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Re: The Gospel Is Totally Free Pastor Benny Hinn Apologize!!! by genkins(m): 9:25pm On May 03, 2022 |
PaulOtl: Very aptly said. Your wisdom is great.nothing to fault up there. The prosperity gospel in Nigeria is making people lose focus of what is important. Christ taught mainly about love and that is the one thing lacking in our churches.how do u have rich churches and poor members? How can you continue collecting from the poor that your name now appears on Forbes? These young ones now see your wealth as evidence that you will be wealthy as soon as u answer God's call to be a preacher.nobody is thinking about the life hereafter. Nobody is thinking about heavenly riches. every youngling wants to make money and be rich . It's what thier pastors and society tells them. If after sometime u cannot make money, u start cutting corners, engaging in Yahoo or rituals to make it. Funny thing is, with 5 churches on every street, where is the prosperity in Nigeria ?we are the poverty capital of the world. We go cap in hand to borrow from atheist nations, everyone wants to japa to the atheist nations that became successful not by opening 5churches on every street but by hardwork and innovation. How many born again dollar billionaires are there in the first world 100?how many spirit filled billionaires are there in Nigeria? can other nations call us blessed? I weep for how these young ones are often brainwashed to think being a Christian means you will be rich.. Being rich is not bad.work for it. Innovate,solve society's problem.. You don't need to know God to be rich. Ask the Chinese and Germans. These churches make our youths lazy by selling illusions of the hope of riches, misinterpreting scriptures to say what scriptures did not say.Christianity preaches contentment and not the vanity of wealth. If u want to be rich, ask dangote how. Futhermore, I always advise Christians to try and read the Bible in its original language.. Hebrew,Aramaic and Greek. So as to get exactly what the writers meant. How can you base your faith on an erroneous translation of scripture. If you read my debate with the guy, you will see that kjv gives a narrative different from what nlt or Niv says. |
Re: The Gospel Is Totally Free Pastor Benny Hinn Apologize!!! by Nobody: 10:35pm On May 03, 2022 |
genkins:Thanks. Although, I went back to correct some typos in my writeup. What you're saying is really true, and it's a subject that many in the church do not like to attempt to teach on. It's not good for " business " and herd mentality. You see rich churchgoers drive the street in a hurry in a Sunday morning, in their Sunday best, and there's this Muslim poor beggar seated beside the road begging for alms. Or he has elephantiasis on one leg and is begging. The Christian couple notice him (the spirit draws their attention to him, one way or another) but they drive their S550 Mercedes sedan car past the beggar and even say to one another how much of a pity and an eyesore the beggar's condition is. That, may God help him. In that moment, they have lost a blessing and not acted Christlike. In a bid to hurriedly get to the physical church building, as against keeping the spiritual church (the actual church) sanctified and functional, they have driven quickly past the Muslim beggar and not stopped to offer him some money, then prayers and words of blessings (which true belivers are meant to be able to proclaim and it gets honoured by God) by virtue of their positions as heirs of God's kingdom. Like that, many have missed opportunities to showcase the gidtif the Spirit of God. By that inaction, many have failed to show love, which is what this Christian faith is primarily meant to display for the rest of the world to see, and judge with a clear conscience, devoid of sentiments. No matter how much Bill and Melinda Gates give to universities for research, grants here and there. No matter the so-called humanitarian work they do with their money, it doesn't move God. All the wealth of the Earth belongs to Yahweh. That's why he cited the example of ' the cattle on the thousand hills belong to me ' And, ' if I was hungry, will I tell you ? ' He is telling us that all is his. So we should use those riches for things that bring glory to his name. Not just doing it for clout sake, or to get worldy commendation, which has no spiritual reward (which one needs), but doing them in the name of God, promoting him through your giving and good works. Through those actions, people should be able to know that your God is the great provider, and not you, who is just a custodian of your God's earthly wealth. He blessed you (riches can also be a curse too, as a burden) to usei for his will on earth, since she knows that you know his name. But many don't seem to listen, and you know that still voice will hardly ever shout and will hardly ever force you against your own will. That voice is the voice of God (the Holy Spirit, the guardian). I think we've revealed so many things on this topic. It's left for whoever is reading to understand and to ask the Spirit for more clarity where they aren't still clear on. I remember a part of the Bible (I will find that verse later and come to add it here) where God was saying something like, " You fool. You think you're money is your defense and stronghold. Well, enjoy it, as it was already given to you as your compensation in this world, because you are not going to be a partaker of eternity in paradise. " Yes, he said the above, but not in the way I wrote it. I'll search for it tomorrow. Doesn't that tell us something about those who are stupendously wealthy right now in this world? And the ones who have died even long before? It teaches a lesson on riches, and why some seem to have it, even when you feel they shouldn't have it, since they are unbelievers and inventors of evil (e.g perverse machines innovators, guns conglomerate, weapons tycoons, condoms and intimacy gadgets billionaire companies, and so on ) they've already been compensated for their evil ways in earth, because they will suffer an everlasting tormenting in the world to come. This is also why we are told not to envy the unbeliever or covert his riches. It's all a test , a trap for that rich man or woman. He allows them to folly in their riches, seeing themselves to be wise and powerful, but in actuality they are empty, in agony, living in darkness and headed for the slaughter house (spiritual terms) leading to everlasting suffering. That verse helped me to know not to ever envy any rich person, but just wish to get mine, because I can only know myself and not the next rich person who might have gotten rich through " loving the world " (killings, rituals, weapons business, drugs, oppression, etc). Lol, I sense the frustration in your tone as it has to do with this generation of youth, as you called us. Well, not all of us are living in evil because of money. Many are still sane. I'm not even yet 30 years old , and I know this much (thanks to God who gave and is still giving me understanding) So I think there's people out there too who will resist and try to defeat the temptations of these end of days where doing evil is rampant. God helping us, we will never give in. Already, we know the consequences to even want to give in. Take care, thanks for the interractions. At least others will definitely learn a thing or two from all we've written. |
Re: The Gospel Is Totally Free Pastor Benny Hinn Apologize!!! by Ken4Christ: 10:38pm On May 03, 2022 |
genkins: You are in pre nursery in the school of the spirit. And you want to tutor me. God made Abraham rich. His son Isaac was equally rich, Jacob was given wisdom to make wealth in spite of how his uncle tried to cheat him. God gave King Solomon wealth. We are the seed of Abraham and his blessing are ours. It is true everybody cannot be rich. This is because not everyone is ready to do what it takes to be rich. Some people are very lazy. They are also profane. Quite a few others have foundational issues that can hinder them from getting rich. The summary of my point is; God is not against the prosperity of his children. He has never been and will never be. He is only against those who hold tight to their wealth instead of releasing it to advance the course of the gospel and help the poor. Christ gave his disciples the assurance of receiving hundredfold increase for every sacrifice made for his sake and the gospel. He made this remark after the young rich ruler couldn't follow his instructions to sell all he had and give to the poor. Jesus was actually showing him the way to true wealth. Hence he said; Mark 10:29-30 “Yes,” Jesus replied, “and I assure you that everyone who has given up house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or property, for my sake and for the Good News, WILL RECEIVE NOW in return a HUNDRED TIMES AS MANY houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and property—along with persecution. And in the world to come that person will have eternal life. Mark 10:29-30 New Living Translation. So, the rich man who could have received hundred times what he should have given to the poor. This is Jesus teaching prosperity. Apostle Paul also taught prosperity. Apostle Peter did the same thing. John the beloved said it was his greatest wish for us to prosper. They may not have been wealthy because of the period they lived in. They suffered persecutions and many were killed. But they made us understand God's will concerning this subject. True wealth does not come overnight. But if you keep doing the right thing, you will certainly get to the point where you will lack nothing. |
Re: The Gospel Is Totally Free Pastor Benny Hinn Apologize!!! by genkins(m): 10:48pm On May 03, 2022 |
Ken4Christ: Like I said b4, your grasp of scriptures is like 2 and a half percent.you think the blessings of Abraham we enjoy Is money and wealth. Lwkmd.. If u haven't learnt anything and corrected yourself from my reply and what @paulOtl wrote.. oboy leave it.. Because if you read what we wrote, u would not have quoted Mark 10:29-30 because the answer is there already. U are a lost case. @PaulOtl is not even up to 30 but see the wealth of knowledge he is pouring.. U dey form spirit filled. Common comprehension your spirit no fit teach you. Bye 2 Likes |
Re: The Gospel Is Totally Free Pastor Benny Hinn Apologize!!! by Kobojunkie: 3:12am On May 04, 2022 |
PaulOtl:I am afraid you are wrong about the reason Jesus Christ told the rich young man to go sell everything and give it all away to the poor. Jesus Christ asked the rich young man to sell everything because in order to enter into Heaven, we are actually commanded by Him to sell everything we have and give it all away to gain a place in Heaven - Matthew 13 vs 44 - 46. Jesus Christ taught His followers that in order to be saved and to have true life(enter in through the Narrow door that leads to true llfe) they must loose their life .i.e. loose/abandon everything - career, job, businesses, reputation, friends, family etc. In Matthew 19 vs 28 - 30, Jesus Christ also explains that only those who loose everything for His sake will be rewarded in this life and the life to come. So Jesus Christ's answer to the young man was the actual requirement given to all those who will be His followers with intention of actually making it into Heaven at the end. |
Re: The Gospel Is Totally Free Pastor Benny Hinn Apologize!!! by Cordenify(m): 4:07am On May 04, 2022 |
Re: The Gospel Is Totally Free Pastor Benny Hinn Apologize!!! by Nobody: 6:20am On May 04, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:Kobojunkie , I'm afraid I won't be reading through your comment. I really wanna put this topic to rest. We dealt with it extensively and for too long yesterday. As soon as I logged in, as the rains started, and read the words, "I'm afraid you are wrong " and then I looked at the moniker and saw that it was kobojonkie, who loves to argue over most religious topics, I just told myself that I don't have the energy for this, this time of day. I didn't go any further with the reading, and instead, thought to send you this reply ASAP. 'Cause, no mater what I will say, you will not accept my points. Then you will attach your favourite emoticon ( ) with each paragraph, trying to deliver some kind of effect, which I'm skilled at dodging, or good at not allowing it achieve it's aim. Can't say the same for other users. Shalom ma'am! We out! Edited: Sorry, I said ma'am, because I've always thought you to be a woman (mid forties) if I ain't mistaken. |
Re: The Gospel Is Totally Free Pastor Benny Hinn Apologize!!! by Ken4Christ: 7:23am On May 04, 2022 |
genkins: See apprentice giving scores to his master. I back up every point with scriptures. OK, tell me what is Abraham's blessing. Let me be your student for once. |
Re: The Gospel Is Totally Free Pastor Benny Hinn Apologize!!! by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:59am On May 04, 2022 |
genkins: Abraham's blessings is full of RISHES that's what God promised his descendants {Genesis 12:3; Deuteronomy 7:14; 28:3} but the riches God promised Abraham's descendants isn't about material possessions that's why most faithful servants of God were poor materially. It's all about the sacred secrets having to do with life and the wisdom to live a happy life that's satisfying. Isaiah 1:18; 48:17-18 God never promised any of His servants material riches in the midst of people who are poor to the extent that God's servants won't have rest of mind but to put their trust in the same poor people at his gates and distributing weapons for them to protect him. According to God's word His worshipers will only enjoy material possessions when the economic situation of where they live is good, in that case they won't need to start protecting themselves with WEAPONS due to their hungry neighbours. But when talking about WISDOM only God's people will be the wisest of all men, so they will have speak anywhere with great wisdom and nobody from any other religion will be able to silence their WISDOM! Isaiah 54:17 That's why Jesus of Nazareth though was poor materially speaking was the wisest of all men, so his disciples must be the wisest anywhere they go! Matthew 28:18-20 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Gospel Is Totally Free Pastor Benny Hinn Apologize!!! by genkins(m): 8:09am On May 04, 2022 |
Ken4Christ:Scriptures that you are interpreting like say u no go school. Just pouring trash that your pulpit thieves told you. Gal 3:14 He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus,so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit. God promised to bless not only Abraham, in Genesis 12:1-3, but to also bless all the families of the earth through him. And in Galatians 3:13-14, Paul relates this blessing as being bestowed upon the Gentiles through the redemptive work of Jesus Christ on the cross. Many prosperity preachers interpret the Abrahamic blessing as prospering in material and financial abundance. They also assert that it is salvation through Jesus Christ that gives Christians, who are Abraham’s spiritual children, access to the Abrahamic blessing. But when these biblical passages mentioning the Abrahamic blessing were interpreted within the context of Paul’s understanding of the blessing and using a theological method of biblical interpretation that incorporates a synchronic method of biblical exegesis with the sub-method of lexical and syntactic analysis, you will find out that the blessing is that of sonship through Jesus Christ by virtue of the gift of the Holy Spirit and not material or financial blessing. |
Re: The Gospel Is Totally Free Pastor Benny Hinn Apologize!!! by Nobody: 8:22am On May 04, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: What about "give, and it shall be given unto you..."? |
Re: The Gospel Is Totally Free Pastor Benny Hinn Apologize!!! by genkins(m): 9:42am On May 04, 2022 |
HedwigesMaduro: The question is, Give to who? Pastors? Church? Pastors use this scripture to mean 'giving' is giving to them thus monopolizing it. That is not correct. You give to the poor and needy and it shall be given back to you, shaken pressed down and running over. |
Re: The Gospel Is Totally Free Pastor Benny Hinn Apologize!!! by Nobody: 1:05pm On May 04, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:Great truths you've outlined. I agree. That's why the same word of God says, a poor man's wisdom is despised. Ecclesiastes 9:16 And wisdom doesn't mean one will be rich. So there's a certain kind of richness God will rather see us have( rich in love, spiritual gifts, understanding and wisdom) . But he isn't against us gaining wealth on earth, but it has to not take the place of God in our lives. I rather be a poor wise man than be a rich fool, who thinks he is infact wise. But I won't be stark poor. I know he will provide my needs. |
Re: The Gospel Is Totally Free Pastor Benny Hinn Apologize!!! by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:20pm On May 04, 2022 |
PaulOtl: May God bless you because you've just spoken the mind of the Christ! 1Corinthians 2:16 1 Like |
Re: The Gospel Is Totally Free Pastor Benny Hinn Apologize!!! by Kobojunkie: 3:17pm On May 04, 2022 |
HedwigesMaduro:A major rule in the Kingdom of God is as revealed by Jesus Christ's parable through His Parable of the 10 Talents or Minas in Matthew 25 vs 14 - 30 & Luke 19 vs 12 - 27 is as below. 28 “So the master told his other servants, ‘Take the one bag of money from that servant and give it to the servant who has ten bags.The above stated rule connected by Jesus Christ rule to all resources that concerns us, and we are talking faith, understanding, love, forgiveness, and even material items etc.,. For example, to increase your faith, you need to use the faith you have already already given by God. To gain more understanding of the Kingdom of God, you first need to use the understanding you have already neen given by God. The same thus applies where giving is concerned, to get God to give you, you need to first give that which God has already given you to the poor. What is at the core of the rule is obedience.... the more we use those resources in obedience of God's commandments, the more of the same resources God gives to us. So while the doctrine of seed sowing which has mostly used to bilk the gullible out of their hard earned money, makes an attempt at explaining God, it does a terribly shoddy job since it's main focus is on fleecing God's sheep, rather than teaching that which God in fact commands. |
Re: The Gospel Is Totally Free Pastor Benny Hinn Apologize!!! by Nobody: 3:37pm On May 04, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:Amen. And may He bless you too. I feel humbled whenever I am able to speak from within and it comes out sounding like what the Holy Spirit would want a Christian to say. I keep getting better at it and it amazes me, or, surprises me. But I know this kind of reasoning must be coming from above. When you open your mind and heart to learn, to ponder about things and mysteries of life, and humbly admitting to God that you want to understand things, not claiming that you know anything, then I think that is when God starts to make provision for you to understand tihings, even as far as understanding various mysteries. He is seeing that you can be a useful vessel for his work. He's understudying you, even though he already knows your end from the beginning. It's still what we call " mysteries " Im looking forward to the future and how he's going to use me, and how I'm gonna have to brace up to face great oppositions and forces. It's gonna be exciting and intense. But it's his will , not mine...So let it take place as He allows it to. He won't let you be cut down before your time(before achieving all he wants you to for his name's sake, and the kingdom) Ahhh! See how the words just dey flow out like Cool springs on a summer evening. I'm impressed in myself...really. But, I know the journey ahead is still far, and it's not always going to be without pain, but he's teaching us to count it worthy, and a thing of privilege to suffer for his name's sake. Not for useless reasons. I better stop my epistle here. Cuz I know myself, I can go on and on, when it comes to talking about God and the world, a d mysteries . I need to end it here. |
Re: The Gospel Is Totally Free Pastor Benny Hinn Apologize!!! by Ken4Christ: 11:16pm On May 04, 2022 |
genkins: So, when Isaac blessed Jacob with the blessing of Abraham, Jacob received the Holy Spirit and became a son? Apply what you just said to the verse below; Genesis 28:4 And GIVE THEE THE BLESSING OF ABRAHAM, to thee, and to thy seed with thee; that thou mayest inherit the land wherein thou art a stranger, which God gave unto Abraham |
Re: The Gospel Is Totally Free Pastor Benny Hinn Apologize!!! by genkins(m): 11:38pm On May 04, 2022 |
Ken4Christ: I Don tire for ya matter. Abeg.. Anyone for this thread, abeg help me explain to this boy, Abraham's blessings to us- gentile christians... I Don try. U get Abraham's Financial blessings since and na poor all of una poor. The ones wey get small change, na thief dem dey thief. Na only una GO dey rich becos him de collect from all of una. Use small brain abeg. No quote me again, I Don try for you. Bye |
Re: The Gospel Is Totally Free Pastor Benny Hinn Apologize!!! by Ken4Christ: 7:10am On May 05, 2022 |
genkins: We will continue. You must admit that you are wrong. Abraham's blessing is an all round blessing. It includes, material, financial, health, fruitfulness and success in all that you do. When Abraham was called by God, he had nothing worth nothing. His asset declaration was as good as nothing. God gave him seven fold promise; Genesis 12:2-3 2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: 3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. From the passage above, putting it in itemized form, it reads; 1. I will make of thee a great nation 2. I will bless thee 3. Make thy name great. 4. Thou shall be a blessing 5. I will bless them that bless thee 6. Curse them that curse thee 7. In thee, all the families of the earth shall be blessed. After, Abraham obeyed God, the blessing started to show. The scripture said; Genesis 13:2 And Abram was very rich in cattle, in silver, and in gold. Abraham was so rich that he had 300 servants in his house that he also trained for war. Today, if you have one houseboy or a housegirl, you are a big man. And before Abraham died, the scripture said; Genesis 24:1 And Abraham was old, and well stricken in age: and the LORD had BLESSED ABRAHAM IN ALL THINGS. This is the blessing of Abraham. It is to be blessed in all things. And this blessing has been given to us. No wonder Apostle Peter wrote; 2nd Peter 1:3 According as his divine power HATH GIVEN UNTO US ALL THINGS that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue. Apostle Paul said the same thing; 1st Corinthians 1:21-23 21 Therefore let no man glory in men. FOR ALL THINGS ARE YOURS. 22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, OR THE WORLD, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; ALL ARE YOURS. Why then did Jesus not live in affluence? He laid down his life for us. The Apostles also laid down their lives for the church. Hence Paul said; 2 Corinthians 6:10 As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, YET MAKING MANY RICH; as having nothing, and YET POSSESSING ALL THINGS. Why are many Christians poor today in spite of the fact that he has given us all things? 1. Disobedience. So many professing believers are disobedient. Isaiah 1:19 says; "If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land." If we obey his word diligently, wealth will not elude us. But it will not happen overnight. Our Lord Jesus said the same thing; Matthew 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be ADDED UNTO YOU. The phrase, added to you means increase. And that is prosperity. 2. State of spiritual maturity. God will not release wealth to you if you are not matured spiritually. It will destroy you. This is why Apostle Paul wrote; Galatians 4:1-2. 1 Now I say, That THE HEIR, AS LONG AS HE IS A CHILD, DIFFERETH NOTHING FROM A SERVANT, though he be lord of all; 2 But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father. This is common sense. A billionaire father should not release wealth for a ten year old child just because he is rich. It will destroy him. So, you must grow up first spiritually. The test begins with little money released to us. God watches how you manage it. This will determine if you are qualified for more. 3. Sin. When you live in sin, it could affect your prosperity. Hence the scripture says; Proverbs 28:13 He that covereth his sins SHALL NOT PROSPER, but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy 4. Laziness. Some Christians are just lazy. If you are lazy, you will be poor. 5. Foundational issues. Some believers are poor because of their foundation. Sometimes, the things our parents and grandparents did affects us. But it can be broken in Christ prayerfully. 6. The Confession of our lips. The scripture says that death and life are in the power of the tongue. So, it matters what you say. If you speak lack, you will get lack. |
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