Readers of Thiaoouba Prophecy and the Bible ask whether Jesus will come back in the future, and what we need to do to prepare for his second coming, if he is coming back. Below are just my personal thoughts for your reference.

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Thiaoouba:

Readers of Thiaoouba Prophecy and the Bible ask whether Jesus will come back in the future, and what we need to do to prepare for his second coming, if he is coming back. Below are just my personal thoughts for your reference.
Please see https://www.chinasona.org/Thiaoouba/Jesus-second-coming.html

Jesus is around with angels working presently gathering his subjects throughout the earth into his store house {Matthew 13:30} because a great war is fast approaching this planet {Revelations 16:14:16} by the time they are through with the sealing of his earthly subjects they will begin striking billions to death! Revelations 19:19-21

JESUS IS COMING BACK WHEN FOOLISHNESS, STUPIDITY AND IGNORANCE WOULD HAVE BEEN WIPED OFF THE EARTH.
ONLY THE RIGHTEOUS SHALL LIVE ON EARTH AND IN THE TWO NEW JERUSALEMS(GOD'S NATIONS) ON EARTH AND IN HEAVEN.
THE GRACE OF CHRIST SHALL BE STANDARDS WITH THE LIVING. THERE WILL BE PURITY RIGHTEOUSNESS AND SOVEREIGNTY AND ALL IN THE LIVING.
HALLELUJAH HOSANNA IN THE HIGHEST!!!

2 Thessalonians 2 v 1-4;

1 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters,
2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come.
3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.
4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.


The above verse clearly shows the believers would be very much around when the lawless one (the antichrist) who would defile God's temple would be revealed - Daniel 9 v 27, Revelation 13 v 9-10 and Matthew 24 v 15.

Any scripture figuratively talking about the coming of Jesus in the future literally implies that, the day we will die is the coming of Jesus.

The day of the Lord isn't referring to one particular day in the future, the day of the Lord is every day.

For instance, he is coming soon implies that we will die soon(after about100 years of our lives), because it is appointed once for men to die, after that the judgement.

His coming happens to people at different times, it may happen to me today, tommorow to you.

Ofcourse people have been dying every day, that means Jesus has been coming every day to judge people.

After that life continues

OkCornel:
2 Thessalonians 2 v 1-4;

1 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters,
2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come.
3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.
4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.


The above verse clearly shows the believers would be very much around when the lawless one (the antichrist) who would defile God's temple would be revealed - Daniel 9 v 27, Revelation 13 v 9-10 and Matthew 24 v 15.

Given that the second resurrection is what all gentile believers will be a part of - Parable of the 10 virgins in Matthew 25 vs 1 - 13, among others -, it means the second coming we are waiting for comes after the millennial reign, not before it.

As for what Paul supposedly wrote in His letter to the Thessalonians, given the reference made to the Temple in Jerusalem, I believe he wrote there of the first resurrection of which the Jews will be a part of and not the second resurrection which is of only those who are of the Kingdom of God.

Kobojunkie:
Given that the second resurrection is what all gentile believers will be a part of - Parable of the 10 virgins in Matthew 25 vs 1 - 13, among others -, it means the second coming we are waiting for comes after the millennial reign, not before it.

As for what Paul supposedly wrote in His letter to the Thessalonians, given the reference made to the Temple in Jerusalem, I believe he wrote there of the first resurrection of which the Jews will be a part of and not the second resurrection which is of only those who are of the Kingdom of God.

The second coming is before the millennial reign. Don’t mistake that for the second resurrection.

Christians can't even agree on the coming of Jesus thread again!

It seems Jesus, Paul and holy spirit were unable to explicitly explain the coming.

Anyways, Jesus will come back to destroy the religion of Cross...

OkCornel:
The second coming is before the millennial reign. Don’t mistake that for the second resurrection.

Not in anyway trying to confuse the two. Just stressing that it is also Jesus Christ at the first resurrection(of the Jews) and the second resurrection(those of the Kingdom of God) which take place about 1000 years apart.

Kobojunkie:
Not in anyway trying to confuse the two. Just stressing that it is also Jesus Christ at the first resurrection(of the Jews) and the second resurrection(those of the Kingdom of God) which take place about 1000 years apart.

The first resurrection is for both Jewish and gentile believers.

OkCornel:
The first resurrection is for both Jewish and gentile believers.

If the first is both Jews and Gentiles, then what you are insinuating is that Jesus Christ lied?

Kobojunkie:
If the first is both Jews and Gentiles, then what you are insinuating is that Jesus Christ lied?

Where did Christ mention resurrection is first for the Jews and then the gentiles?

OkCornel:
Where did Christ mention resurrection is first for the Jews and then the gentiles?

God promised a resurrection to the Jews and a time of peace and Holiness during which He will reign as King over Jerusalem. This you read well from the Prophets.

Jesus Christ then came in and told His followers to believe what the prophets said and that He has two flocks. He also explained that He is the King of the Jews - the King to reign over Israel during the time of the resurrection of the Jews a time described extensively in Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah etc, where you read mentioned that all those who are gathered back to the Holy Jerusalem are sons and daughters of Israel .

And then He also said He is King over the Kingdom of God who is to judge those who are of the Kingdom of God to which both gentiles and Jews belong.

So, 2 events are described, His reign and His judgement. 2 flocks over which He is the one Shepherd.

Kobojunkie:
God promised a resurrection to the Jews and a time of peace and Holiness during which He will reign as King over Jerusalem. This you read well from the Prophets.

Jesus Christ then came in and told His followers to believe what the prophets said and that He has two flocks. He also explained that He is the King of the Jews - the King to reign over Israel during the time of the resurrection of the Jews a time described extensively in Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah etc, where you read mentioned that all those who are gathered back to the Holy Jerusalem are sons and daughters of Israel .

And then He also said He is King over the Kingdom of God who is to judge those who are of the Kingdom of God to which both gentiles and Jews belong.

So, 2 events are described, His reign and His judgement. 2 flocks over which He is the one Shepherd.

Can you help with scriptural references where the first resurrection is for the Jews only? Thanks

What do you think about below:

In Revelation 1:7, the Bible also says, “Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him. Even so. Amen.”

In this paragraph, it is clear that when Jesus comes again, it will be a global event in which all people on Earth will witness it because “every eye will see him.” Realistically speaking, it would not be possible for every eye to see Jesus on Earth if he comes again because Earth is a sphere, and if Jesus appears in the sky of Asia, people in South America would not be able to see him. Therefore, if all people on Earth are to witness the event, the “second coming of Jesus” must be a figurative description, not to be taken literally.

Thiaoouba:
What do you think about below:

In Revelation 1:7, the Bible also says, “Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him. Even so. Amen.”

In this paragraph, it is clear that when Jesus comes again, it will be a global event in which all people on Earth will witness it because “every eye will see him.” Realistically speaking, it would not be possible for every eye to see Jesus on Earth if he comes again because Earth is a sphere, and if Jesus appears in the sky of Asia, people in South America would not be able to see him. Therefore, if all people on Earth are to witness the event, the “second coming of Jesus” must be a figurative description, not to be taken literally.

See Matthew 24 vs 26 - 28 where Jesus Christ said it will be so as it will be seen everywhere.

OkCornel:
Can you help with scriptural references where the first resurrection is for the Jews only? Thanks

According to Revelations 20, it is revealed that those who are of the first resurrection are those who are referred to as God's Holy people.

4 Then I saw some thrones and people sitting on them. These were the ones who had been given the power to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been killed because they were faithful to the truth of Jesus and the message from God. They did not worship the beast or its idol. They did not receive the mark of the beast on their foreheads or on their hands. They came back to life and ruled with Christ for 1000 years.
5 (The rest of the dead did not live again until the 1000 years were ended.) This is the first resurrection.
6 Great blessings belong to those who share in this first resurrection. They are God’s holy people. The second death has no power over them. They will be priests for God and for Christ. They will rule with him for 1000 years. - Revelations 20 vs 4 - 6

verse 6 reveals that these are people sealed by God for Himself of the flock of Jesus Christ meaning that Hell is not even an option - the gates of Hell cannot prevail against Him. What this means is that Hell was never an option for them from the time God chose them in Jesus Christ, and this is from the stock of Israel.

In Revelations 7, we read of those who were sealed by God in Jesus Christ, and they are all of them of Israel.

11 Listen, the Lord is speaking to all the faraway lands: “Tell the people of Zion, ‘Look, your Savior is coming. He is bringing your reward to you He is bringing it with him.’”
12 His people will be called “The Holy People,” “The Saved People of the Lord.” And you, Jerusalem, will be called “The City God Wants,” “The City God Is With.” - Isaiah 62 vs 11 - 12

In Isaiah, we read, in reference to Zion/Israel, of those who will be called God's Holy People, who will be brought in by the savior to Zion.

However, if you pay attention to the Gospel, Jesus Christ never once refers to His followers as a Holy people, instead, He refers to His followers are servants of God, Sons of God/Children of God, and even His brothers and sisters, and mothers, Friends, even, but never a Holy people - John 8 vs 31 - 35.

Kobojunkie:
According to Revelations 20, it is revealed that those who are of the first resurrection are those who are referred to as God's Holy people.
verse 6 reveals that these are people sealed by God for Himself of the flock of Jesus Christ meaning that Hell is not even an option - the gates of Hell cannot prevail against Him. What this means is that Hell was never an option for them from the time God chose them in Jesus Christ, and this is from the stock of Israel.

In Revelations 7, we read of those who were sealed by God in Jesus Christ, and they are all of them of Israel.
In Isaiah, we read, in reference to Zion/Israel, of those who will be called God's Holy People, who will be brought in by the savior to Zion.

Apostle Peter called true believers in Christ God’s holy people. Is he wrong?

1 Peter 2 v 9-10;
9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

AntiChristian:

Christians can't even agree on the coming of Jesus thread again! It seems Jesus, Paul and holy spirit were unable to explicitly explain the coming. Anyways, Jesus will come back to destroy the religion of Cross...

So according to your own teachers in Islam Jesus is coming back to do something, shey?
Surely you're not left out in the second coming of Jesus!

OkCornel:
Apostle Peter called true believers in Christ God’s holy people.

1 Peter 2 v 9-10;
9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

To better understand those Peter was referring to, you have to go back to chapter 1 of his letter.....

1. Greetings from Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ. To God’s chosen people who are away from their homes—people scattered all over the areas of Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia.
2 God planned long ago to choose you and to make you his holy people, which is the Spirit’s work. God wanted you to obey him and to be made clean by the blood sacrifice of Jesus Christ. I pray that you will enjoy more and more of God’s grace and peace. - 1 Peter 1 vs 1 - 2

Clearly Peter's letter was not addressed to all Christians but instead to the Jewish Christians who were dispersed from their home to other lands.

17 You pray to God and call him Father, but he will judge everyone the same way—by what they do. So while you are visiting here on earth, you should live with respect for God.
18 You know that in the past the way you were living was useless. It was a way of life you learned from those who lived before you. But you were saved from that way of living. You were bought, but not with things that ruin like gold or silver.
19 You were bought with the precious blood of Christ’s death. He was a pure and perfect sacrificial Lamb.
20 Christ was chosen before the world was made, but he was shown to the world in these last times for you.
21 You believe in God through Christ. God is the one who raised him from death and gave honor to him. So your faith and your hope are in God. - 1 Peter 1 vs 17 - 21

Recall that redemption does not come to one until one is dead to the Law. This is the case with even the Old Law and the New Covenant aka the Gospel. Well, Peter's audience is those who have already been bought by the blood of Jesus Christ meaning they have already been redeemed from God's Law. And those who were bought/redeemed from God's Law are the Jewish believers, for Jesus Christ's blood paid the sin debt they owed God's Old Covenant through the impartation of His righteousness(Old Covenant Standard) and death on the cross. So, what is written also in 1 Peter 2, is in reference to the same audience as these chosen people who are sealed are the ones referred to as God's Holy People, they will judge His Holy nation of Israel when the time comes.

Kobojunkie:
God promised a resurrection to the Jews and a time of peace and Holiness during which He will reign as King over Jerusalem. This you read well from the Prophets.

Jesus Christ then came in and told His followers to believe what the prophets said and that He has two flocks. He also explained that He is the King of the Jews - the King to reign over Israel during the time of the resurrection of the Jews a time described extensively in Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah etc, where you read mentioned that all those who are gathered back to the Holy Jerusalem are sons and daughters of Israel .

And then He also said He is King over the Kingdom of God who is to judge those who are of the Kingdom of God to which both gentiles and Jews belong.

So, 2 events are described, His reign and His judgement. 2 flocks over which He is the one Shepherd.

You have not answered his question at all. Where did Christ say the Jews would rise first? Please mention the verse where he taught that the Jews would rise first.

Kobojunkie:
To better understand those Peter was referring to, you have to go back to chapter 1 of his letter.....
Clearly Peter's letter was not addressed to all Christians but instead to the Jewish Christians who were dispersed from their home to other lands.
Recall that redemption does not come to one until one is dead to the Law. This is the case with even the Old Law and the New Covenant aka the Gospel. Well, Peter's audience is those who have already been bought by the blood of Jesus Christ meaning they have already been redeemed from God's Law. And those who were bought/redeemed from God's Law are the Jewish believers, for Jesus Christ's blood paid the sin debt they owed God's Old Covenant through the impartation of His righteousness(Old Covenant Standard) and death on the cross. So, what is written also in 1 Peter 2, is in reference to the same audience as these chosen people who are sealed are the ones referred to as God's Holy People, they will judge His Holy nation of Israel when the time comes.

In 1 Peter 4 v 16 shows the letter was addressed to the entire churches mentioned in 1 Peter 1, and not just Jews;

16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.

Furthermore, are Silvanus (Silas) and Marcus (Mark) Jews?

2 Peter 5 v 12-13;

12 By Silvanus, (Silas) a faithful brother unto you, as I suppose, I have written briefly, exhorting, and testifying that this is the true grace of God wherein ye stand.

13 The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you, saluteth you; and so doth Marcus (Mark) my son.

MaxInDHouse:


So according to your own teachers in Islam Jesus is coming back to do something, shey?
Surely you're not left out in the second coming of Jesus!

Your own Jesus don come in 1914. Is he still coming again? And how is that his second coming? It should be third or more!

OkCornel:
1. In 1 Peter 4 v 16 shows the letter was addressed to the entire churches mentioned in 1 Peter 1, and not just Jews;

16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.

2. Furthermore, are Silvanus (Silas) and Marcus (Mark) Jews?

2 Peter 5 v 12-13;
12 By Silvanus, (Silas) a faithful brother unto you, as I suppose, I have written briefly, exhorting, and testifying that this is the true grace of God wherein ye stand.

13 The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you, saluteth you; and so doth Marcus (Mark) my son.

1. How exactly does 1 Peter 4 show the letter which indicated in its beginnings that it was addressed primarily to those dispersed at the time, those bought by the blood of Jesus Christ, then become about all Christians because of the statement "if any man suffers as a Christian"?

I mean that statement is akin to the one made by Jesus Christ which states that those who are not ashamed of Him, Jesus Christ, He will acknowledge before the angels.

2. You mean Jews don't bear other names? Priscilla and Aquila for example... were they not jews? Were Peter, John, Matthew, Luke, Timothy, Andrew etc. not Jews even though the names aren't ? Why can't Silvanus and Marcus also be jews? I don't follow at all.

Kobojunkie:
1. How exactly does 1 Peter 4 show the letter which indicated in its beginnings that it was addressed primarily to those dispersed at the time, those bought by the blood of Jesus Christ, then become about all Christians because of the statement "if any man suffers as a Christian"?

I mean that statement is akin to the one made by Jesus Christ which states that those who are not ashamed of Him, Jesus Christ, He will acknowledge before the angels.

2. You mean Jews don't bear other names? Priscilla and Aquila for example... were they not jews? Were Peter, John, Matthew, Luke, Timothy, Andrew etc. not Jews even though the names aren't ? Why can't Silvanus and Marcus also be jews? I don't follow at all.

1. If Peter’s letter was addressed to the Jews only, why didn’t he admonish “any Jewish man” to suffer as a Christian? Rather, “any man” was used in that context.

2. Are Silvanus and Marcus Jews? Certainly not. It’ll be helpful if there are incontrovertible evidences these men are Jews.

OkCornel:
1. If Peter’s letter was addressed to the Jews only, why didn’t he admonish “any Jewish man” to suffer as a Christian? Rather, “any man” was used in that context.

2. Are Silvanus and Marcus Jews? Certainly not. It’ll be helpful if there are incontrovertible evidences these men are Jews.

1. Why exactly would Peter need to "admonish" Jewish man instead of Christians?

Are you under the impression that the Gospel, from which the commandment he stated comes from, separates jews from Gentiles in some way?

2. How do you know they were not Jews?

OKCornel, One more thing I forgot to indicate earlier. Those who are to become God's priests are those who are of the seed of Israel

6 You will be a special nation —a kingdom of priests.’ Moses, you must tell the Israelites what I have said.” - Exodus 19:6

God's priests, are spoken of in the epistles, as well as the book of revelations, are those who are of the seed of Israel. Gentiles are not a part of that Covenant from its beginning, and it is not indicated anywhere in scripture that God lifted that restriction at any point in time.

Kobojunkie:
OKCornel, One more thing I forgot to indicate earlier. Those who are to become God's priests are those who are of the seed of Israel
God's priests, are spoken of in the epistles, as well as the book of revelations, are those who are of the seed of Israel. Gentiles are not a part of that Covenant from its beginning, and it is not indicated anywhere in scripture that God lifted that restriction at any point in time.

Revelation 1 v 4-6;

To the seven churches in the province of Asia:

4 Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits before his throne,

5 and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.
To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood,

6 and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father—to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.


Was Apostle John referring to only Jews in the seven churches in Asia, that only Jewish believers in these churches are going to be God’s priests?

Last time I checked, there were Jewish and Gentile believers in the churches.

AntiChristian:

Your own Jesus don come in 1914. Is he still coming again? And how is that his second coming? It should be third or more!

You only need knowledge! Hosea 4:6

Jesus has always been with the Israelites as a mighty spirit person before coming as a man to be seen by everyone!

So his return in 1914 was as an invisible mighty spirit being to restructure his group but when he will come to be seen just like he did in the first century it will mean death for all unbelievers! Luke 19:27

OkCornel:
1. Was Apostle John referring to only Jews in the seven churches in Asia, that only Jewish believers in these churches are going to be God’s priests?

2. Last time I checked, there were Jewish and Gentile believers in the churches.

1. I would say this, let that which is written be your guide.

As indicated in scripture, God's promise to the Israelites is that He would make a Kingdom of priests of them. That promise He made only to those of the blood of Israel. That promise was never made to those of Gentile birth by God.

At one point, God did allow Eunuchs in but that promise, I am unsure expands to the Old Covenant

2. I am curious. Is there a particular reason why you need, against God's own declaration, for gentiles to be inserted into God's agreement without God's permission or say so?

Kobojunkie:
1. I would say this, let that which is written be your guide.

As indicated in scripture, God's promise to the Israelites is that He would make a Kingdom of priests of them. That promise He made only to those of the blood of Israel. That promise was never made to those of Gentile birth by God.

2. I am curious. Is there a particular reason why you need, against God's own declaration, for gentiles to be inserted into God's agreement without God's permission or say so?

I didn’t include anything. Peter and John made it crystal clear in their letters who will be the priests with Christ in the Kingdom.

It was not only Jewish believers.

Unless you want to tell us the 7 churches in Asia had only Jewish believers.

Furthermore, Revelation 20 clearly mentioned who is eligible for the first resurrection. Last time I checked, it’s not only Jewish believers that’ll face the great tribulation.