Pocohantas, what do you have to say?

ednut1:
poverty After secondary school i moved to the uk to join my mum. You don enter plane before Lol

Lol. Bc you have inferiority complex and think getting a Canadian pr is your biggest achievement you come here to disgrace yourself. I have always told you that only a child who lives in his father's fenced compound thinks his father owns the largest house. You have inferiority complex. I don't know you and you don't know me, that is why I just laugh when type like a teenager who's having some fantasy about life. You're a nobody where I am that one you should know for sure. You're been bursted left, right and center and you keep making a fool of yourself here. You have poverty of the mind, soul, spirit and body. Lol
You may even be a dirty scammer trying to lure people to scam them. Fvck off, poor boy

Opolopoopolonio:
Nigerians like to learn from their own experience and always think they are smarter than their hosts only to have their folly laid bare in a short while.

Why Nigerians Hardly Return Home


For those asking them to come back home, just know that it's one of the more difficult things to do.

1. They are afraid of being mocked by people here who hitherto thought highly of them

2. They don't know where to start from. Some sold all their properties when they were leaving.

3. They have started getting used to their mediocre average lives over there. Adjusting back to the Nigerian system is a nightmare.

4. Spouses are divided on the decision. Most times the woman wants to stay back. If care is not taken, the home will break.

Etc etc

So stop telling them to come back home.

Number 4 is a huge one. African women love abroad. Many Western nations are female oriented. Women generally arn't as concerned or motivated by pride issues as men, especially Nigeria men, so African women are able to tolerate what would be for men soul destroying humiliation. African women love the welfare system. They would have no qualms sitting at home jobless receiving welfare benefits such as child allowances. Actually they would happily stay at home shitting out babies after calculating how many babies would earn them the welfare benefit equivalent of top salary. If they are employed, they can tolerate low wages or professions lower than they are qualified for. They are impervious to the injustices of taking orders from individuals, usually whites, much younger and less qualified than them.

For reasons mentioned above and more, wives never want to return to Nigeria permanently. Subsequently Nigeria men are liable to stay put abroad for the sake of their nuclear families against thire return home preferences.

HRHQueenPhil:
So what do u then advise or were shld we move to that will be worth it

Remain here, every thing will be alright. Just vote peter obi come 2023.period.

U day Nigeria u day complain u go Canada u still day complain again...

Tunjibalogun:
But they will never tell you . Making it look like Canada is heaven lol.
That's Nigerians for you
I know a consultant Hematologist (medical doctor) who couldn't cope with the cost of living in Canada, infact he couldn't practice his profession and he became frustrated. He left but his wife refused leaving, so they divorced. The man remarried after he came back to Nigeria and he's really doing so great and happy.

No matter how bad Canada is, it is still better than Nigeria.

Aside from going their to hustle, security is also important.

Tunjibalogun:
But they will never tell you . Making it look like Canada is heaven lol.
That's Nigerians for you
I know a consultant Hematologist (medical doctor) who couldn't cope with the cost of living in Canada, infact he couldn't practice his profession and he became frustrated. He left but his wife refused leaving, so they divorced. The man remarried after he came back to Nigeria and he's really doing so great and happy.

There are thousands of Nigerian Doctors that have succeeded and are succeeding in Canada. I shake my head for you. Allow Op dey deceive you.

You said Canada was built not to make people rich, then I asked what Nigeria was built to do for people?

I asked you a simple question; is Nigeria set up to make people rich or miserable?

Poor man from the poverty capital of the world shouldn't be comparing countries that are like "paradise" compare to your shithole country.

Stop writing unnecessary meaningless long essay, just answer a straight answer.

franchasofficia:
Young man listen, you have inferiority complex. The op never compared Nigeria with Canada. She was comparing Canada with other developed countries and telling Nigerians why they should consider other developed countries first before Canada.


You are too small to argue with me lol. I can pay your Salary in Canada, I am paying people like you so when I talk you listen and learn okay?


I have been to some countries but haven't been to US or Canada, and I will be visiting US on a business trip soon. I have passed the age and period of jumping around as immigrant cos I am already an established man, so I can only visit countries I want for business and maybe for family vacations only not to go there and live and work lol.


The only issue i have with Nigeria is insecurity. Making money in Nigeria is very easy if you have good startup capital, sound business wisdom, street knowledge and zeal to succeed. But for beginners it is difficult without engaging in crime and nobody is comparing Nigeria with Canada because Nigeria as it is currently under Buhari and APC is worst than any other country on earth so how can we compare it with Canada?

Canada is a developed nation no doubt. It is a lovely country but it is not designed to make people rich because it is not a capitalist nation.


Canada is built by different European nations with different ideologies. The French with their communist ideology which doesn't support citizens becoming rich unlike US a capitalist country designed to create billionaires.


There was a time I was considering traveling to Canada strictly to import used cars, but the samples a friend there got for me discouraged me cos Canada have salty water which makes their cars rust easily making it difficult to sell in Nigeria, that was some years back when I was into tokunbo car sales.


Canada have nothing to offer to ambitious people who wants to become rich and possibly billionaires and that's why I don't like Canada, and coupled with the cold cos I am allergic to cold.


So get your facts correctly, we aren't saying Nigeria is better than Canada, but Canada is below many other developed countries and Nigerians should stop painting Canada as paradise when its only for average people to break family or generational poverty

H2ho:
Pocohantas, what do you have to say?

I never leave Naija before. I am reading through the thread though. She has her point and the opposers have theirs too. I think Nigerians should do away with the mentality that they will start packing money once they reach the abroad. This is the first heartbreak majority face abroad.

Sincerely, I don’t have many friends in Canada. Just a distant family friend that relocated about 4 years ago. Majority of my close friends and colleagues relocated to the UK. Some to the US. I don’t know anything about living in Canada from the eyes of anyone.

ednut1:
Although the op na my friend i will tackle her.

Omo your friend ugly gan o

KelvinCoaster:

Most southern Nigerians derive joy in cursing and blaming their mother land...Hardly you hear a Northerner curse Nigeria.

I believe we from the south are yet to recover from the pre-civil war and post-civil war trauma. We still have this wrong mentality that "Nigeria is not our own".The Northerners see "Nigeria as their own",that is why even in hardship they hardly curse Nigeria.

To answer your question straight: Those cursing their Father-land/Mother-land are just STUPID!!!

^^^
Ok...

I'm not sure what a "curses by region" classification would do for this discussion but it does add an interesting angle to it...

My point is that it would be far more productive to find out why some Nigerians are so angry at the country of their birth. There's got to be a reason (or two hundred) for the anger. To simply dismiss them as stupid is an error.

Besides...there are many Nigerians who have never (publicly) cursed the country of their birth. And yet they make their displeasure known in real, concrete ways - ways far more damaging than a few curse words.

Angry Nigerians (and their curses!) are not the problem.

Tunjibalogun:

Go to jos. Same way the white men crave for sunlight

Does it snow in jos?

MT:


Canadians can only stay 182 days on US soil within one year

https://www.legalline.ca/legal-answers/how-long-can-a-canadian-remain-in-the-usa/

Which validates my point

Europeans cannot stay 180 days at a stretch without a visa

SenatePresdo:


No matter how bad Canada is, it is still better than Nigeria.

Aside from going their to hustle, security is also important.

True talk

HRHQueenPhil:
So what do u then advise or were shld we move to that will be worth it

USofA, The Island, Etc

The whole content of this article is showing that Nigerians have a mentality that if they move abroad it is too be rich, if that is your only goal then stay in Nigeria and find your wealth. You are going to Canada with the mindset of a Nigerian, open your mind and find the good in your location, engage in their culture, appreciate good healthcare, schools, a good standard of living. Stop chasing the fake social media lifestyle and look for a good standard of living and a safe place to raise your family. Or if you want to stay rigid and only live life like a Nigerian, then stay in Naija. That is the white mans land, you should be adopting their culture not trying to force your own into there’s.
Simple truth na.

NEWSCENTER:
You said Canada was built not to make people rich, then I asked what Nigeria was built to do for people?

I asked you a simple question; is Nigeria set up to make people rich or miserable?

Poor man from the poverty capital of the world shouldn't be comparing countries that are like "paradise" compare to your shithole country.

Stop writing unnecessary meaningless long essay, just answer a straight answer.

Young man you have a serious case of inferiority complex. I know Nigeria really made your life miserable, its unfortunate but please the original poster wasn't comparing Nigeria with Canada. This is why most of you fail exams.


You have poor comprehension knowledge.


Focus on the topic which is advising Nigerians planning to leave Nigeria as immigrants to stop focusing only on Canada thinking Canada is the best, that they should consider other far better developed countries instead of wasting their time, effort and resources to immigrate to Canada.


The op is completely right with her points.


We aren't talking about Nigeria here cos Nigeria as it is now is not even a country to start with and that's why we are working hard to change the narrative come 2023 via the election.



Nobody is comparing Nigeria to Canada okay?



I know you want your girlfriends and female crushes in Nigeria to see Canada as paradise so that when you tell them you live in Canada they will off their pant easily for you thinking you are rich not knowing that you are just a middleclass or struggling to join the middleclass self lol, pele the op is spoiling show for u and other Canada based guys, maybe u can start telling them u live in US since na the same plus 1 dialing code

apolonius:


I just wanted to say the op is stupid and move on. But your wise comment will make me drop a sentence of two to puncture the OP’s generalizations.

The op is leaning on their narrow experience and limitations to make generalizations. I lived in the UK for many years-studied to the highest levels before moving to Canada. Canada is a million miles apart.

People talk about the US without talking about the costs of healthcare, childcare and all.

I bought a home around Toronto within 2 years of moving to Canada. I lived in a box room in the UK for 11 years!

I am a prime professional who practiced in firms before setting up mine.

I know bankers who left Naija towards the end of last year who are holding down 2-3 jobs (enabled by the pandemic’s remote work) and making 20-30k monthly. I mean these are close friends.

While the traditional professions have rigid licensing processes in every country to test for determination, it is normal. When we went to Nigeria for the law school, even professors of law and accomplished lawyers from the US, UK, Canada et al, had to do Bar 1 with us. They did and some are accomplished politicians and lawyers in Nigeria today.

I know 2 SANs who did their accreditation and bar exams, and are now doing Articling in Toronto. It’s normal.

Yes, doctors like lawyers and all do same too. You either want it enough to soldier through or you stay in your comfort zone. If you push through, the rewards are huge. I have many lawyer colleagues making over $130k and some are immigration panel members (judges) within 2-3 years. I know 2 very close Nigerian professors of law in Canadian universities , they came in as students, who make over $300k.

Canada is today’s heaven. Lazy and unfocused people will promote harsh relativism as the general experience. But it’s crap!

If you come to Canada legally and have your PR, you can settle in 1-2 years and do great. Of course, lawyers and doctors may face a slower transition, but it’s worth it.

Bankers, IT professionals, business analysts among others should get great jobs within 2-4 months, if properly guided, and earn between $70-120k. I have seen tens of close friends go through it and doing great!

As per loneliness, it’s demand and supply. More black/Naija women who are single crowd the Naija community populated by men who largely have families before leaving Nigeria. Yes, professional Naija men are almost always married few years after university. If they use potential husbands to play boyfriend koso, who they go blame? Naija ladies can go back home and find their kind. It’s easier than deluding themselves that they will find Oyibo men here. Those who go home to look for husbands and lovers do find!

Anyway, I rest my purposeful bile at the nonsense morons share here about Canada and politics. Naija youths should get properly enlightened!

Boss, i fit send u a Gmail message

Tunjibalogun:

Give a little hint, then I will concur if that is him. No mention full details oo

Never mind. I will do my own private investigation. If he is who I think it is, I will respect his privacy. It all makes sense now.

You said Canada was built not to make people rich, then I asked what Nigeria was built to do for people?

I asked you a simple question; is Nigeria set up to make people rich or miserable?

Poor man from the poverty capital of the world shouldn't be comparing countries that are like "paradise" compare to your shithole country.

Stop writing unnecessary meaningless long essay, just answer a straight answer.

franchasofficia:
Young man you have a serious case of inferiority complex. I know Nigeria really made your life miserable, its unfortunate but please the original poster wasn't comparing Nigeria with Canada. This is why most of you fail exams.


You have poor comprehension knowledge.


Focus on the topic which is advising Nigerians planning to leave Nigeria as immigrants to stop focusing only on Canada thinking Canada is the best, that they should consider other far better developed countries instead of wasting their time, effort and resources to immigrate to Canada.


The op is completely right with her points.


We aren't talking about Nigeria here cos Nigeria as it is now is not even a country to start with and that's why we are working hard to change the narrative come 2023 via the election.



Nobody is comparing Nigeria to Canada okay?



I know you want your girlfriends and female crushes in Nigeria to see Canada as paradise so that when you tell them you live in Canada they will off their pant easily for you thinking you are rich not knowing that you are just a middleclass or struggling to join the middleclass self lol, pele the op is spoiling show for u and other Canada based guys, maybe u can start telling them u live in US since na the same plus 1 dialing code

FreeStuffsNG:
They are perpetual migrants looking for what is not lost. There is no gold rush anywhere. From Qatar to EU to Cyprus to Italy to SA to Ghana to Ukraine to US to UK and now to Canada, the japa crew are now officially 'one chance' victims. Some could actually have been better in Nigeria but they never learn. Their ears are blocked.

Some crossed over and their first task was cursing Nigeria and talking down on Nigeria. Those ones are the ones Nigeria, the land where their placenta was buried, cursed back physically and spiritually. Sadly, those ones are irredeemable.

They exaggerated the challenges they faced here and some actually quitted certainty for uncertainty before reality hit them hard , unlike the prodigal son, it became too late for them to turn back and return home because of shame, regret and what those they left behind who had overtaken them in life will say.

Andrew a.ka. Mr Japa, you better repent, start blessing Nigeria so it can reverse its curses on you and come back home to start afresh before you end up in life like a snake that never leaves mark on a rock.
check my signature for free stuffs!

i agree with this guy. I feel that it's wiser to start something here, build it, allow it to grow strong, secure it well, then make plans to japa, while you japa, your business here should be able to run strong, then support it from there. If or when things go south, get back home without fear

Amayabor1:


There are thousands of Nigerian Doctors that have succeeded and are succeeding in Canada. I shake my head for you. Allow Op dey deceive you.

Canada doesn't have thousands of Nigerian doctors practicing not even close.

odinga1of:


Guy you are bitter n terrible. Why calling someone Olodo and other names? Bring your point and argue maturely

Very sad…

Amayabor1:


There are thousands of Nigerian Doctors that have succeeded and are succeeding in Canada. I shake my head for you. Allow Op dey deceive you.

so no Nigerian doctor have survived in Nigeria Australia?? UK ?? Or us ?? Or even south Africa, Dubai ?
That's not an excuse bro.. you can succeed anywhere !!!

leody:

Omo your friend ugly gan o

post your pic and your sister own. Yen yen yen

MT:


Liar!

You called yourself a banker, you said you are earning over 6 figures. I laugh. I am done talking to you. Bankers are one of the worst paid professional all over the world. You cant lie your way through. Not a statement from me to you ever again. You are simply not worth it!

Why are you hellbent on contesting his income with him? Would it make you sleep better if he is paid poorly? Why do Nairalanders do this?

The screenshot you posted shows that experienced professionals earn in 6-figures. Last time I checked, he worked in a Big4 in Nigeria. Migrated to Canada and worked in same firm before moving to the bank. So, it is not like he is a 24yrs old graduate with shiny NYSC discharge certificate.

Please take it easy.

Amanda86:
The whole content of this article is showing that Nigerians have a mentality that if they move abroad it is too be rich, if that is your only goal then stay in Nigeria and find your wealth. You are going to Canada with the mindset of a Nigerian, open your mind and find the good in your location, engage in their culture, appreciate good healthcare, schools, a good standard of living. Stop chasing the fake social media lifestyle and look for a good standard of living and a safe place to raise your family. Or if you want to stay rigid and only live life like a Nigerian, then stay in Naija. That is the white mans land, you should be adopting their culture not trying to force your own into there’s.
Simple truth na.

pocohantas:


Very sad…

Madam Pocohantas the tech worker. U quoted me

I will screenshot and take it to Government house Asaba, Gov. Okowa must put me for payroll.

franchasofficia:
Young man listen, you have inferiority complex. The op never compared Nigeria with Canada. She was comparing Canada with other developed countries and telling Nigerians why they should consider other developed countries first before Canada.


You are too small to argue with me lol. I can pay your Salary in Canada, I am paying people like you so when I talk you listen and learn okay?

Franchas my main man! Na you fit Nairalanders. Hahahahahahahaha!

pocohantas:


Franchas my main man! Na you fit Nairalanders. Hahahahahahahaha!

lolz, no mind them, they derailed the young lady's sound thread and made it look like she was comparing Canada with Nigeria, who doesn't know that Nigeria of today is a mess?


Some of them when they first migrate out of Nigeria, they start looking down on even their uncles in Nigeria that raised the money they used as PoF and other stuffs lolz.


I assist people like him a lot na, relocating abroad doesn't mean you have become richer or better than your uncles that pay people salary and even fund people to travel abroad to break family poverty na

odinga1of:


Madam Pocohantas the tech worker. U quoted me

I will screenshot and take it to Government house Asaba, Gov. Okowa must put me for payroll.

Lmao. I am not a tech worker and I am very sure I have interacted with your monicker here before. I am very familiar with your monicker. Maybe I quote you in my head.

Ilaje1:


Yankee too is not different. Western world is generally boring. The good thing about USA though is places like Texas, Georgia, South generally, have weather similar to Naija with short winter and cost of living are relatively low compare to New York, Massachusetts, Maryland etc. But you won't get too many kpekus like in Canada or up north US that has similar weather with Canada.

How man go cun dae run kpekus like this.

E be many things walahi