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Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Emusan(m): 1:10pm On Jul 10, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: No where the word "ALL OTHERS" appear in any of the cited verses Prov 8:22, John 1:1, Col 1:15-16, Prov 8:30. So where did you see that? 2 Likes |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Maynman: 1:11pm On Jul 10, 2022 |
Emusan: Angels are called ma’’lak in hebrew and they are the least divine being
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Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Emusan(m): 1:11pm On Jul 10, 2022 |
Maynman: I know that sir! |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by NNTR: 1:14pm On Jul 10, 2022 |
Deborah98:Hebrews 2:9 ' 6But one has [solemnly] testified somewhere [in Scripture], saying, “What is man, that you are mindful of him, or the son of man, that you graciously care for him? 7“You have made him for a little while lower [in status] than the angels; you have crowned him with glory and honor, and set him over the works of your hands; 8You have put all things in subjection under his feet [confirming his supremacy].” 9But we do see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels for a little while [by taking on the limitations of humanity], crowned with glory and honor because of His suffering of death, so that by the grace of God [extended to sinners] He might experience death for [the sins of] everyone.' Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Mikee19(m): 7:42am On Jul 11, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: You know, this sounds very familiar. Maybe because this is exactly what JW do, relying on the governing body to tell them what to believe, not God's word itself. You can actually call out ppl for doing what you yourself admit to doing? Nice... 3 Likes |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:20pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Mikee19: By their FRUITS you will know them! Matthew 7:16 The product of each religion will speak for those overseeing them! Luke 7:35 compare to Matthew 7:17-18 1 Like |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Mikee19(m): 3:12pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Ain't this lovely! When it is about others, they must look to the word itself and not what their sect teaches, but when it's your own turn, no problem, it no longer applies, you must look at fruit leaving that one alone. You're above and beyond what your require of others. Beautiful! 1 Like |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by houseofwind1(m): 3:49pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
I think the reason you're saying this is bc you don't understand simple truth or grammar. I do not say this to demean you in anyways and so hope ur heart can get what I'm about to say. I think the predominant reason why you don't know what you're talking about is bc you read the bible out of context and do not read to understand. You just read to support what they already right you. If you read the verse in Hebrews, and truly understand English language, you'll see that it says Jesus is an angel. In fact it's says "thou art exalted above thy fellows" about Jesus. What's the meaning of fellows and who are these fellows? Fellows mean equals and these equals are angels. Now you keep stating it that Michael is not Jesus yet do not even know what Michael means. Michael means the one like God and arch means beginning or sovereign. So when they said archangel Michael, it means the "beginning/sovereign one like God" who is the beginning and like God? Only Christ is the beginning and is like God. He's the man testified in the beginning to be the image and likeness of God and also the sovereign Lord himself. Now, you and ur kinds are talking about many arch angels and adding thing to the bible by urself; of which things you bring from other religions into the gospel. These things are all lies. There just two arch angels; Jesus and Satan, and Jesus and his angels defeated Satan and his angels so that light destroys darkness. Lastly I'll advice you to stop reading outside the bible and stop teaching outside the bible. It's dangerous for your soul. Anyways may grave to learn come to you and may God break ur heart and give you a heart of flesh that can throw away doctrines of men and focus on his word. Stay blessed Read Isaiah 63:9 Jokerman: |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by delkuf(m): 3:59pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
AntiChristian:Stop this nonsense you are trying. If you don't believe don't ridicule it. |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Jokerman(m): 4:42pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
houseofwind1: My brother.... Michael is not the only Archangel... Gabriel is an Archangel.... Lucifer was a Cherub.... now angels are classed... Messengers Warriors Thrones Arch messenger- Gabriel Arch Warrior- Michael Arch Cherub- Lucifer (before the fall) The Son of God, is not the same as Archangel Michael... |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by DeOTR: 5:00pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Jokerman:Michael is the one and only Archangel. The Bible always says The Archangel, not Archangels. 1 Like |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:10pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Mikee19: I aren't denying that it's whatever the GB teaches that all members of Watchtower must dance to. Remember that it's whatever Christ teaches that all Christians must dance to and Jesus himself said his Apostles are serving as branches so nobody can connect to Jesus without his Apostles! John 15:1-6 We believe that the GB serves as our own Apostles today as they interprets what their first century brothers penned down. So whether they're right or wrong nobody can know that's why Jesus said: The product of each religion will prove whether those overseeing it are working with God's Holy Spirit. Matthew 7:18 So instead of arguing blindly over what you and i read in the Bible why not concentrate on which group is producing the fruitage of FAITH? Remember it's the same kind of people throughout the world that each religion is teaching so watch out for the product of each religion. That's what Jesus Christ said, if truly you believe in his word! 3 Likes |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Mikee19(m): 6:31pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
At least you're honest MaxInDHouse: |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:17pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Mikee19:So can you also be honest by telling me who are those that taught you what you think you believe today? Or are you ashame of your teachers? Perhaps you can't point to anything worthwhile they've been doing relating to the Good News of God's Kingdom like the GB of JWs have performed excellently throughout the earth! 2 Likes |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Janosky: 7:47pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:The guy na anywhere Belle face, Atheist claim Jesus is fiction, to him na independent thinking. He joins Trinitarians to celebrate Christmas (that Atheists claim should never be, since Jesus they say,is fiction of Rome), the same guy go shout "merry Xmas", to him na independent thinking 1 Like
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Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Janosky: 8:03pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Jokerman:John 7:16, Jesus Christ confirm he is aggelous (Greek32:Angel/Messenger screenshots). Oga ,pls answer 4 questions.. Genesis 3:15 & Revelation 12:7-9,who is the serpent? Genesis 3:15, Revelation 12:7-9 & 1 John 3:8, who defeats the serpent? Matthew 25:31,2 Thess1:8-9, is Jesus leading other angels to victory as Archangel Michael lead other angels @ Daniel 12:1? Before the advent of the KJV , did your Trinity mentors confirm Jesus is Archangel Michael? Why do you call your Bible's truth, the words of Jesus, "a school of thought"? So disrespectful. Abeg ,go and learn !
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Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Emusan(m): 8:08pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Janosky: So John 7:16 says Jesus is an Angel Oga ,pls answer 4 questions.. Las las, no where the Bible explicitly says Jesus is an Angel Michael, that's just Watchtower delusion. Why do you call your Bible's truth, the words of Jesus, "a school of thought"? You have used the same phrase school of thought on this forum. Hypocrite! So you disrespect too Have you learn finished? |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Janosky: 8:35pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Jokerman: Daniel 12:1 & Daniel 10:13, your Trinity mentors confirm Jesus Christ is archangel Michael since 1599 (look up the screenshot of Daniel 12:1) long before the advent of the KJV. They brought the KJV to suppress Geneva Bible,pls go & find out.The history is not hidden. Jokerman:Yes. Jokerman:Hebrew language (spoken by Jesus) bene Elohim meaning Angel,son of God. Go find out. Oga, is Jesus Christ bene Elohim? Capital YES ! Jokerman:Jesus Christ spoke Hebrew and Greek. In Hebrew Jesus is bene Elohim (Angel,son of God), John 1:49. In Greek, Jesus Christ is aggelous (Angel, Messenger),John 7:16. Oga, your bible says your claim is FALSE. No vex. Your Bible also confirm Jesus have greater authority than other angels he leads, Matt25:31, 1 Thess4:16,2 Thess1:8-9, Rev 12:7-9. Dan 12:1. Jokerman:Did 1 Peter 3: 21-22 Matt25:31 & 1 Thess4:16 confirm Jesus leadership and authority over other bene Elohim (angels)? Nothing unusual about that. |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Janosky: 8:43pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Emusan:Emusan study the screenshots of John 7:16 & Greek aggelous (Angel) . Jesus told them: 'My message is NOT my own. It comes from God who sent me" Your Trinity mentors confirm what your Bible already PROVEN. Emusan LIENUS continue in your folly OR RECEIVE SENSE.
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Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Emusan(m): 8:59pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Janosky: You keep displaying your ignoramus the more! God sent Moses to pharaoh that means Moses is an Angel Your Trinity mentors confirm what your Bible already PROVEN. Is it today you have been screenshoting? The same Geneva Bible says Jesus is God. Do you take it? Hypocrite, you can cherry pick the part that suits you, you're not the first who'll do that, your father the Devil started it |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Janosky: 9:23pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Emusan:Oga, continue in your folly. Greek 32 aggelous (screenshot) your Trinity mentors are teaching you Angel mean Messenger (human or a spirit entity ),someone sent by God with a message to deliver. Was Moses, Jesus sent by God? Isaiah 6:8 in Geneva Bible, did God send himself at John 3:16? Your false claim is NOT in Geneva Bible. I refuse to assume responsibility for your FOOLISHNESS,Mr LIENUS.
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Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Janosky: 9:28pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Jokerman:Archangel no get plural. Only Jesus Christ leads other angels, e dey your bible , Matthew 25:31 & 2 Thess1:8-9. I asked you 4 questions, you no fit answer. Y? |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Emusan(m): 9:32pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Janosky: We know who is living in his folly here Greek 32 aggelous (screenshot) your Trinity mentors are teaching you Angel mean Messenger (human or a spirit entity ),someone sent by God with a message to deliver. That's what I'm saying, that means Moses is an Angel since he was sent by God. John the Baptist is an Angel since he too was sent by God Your John 7:16 lie no hold water again. That's how the deluded JWs will be jumping from different verse to another without making sense. Isaiah 6:8 in Geneva Bible, did God send himself at John 3:16? God sent His Son! Geneva Bible is now your favorite Bible Hypocrite I refuse to assume responsibility for your FOOLISHNESS,Mr LIENUS. I understand you completely Mr Gebbrish typer the great JaNosenses. Provide where Bible explicitly says Jesus is angel Micheal, is that too hard for you Watchtower brainwashed? |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Janosky: 9:35pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:Brother Max, well done. The exposure JWs have given them on this thread will help them realize they go to church to warm up the bench and dance away precious time for Bible study. 1 Like |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Emusan(m): 9:39pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Janosky: In his last paragraph, he said "Moses was God to Pharaoh" Do you believe Jesus was God to JWs? |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Janosky: 9:42pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Emusan:Oga, continue in your folly. Or go argue with your Trinity mentors who confirm Jesus Christ is archangel Michael. The same ghost is leading you and them.
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Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Emusan(m): 9:50pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Janosky: But the same Michael is ONE of THE CHIEF princes" What's the difference between Arc and Chief? |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Emusan(m): 9:52pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Janosky: See painment So Geneva Bible is the Trinity mentors and not Catholic again that's wonderful! At least you can see that John 7:16 didn't sell this time |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:38pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Emusan: Any Pharaoh back then was God over all those in his kingdom according to Egyptian Culture, he can send anyone to death and also free anyone sentenced to death! Genesis 40:21-22 So when JEHOVAH said he made Moses God to Pharaoh {Exodus 7:1} it simply means Pharaoh will always seek Moses's face for favour over his land! That's exactly what Jesus became when he walked the earth as all the gods (demons) on the planet take orders from Jesus, but Jesus WAS! WAS!! WAS!!! God like Moses not to be worshiped by anyone rather he himself told us who we should direct our worship to! John 20:17 So Jesus is not our God rather he served as God at a point in time PAST just the same way Moses served as God that's why John 1:1 used the PAST tense WAS God not IS God! 1 Like |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Janosky: 11:32pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Emusan:John 7:16,Everyone sent is aggelous,(angel, messenger, envoy). Your Trinity mentors understands the screenshots of John 7:16 & Greek aggelous. Emusan Dullard,shame on you.
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Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Janosky: 11:34pm On Jul 11, 2022 |
Emusan:Emusan why? Is archbishop a Bishop? Is archbishop the Head,Boss of other Bishops? Mumu 3 deities worshippers |
Re: The Son Is Superior To Angels by Mikee19(m): 12:46am On Jul 12, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: You don't get the folly of this sort of thinking. If can't help you maybe I'll help someone else... MaxInDHouse: So much error contained in very little sentences! 1) The apostles were inspired to carry out their duties of teaching scripture, your GB are not. Not even close. Absolutely no basis for comparison whatsoever! 2) The apostles gave scripture! Your GB CANNOT give scripture, but only interpretation. If e sure for them, if they're really comparable to the apostles, let them try it too. They cannot, yet you say you believe (with no basis) that they serve as your apostles today, when they are in no class and are no match for the actual apostles! See anybody can give wrong interpretation! Therefore you're right in admitting that by this stance you DO NOT know whether they're right or wrong: MaxInDHouse: Isn't this grand! But lemme demonstrate your two-faced, double-tongued hypocritical way of thinking: |
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