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advanceDNA:
Clearly....u are lunatíc..enjoy your self-induced madnéss

Ah ah ah ah

Do i get the mods here now or not. Tsk tsk tsk

Persephone1:

Ah ah ah ah

Do i get the mods here now or not. Tsk tsk tsk

advanceDNA:
Sigh!!! Nairaland is where your life matters..i understand .....pele....i ddnt knoe i was getting to you all along...dont cry ooo

You are trying too hard dude. I honestly don't see you more than a play gadget on this thread.

You may go now, you have exhausted your usefulness Byeeeeeeeee

EzegeNdiigbo:
Is not longer a new thing to me that 99% of members in Nairaland are male,you can't come here saying you want to find the "ONE" but you will only finds "BALL'S"
A thread was created yesterday which now made it to FP asking ladies if they would marry a guy that will not ask them of sex till marriage, instead of the thread to be bombarded by Ladies,No,its was the guys here that carry the question for head speaking out of point making it a bored one.

So when i talked we're all Male here don't argue with me because that a #FACT...


https://www.nairaland.com/7319109/ladies-date-guy-wont-ask

etrange:
A good deal of NL members are men, that's very obvious. However, there are more ladies than you think. They just don't comment on threads due to the intense misogyny going on here. The guys are always on every thread abusing and sexualizing women. To some of these guys, it's fun; to others, it's a way to make themselves feel better about their own underachieving life; while the rest just want to belong. You see threads where men commit all sorts of crimes, and we all gather to criticize the men in question (though we sometimes foolishly make it about their tribes or religion). However, when a lady is a culprit, it becomes a gender thing for the guys. You'd read "fear women", "Nigerian women are wicked", "Nigerian girls are useless", "olosho", etc. Even on threads where women are doing great, you'd still read "this one punna go sweet o", "her husband dey enjoy o", and other expressions that objectify them and undermine their achievements. These comments are made by people who complain their tribes are being marginalized or that the white man is a racist. Yet they boldly make these misogynistic statements without identifying them as discriminatory.

It has become so typical that while mods are fighting tribalism, nobody cares about sexism. Words have power. It's easy to speak someone into depression/anxiety or low self-esteem. It's easy to spoil someone's day with words. These words can make someone give up because the outcome is the same regardless of what they do. I mean, if I were a lady, I'd stay away from such a demoralizing platform. So some of these ladies decided to leave the platform for the guys. Some are still here but hardly comment. Others have removed the gender identifier or even identify as male. I mean, look at it, the other day, someone created a thread asking why we have many women on the BBN thread. He called them jobless. The person forgot that the rest of NL including the dirty sexuality section are filled with men. It's becoming increasingly difficult for the ladies here. It's as if we're going back to those days when women had to use their husbands' names or even fake male names to advance their achievements like Margaret Keane, Trotula of Salerno, Jocelyn Bell Burnell, Lise Meitner and numerous others.

meobizy:
Lol.

EzegeNdiigbo:
Is not longer a new thing to me that 99% of members in Nairaland are male,you can't come here saying you want to find the "ONE" but you will only finds "BALL'S"
A thread was created yesterday which now made it to FP asking ladies if they would marry a guy that will not ask them of sex till marriage, instead of the thread to be bombarded by Ladies,No,its was the guys here that carry the question for head speaking out of point making it a bored one.

So when i talked we're all Male here don't argue with me because that a #FACT...


https://www.nairaland.com/7319109/ladies-date-guy-wont-ask

Persephone1:
Fearless, we can keep going on and on trying to prove a point. The bolded is't true, Your last paragraph is false. We both know that else this thread won't exist.

However i'd let it go. It's all fun for me, who takes Nl that serious.

FearlessOG:
Do not be deceived by anyone claiming that females rarely comment on threads because of misogyny or sexism. I’ve seen this erroneous claim times without number. That is a blatant lie!!! In fact, it is quite ironic that females on Nairaland comment far more on threads where misogyny/sexism is prevalent than on other threads where misogyny/sexism is virtually non-existent. Any person who has been on Nairaland long enough (either as a guest or as an active user) and has a modicum of sincerity can easily confirm this.

I wholeheartedly welcome anyone to call my bluff. Go and verify the following:
What’s the degree of misogyny/sexism on football threads? What is the extent of participation of females on such threads?
What’s the degree of misogyny/sexism on political threads? What is the extent of participation of females on such threads?
What’s the degree of misogyny/sexism on investment threads? What is the extent of participation of females on such threads?
What’s the degree of misogyny/sexism on automobile threads? What is the extent of participation of females on such threads?
There are many more examples but the above should suffice.

After answering those questions, kindly proceed to verify the following:
What’s the degree of misogyny/sexism on romance threads? What is the extent of participation of females on such threads?
What’s the degree of misogyny/sexism on celebrity threads? What is the extent of participation of females on such threads?
What’s the degree of misogyny/sexism on family threads? What is the extent of participation of females on such threads?

By the time you are done getting answers to the above questions, it will become crystal clear that females on Nairaland are overwhelmingly present on threads that have to do with sex and relationships (Romance, Family, Celebrities, etc). Those are the same threads where the misogyny and sexism are also present, so it’s a no-brainer. Perhaps the only section where females dominate on Nairaland with little/no misogyny/sexism is the Food section. Conversely, there are numerous sections where males dominate on Nairaland with little/no misogyny/sexism, but females are rarely ever interested in such threads.

PS: Don’t even get me started on the misandry and androphobia exhibited by females on this forum that rarely ever gets called out. All these are exceptionally easy to verify on the same misogynistic and sexist threads that females “supposedly rarely ever comment on.”

Much ado about nothing.

Persephone1:
To be honest, when i saw your first comment earlier today, i wanted to take it up with befitting counter response but i decided against it. I thought " its Pan let him have his moment" . I'm glad estrange did the honours of showing you how illogical, sexist and mentally disturbing your submission was. Like seriously in this century one can still posses such archaic notion and spew it proudly . Are we back to the era where men go to school while girls are married off at the completion of their first menstrual cycle? . Yes Nigerian education system may not be top notch but i don't think we run a system where boys are taught to read and write but girls to paint face and smile for camera. So where does your notion that men are trained as intellect and women as superficial camera freaks come from.

I'm an ardent user of the forums you listed and even more, and i put it to you that your claims are totally exaggerated and purely made on assumptions. These forums have subsections, have you gone through all? What if i tell you that on real writers forum Women are more appreciated because they translate the invisible better, they are more connected to emotions because they are the deeper beings. Female Authors are always different.

Nairaland Isn't even a writing Forum. Well it used to be but not anymore. Even the males that comment are far from being called writers. A person with an IQ less than two digits can use Nairaland and he will be celebrated as a genius all he needs is hate against women ask Zon.efree how he rose to NL stardom if you doubt me. Far back in days where intelligent folks existed on NL people like my example don't comment. They read and learn while the elders deliberate. Both Guys and Ladies debate on topics, argue where need be, brawls and still learn from each other. I have witnessed debates gone for two days between monickers with opposing point of view. Each party argued with facts and references until they reach a conclusion. I've seen brawl that makes you get a pen and paper, I've seen conversations that opens your eyes, challenges that inspires you to widen your horizon. Back then you don't just wake up and post lies,someone would call you out with fact. Not only were users of that era Intellectually intelligent , they were emotionally intelligent too.

But look at what we have now, dead brain teenagers with hyperactive hormones littering the forum with their mediocrity. Women are tagged names, bullied,shamed here and you expect them to stay? Even in their absence folks like you are still throwing stones at them by undermining their intelligence.

etrange:
A good deal of NL members are men, that's very obvious. However, there are more ladies than you think. They just don't comment on threads due to the intense misogyny going on here. The guys are always on every thread abusing and sexualizing women. To some of these guys, it's fun; to others, it's way to make themselves feel better about thier own underachieving life; while the rest just want to belong. You see threads where men commit all sorts of crimes, and we all gather to criticize the men in question (though we sometimes foolishly make it about thier tribes or religion). However, when a lady is the culprit, it becomes a gender thing for the guys. You'd read "fear women", "Nigerian women are wicked", "Nigerian girls are useless", "olosho", etc. Even on threads where women are doing great, you'd still read "this one punna go sweet o", "her husband dey enjoy o", and other expressions that objectify them and undermine thier achievements. These comments are made by people who complain thier tribes are being marginalized or that the white man is a racist. Yet they boldly make these misogynistic statements without identifying them as discriminatory.

It has become so normal that while mods are fighting tribalism, nobody really cares about the sexism. Words have power. It's easy to speak someone into depression/anxiety or low self esteem. It's easy to spoil someone's day with words. These words can make someone give up because regardless of what they do, the outcome is the same. I mean, if I were a lady, I'd stay away from such a demoralizing platform. So some of these ladies decided to leave the platform for the guys. Some are still here but hardly comment. Others have removed the gender identifier or even identify as male. I mean, look at it, the other day, someone created a thread asking why we have many women on the BBN thread. He called them jobless. The person forgot that the rest of NL including the dirty sexuality section are filled with men. It's becoming increasingly difficult for the ladies here. It's as if we're going back to those days where women had to use thier husbands' names or even fake male names to advance thier achievements like Margaret Keane, Trotula of Salerno, Jocelyn Bell Burnell, Lise Meitner and numerous others.

etrange:
Human nature? Where did you get this from? This idea that men are superior beings and that they do better when brainpower is required while women are relegated to the matters of looks (primarily for men's pleasure) is a typical supremacist's mindset. In other words, it's a complex exhibited by anyone who feels superior to another. They usually attribute it to human nature and when asked to present evidence of that nature, they quote history and statistics with no empirical/clinical evidence. But we all know that history/statistics are easily influenced by all sorts of factors. The ratio of women to men on Quora is 43/57. The gap is not much, and it's better interpreted as a reflection of the ratio women to men in the world accentuated by the impossibility of equality in this case. Biology and psychology have made it clear that there's no gender difference when it comes to human IQ. The narrative that men are intellectually superior is propagated by men, and it's a dangerous one because of its rippling effects on society.

Yes, there was a time when only men used to go to school. They had the intellectually tasking jobs and made a good deal of the breakthroughs we know today. Even today, a poor man would rather send his male child to school and marry off his female child. This has led to the belief that men are more intelligent. We're still battling the effects of this belief today in our workspaces and political space. It's also demoralizing to the hardworking ladies out there cause you're telling them that just because of thier gender, they can never measure up regardless of how they try. But in reality, that is not true. It's simply gendered bias. Nothing proves that a man is likely to do better in Law, Medicine, etc. with all things being equal.

#Opinion.

saladinnoir:
You misunderstood him. He didn't say men were intellectually superior he said men are more likely to be appreciated for their intellectual endeavors rather than their looks and vice versa for women. No one wants to see a naked man and no one cares much about brains when boobs are involved.

FearlessOG:
Do not be deceived by anyone claiming that females rarely comment on threads because of misogyny or sexism. I’ve seen this erroneous claim times without number. That is a blatant lie!!! In fact, it is quite ironic that females on Nairaland comment far more on threads where misogyny/sexism is prevalent than on other threads where misogyny/sexism is virtually non-existent. Any person who has been on Nairaland long enough (either as a guest or as an active user) and has a modicum of sincerity can easily confirm this.

I wholeheartedly welcome anyone to call my bluff. Go and verify the following:
What’s the degree of misogyny/sexism on football threads? What is the extent of participation of females on such threads?
What’s the degree of misogyny/sexism on political threads? What is the extent of participation of females on such threads?
What’s the degree of misogyny/sexism on investment threads? What is the extent of participation of females on such threads?
What’s the degree of misogyny/sexism on automobile threads? What is the extent of participation of females on such threads?
There are many more examples but the above should suffice.

After answering those questions, kindly proceed to verify the following:
What’s the degree of misogyny/sexism on romance threads? What is the extent of participation of females on such threads?
What’s the degree of misogyny/sexism on celebrity threads? What is the extent of participation of females on such threads?
What’s the degree of misogyny/sexism on family threads? What is the extent of participation of females on such threads?

By the time you are done getting answers to the above questions, it will become crystal clear that females on Nairaland are overwhelmingly present on threads that have to do with sex and relationships (Romance, Family, Celebrities, etc). Those are the same threads where the misogyny and sexism are also present, so it’s a no-brainer. Perhaps the only section where females dominate on Nairaland with little/no misogyny/sexism is the Food section. Conversely, there are numerous sections where males dominate on Nairaland with little/no misogyny/sexism, but females are rarely ever interested in such threads.

PS: Don’t even get me started on the misandry and androphobia exhibited by females on this forum that rarely ever gets called out. All these are exceptionally easy to verify on the same misogynistic and sexist threads that females “supposedly rarely ever comment on.”

Much ado about nothing.

pansophist:
Writing forums usually have more men for example quora, reddit or nairaland, and social media typically have more females eg Facebook, Instagram, tik tok.

Expecting equal gender distribution is a disregard of human nature. Men will probably be more appreciated on the intellectual/expertise side, and women on the appearance/beauty side.

NB: For the folks that may see oppression in this harmless comment, i summon that you read my follow up comments below.

pansophist:
Same fallacy estrange was guilty of, you're also doing. False inference, twisting my point negatively and intellectual dishonesty. You can't make me dialogue with you honestly if these are your premise. Although to clear all doubt, I'll dive in.

No where did I say that women are mentally inferior, I'm only pointing out the reason why there are more genders in a particular place than the other. You don't have to spin my point negatively or see oppression everywhere. Wetin dey do you sef?

The opposite is also true, meaning that if you think I'm prejudiced towards women's intellect, then it means I'm also prejudiced towards mens beauty, since there are also beautiful men on social media. How about that?

There are more women on social media, it's an indisputable fact, doesn't mean there are no women in stem fields, or a woman's value is only by her looks, or that she is inferior. These are garbage you added that I didn't mean. I'm only responsible for what I said, not how you understood it.

There are more men in Ladipo market because most men are breadwinners. Doesn't mean women are not breadwinners, or there are no women in Ladipo. Your positions are like the people that understand "black lives matter '' to mean "black lives matter only", or that "other lives don't matter. Why the false inference?

You mentally added something I didn't mean, in order to validate your prejudice or project me as a villain of your imagination, when in reality, I'm probably by your side. Let's be guided please. If there is any one that would see women as inferior, then it's definitely not me.

CaveAdullam:
1.I came here because of this comment.

I want you to read at bolded text severally again.

Then my question: How do you criticize men? In what words and languages?

You agreed that both sexes suffer criticisms but you still went ahead and curated it as a gender "misogynistic" problem. So, where is the misandry if men are also criticized?

2. Let me shock you, IT IS WOMEN THAT SLUT SHAME WOMEN THAN MEN. That's scientific information with good data.

3. There are gender differences when it comes to social media usage. Women are more active than men on Instagram, Snapchat, Pinterest, and Facebook. But we don't see men screaming "misandry" all day long. Respect human nature and gender differences.

Overall, women are the most active social media users. Look beyond Nairaland man/woman.

4. Women recede into their shells or come under male monikers because from an evolutionary perspective women are conflict avoidant, the weaker sex, and less muscular. Ostracism exposes them to the tough world, hence, they avoid trouble. So, it is better to keep silent and maintain a herd mentality. That's why war isn't instigated by women concomitantly they don't fight a war. Also, are fewer victims of murder. The homicide rate for men is >70% instigated by men.

5. Women are more interested in making new friends and interacting and bonding emotionally with people. That's why they are more active in social media apps that reveal status and appearances. Men care about information and data, are disagreeable, risk-taking, hence, they are more active than women on Twitter, Reddit, and our dear Nairaland.

6. Of course, there is a need for improvement in social media usage so that individuals can benefit from each other. However, that will not be the case because low-IQ individuals are luxurious and most times extroverts. So expect the craziness.

Thanks.

CaveAdullam:
You already said it is an "opinion" of yours and I'm glad about it. However, this post of yours/opinion is utterly false.

1. There is gender and race difference when it comes to IQ.

2. 43:57; men and women respectively on Quora's age is not much gap you say? The differences are higher than what separates man from chimpanzees. Yet, you can see the differences between humans and apes. Not to talk of more than 1%.

3. For your information, there are enough statistics to counter your claims.

4. To shock once more, where these gender differences are easily identified in Scandinavian countries where the gender polarity is low.

Man, you got to review your facts.

Thanks.

etrange:
Dude, gender has no role in IQ. Nothing you write here remotely invalidates that fact. You can go on and on your quest for supremacy, but take it or leave it, environmental factors and other genetic factors determines intelligence, not gender.

CaveAdullam:
Why are you confusing yourself, man?

Is gender not born out of biology and genetics? Or, is there anyone that's given a brain after birth? You're making conflicting statements man, calm down.

And who said the environment factor doesn't work together with genetics?

If genetics can give rise to a different gender, then, why do you think it can't when it comes to intelligence?

Go check the bell curve of intelligence and IQ distribution.

Have a nice day.

meobizy:
Lol.

Evolutionlove:
Even this bvstard here using f Indicator na one useless small hairy balls negroe. Never seen any race so useless, senseless and worthless like nigerian negroes..

AishaDant:
I could kiss you for this comment.

You are such a sensible man!
There's only very few sensible men left in Nigeria.

pansophist:
Lol, sensible men plenty. They are just invisible to you. You're probably not attracted to them, so therefore, they ain't intelligent

Ever heard of the psychological phenomena known as "the halo effect"?

pansophist:
Lol, sensible men plenty. They are just invisible to you. You're probably not attracted to them, so therefore, they ain't intelligent

Ever heard of the psychological phenomena known as "the halo effect"?

FearlessOG:
One thing I love about the internet is that it always keeps receipts. I am definitely not the person whose bluff you would want to call. Below, I have provided a handful of screenshots to support my emboldened assertion that you said isn’t true. I can easily provide much more, but these would suffice for now to drive home my claim that men do indeed call out misogyny.

It’s even more laughable that you called my last paragraph “false,” yet in your very first response to my first comment on this thread you asserted that these sections (Romance, Celebrity, Family) are meeting points for both male and female users where all users can relate at a certain level. So, after these women have been supposedly chased from these sections, is it now the sections that they have no interest in (e.g. football, automobile, etc) that they are now commenting on? Do females not comment on TheGidRedpiller’s threads? What section are his threads on? Do females not comment on the Redpill thread? What section is that thread on? Do females not comment on threads where questions are being asked about sex, dating, relationships, and marriage? What sections are those threads on? Heck, even this very thread that is on romance section, are there not already a handful of females who have commented here?

I noticed that you didn’t address my claim of females rarely ever calling out misandry. I am now reiterating that claim and calling your bluff. I would love to hear your answer to that. I’d easily wager your response or lack thereof would fall into one of the four options below:

1. Yes, females rarely ever call out misandry. In this case, I’ll be the one to “let it go” (using your words), since there really isn’t anything left to agree/disagree on.

2. No, females actually call out misandry. In this case, the onus is on you to provide evidence to support your claim (just as I have done). I’ll gladly wait for you to do just that.

3. You reply to this comment, say a couple of things and dribble around but digress and end up not addressing my assertion that females rarely ever call out misandry. In this case, I do not even need to reply any further.

4. You pretend as if you did not see my comment and end up not addressing it at all, even though it is certain that you will definitely see it.

I’ll be waiting…

etrange:
A good deal of NL members are men, that's very obvious. However, there are more ladies than you think. They just don't comment on threads due to the intense misogyny going on here. The guys are always on every thread abusing and sexualizing women. To some of these guys, it's fun; to others, it's way to make themselves feel better about thier own underachieving life; while the rest just want to belong. You see threads where men commit all sorts of crimes, and we all gather to criticize the men in question (though we sometimes foolishly make it about thier tribes or religion). However, when a lady is the culprit, it becomes a gender thing for the guys. You'd read "fear women", "Nigerian women are wicked", "Nigerian girls are useless", "olosho", etc. Even on threads where women are doing great, you'd still read "this one punna go sweet o", "her husband dey enjoy o", and other expressions that objectify them and undermine thier achievements. These comments are made by people who complain thier tribes are being marginalized or that the white man is a racist. Yet they boldly make these misogynistic statements without identifying them as discriminatory.

It has become so normal that while mods are fighting tribalism, nobody really cares about the sexism. Words have power. It's easy to speak someone into depression/anxiety or low self esteem. It's easy to spoil someone's day with words. These words can make someone give up because regardless of what they do, the outcome is the same. I mean, if I were a lady, I'd stay away from such a demoralizing platform. So some of these ladies decided to leave the platform for the guys. Some are still here but hardly comment. Others have removed the gender identifier or even identify as male. I mean, look at it, the other day, someone created a thread asking why we have many women on the BBN thread. He called them jobless. The person forgot that the rest of NL including the dirty sexuality section are filled with men. It's becoming increasingly difficult for the ladies here. It's as if we're going back to those days where women had to use thier husbands' names or even fake male names to advance thier achievements like Margaret Keane, Trotula of Salerno, Jocelyn Bell Burnell, Lise Meitner and numerous others.

etrange:
I'd like to believe you didn't read my text carefully cause anything other than this would imply you have an issue with comprehension, and you appear more intelligent than that. Please, read the comment you quoted. I said "other genetic factors". The word "other" invariably excludes gender.

The genetics factors I was referring to are those those that can be passed from parents (regardless of gender) to thier offspring (regardless of gender). We've seen very intelligent women who got the trait from thier fathers. We've also seen very intelligent men who got the trait from thier mothers. This is enough to tell you gender has not role when it comes to IQ. The gender of a baby is a game of chances that revolve around the chromosome contributed by the male partner. A man may have higher tendency of having a girl child based on his gene. A man can also have higher tendency of having an intelligent child based on his gene. The intelligence of this baby does not reduce based on gender result. There no single empirical evidence to support that.

Again, that environmental factors work with genetics is not the bone of contention. The bone of contention is if men will always come out more intelligent when subjected to the same factors as the opposite gender and the answer is NO. You can't send your male child to school and marry off your girl child, and then come back tomorrow to say men are more intelligent just because the guy can speak better English. You can't have the girl do all the house chores and expect the same results with the boy. These are some of the factors I was referring to.

The most extensive study on intelligence curve in the US is The Bell Curve by psychologist Richard J. Herrnstein and political scientist Charles Murray. And they propose that by removing race, gender or class as criteria (via the establishment of free primary education and the prohibition of discrimination) the main criteria of success in academic and professional life is primarily based on individual cognitive ability. So you can argue this as much as you want, but the truth is, intelligence has absolutely nothing to do with gender. There are so many research papers on the subject of "why girls get better grades in school" and most of them end up with circumstantial factors as the reasons. So it's mind-blowing for someone to slightly suggest boys are naturally more intelligent

Good evening to you too.

etrange:
Dude, gender has no role in IQ. Nothing you write here remotely invalidate that fact. You can go on and on on your quest for supremacy, but take it or leave it, environmental factors and other genetic factors determines intelligence, not gender.