lekjons:
Do you have screenshots to back this up?

Cos from the screenshots he sent, you told him that the laptop needs a battery replacement, even you just said it now..

He also claimed to have carried you along while fixing the battery, which imo means, he never bought the laptop "as it is" from you

Or am I missing something?

He didn’t carry me a long as per we had agreed he should keep me updated. He was busy sending me messages and I was just responding to him. At some point I even pointed out to him he doesn’t actually need to be sending me the “updates” as our business is done.
The pix below was him calling me that early morning and I told him over the call that I am selling it as it is because I am not in lagos to follow up the Laptop’s issue.
Exactly the same thing I told him is what I told so many other people that messaged me concerning the laptop and they all backed out of the deal. The reason the laptop remained available till he messaged me again a month later after he first contacted me for the laptop.

Hmmn..

I'm dropping more proofs / screenshots of the conversation that ensued between us showing how I was open on the deal and carrying him along "just in case"

You all can see how he was gradually drifting away from the issue and trying pinning it on me.

@Jamesilvar, you can drop your proofs here showing you ever stated that you're selling "As it is" and then me AGREEING to buying as it is and not upon an agreement on replacing battery as you called the issue "needs a battery replacement"


Show us the proof(s)

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Jamesilvar:


He didn’t carry me a long as per we had agreed he should keep me updated. He was busy sending me messages and I was just responding to him. At some point I even pointed out to him he doesn’t actually need to be sending me the “updates” as our business is done.
The pix below was him calling me that early morning and I told him over the call that I am selling it as it is because I am not in lagos to follow up the Laptop’s issue.
Exactly the same thing I told him is what I told so many other people that messaged me concerning the laptop and they all backed out of the deal. The reason the laptop remained available till he messaged me again a month later after he first contacted me for the laptop.

Your claims are flawed, bro. The first call was 8:10 A.M and that was me calling you to let you know I already made the payment and I spoke with the receiver of the laptop.

If I called to agree to buying as it is from you on phone call, how come I made payment at 8;09AM ?


AGREEMENT should come FIRST before payment and not the other way round.

Jamesilvar, Stop lying!!! I never agreed to buying as it is.

The time I made payment is attached to this ... 8:09AM.


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Jamesilvar:


He didn’t carry me a long as per we had agreed he should keep me updated. He was busy sending me messages and I was just responding to him. At some point I even pointed out to him he doesn’t actually need to be sending me the “updates” as our business is done.
The pix below was him calling me that early morning and I told him over the call that I am selling it as it is because I am not in lagos to follow up the Laptop’s issue.
Exactly the same thing I told him is what I told so many other people that messaged me concerning the laptop and they all backed out of the deal. The reason the laptop remained available till he messaged me again a month later after he first contacted me for the laptop.

Bro this smacks of trying to play smart. You wan use this guy head and really, it's not fair. Like you see say battery no be the issue, and the screenshot is there pointing to it that you were the one that mentioned battery replacement first, only for you to dey change mouth say no be your business? Make person buy faulty something from you and you no wan return money, or at least provide a solution?

LoL complainant na nice guy. You hold my 280k dey speak all this English hehehehehe, you'd better be a strong christian, you get good Alfa, or your baba really Sabi back to sender.

Jamesilvar:
Goodevening everyone.

I will try to keep this response brief.
Abimloaded contacted me for an Asus Rog Zephyrus laptop I posted. First contact was in April 25, I sent him pics he said someone will contact me. I dunno if the person did or not cos many persons contacted me for the same deal but everyone backed out once I told them the Laptop’s condition. Fast forward to may 23, he contacted me again asking about the laptops I posted, I replied him. He asked about the availability of the Asus again I told him it’s available. He messaged me if the there are any issues with the laptop. At first I was thinking he was talking about one of the MSI laptops I posted as well. When he pointed out he is talking about the Asus I told him the battery doesn’t hold charge that I believe I told him before. He was disappointed and said I never mentioned it to him. I told him sorry I thought I had told him before because I have always told everyone who contacted me for the deal the reason they all backed out. Many of them will be viewing this topic. We discussed further I told him battery replacement should fix the issue. we also spoke on the phone and I told him that’s how the laptop landed and as I am not in lagos I haven’t pursued the Laptop’s issue and cos of that, I am selling as it is, though I believe battery replacement should fix the issue. He made payment and laptop was delivered to his contact. He received it and tested it everything was working as described.
He told me it was taken to CV, tested the first battery it wasn’t working, tested the second it also wasn’t working, they got a third one it will charge and stop.
When he couldn’t sort out the battery issue, he contacted me again that he wants to return the laptop because he thinks it’s not a battery issue. I reminded him that our deal was done on that monday and we didn’t have any agreement to such. He kept insisting he will return the laptop that the problem is not what I said it’s the problem. I quickly reminded him the problem as I stated is that LAPTOP BATTERY DOESN’T HOLD CHARGE. Whether laptop replacement fixed the issue or not is not my concern because he should have thought of the risk before making the purchase.

I then asked him assuming he had fixed the laptop and sold it well, would he have remitted some of his profits to me in view of the fact that I sold to him at a huge loss? Business is a pool of risks and you don’t chest more than you can bear.
He said I insulted him this morning, yes I told him he was stupid. That was because he messaged me and was threatening me about how he will deal with me and my business, that I will hear from him on NL, WhatsApp and other Social Media. Where does he know me from?
My business with him is done, I don’t really care what he does with the laptop, as far as I am concerned if he can’t fix it or he can eat it.

Read again sir,you clearly stated that battery replaced should fix it and all deed shows its not battery that's the issue. And I think you might have a knowledge about this, because I wonder why you didn't want to change the battery yourself and sell fast as everyone who contacted you backed off. Boss please, try and find a way to settle this for business sake.

Jung:


Damn, it's your guys for me bro. Like the audacity to calm down and type this hehehehe.

God knows why e dey direct certain people to do business with certain people, cos me? Police and court no go put mouth for this matter.

Can you elaborate boss , cos I don't know if you are for or against what jamesilvar is saying .

Personally I know for a fact that the term " sold as it is " isn't self explanatory so most newbies wouldn't understand it's implication or meaning .

Jung:


Bro this smacks of trying to play smart. You wan use this guy head and really, it's not fair. Like you see say battery no be the issue, and the screenshot is there pointing to it that you were the one that mentioned battery replacement first, only for you to dey change mouth say no be your business? Make person buy faulty something from you and you no wan return money, or at least provide a solution?

LoL complainant na nice guy. You hold my 280k dey speak all this English hehehehehe, you'd better be a strong christian, you get good Alfa, or your baba really Sabi back to sender.

Thanks for the observation. He's trying to shift the post and change the whole narrative because of 280k.

With all things showing he mentioned battery replacement FIRST by himself as a fix, man is still trying to think he's the smartest. Honestly, I gave him enough time to think it through and let him realise he's supposed to accept his item and find a fix. It was clear later on that he's not ready which clearly indicates that he's been looking for a way to discard the item.

Jamesilvar, I expected much better from you than all you're doing, tbh.

D4donnn:


Can you elaborate boss , cos I don't know if you are for or against what jamesilvar is saying .

Personally I know for a fact that the term " sold as it is " isn't self explanatory so most newbies wouldn't understand it's implication or meaning .

Daddy, aside the as is" seller boldly states battery replacement should fix the issue and now that it didn't what should buyer do?

Jamesilvar:


He didn’t carry me a long as per we had agreed he should keep me updated. He was busy sending me messages and I was just responding to him. At some point I even pointed out to him he doesn’t actually need to be sending me the “updates” as our business is done.
The pix below was him calling me that early morning and I told him over the call that I am selling it as it is because I am not in lagos to follow up the Laptop’s issue.
Exactly the same thing I told him is what I told so many other people that messaged me concerning the laptop and they all backed out of the deal. The reason the laptop remained available till he messaged me again a month later after he first contacted me for the laptop.

Was it after you sold the laptop, you notified him that you are selling as it is or before? No dey confuse yourself

D4donnn:


Can you elaborate boss , cos I don't know if you are for or against what jamesilvar is saying .

Personally I know for a fact that the term " sold as it is " isn't self explanatory so most newbies wouldn't understand it's implication or meaning .

I'm not supporting the James guy; far from it. Truth is, If it were me, I'd find a way to see how we fit run repairs on that laptop without needing to return any money. Feels like the smart thing to do. Or highest, I clear you say "bro, E don sup oh, Wetin we go do like this?", then we start talking. Laslas I find a way to compensate you or arrange refund small small depending on your power. But outrightly stating that you don't care? Hehehehe issokay.

Jamesilvar:


He didn’t carry me a long as per we had agreed he should keep me updated. He was busy sending me messages and I was just responding to him. At some point I even pointed out to him he doesn’t actually need to be sending me the “updates” as our business is done.
The pix below was him calling me that early morning and I told him over the call that I am selling it as it is because I am not in lagos to follow up the Laptop’s issue.
Exactly the same thing I told him is what I told so many other people that messaged me concerning the laptop and they all backed out of the deal. The reason the laptop remained available till he messaged me again a month later after he first contacted me for the laptop.

Telling other clients that the battery doesn't hold still doesn't change the issue on ground..
The buyer said the battery is not the issue as you stated.

D4donnn:


Can you elaborate boss , cos I don't know if you are for or against what jamesilvar is saying .

Personally I know for a fact that the term " sold as it is " isn't self explanatory so most newbies wouldn't understand it's implication or meaning .

Did the seller inform the buyer before the purchase that he is "selling as it is".. If he informed the buyer, then there is no case..

Toma2:

Was it after you sold the laptop, you notified him that you are selling as it is or before? No dey confuse yourself

There was never a time "selling as it is" came up in our conversation.

He never mentioned it. He only said it needed a battery replacement because it doesn't hold charge.

Jamesilvar knows this. He is just trying to play smart and avoid taking responsibility.

Toma2:

Did the seller inform the buyer before the purchase that he is selling "as it is".. If he informed the buyer, then there is no case..

From the chats and all, we never agreed to such. I will never even agree to buying such. It's basically not possible because I know the implications.

I don't know why Jamesilvar is all of a sudden trying to force a faulty item on me when it's glaring that it's not what he claimed that's wrong with the laptop.

@jamesilvar

Jung:


Bro this smacks of trying to play smart. You wan use this guy head and really, it's not fair. Like you see say battery no be the issue, and the screenshot is there pointing to it that you were the one that mentioned battery replacement first, only for you to dey change mouth say no be your business? Make person buy faulty something from you and you no wan return money, or at least provide a solution?

LoL complainant na nice guy. You hold my 280k dey speak all this English hehehehehe, you'd better be a strong christian, you get good Alfa, or your baba really Sabi back to sender.

stop all if na you,bro if na you na the same route you will follow.nevertheless you shouldn't blame the seller,that laptop is sold as is.if its only battery no where the seller won't just go and buy the battery instead of selling at such a huge lose.and lastly the buyer wants to be clever by half.

chidekings:
stop all if na you,bro if na you na the same route you will follow.nevertheless you shouldn't blame the seller,that laptop is sold as is.if its only battery no where the seller won't just go and buy the battery instead of selling at such a huge lose.and lastly the buyer wants to be clever by half.

Where was it stated that he is selling as it is....
Check genuine sellers, its always indicated on their post even if the item is locked.

chidekings:
stop all if na you,bro if na you na the same route you will follow.nevertheless you shouldn't blame the seller,that laptop is sold as is.if its only battery no where the seller won't just go and buy the battery instead of selling at such a huge lose.and lastly the buyer wants to be clever by half.

It doesn't appear you followed the whole thing from start. Nowhere was it stated that laptop was having an issue till I asked.

After asking, his claim was that battery was an issue and needs replacement.

Nothing like selling as is, from our conversations. If he mentioned that, I'd have backed off immediately because I know the implications.


I was telling him about the battery change for a reason - Just so he knows that if battery isn't the issue as he claims, we're open. If battery had worked, this wouldn't have come up. Issue is, the battery isn't the issue - Jamesilvar was wrong on his claim that the battery was the issue.

It's a straightforward thing. Read from start and check our chats. Logical looks.

Toma2:

Where was it stated that he is selling as it is....
Check genuine sellers, its always indicated on their post even if the item is locked.

His ads lacked anything relating to that. No issue was stated. Even while discussing , it wasn't stated till I asked.

chidekings:
stop all if na you,bro if na you na the same route you will follow.nevertheless you shouldn't blame the seller,that laptop is sold as is.if its only battery no where the seller won't just go and buy the battery instead of selling at such a huge lose.and lastly the buyer wants to be clever by half.

Bro with all due respect, not everyone moves like a criminal abeg. Drop that narrative asap. The seller clearly stated that the battery needed replacement, Abi you blind or just no wan see that fact?

Did the seller tell him that the issue pass battery replacement? We really point fingers at our leaders, but here we are with a premium example of someone trying to rip off the other person and is getting the needed support. Ok, so as Dem change battery and e no work, make 280k go down the drain Abi? Is that how you do business?

If yes, bro no offense, but you fit ever make am.

Nobody can go far with that mentality.

Abimloaded!

This is an experience.

Like i told you in the group, i was interested in same laptop. I know James so i asked him whats wrong because i know the price was quite low and he told me whats wrong with the Laptop(not good because if i had not asked it would have been my cup of tea).

Most times as a buyer do your due diligence, when buying a defective item ask questions.

The moment you proceed to purchase, the seller can exempt him/herself from further closures.

I could sell a laptop i feel its just about replacing battery and not know otherwise, i dont need to say selling as is. It already implies it's a sell as is sales.

Seller sells in assumption and buyer buys in assumption.

Next time ask a seller selling defective item for what the closure would be if otherwise.

I am sorry this happened to you, it's not a pleasant experience due to the huge money involved.

James my friend see if you can work with Abim.

Stay blessed.

omotolsy:
Abimloaded!

This is an experience.

Like i told you in the group, i was interested in same laptop. I know James so i asked him whats wrong because i know the price was quite low and he told me whats wrong with the Laptop(not good because if i had not asked it would have been my cup of tea).

Most times as a buyer do your due diligence, when buying a defective item ask yourself questions.

The moment you proceed to purchase, the seller can exempt him/herself from further closures.

I could sell a laptop i feel its just about replacing battery and not know otherwise, i dont need to say selling as is. It already implies it's a sell as is sales.

Seller sells in assumption and buyer buys in assumption.

Next time ask a seller selling defective item for what the closure would be if otherwise.

I am sorry this happened to you, it's not a pleasant experience due to the huge money involved.

James my friend see if you can work with Abim.

Stay blessed.

Selling and buying in assumption? Hehehe wonderful.

I hate Nigerians, no cap.

omotolsy:
Abimloaded!

This is an experience.

Like i told you in the group, i was interested in same laptop. I know James so i asked him whats wrong because i know the price was quite low and he told me whats wrong with the Laptop(not good because if i had not asked it would have been my cup of tea).

Most times as a buyer do your due diligence, when buying a defective item ask questions.

The moment you proceed to purchase, the seller can exempt him/herself from further closures.

I could sell a laptop i feel its just about replacing battery and not know otherwise, i dont need to say selling as is. It already implies it's a sell as is sales.

Seller sells in assumption and buyer buys in assumption.

Next time ask a seller selling defective item for what the closure would be if otherwise.

I am sorry this happened to you, it's not a pleasant experience due to the huge money involved.

James my friend see if you can work with Abim.

Stay blessed.

Stop backing evil.
Our potential customers will be afraid to buy here if you can type this bro.
Buyer should forget 280k just like that?
If Jamessilver stated the laptop battery needs replacement and it's otherwise. Jamessilver, on a peaceful ground refund him. Save your potential customers from eluding their mind with what's happening here.


Ebay alone, if you buy something and the seller stated keyboard needs replacement and it was otherwise. You message the seller and he refused. Just open a case of item received not as described. Instantly ebay will close the case on your favour.

Jamessilver would've stated it's a motherboard issue, explain in details. Not battery need replacement while it's actually board issue.
Business is not win win everyday. Never you use another person money to outshine.

Please refund him

Good or bad I won't hide it

humblesteve:

Daddy, aside the as is" seller boldly states battery replacement should fix the issue and now that it didn't what should buyer do?

You don talk am master , you know say most sellers love using the "selling as it is " to avoid liability . But since he's stated a likely solution for the issue and I believe the buyer most definitely relied on that suggestiog to complete the purchase then oga jamesilver you go find a way to work out a resolution no be to they call buyer names and ignore his messages .

omotolsy:
Abimloaded!

This is an experience.

Like i told you in the group, i was interested in same laptop. I know James so i asked him whats wrong because i know the price was quite low and he told me whats wrong with the Laptop(not good because if i had not asked it would have been my cup of tea).

Most times as a buyer do your due diligence, when buying a defective item ask questions.

The moment you proceed to purchase, the seller can exempt him/herself from further closures.

I could sell a laptop i feel its just about replacing battery and not know otherwise, i dont need to say selling as is. It already implies it's a sell as is sales.

Seller sells in assumption and buyer buys in assumption.

Next time ask a seller selling defective item for what the closure would be if otherwise.

I am sorry this happened to you, it's not a pleasant experience due to the huge money involved.

James my friend see if you can work with Abim.

Stay blessed.

Na this kind of reasoning I believe say make you block me for Whatsapp cos I'll never understand why one would think like this , anyways na your opinion sha .

But I need not tell you that it's not just flawed but e not even they rational .

omotolsy:
Abimloaded!

This is an experience.

Like i told you in the group, i was interested in same laptop. I know James so i asked him whats wrong because i know the price was quite low and he told me whats wrong with the Laptop(not good because if i had not asked it would have been my cup of tea).

Most times as a buyer do your due diligence, when buying a defective item ask questions.

The moment you proceed to purchase, the seller can exempt him/herself from further closures.

I could sell a laptop i feel its just about replacing battery and not know otherwise, i dont need to say selling as is. It already implies it's a sell as is sales.

Seller sells in assumption and buyer buys in assumption.

Next time ask a seller selling defective item for what the closure would be if otherwise.

I am sorry this happened to you, it's not a pleasant experience due to the huge money involved.

James my friend see if you can work with Abim.

Stay blessed.

He who lacks sense,let him ask. See your life? Try dey reduce hand for nkpiri nmiri.

omotolsy:
Abimloaded!

This is an experience.

Like i told you in the group, i was interested in same laptop. I know James so i asked him whats wrong because i know the price was quite low and he told me whats wrong with the Laptop(not good because if i had not asked it would have been my cup of tea).

Most times as a buyer do your due diligence, when buying a defective item ask questions.

The moment you proceed to purchase, the seller can exempt him/herself from further closures.

I could sell a laptop i feel its just about replacing battery and not know otherwise, i dont need to say selling as is. It already implies it's a sell as is sales.

Seller sells in assumption and buyer buys in assumption.

Next time ask a seller selling defective item for what the closure would be if otherwise.

I am sorry this happened to you, it's not a pleasant experience due to the huge money involved.

James my friend see if you can work with Abim.

Stay blessed.

You don fall my hand

Jamesilvar:
Goodevening everyone.

I will try to keep this response brief.
Abimloaded contacted me for an Asus Rog Zephyrus laptop I posted. First contact was in April 25, I sent him pics he said someone will contact me. I dunno if the person did or not cos many persons contacted me for the same deal but everyone backed out once I told them the Laptop’s condition. Fast forward to may 23, he contacted me again asking about the laptops I posted, I replied him. He asked about the availability of the Asus again I told him it’s available. He messaged me if the there are any issues with the laptop. At first I was thinking he was talking about one of the MSI laptops I posted as well. When he pointed out he is talking about the Asus I told him the battery doesn’t hold charge that I believe I told him before. He was disappointed and said I never mentioned it to him. I told him sorry I thought I had told him before because I have always told everyone who contacted me for the deal the reason they all backed out. Many of them will be viewing this topic. We discussed further I told him battery replacement should fix the issue. we also spoke on the phone and I told him that’s how the laptop landed and as I am not in lagos I haven’t pursued the Laptop’s issue and cos of that, I am selling as it is, though I believe battery replacement should fix the issue. He made payment and laptop was delivered to his contact. He received it and tested it everything was working as described.
He told me it was taken to CV, tested the first battery it wasn’t working, tested the second it also wasn’t working, they got a third one it will charge and stop.
When he couldn’t sort out the battery issue, he contacted me again that he wants to return the laptop because he thinks it’s not a battery issue. I reminded him that our deal was done on that monday and we didn’t have any agreement to such. He kept insisting he will return the laptop that the problem is not what I said it’s the problem. I quickly reminded him the problem as I stated is that LAPTOP BATTERY DOESN’T HOLD CHARGE. Whether laptop replacement fixed the issue or not is not my concern because he should have thought of the risk before making the purchase.

I then asked him assuming he had fixed the laptop and sold it well, would he have remitted some of his profits to me in view of the fact that I sold to him at a huge loss? Business is a pool of risks and you don’t chest more than you can bear.
He said I insulted him this morning, yes I told him he was stupid. That was because he messaged me and was threatening me about how he will deal with me and my business, that I will hear from him on NL, WhatsApp and other Social Media. Where does he know me from?
My business with him is done, I don’t really care what he does with the laptop, as far as I am concerned if he can’t fix it or he can eat it.

I really don't like when people are not straight, all these things you are doing will only dent your image, you clearly told him that battery replacement will fix the issue and he bought it and changed the battery yet the issue persisted..

See let's save the much talks, chat the buyer up and ask him what he wants, if he wants refund, give it to him cos the device was not as described..

We await your rapid response..

omotolsy:
Abimloaded!

This is an experience.

Like i told you in the group, i was interested in same laptop. I know James so i asked him whats wrong because i know the price was quite low and he told me whats wrong with the Laptop(not good because if i had not asked it would have been my cup of tea).

Most times as a buyer do your due diligence, when buying a defective item ask questions.

The moment you proceed to purchase, the seller can exempt him/herself from further closures.

I could sell a laptop i feel its just about replacing battery and not know otherwise, i dont need to say selling as is. It already implies it's a sell as is sales.

Seller sells in assumption and buyer buys in assumption.

Next time ask a seller selling defective item for what the closure would be if otherwise.

I am sorry this happened to you, it's not a pleasant experience due to the huge money involved.

James my friend see if you can work with Abim.

Stay blessed.

This shouldn't be coming from you at all. How can you say I didn't do due diligence? From the chats, I was the one who asked Jamesilvar if something wasn't wrong with the laptop, otherwise, I doubt he'd have stated it because the first time I asked him in April, he told me nothing was wrong with it. When I saw it again, I was surprised and then I asked again, you said nothing is wrong with this laptop? And that was when he opened up about it needing a battery replacement and since I believe it's something that is what seller says, I'd hold him responsible to his words if it happens that what he claimed wasn't the issue and that's exactly what's going on here.

So how is it my fault ? This shouldn't have come from you at all. If 280k is that small and easy to forget like you said, you can send me. I'm sure you won't say this same thing if you were in my shoes.

The issue he declared wasn't the issue that appeared after trials. Jamesilvar himself knows this.

bobo65:


I really don't like when people are not straight, all these things you are doing will only dent your image, you clearly told him that battery replacement will fix the issue and he bought it and changed the battery yet the issue persisted..

See let's save the much talks, chat the buyer up and ask him what he wants, if he wants refund, give it to him cos the device was not as described..

We await your rapid response..

I'm surprised that came from omotolsy. I told Jamesilvar that if I had used an escrow for this thing, it wouldn't have turned out this way, he as usual, switched to saying nothing will happen if I had used escrow for this same matter. He has the money with him and pushed a defective item to me and now he is trying to forcefully hold on down to it not minding whatever dent this could bring.

Everything is clear, the issue was never battery replacement, Jamesilvar.
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Toma2:

Did the seller inform the buyer before the purchase that he is "selling as it is".. If he informed the buyer, then there is no case..

Nowhere on the chat did the seller mention “sold as it is”. It is clear he knew the problem from the onset. Hence, the reason why he keeps defending himself.