:


My amiable sheik.. Sheik Al Islam Abu Abdul Rahman Muhammad Ali Jabata (Hafizohulah)

If you can bring just 1 dalil on anything he has said about Islam that's wrong.. bring it..

You will never bring it.. all you can do is abuse.

So you get amiable sheik while he can't help you financially. Tell your amiable sheik that you're into corporate online fine barra to get daily meal
Re: Refutation On Sufi by Antiislaam(m): 2:43am On Apr 13, 2022
yGoodman:



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See how shameful you are, so that question hard for allah to answer through you abi grin
Re: Refutation On Sufi by Antiislaam(m): 2:45am On Apr 13, 2022
yGoodman:



Subhanallah, he is determined not to ever comprehend.

Abi, is he lazy enough not to go back and check how the discussion got to this point?

That is Islam for you the same way you are doing likewise
Re: Refutation On Sufi by Antiislaam(m): 2:53am On Apr 13, 2022
yGoodman:


Somehow better than lying for living.

People like you can easily lie to survive.

I so much pity those clients and business partners that fell into the traps of skilled liars.

NL most skillful liar ọ kú orí re

So begging for money to eat is good for you guys in Islam, you've spoken well slave..


You called me most skillful liar for asking you If Adam, Moses, Noah, etc are all Muslims, why is Abd allāh the father of muhammad an idol worshipper?

It is finish for you guys in Islam grin
Re: Refutation On Sufi by Nobody: 5:35am On Apr 13, 2022
Antiislaam:


So begging for money to eat is good for you guys in Islam, you've spoken well slave..


You called me most skillful liar for asking you If Adam, Moses, Noah, etc are all Muslims, why is Abd allāh the father of muhammad an idol worshipper?

It is finish for you guys in Islam grin

Re: Refutation On Sufi by Nobody: 5:40am On Apr 13, 2022
Antiislaam:


So begging for money to eat is good for you guys in Islam, you've spoken well slave..


You called me most skillful liar for asking you If Adam, Moses, Noah, etc are all Muslims, why is Abd allāh the father of muhammad an idol worshipper?

It is finish for you guys in Islam grin


everywhere, anytime and any moment, to beg when left with no option is better than lying

Re: Refutation On Sufi by Nobody: 6:13am On Apr 13, 2022
Antiislaam:


See how shameful you are, so that question hard for allah to answer through you abi grin



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Re: Refutation On Sufi by NeoWanZaeed(m): 6:20am On Apr 13, 2022
yGoodman:



What's your dalil for this?

Amr ibn al-‘As reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “If a judge makes a ruling, striving to apply his reasoning and he is correct, he will have two rewards. If a judge makes a ruling, striving to apply his reasoning and he is mistaken, he will have one reward.”

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 7352, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 1716
Re: Refutation On Sufi by NeoWanZaeed(m): 6:22am On Apr 13, 2022
yGoodman:


Can we find those words in the Qur'an and hadīth, as in huluiyah and the likes? As in straight dalil.

It's clear you don't understand this part at all..

Go download majmoo fatawa volume 1 and 2.. it's basically on aqeedah

Perhaps you would understand.
Re: Refutation On Sufi by NeoWanZaeed(m): 6:24am On Apr 13, 2022
NeoWanZaeed:


Barbaharee did not divide bidah bro.


Yaaaaaa.. they're all wrong.


Our salafs told us not to follow them on any verdict they gave without dalil from prophet. Whoever does that is doing taqleed of the scholars and it's kufru.


And the way these Salaf divide Bidah is different from the kufar here.. the salafs don't

1. Affirm Islam for sects
2. Do not mix or defend them
3. Do not support democracy
4. Do not support voting
5. Doesn't eat with spoon
6. Doesn't refuse to call a kafir a kafir
7. Does not do walimah Aqeeqoh
8. Does not do public wedding
9. Does not marry from the sects (. Tablig or sufi or tadomun)
10. Does not mix with democrats (politicians) nor Snap photo with them.
11. Does not snap pictures
12. Does not do video recording for dawah




Everything that the kufar claiming Islam here.. the mumayiun.. all those salafs that divide Bidah did non of them..


No let them fool you by hiding under salafs

ygoodman

Division of Bidah is not the problem. Those scholars that divided bidah practices Islam the same way we do.
Re: Refutation On Sufi by Nobody: 4:00pm On Apr 13, 2022
NeoWanZaeed:


ygoodman

Division of Bidah is not the problem. Those scholars that divided bidah practices Islam the same way we do.


But most people would have known their selves to be a kāfir if not for the ijmaa of these scholars.

That means in one way or the other they are liable to punishment for they have mislead alot of people, most people because of them don't know eating with spoon has already made them a kāfir and when they know, they easily count it out because the ijmaa did not even addressed that as a bid'ah.

Or what is your say on following the ijmaa of scholars upon Salafiyyah?
Re: Refutation On Sufi by Nobody: 4:02pm On Apr 13, 2022
NeoWanZaeed:


ygoodman

Division of Bidah is not the problem. Those scholars that divided bidah practices Islam the same way we do.


And what of if they eat with spoon?
Re: Refutation On Sufi by NeoWanZaeed(m): 6:07pm On Apr 13, 2022
yGoodman:



And what of if they eat with spoon?

They don't. They follow Prophet tooth and nail
Re: Refutation On Sufi by NeoWanZaeed(m): 6:08pm On Apr 13, 2022
yGoodman:



But most people would have known their selves to be a kāfir if not for the ijmaa of these scholars.

That means in one way or the other they are liable to punishment for they have mislead alot of people, most people because of them don't know eating with spoon has already made them a kāfir and when they know, they easily count it out because the ijmaa did not even addressed that as a bid'ah.

Or what is your say on following the ijmaa of scholars upon Salafiyyah?

1. There's nothing like ijmah of scholars in Islam

We only have ijmah sahabahas
Re: Refutation On Sufi by Antiislaam(m): 6:50pm On Apr 13, 2022
yGoodman:




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Look at your life outside grin
Re: Refutation On Sufi by Antiislaam(m): 6:51pm On Apr 13, 2022
yGoodman:



everywhere, anytime and any moment, to beg when left with no option is better than lying

The idol called allah your messenger Muhammad inherited from his pagan father is affecting you negatively
Re: Refutation On Sufi by Antiislaam(m): 6:54pm On Apr 13, 2022
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Show that picture to the league of your imams and alfas including your second guy so as for you guys to do the necessary amendments..
Re: Refutation On Sufi by Nobody: 9:15pm On Apr 13, 2022
NeoWanZaeed:


They don't. They follow Prophet tooth and nail


But they neither say it is Haram to eat with spoon nor do they called makroon.
Re: Refutation On Sufi by Nobody: 9:16pm On Apr 13, 2022
NeoWanZaeed:


They don't. They follow Prophet tooth and nail

How do you know they don't?
Re: Refutation On Sufi by Nobody: 9:19pm On Apr 13, 2022
NeoWanZaeed:


1. There's nothing like ijmah of scholars in Islam

We only have ijmah sahabahas



What is the ijmaa of sahabas on all bid'ah being equal to kufr?
Re: Refutation On Sufi by Nobody: 9:20pm On Apr 13, 2022
Antiislaam:


Look at your life outside grin







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Re: Refutation On Sufi by Nobody: 9:21pm On Apr 13, 2022
Antiislaam:


The idol called allah your messenger Muhammad inherited from his pagan father is affecting you negatively


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Re: Refutation On Sufi by Nobody: 9:22pm On Apr 13, 2022
Antiislaam:


Show that picture to the league of your imams and alfas including your second guy so as for you guys to do the necessary amendments..






Thanks

















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Re: Refutation On Sufi by Antiislaam(m): 10:33pm On Apr 13, 2022
yGoodman:







Thanks

















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Welcome
Re: Refutation On Sufi by Antiislaam(m): 10:34pm On Apr 13, 2022
yGoodman:








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Sorry
Re: Refutation On Sufi by NeoWanZaeed(m): 11:50am On Apr 14, 2022
yGoodman:




What is the ijmaa of sahabas on all bid'ah being equal to kufr?

LoL. . No ijmah of sahabahas on that.

It has straight dalil from the prophet.

Kulu bidah dolala wa kulu dolala fi nar

Suratul mahidah verse 3. The verse speaking on the completion of religion.

All Bidah directly dispute the verse
Re: Refutation On Sufi by Nobody: 12:50pm On Apr 14, 2022
Antiislaam:


Welcome








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Re: Refutation On Sufi by Nobody: 12:51pm On Apr 14, 2022
Antiislaam:


Sorry









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