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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 1:58pm On Jul 11, 2022
EmmanuelScott1:


You can't use last election to equate here, we're talking about Muslim-muslim ticket, last election is Muslim-christian.

The same people who did not vote when a pastor was VP?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis007(m): 1:59pm On Jul 11, 2022
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Make una allow APC to lose in peace nau. At least they've dug their own grave, let them die honorably and peacefully.

A Yoruba Muslim from South West has never been Nigerian President or Vice President whether as a Military or Civilian..... no one cries of marginalisation.

When a Yoruba Muslim had a shot at it, along with a Kanuri Muslim, it was cancelled. History of 1993 about to repeat itself in 2023.

A Yoruba Muslim and a Kanuri Muslim under a progressive Party!!!

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by onyemaair: 1:59pm On Jul 11, 2022
Android17:
I am not using the metrics from twitter to apportion winners. I am using it to provide context for a disunited Christianity all over the world.

So using one person's post on Twitter is enough to prove a point but using a poll of over 70 thousand participants where one candidate won over 80 perfect is not an accurate tell of the trend abi?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 2:01pm On Jul 11, 2022
Agadinaagwuofe:


Exactly my point, if twitter cannot be used to determine electorates how then can you use it to determine how disunited Christians are.

Sometimes when they type here, I even doubt if I stay around SW Christians sef.

grin grin grin

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 2:01pm On Jul 11, 2022
izzou:


You are still using twitter to provide context for a disunited Christianity.

I'm sure you stay in the SW. Ask church members around if they would vote for the finest politician running alongside a Muslim.

Let's see how disunited Christianity really is
Twitter is proof that even within Living Faith, some people will not comply with Oyedepo's political directives.

So I don't need to ask church members. I lived in the SW when I was in Nigeria and if you are familiar with some of my posts you will know that I am quite conversant with Christianity and its tenets in Nigeria. Believe me.

Majority of the most popular men of God will support a PO candidacy under the guise of APC presenting muslim v Muslim candidates. However, when the voting is actually done and counted they too will realize how divided their churches are.

RCCG is dependent on what part of Nigeria or city you enter do you agree, why?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:01pm On Jul 11, 2022
Android17:
He is telling you what he wishes not what he can actually rationalize out. Just a half-assed check on other fora like Twitter and you will find Christians from Living Faith openly campaigning for BAT.

I am A SWesterner, I am a Christian, I have Christian family members and friends and I know what they are saying.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc(m): 2:03pm On Jul 11, 2022
DeadPresidents:


Obviously.

However, if we define this with set theory, i think it’s feasible to assume that 1 in 8 Christians can be represented at the intersection of RCCG, Winners and affiliates like Salvation ministries etc


Union not intersection.

RCCG U Winners U Affiliates not RCCG n Winners n Affiliates. grin

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 2:04pm On Jul 11, 2022
Agadinaagwuofe:


You can't use such because the majority of the electorates are not on twitter (isn't that what have always been said here) again many of those local electorates in the village once you played the religious card of Muslim/Muslim tickets will find it hard to rationalize.
It is not about a majority. The very fact that such people exist is proof nobody can make sweeping prognostications about how Christians will vote. That is my point.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 2:05pm On Jul 11, 2022
Android17:
Twitter is proof that even within Living Faith, some people will not comply with Oyedepo's political directives.

So I don't need to ask church members. I lived in the SW when I was in Nigeria and if you are familiar with some of my posts you will know that I am quite conversant with Christianity and its tenets in Nigeria. Believe me.

Majority of the most popular men of God will support a PO candidacy under the guise of APC presenting muslim v Muslim candidates. However, when the voting is actually done and counted they too will realize how divided their churches are.

RCCG is dependent on what part of Nigeria or city you enter do you agree, why?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc(m): 2:09pm On Jul 11, 2022
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 2:09pm On Jul 11, 2022
Android17:
Twitter is proof that even within Living Faith, some people will not comply with Oyedepo's political directives.

So I don't need to ask church members. I lived in the SW when I was in Nigeria and if you are familiar with some of my posts you will know that I am quite conversant with Christianity and its tenets in Nigeria. Believe me.

Majority of the most popular men of God will support a PO candidacy under the guise of APC presenting muslim v Muslim candidates. However, when the voting is actually done and counted they too will realize how divided their churches are.

RCCG is dependent on what part of Nigeria or city you enter do you agree, why?

There are over 1000 churches in Lagos. Is it only SWesterners that are there?

In a time when Christians have always perceived that they were under attack, that's the best time to bring a Muslim Muslim ticket?

Even Kwankwaso is hustling for a SW Bishop (Rumours). I'm sure he knows 1993 is not 2023

And I always suspected you don't live here. People who are here know that this is a hard pill to swallow

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 2:10pm On Jul 11, 2022
onyemaair:


The kind delusions wey full una head ehh. E choke. grin cheesy cheesy You should even be ashamed of yourself for trying to praise a politician that is a key part of a failed system that all Nigerians are suffering. If I ask you what makes Tinubu a "fine politician" , I'm sure you would start talking about his godfatherism and how he has "made men". To which I would now ask you, those men he made, what have they done to make nigeria better? Are those men not part of the criminal cabal that partake in the looting and impoverishing of your fellow Nigerians? In comparison to other politicians worldwide, how do you rate the ethical and leadership practices of these "made men"?

In short, how have you benefitted from the criminals that this man made?

The politician I am supporting right now has not taken a SINGLE PENNY from the state coffers since he left office. That alone is enough to set him out as an examplary politician. Meanwhile yours is a drug pusher who was arrested and wanted for illegal activities and you come here and tell me "finest politician". Onye ara.
I never told you I supported BAT. Although from my analysis, he will most likely win the coming elections. That is my prediction, what is your issue with that? Why the invective?

By the way, PO did not take a penny from state coffers? How did you confirm that? Because he said it?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:11pm On Jul 11, 2022
Android17:
I never told you I supported BAT. Although from my analysis, he will most likely win the coming elections. That is my prediction, what is your issue with that? Why the invective?

By the way, PO did not take a penny from state coffers? How did you confirm that? Because he said it?

Thats the way they do. They will curse the candidate and those who support him as part of their campaign strategy

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by onyemaair: 2:12pm On Jul 11, 2022
FOR CONTEXT;
This is a very influential YORUBA christian, preaching in a Northern state and telling the northern people there to vote Peter Obi.

Again, a Christian Yoruba man in a Northern state telling the christian northerners there to vote Peter Obi. Now factor in the whole catholic and Anglican and pentecostal churches doing this all over Nigeria consistently for the next 6 months and tell me impact will not be made. You really have to be blind and deaf to think that a Muslim Muslim ticket from the ruling party that has failed all Nigerians will not provoke a massive reaction.
I'm just seeing delusions up and down here. APC supporters are being forced to deny reality because of their disillusioned support for a failed party.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QywVgJEHmfc

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Agadinaagwuofe: 2:13pm On Jul 11, 2022
Android17:
Is the same Christian sect that saw nothing wrong with the PDP presenting another Northern Muslim 8 years after APC presented one?

How did you come to the assertion many Christian sect never saw nothing wrong with PDP Northern Muslim emergence? besides many Christians might not see anything wrong as long as a christian is represented but Muslim/Muslim is actually going to set off huge bad feelings among Christian populations. With the backdrops of insecurity and maiming by some islamic-sect group like Boko haram, ISWAP the issues will be magnify during campaign. I doubt APC will pull through with this.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by onyemaair: 2:15pm On Jul 11, 2022
raumdeuter:


Thats the way they do. They will curse the candidate and those who support him as part of their campaign strategy

But we have seen how you cursed Jonathan and other people. Are you not guilty of what you are accusing others of?

Somebody asked you earlier if you are recanting your accusations of Jonathan and you went silent. You poured scorn on Jonathan and accused him of being the creator of Boko Haram, now the government you supported have failed to tame it, are you going to apologize for insulting Jonathan?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 2:15pm On Jul 11, 2022
izzou:


There are over 1000 churches in Lagos. Is it only SWesterners that are there?

In a time when Christians have always perceived that they were under attack, that's the best time to bring a Muslim Muslim ticket?

Even Kwankwaso is hustling for a SW Bishop (Rumours). I'm sure he knows 1993 is not 2023

And I always suspected you don't live here. People who are here know that this is a hard pill to swallow
Do you know how many times I enter Nigeria in a year? Appealing to experience like all other fallacies are not effective ways of to pass your point across. Meanwhile, I have not made any analysis with regards to Christianity based on SW alone. But I thought we agreed that even when Buhari selected Ojukwu as his running mate he did not win a single SE state.

My analysis already factors SS & SE going against APC regardless of their Muslim-Muslim ticket. Where else will it matter, humor me?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:17pm On Jul 11, 2022
onyemaair:
FOR CONTEXT;
This is a very influential YORUBA christian, preaching in a Northern state and telling the northern people there to vote Peter Obi.

Again, a Christian Yoruba man in a Northern state telling the christian northerners there to vote Peter Obi. Now factor in the whole catholic and Anglican and pentecostal churches doing this all over Nigeria consistently for the next 6 months and tell me impact will not be made. You really have to be blind and deaf to think that a Muslim Muslim ticket from the ruling party that has failed all Nigerians will not provoke a massive reaction.
I'm just seeing delusions up and down here. APC supporters are being forced to deny reality because of their disillusioned support for a failed party.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QywVgJEHmfc

This is the same winners chapel in 2015 praying and campaigning for Jonathan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZqLorsAd2k

This is 2019 when the head of winners chapel was campaigning for Atiku

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Both candidates lost

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:18pm On Jul 11, 2022
onyemaair:


But we have seen how you cursed Jonathan and other people. Are you not guilty of what you are accusing others of?

Somebody asked you earlier if you are recanting your accusations of Jonathan and you went silent. You poured scorn on Jonathan and accused him of being the creator of Boko Haram, now the government you supported have failed to tame it, are you going to apologize for insulting Jonathan?

Have you shown where anyone cursed people supporting Jonathan? What is it with not insulting that you cannot just abide by? If he replies you in like manner and calls you similar name, What will you say?

You are free to insult Tinubu, He is the most insulted politician of the past 10yrs and that has not changed anything about him
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 2:18pm On Jul 11, 2022
Agadinaagwuofe:


How did you come to the assertion many Christian sect never saw nothing wrong with PDP Northern Muslim emergence? besides many Christians might not see anything wrong as long as a christian is represented but Muslim/Muslim is actually going to set off huge bad feelings among Christian populations. With the backdrops of insecurity and maiming by some islamic-sect group like Boko haram, ISWAP the issues will be magnify during campaign. I doubt APC will pull through with this.
Where are similar agitations and complaints to that effect @ PDP? You won't find anything because there is none.

APCs duty is to win an election not pander to a religious constituency that have hardly mattered and are always too divided to matter.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:19pm On Jul 11, 2022
Android17:
Do you know how many times I enter Nigeria in a year? Appealing to experience like all other fallacies are not effective ways of to pass your point across. Meanwhile, I have not made any analysis with regards to Christianity based on SW alone. But I thought we agreed that even when Buhari selected Ojukwu as his running mate he did not win a single SE state?

My analysis already factors SS & SE going against APC regardless of their Muslim-Muslim ticket. Where else will it matter, humor me?

Buhari never ran with Ojukwu, He ran with Okadigbo and another politician

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DeadPresidents: 2:21pm On Jul 11, 2022
Ibime:


Yes, all three combined maybe.

However let's not forget that Oyedepo was strongly against Buhari in 2015 and that changed nothing

My Uncle and his Patron who are both ranking RCCG Rivers pastors were pushing Buhari PR last time firmly because of Osibanjo. That made Oyedepo’s opposition mainly inconsequential.

This time around, they are on siddon look mode/veering towards Obidience.

Yesterday’s price is not today’s price grin

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by homesteady(m): 2:22pm On Jul 11, 2022
Kabiru Sokoto that was sentenced to life in prison for that Catholic Church bombing in Niger.

According to the masked witness who told the court that he personally took the statement of the accused person shortly after he was caught at the Borno State Government Lodge in Abuja on January 14, 2012, “Sokoto confessed that the sect believes that it is lawful to rob Christians and disposess them of their belongings.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2013/05/catholic-church-bombing-i-know-the-perpetrators-kabiru-sokoto/amp/

This is who wants to become VP?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis007(m): 2:24pm On Jul 11, 2022
izzou:


Taraba CAN just showed their support for APC and you didn't update us.

Why? cry

grin

Context bruh. The Post is simply to knockdown Bokoharam Tag on Shettima not basically an Endorsement from CAN.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by onyemaair: 2:24pm On Jul 11, 2022
Android17:
I never told you I supported BAT. Although from my analysis, he will most likely win the coming elections. That is my prediction, what is your issue with that? Why the invective?

By the way, PO did not take a penny from state coffers? How did you confirm that? Because he said it?

PETER OBI did not take one naira from Anambra state. It's an issue of public record. Meanwhile the drug pusher passed laws that ensures he gets over 10 billion naira worth of emoluments annually while still legally stealing the states taxes. That is corruption enshrined and yes, your own past posts shows that you support Tinubu fully.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 2:25pm On Jul 11, 2022
raumdeuter:


Buhari never ran with Ojukwu, He ran with Okadigbo and another politician
You are right. I meant to say that Buhari had a SE running mate and that Ojukwu had his own SE party but neither benefitted significantly from the SE for that. I also think Buhari and Ojukwu had some opposition rapport in 2003. Ojukwu Jnr re-echoed that in 2017 or so.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 2:27pm On Jul 11, 2022
onyemaair:


PETER OBI did not take one naira from Anambra state. It's an issue of public record. Meanwhile the drug pusher passed laws that ensures he gets over 10 billion naira worth of emoluments annually while still legally stealing the states taxes. That is corruption enshrined and yes, your own past posts shows that you support Tinubu fully.
Can you bring any of such posts?

Meanwhile, you say it is a matter of public record. Do you have a public record for the other allegations you are making?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by EmmanuelScott1(m): 2:29pm On Jul 11, 2022
homesteady:

Kabiru Sokoto that was sentenced to life in prison for that Catholic Church bombing in Niger.

According to the masked witness who told the court that he personally took the statement of the accused person shortly after he was caught at the Borno State Government Lodge in Abuja on January 14, 2012, “Sokoto confessed that the sect believes that it is lawful to rob Christians and disposess them of their belongings.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2013/05/catholic-church-bombing-i-know-the-perpetrators-kabiru-sokoto/amp/

This is who wants to become VP?

Itzlinda:



Please stop cherry picking these misleading headlines. No governor can possibly be a boko haram member.
Shettima is a good man.

grin grin He's a good man

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by onyemaair: 2:31pm On Jul 11, 2022
Android17:
Can you bring any of such posts?

Meanwhile, you say it is a matter of public record. Do you have a public record for the other allegations you are making?

If you have anything to counter the fact that Peter Obi has not taken anything from Anambra state coffers, I will rescind my support of him immediately! Until you do, shame on you for supporting a highly shady, dirty and super enabler of corruption in Nigeria's political institutions.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Oasis007(m): 2:31pm On Jul 11, 2022
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 2:32pm On Jul 11, 2022
onyemaair:


If you have anything to counter the fact that Peter Obi has not taken anything from Anambra state coffers, I will rescind my support of him immediately! Until you do, shame on you for supporting a highly shady, dirty and super enabler of corruption in Nigeria's political institutions.
So where is your own incontrovertible evidence for the shady politician you are referring to and where have I told you or anyone to support him or vote for him?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 2:33pm On Jul 11, 2022
izzou:


The way Christians will vote against this Muslim Muslim ticket in the SW, even you Egbon would be shocked.


Shey we should bet another one?

Apart from Lagos, all other states in the SW, APC will win with at least 100k votes in each state?

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