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Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by confido2017: 11:21am On May 25, 2022 |
Good morning all, please is it really true about getting work from Nigeria to UK or Canada? As any one here gotten through this way or means? Thank you |
Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by jedisco(m): 11:27am On May 25, 2022 |
sukkot: It's quite obvious you've not worked in the UK before. The cost for most of those items you listed are laughable. £300 per week for clothes? That's about enough to clothe the family for 6m- 1yr. £10 for MOT? The cost of MOT paid yearly is about £45. I dont know how you got 10. If you know the percentage of familes earning upto 5000 after tax in the UK, you'd stop saying that. If you look thru this thread, most high earners in Nigeria who migrated have consistently said it's most times worth the move if you go thru the right means. One thing to understand is how deveoped countries are structured. In the UK, there are loads of people living on benefits. The system needs folks to work and pay tax. Therefore, the system is structured in a way that with virtually any job you do, if you work reasonably, you should be able to lead a good life. The system needs folks to work so the government does not pay them. In Nigeria, you need to work so you don't die. Hence, the way you look at 'menial' jobs is quite different. A plumber, uber driver e t.c can easily take home more money than some doctors. 4 Likes |
Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by jedisco(m): 11:31am On May 25, 2022 |
MrBrownJay1: This is laughable. Do you know what £5000 is? It looks as if the salaries earned by premier league players confuse many. How much do you think MPs earn? London is London for a reason. It's the financial capital of Europe and attracts money the world over. A £5k pm take home after tax is good money in most parts of the UK 3 Likes |
Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by sukkot: 11:31am On May 25, 2022 |
jedisco:negro yu must be crazy. i am mr UK on nairaland. what i dont knw about the UK is not worth knowing. and yes a family of 6 would buy school uniforms and house clothes and wigs and accesories and socks and shoes etc. am not saying they are buying it weekly but i am doing a weekly budget of an annual salary. try to understand. and the bolded is what differentiates me and other people like me from you. i dont just want to live a good life and have Zero In my bank account. i want to thrive and have some money in my bank account. and thats why i dont like the UK. IT IS STRUCTURED TO JUST LIVE A SUBSISTENCE LIFE 3 Likes |
Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by laridris: 11:50am On May 25, 2022 |
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Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by jedisco(m): 11:51am On May 25, 2022 |
sukkot: Young lout I am also in the UK, a higher income earner and I pay over 40% of my take home in income tax that's aside roughly 10% in NI and then pensions too. When in Nigeria, I earned good money with less tax but I'd rather I paid a similarly high rate in Nigeria and still had same basic amenities I get in the UK. It is absolutely senseless to budget £300 pw for clothes as a working family. Thats £15.6k pa on clothes for a family trying to keep up. Tell me how you came about your weekly £10 for mot or £30 for TV licence 3 Likes |
Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by jedisco(m): 11:56am On May 25, 2022 |
sukkot: I don't need millions in my bank account without giving my fair share back to make my society livable. I want to lead a sensible life, contribute to society and go when my time comes. The UK is structured in such a way that most are propped up into a reasonable living standard and those who want to go home with loads have to give a good chunk back to society. What is the structure in Nigeria where our senators earn more than the US president? That is the difference between national wealth and individual wealth. I'd rather be a middle income earner in a developed society than a high income earner in a country where millions live on less than 1 usd per day. 3 Likes |
Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by sukkot: 12:06pm On May 25, 2022 |
jedisco:TOO MUCH VAWULENCE . anyway you know to say that you are a high income earner in the UK MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. because high income earner in the UK starts at 40k per annum but truly 40k is nothing after they remove tax and rent and council tax etc etc. and speaking of basic amenties in the UK to be honest with you unless you are just a sickler who needs the NHS all the time,, i dont see any special basic amenities in the UK. as per 300 per clothes weekly you cant understand it because you dont have 4 growing children who need to upgrade school unform and house clothes and pajamas all the time. E GET WHY OYINBO PEOPLE DEY ONLY BORN 1 PIKIN, ITS NOT BECAUSE THEY DONT LIKE CHLDREN, CHLDREN ARE EXPENSIVE N THE UK. as per the MOT alright a slight exagerration but its only a 9 pound exaggeriation. 9 pounds is nothing. also consider the tv license a slight exagerration. however keep in mind i didnt even mention income tax and phone line for 4 children and so that guy wth his 4 kids in order to be slightly above poverty line has to earn before taxes about 1500 pounds a week aka 6000 a month aka 4.8 million naira a month. if he earns less than this ? he is in the poverty category and it will be a life of struggles 1 Like |
Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by GloriousGbola: 12:09pm On May 25, 2022 |
litaninja: Well, growing kids will go through clothes so fast your head will spin. My son is going through a growth spurt and within 3 months his trousers are jumping. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by sukkot: 12:12pm On May 25, 2022 |
jedisco:yeah thats not me. i need freedom. money is freedom. if i wake up today and feel like being in bali i want to be able to be there. if i want to be n venezuela today i want to be able to do it. i need that freedom that excess money brings. the UK is a trap. no freedom. you are trapped in a hamster wheel cycle of work and bills, .THATS NEVER BEING FOR ME. i hate prison ( invisble prison walls ) 1 Like |
Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by sukkot: 12:15pm On May 25, 2022 |
GloriousGbola:right bro hehe. some of these people just dont know |
Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by jedisco(m): 12:35pm On May 25, 2022 |
sukkot: The income data for the UK is widely available. Tell me what percentage of UK families earn upto 6k before tax? Then also tell me the poverty rate in Nigeria and the UK. I have lived both worlds and know which I'd chose. I would avoid details but having over 65% of your eventual takehome taxed at a rate of 40% or above is significant. The travel from high birth rate, high death rate to low birth rate, low death rate is one that's well documented world over. The reason why raising kids is considered expensive in most western nations boild down to the cost of child care or missed income if parents tend fully themselves. Food, clothing e.t.c are not first world problems. If you're working in the UK and struggling with clothing, you should be asking yourself serious questions. I and family wear largely branded items and I know how much is spent on clothing. Budgeting £15.6k pa on clothing for an average family is senseless. Aside labour and accommodation, virtually every other expensive is relatively much more cheaper in the UK than in Nigeria. Virtually everything on your list was extremely exagerrated 4 Likes
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Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by jedisco(m): 12:38pm On May 25, 2022 |
sukkot: Then why not leave and enjoy tax-free freedom in Nigeria? And when in Nigeria, make sure you settle in the 'cheaper' states like Gombe, Jigawa, Kogi... Nigeria is even expensive. I heard Niger and Central African Republic are much cheaper 2 Likes |
Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by Nobody: 12:39pm On May 25, 2022 |
sukkot: OP don't blink an eye. Na dem... 1 Like |
Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by sukkot: 12:41pm On May 25, 2022 |
jedisco:tell me the percentage of peoplein the UK who have 4 children ? less than .00001 percent which is why it is an aging population. my pont being the poverty in the UK is not so obvious because people dont have children to complicate their own circumstances. however if you have 4 children, to be above poverty level you are on a higher threshold of what you need to earn than the average brit because the average brit does not have 4 kids. and so for 4 kids you need to earn at least 6000 pounds a month or you are finshed |
Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by jedisco(m): 12:43pm On May 25, 2022 |
GloriousGbola: Hehe... sometimes, some statements surprise me. Seems it's only in the uk that children grow up. Kids in Nigeria are all stunted right? May I remind you that most Nigerias rely on used clothes from the west. Almost all those clothes imported to Nigeria are clothes that were thrownaway or donated after use. If clothes are your problem, you'd get same used clothes people buy in Nigeria for free in the UK 1 Like |
Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by sukkot: 12:44pm On May 25, 2022 |
jedisco:i did. am in naija as i speak to you am in lagos though 1 Like |
Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by jedisco(m): 12:51pm On May 25, 2022 |
sukkot: You misunderstand how populations develop. In Nigeria for example, the birth rate in the south is much less than that of the north even for monogamous homes. It's not because northerners are very rich or southerners are scared of the cost of raising kids. That is also thesame reason why most families in the UK have less kids. Look over Europe, Japan e.t.c. it's thesame story. A family in the UK saying they're poor is much different from same in Nigeria. I know a number of families living on council homes freely with extra financial support and the kids attending good public schools. After schooling, those kids can apply for student loans if they want to go to uni. In the end, the society bankrolls them thru it all just because their mum said she has mental health problems and hence can't work. Now compare that to Nigeria... I can go on but it seems a waste of time comparing poverty levels in Nigeria to the UK. Very soon, you'd compare electricity supply. 1 Like |
Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by GloriousGbola: 12:51pm On May 25, 2022 |
jedisco: And you think Nigerians in the UK will go for used clothes? Maybe you dress your kids with clothes from oxfam This is the same problem highlighted in every immigrant conversation. People assume that they can somehow replicate their exact situation and expenses in Nigeria in the UK. Do you also buy your electronics as 'tested'? Do you buy your cars as 'first body'? Do you casually pirate movies and other media over your isp? This is the kind of nonsense thinking where we will hear I am earning 2 million naira in uk This is why dave chapelle said poverty if not tackled becomes a state of mind. Someone will run to UK with poverty mentality and start wasting time that can be used to earn money to start sorting through discarded clothes. And feeling smart on top of it. |
Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by jedisco(m): 12:55pm On May 25, 2022 |
sukkot: Lol... why you no pursue cheap state. I'm sure even in Lagos, you would not be in cheap Ajegunle |
Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by sukkot: 12:55pm On May 25, 2022 |
jedisco:and come to lagos the whole streets is full of 2 or 3 year old northerner chldren in traffic begging for money . you will see millions of tiny cute 2 year old hausa kids dangerously chasing traffic trying to wipe your windshield for money. so i dont understand what point you were trying to make with that comparison as for the other thing you said i dont doubt that you have a better basic livng standard in the uk but this is for people who want basic living standards. me while i am a minimalist but yet i dont want a basic livng standard. i dont need much in life but i dont want to live my life tied to bills and work |
Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by sukkot: 1:00pm On May 25, 2022 |
jedisco:hey its where my people are. but to be honest with you a cheaper state that is more organised would be better. am eyeing abeokuta or osogbo or akure |
Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by jedisco(m): 1:02pm On May 25, 2022 |
GloriousGbola: You miss my point. My point is that you don't readily have used clothes in the UK because there is no market for them. Clothes are clothes. You can decide to buy Gucci shoes for £1k per pair. For heaven sake, kids clothes are extremely cheap in the UK and always on a discount. You could easily get discounted Clarks shoes for about £10. Those shoes would would be used by two kids at least and still be in good condition. Like I said earlier, if you are working in the UK and what your kids wear is your problem, you should be asking yourself serious questions. My significant expenditure when I come to kids are these: Childcare Private schools (if you want to) Enjoyable holidays What support I'd give to those kids as they launch into life- houses e.t.c. Things like food, clothing are extremely negligible 3 Likes |
Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by jedisco(m): 1:18pm On May 25, 2022 |
sukkot: My point is that the reason why the UK is less than that in Nigeria is not down to cost of raising kids. As nations become more developed, their birth rates drop. Even the well off in the UK are not birthing kids anyhow. Infact, the richer folks have less kids What's the future of these kids tomorrow? We're here blaming a country that has been able to take care of that. Due do my area of work, I have seen how devastating poverty and income inequalities can be in developing nations. I remember Sanusi once broke down in tears because of the number of kids that were dying as their parents could not raise ridiculously small sums (<500 naira) to transport their children to the hospital. In Nigeria, you could get a 8yr old, maltreat her, make her a house slave to your kids and even a sex slave as she grows older with no repercussions. Not same elsewhere. That's the reason why I value the social care system/child safeguarding system elsewhere and I dont see the tax paid in maintaining those as a waste. A good society is one everybody benefits from. It's good to have luxury in life (I also do) but it's more important when majority around are also comfortable 5 Likes |
Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by sukkot: 1:26pm On May 25, 2022 |
jedisco:i hear ya bro but it is not my business how other people live their lives. everybody with his or her own cross and karmic debts. i plan to carve my own little heaven in hell. there are many places in nigeria with better standards of living than the UK. better soup na money kill am. make your money and go move to a gated estate in lekki phase 1. they have swimming pools 24 7 electricity, gym, shopping complex, restaurant etc inside them. and you dont have to deal with racism. or beng second class citizen |
Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by Gemma11: 1:30pm On May 25, 2022 |
Ilekokonit: If the kids are school aged then it won't cost them much and it would be easy for both mum and Dad to arrange their work schedules around the times the kids will be at school and school holidays. Also after school clubs, if needed will cost no more than £50 a month for each child. Also if oldest child is over 15, then the younger ones can be left with them in the daytime until parents get back from work. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by AngelicBeing: 1:37pm On May 25, 2022 |
sukkot:Watch your back oo, no let bokoharam or kidnappers know your movement oo or else den go flog shege comot from your bumbum, tie you for banana tree and ask For 930 million pounds as Ransom |
Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by GloriousGbola: 1:39pm On May 25, 2022 |
Gemma11: A 15 year old is not a responsibile adult |
Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by sukkot: 1:40pm On May 25, 2022 |
AngelicBeing:bros my juju dey strong ooo. i have been cooked very well in the cauldron. if kidnapper see me he will be the one donating money to me
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Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by GloriousGbola: 1:41pm On May 25, 2022 |
sukkot: There is one catch though. Your house better have a fortified safe room. All those lekki are wealth surrounded by poverty. All you need is an end sars style breakdown of law and order and those docile niggas will be breaking into your crib to carry your TV, your car and then burn the house down. This has happened 3 Likes |
Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by litaninja(m): 1:42pm On May 25, 2022 |
Lmao. The hulk!!! GloriousGbola: |
Re: Should I Leave My Job And Japa To The UK by AngelicBeing: 1:43pm On May 25, 2022 |
sukkot:l know, Greater is He that is in Sukkot than he that is in the kidnappers, and Elisha prayed, Lord open his eyes and He saw Chariots of fire surrounding sukkot |
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