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Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 4:51pm On Jul 04, 2022
Khanben:


I am not saying they will do the trade, i was just wondering why they would even consider it and the only thing i could come up with is finances.
Wiggins in case you don't know is on the last year of his Max contract at $33mil. Wiggins might be asking for a max contract at $172mil and every indication points to Poole getting around a $100mil/4yr deal, which might even now be higher seeing that Afrenee Simmons got that.
KD on the other hand, is signed on a $198mil/4yr contract.
In that same 4yrs span, Wiggins and Poole contract combined, might be at around $240mil
So considering GSW pays luxury tax at about 6x, it is something every good front office will do their due diligence on.

PS: Personally, I will not make the trade and I think GSW will not do it, but we are talking about money here
lol

Again, let me simplify the thinking process. Bob Myers talked to Steph Curry, Steve Kerr, Draymond and then all 4 agreed that Warriors are better of trading Wiggins (who cannot be involved in any deal when another CBA player is in the Nets) and 2 first round picks - potentially even Wiseman - will be worthy to bring back the player they just proved they can win without and who left them saltily and has been less consistent and older since he left them?

You are definitely definitely better than that, even if others aren't.

Like I implored before, some people are consistently known to align with winners and some others have no history of such. It is always wise to follow those who have consistently shown to know the way. e get why.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 4:54pm On Jul 04, 2022
benji93:
Anyone can say anyone is interested in someone. Besides, I go like get down with that babe no mean I go do am. cheesy grin. I fit even put the story out there to turn up the heat. But yet we have seen people get down with babes that will cost them a lot. Na to fold arms dey look. I am just hoping the history, this championship, and the fact that you don't want to sell your future for the now that has an expiry of a few years before it breaks down. I would like to think this organization wants to dominate for decades.
It is Phoenix Suns I am pitying. Let them not see the chess pieces and the real game that is being played, and rush to overpay for him. Na that time they will know why Joe Lacob said "Light years ahead". lol

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Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 4:56pm On Jul 04, 2022
Skrrrrrrr:
It's a rumour FFS. Anyone can show interest, the problem is what they are willing to give up to pursue that interest. Ain't no way the warriors would give up Wigs, Kuminga and moody for a man that got swept by the team they dominated in the finals.....
All na just smoke.
grin Just be reading the dumb posts and be laughing.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 5:06pm On Jul 04, 2022
Skrrrrrrr:


grin grin grin
What you on about. Kd said he'd like to return to the warriors. Let me tell you this, the only reason this deal won't pull through is because the organization aren't foolish enough to give up all that for KD. KD would return to the warriors at the drop of a hat if they are willing to pay.

Some things are not worth responding to. See that 4th ring? It was the ultimate middle finger. Some people will never recover from it.

Just like you rightly pointed out, Marc Spears can claim anything. In fact, let us even assume the warriors truly put out such. KD knowing about all the criticism he faced while here will now be open to facing the same ridicule all over? Then, GSW that just won without him, will throw more at getting him back older and atrophied, than what they did before, knowing even he will be unlikely to face the same barrage of criticism?

Even if some people don't rate themselves they should rate the best organization in basketball with 4 rings all after 2008 abeg.

Like I said before, na our competitors way fit panic overpay I dey laugh. grin

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Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 5:34pm On Jul 04, 2022
benji93:
Anyone can say anyone is interested in someone. Besides, I go like get down with that babe no mean I go do am. cheesy grin. I fit even put the story out there to turn up the heat. But yet we have seen people get down with babes that will cost them a lot. Na to fold arms dey look. I am just hoping the history, this championship, and the fact that you don't want to sell your future for the now that has an expiry of a few years before it breaks down. I would like to think this organization wants to dominate for decades.
I just read your post on CR7. If the warriors truly put out that trade offer, then be sure it is similar to what City did to make United overpay for CR7. I have no doubts about it. If we did it, then we want Grizzlies or Phoenix to overpay for him.

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Re: The NBA Begins by benji93: 5:40pm On Jul 04, 2022
I won't be surprised if that's the case. I mean you can also win by running your competition into bad financial decisions, that will affect them in the future.
Android17:
I just read your post on CR7. If the warriors truly put out that trade offer, then be sure it is similar to what City did to make United overpay for CR7. I have no doubts about it. If we did it, then we want Grizzlies or Phoenix to overpay for him.

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Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 7:10pm On Jul 04, 2022
benji93:
He's box office. That's enough goods to sell. cheesy grin

as in cardboard box grin All the handles in the world and he cannot score over one determined defender. So what is the use of all the dribbling. Na streetball we come watch? grin
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 7:13pm On Jul 04, 2022
Tinneh:

Sir what about DURANT and kawhi

What has Kawhi done in the last 3 years? Perhaps you are right that I am too harsh on Durant. I think Nash sucked as a coach, and could not run plays to free up Durant. So yeah, Durant should bounce back in the right environment.
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 2:20am On Jul 08, 2022
Who is following the drama going on in the NCAA with the formation of two super conferences, the SEC and the BIG 10?
Also, what a gutsy performance by R. Nadal yesterday.. one for the ages.
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 2:22am On Jul 08, 2022
birdman:


What has Kawhi done in the last 3 years? .

Instinctively, I was going to argue otherwise but when I read it even more I realized you are absolutely right on this one..
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 5:37am On Jul 08, 2022
Khanben:


I am not saying they will do the trade, i was just wondering why they would even consider it and the only thing i could come up with is finances.
Wiggins in case you don't know is on the last year of his Max contract at $33mil. Wiggins might be asking for a max contract at $172mil and every indication points to Poole getting around a $100mil/4yr deal, which might even now be higher seeing that Afrenee Simmons got that.
KD on the other hand, is signed on a $198mil/4yr contract.
In that same 4yrs span, Wiggins and Poole contract combined, might be at around $240mil
So considering GSW pays luxury tax at about 6x, it is something every good front office will do their due diligence on.

PS: Personally, I will not make the trade and I think GSW will not do it, but we are talking about money here
What will Golden State want to do with Kevin Durant again for the love of God? They have the right balance of youth to foil the veterans and be in the Championship conversation for another 3 seasons barring extreme bad luck
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 5:41am On Jul 08, 2022
Skrrrrrrr:


grin grin grin
What you on about. Kd said he'd like to return to the warriors. Let me tell you this, the only reason this deal won't pull through is because the organization aren't foolish enough to give up all that for KD. KD would return to the warriors at the drop of a hat if they are willing to pay.

I don't want to believe KD is that bereft of shame. Even if he wins 3 straight chips he will still look like a clown. I don't know why he's running from the grind. The Nets just signed TJ Warren and if Ben Simmons can show some courage they might be in to something
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 5:52am On Jul 08, 2022
Khanben:


Personally adding Kuminga to any trade is a no no. The dude has the potential to be a number 1. I can swallow Wiseman and even Poole. But Kuminga is a no go area.
As for the Curry time line, that is another reason they might be thinking of KD. We know for a fact that a team with a healthy KD, Steph, Klay and Green is practically unbeatable. They might just bring him in, to all but guarantee, a GSW 3peat.
Giving steph 6 rings
Why will they want to cannibalize their legacy like that? Getting KD will help them win more rings but surely it will not boost his standing in the pantheon of all time greats. Now imagine he wins another ring sans KD now we are discussing whether he's actually surpassed Magic

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Re: The NBA Begins by Skrrrrrrr: 7:55am On Jul 08, 2022
A40:
I don't want to believe KD is that bereft of shame. Even if he wins 3 straight chips he will still look like a clown. I don't know why he's running from the grind. The Nets just signed TJ Warren and if Ben Simmons can show some courage they might be in to something

There is not reason at all for him to leave.
If he stays, Kyrie stays too. Simmons isn't a bum, his shot needs improvement but he is fine. They have TJ, Seth Curry can shoot.
If they all stay healthy, that's a pretty solid Team.
The nets have showed him loyalty, signed him, knowing that he'd sit out a year and may not be the same player. They took the Gamble. It's time for him to return the favor...
I am sure Kyrie would behave, going forward. No one cares for his antics anymore.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 2:34pm On Jul 08, 2022
Some of these analytics are absolute trash, a joke and many times used for marketing. On NBA2K, Chet. H is coming in with a strength rating of 81 while Ajala came in with 79 when he got drafted…I mean, how?

Oh and if you are wondering, as funny as this reads, these athletes take these things serious.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Android17: 8:10pm On Jul 08, 2022
Disclaimer: this post is not about Kevin Durant grin

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Re: The NBA Begins by Khanben: 9:24pm On Jul 08, 2022
A40:
What will Golden State want to do with Kevin Durant again for the love of God? They have the right balance of youth to foil the veterans and be in the Championship conversation for another 3 seasons barring extreme bad luck

You see what you just mentioned is exactly the issue. With what they have they are in the conversation for the next 3 championships, with KD barring injuries they are guaranteed 3 of them. So that is the issue for GSW right now, do you want to have a very good chance at the chip for the next 3 years, and then have a competitive team going forward from there. Or do you want to all but guarantee the chip for the same 3yrs and then after that start a rebuild.
Re: The NBA Begins by Khanben: 9:32pm On Jul 08, 2022
A40:
Why will they want to cannibalize their legacy like that? Getting KD will help them win more rings but surely it will not boost his standing in the pantheon of all time greats. Now imagine he wins another ring sans KD now we are discussing whether he's actually surpassed Magic

That is one way of looking at it, but one of the salient point, is Steph has a reputation for selflessness and willingness to sacrifice for the team's glory.
So based on that, the equation for the team is simple. All but guarantee the next 3 chips barring injury and then start a rebuild after that, or have a very good chance of winning any of the next 3 chips and also have a strong core that will remain competitive after those 3 yrs. Also it might actually be cheaper for the team to bring in KD and if Wiggins and Poole are the ones leaving, yes a 3rd team has to be involved if Wiggins is going to be part of the deal, but GSW will definitely save money on luxury tax payments if those 2 are the core of what they are giving up.
Re: The NBA Begins by Khanben: 10:10pm On Jul 08, 2022
Android17:
Disclaimer: this post is not about Kevin Durant grin

The issue for me is the Nets asking price, 2 allstar caliber players and multiple picks. No team in the nba can give that up and still be in the running for a championship.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Khanben: 11:44pm On Jul 08, 2022
A $15mil paycut for next season shocked shocked shocked.Harden really wants that ring
Re: The NBA Begins by felix00(m): 1:29am On Jul 09, 2022
BREAKING: Damian Lillard and Portland Trail Blazers are close to finalizing an agreement on a two-year, close to $122 million max extension, league sources tell @YahooSports.
Re: The NBA Begins by felix00(m): 1:29am On Jul 09, 2022
felix00:
BREAKING: Damian Lillard and Portland Trail Blazers are close to finalizing an agreement on a two-year, close to $122 million max extension, league sources tell @YahooSports.

61M/year.

That's 11/12M more than KD and giannis
Re: The NBA Begins by Khanben: 4:12am On Jul 09, 2022
felix00:


61M/year.

That's 11/12M more than KD and giannis

Teams like Blazers and Wizards are going nowhere. Dame and Beal are all about the money and should stop talking about winning

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Re: The NBA Begins by afrodoc2: 5:01am On Jul 09, 2022
Khanben:


Teams like Blazers and Wizards are going nowhere. Dame and Beal are all about the money and should stop talking about winning

They don't call him Dame Dolla for nothing. cheesy
Re: The NBA Begins by etidy: 8:30am On Jul 09, 2022
Khanben:
A $15mil paycut for next season shocked shocked shocked.Harden really wants that ring

Facts and I hope he wins one. He already has a regular season MVP, a Scoring title, A ring will take him to another stratosphere.
Even his approach to this off-season is different, he's focused and very fit. It is now or never


And you want me take players who already are 200-300 million + but can't forgive 10 million on a 200 million contract to join a contender or to get the necessary help they need as been serious about winning. I blame the useless franchises giving out these contracts sha.

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Re: The NBA Begins by Khanben: 2:57pm On Jul 09, 2022
Quick question Kobe vs Duncan who was better?
Re: The NBA Begins by etidy: 3:16pm On Jul 09, 2022
Khanben:
Quick question Kobe vs Duncan who was better?

You wan cause world War 3 grin

I Will say Duncan sha grin but it's so close.
Re: The NBA Begins by Khanben: 5:45pm On Jul 09, 2022
etidy:


You wan cause world War 3 grin

I Will say Duncan sha grin but it's so close.

grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 1:28am On Jul 10, 2022
Khanben:
Quick question Kobe vs Duncan who was better?

Duncan, and its not close. If Duncan hogged the ball half as much as Kobe did, he would have 50 20 10 every night. He could score with his back to the basket on anyone. Or kiss it off the glass, an unblockable money shot
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 7:57am On Jul 10, 2022
Khanben:


You see what you just mentioned is exactly the issue. With what they have they are in the conversation for the next 3 championships, with KD barring injuries they are guaranteed 3 of them. So that is the issue for GSW right now, do you want to have a very good chance at the chip for the next 3 years, and then have a competitive team going forward from there. Or do you want to all but guarantee the chip for the same 3yrs and then after that start a rebuild.
I think 2019 proved that you can never guarantee a title till these guys actually play on the court. Bear in mind KD had injury issues last season as well.

Honestly I feel that good vibes died with 2019. I don't see any sense rekindling it. The Warriors winning one more chip with this team would be worth more than 3 straight chips adding KD. And I can guarantee you they are not winning 3 straight. Too many things have to go your way for that to happen.

Hell this Warriors team as presently built are likelier doing a 3peat than what they will be left with after gutting their entire young depth for KD.

KD and Steph will be 35 with 16 and 14 years of ball respectively. Klay coming off an ACL and Achilles injury. I daresay trading for KD would be suicidal

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Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 8:00am On Jul 10, 2022
birdman:


Duncan, and its not close. If Duncan hogged the ball half as much as Kobe did, he would have 50 20 10 every night. He could score with his back to the basket on anyone. Or kiss it off the glass, an unblockable money shot
I would have picked Duncan just for consistency and stability till I dug into their playoff series clashes. Kobe used to absolutely destroy them. I can't in good conscience put Duncan over Kobe after seeing how much Kobe used to torch Duncan and the Spurs.

Kobe averaged 28 a game on Duncan. And dethroned him and his team 3x. There's a reason Timmy never repeated. Kobe

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