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Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by achimendy(m): 3:23pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
krissconnect: Don't think otherwise, sometimes is not easy for them there too. They might be saying that for your own good,and you just have to understand. I have a friend who once traveled out one time, after some few months he started asking us for financial help, that he doesn't have anything to help himself. Sometimes is not that rossy out there. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by Fiscus105(m): 3:25pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Navalsadiq: .......get a good we'll paying job, while u are still scholling? I salute ur optimism ! |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by casualobserver: 3:26pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
AntiTerrorist: What exactly do you mean by encourage? Let me explain it to you as someone who has a British passport has live abroad for many years but returned home. The truth is life over there is a sort of bondage for someone with a Nigerian mindset. You are constantly working to pay bills , no matter how much you earn your expenses rise such that you are a slave to your job, the system entraps you in ways I can’t describe here for sake of brevity, unless you are amongst the few who can establish a means of income in the multiples of hundreds of thousands be it dollars be it pounds. Otherwise yes you will eat well and enjoy certain basics that may not be available in Nigeria for most Nigerians but there are many negative intangibles especially for someone raised in Nigeria. Unless you are a high paying job, $100-200k + life is not a bed of roses. Even at that level you are struggling but can afford things to mitigate the struggles like holidays back home or other destinations. In theory you will be better off than in Nigeria initially but life is such that once you overcome the basic sufferings back in Nigeria, the intangible negatives start to matter. I am back in Nigeria and I wouldn’t go back. I am lucky I can travel out when I am tired of Nigeria but I will never again live abroad….unless I am forced to. With all the problems of Nigeria, there is no place like home. There is a sense of freedom and self worth in Nigeria you have that you lose when you go abroad, that’s one of the intangibles I talk about. No matter what you will always be a nobody abroad….that’s another!!! Would I encourage anyone to move abroad. It’s a hard question because you will pay a huge psychological price for moving abroad, one you will not understand until you get there and one I can never explain to you until you have experienced it. What I would say is, if you want to go abroad, have a mission and come back with if 5 years!!! I won’t encourage or discourage anyone!!! I wouldn’t actively encourage anyone because I don’t want to be the one responsible for selling you a dream that will not match your reality!!!! 16 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by Realiskit(m): 3:27pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
. It is quite unfortunate that you felt this way but there is more to it. Your friends may not be necessarily telling you lies or interested in discouraging you. Abroad is hard and I am speaking from experience. Which country I reside isn't important because it is the same everywhere. For more information, you could reach out to me via email . The point I want to pass across is that you should not rush into conclusions. I was once in your shoes until I traveled. krissconnect: |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by jesmond3945: 3:27pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
casualobserver:I am currenty helping 2 people to migrate. I gave 2 nigerian jobs in Uk. The job I am doing, a Nigerian linked me up. There are threads in travel section that literally helped people who want to migrate. Look at the indian community in abroad. 11 people live in one house. I told my wife to accomodate one family to split bills she refused. Nigerian community in abroad is the worst ever. Go to phrankleen youtube channel and read more. 4 Likes |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by dayleke: 3:28pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Fiscus105: That's exactly what the argument is all about that the OP does not understand. |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by jesmond3945: 3:28pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
na2016:yes i agree. However, if you want to japa please go ahead. Your interest matters. |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by saintruky(m): 3:29pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Abeg can i PM u? krissconnect: |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by luminouz(m): 3:29pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
ednut1:I think I should make you my Japa mentor!!! |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by kiddkash(m): 3:30pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
krissconnect:the person is trying to make aa point, that imagine that you live in Lagos, and look at the shitty reply he is getting from you. and you wonder why none of them want you to come to them. like how Warri people mess up in the country I stay saying Warri no dey carry last. acting like touts, hooligans. drawing unnecessary attention to themselves, shutting down busy street because of some small $. then the local residents will be asking is that how Nigerians behave. there by creating enmity between Nigerians and themselves 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by SIRTee15: 3:31pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Ukwunu: Which business...u talk as if it's easy. He will waste his money on some venture and return to square zero. Business in Nigeria is not for the faint heart at all. It's better he use the money to runs a masters program in uk and pick up from there. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by jesmond3945: 3:31pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
AnthonyAk:but the indian community are helping each other even with hardship. Nigerian community is the worst, is all about competition. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by nony43(m): 3:31pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
ednut1: Thank you for saving me the stress to type. |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by AnthonyAk(m): 3:32pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Jaqenhghar: It's not impossible , i'll tell you main problem with Nigerians that come here. In fact it applies to all African immigrants. If 10 students come from Africa maybe only 1 or 2 will really make it and settle down. The other nine will most likely drop out of school within the first couple years. 2 out of the 9 drop outs will end up in Nigeria because of family or financial reasons. 1 will get deported. The rest will start families with only waec The biggest factor is who you hang out with. If you hang out with people that goto university and finish , you will also finish. The moment you begin to hang with people that are outside of campus you begin to lose your way. A good friend of mine was always nice and calm, going to church and doing his thing. In his final year he really got into working out and became really muscular. He joined the rowing team in school , made new friends , got a girlfriend and moved off campus. In that same final year, he stopped going to his classes , he lost his dad and ended up back in Nigeria. What's sad is before he came to Canada he was living in Dubai with his family. Till date he hasen't been able to come back to finish his schooling, this was almost 10 years ago. When i think about it it makes mee feel some how because i had many chances , i changed school 3 times from engineering to computer information systems and finally finished after 8 years. For many they only had one chance before life will strike. 6 Likes |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by nony43(m): 3:32pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Raregem9000: Your cousin can’t invite you. |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by MT: 3:32pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Memeni: Do you realize that some people abroad are honestly envying and eyeing your situation in Nigeria? They can't just say it and sadly, you assume they are even better than you 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by KIDfurniture(m): 3:32pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
They don’t want you to make it krissconnect: |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by kiddkash(m): 3:34pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
okeysoninv:you have a myopic view on life 1 Like |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by Fiscus105(m): 3:34pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
dayleke:. Some relocate legally but still not be able to work, (studying, visiting, tourism, medical etc) Op thinks abroad na naija, that anything goes. If u re not Doctor or Nurse, it takes grace of God to give you legal visa to work thre. That bank manager might left Nigeria courtesy of any of visa application I listed above, hence difficult in finding job. A woman bank manager now working as a cleaner, separate with husband and children? I can never do that 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by somehow: 3:35pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
okeysoninv: I'm assuming you can read with comprehension Now go back to my first post, digest it for better understanding. |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by AnthonyAk(m): 3:36pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
jesmond3945: They have been in Canada for several generations, those things really matter. Compared to a fresh immigrant 10 years in still trying to find his feet. The Nigerian community will help you here no doubt but it will have to be family and even then e get as e be. It also depends on the location, here in Vancouver housing is very expensive, so there is no room for housing someone long term. Especially when 3 or more adult will potentially be sharing a toilet and bathroom. My parents hate it here for that one reason lol 1 Like |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by casualobserver: 3:37pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
jesmond3945: Do you have legitimate papers? Are the people you are bringing to the Uk legitimate workers? I am a British citizen, I lived in the Uk for more than 10 years I know the system. The question was whether I would encourage someone to move abroad. I wouldn’t because it is trading one form of suffering for a life of certain perperpual slavery for most who will migrate!!! Particularly if they don’t have papers. Like I said, I was born in The Uk I have a British passport, I am well educated I came home. Yes I miss some of the basics but I don’t regret it. I will never live abroad!!! I will never actively encourage anyone either except your circumstances are so dire but I will also warn you that once you acquire the basics, you will be miserable…..it is not a bed of roses!!’ 6 Likes |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by airsaylongcome: 3:38pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
okeysoninv: You also cannot pick $1 abroad. Does that make $1 big money? Rent for a decent place abroad is like $1k5 to $2k. You dey convert am to Naira na why you dey see am as big money. A road sweeper abroad is poor 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by okeysoninv: 3:38pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
somehow:forget it, enter proper country in West not all those Arab countries..if you don't make in West then you can never make it Nigeria . |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by dayleke: 3:38pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Fiscus105: You are absolutely right. I concur. |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by MT: 3:40pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
casualobserver: You have said it all. Please Op , read this person's narrative. He nailed it!! 1 Like |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by okeysoninv: 3:41pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
airsaylongcome:people are sharing apartment, so u can as well share. you mustn't live in city center there are suburb . if earn £2k per month and by six months you haven't save up to buy land in Nigeria then something is wrong with you. 5 Likes |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by Tycyborg(m): 3:42pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
GeneralPula: Thanks for this... I remember I use to listen to people saying ghana is better than Nigeria or benin republic or other african country... I decided to first go to ghana left my job to start a life there since it's better only for me to meet reality... I came down to benin republic no jobs nothing even people there are looking at me as a big man there whereas I am suppose to look up to them for jobs and other things... They were even asking me if they can follow me to Nigeria to start a life... I was shocked... I left and went to cameroon and same thing... Later I can back to nigeria with almost nothing... I started over again and haven gotten my foot like before I left... I faced hell in other countries... Eversince then I don't listen to people saying I want to travel out or nigeria Is worse than other country... When I came back finally I had to lie that I went outside Nigeria to work and I was scammed. I learned my lesson... So same happens to people all over the country... Many will regret few will be lucky to make it and few means very few... Since then if anyone is talking about travelling out to make it... All I tell them is go and see for yourself cos people don't like truth... It will only take you grace and huge luck to make it except you are into dirty business... Let the man be and have a taste of it who knows he might be among the few and there is higher possiblity that he will lament... People outside the country lies about the flamboyant lifestyle and movies is all bull sh*t... Most things are lies and most stories about Nigerians saying they make billions after travelling out are either into dirty business or just lying cos or disgrace they might face... I learned my lessons and let him learn too 6 Likes |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by damzy88: 3:42pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
Greatzeus:True |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by luminouz(m): 3:42pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
humberjade:Now it's your turn to help me. That's exactly what I heard from reading your post. |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by SIRTee15: 3:43pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
casualobserver: Don't discourage those who want to go with your cynical negative comments. U talk as if 100k is easy to earn anywhere in the world. How many people even boast of that as salary in Nigeria. Ironically u are more likely to earn 100k per year woing abroad than in nigeria. I encourage those who wants to leave to do so albeit legally. The only ones I will advice to exercise caution is if u earning more than a million per month OR more than 500k in a well established institution OR u are involved in graft within govt agency. There are some things u won't discover about Nigeria itself until u travel out. A friend of mine is trying to develop a food delivery app for Nigerian food sellers. He got that insight while working on similar app in uk. He's presently trying to attract funding for his app. There's nothing worth staying in Nigeria to build hope. U can build your build your hope and dream everywhere. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do African Brothers Abroad Discourage Others From Moving Abroad Too? by Sassy256(f): 3:45pm On Jul 15, 2022 |
okeysoninv:Even if they're finding it difficult there coming back most likely isn't an option because most of them sold all they had to go there so they have to endure at all cost, not because they're enjoying it too much. 2 Likes |
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