₦airaland Forum

LastProphet:
And after your truck driver or you is kidnapped when the vehicle breaks down on Lagos Ibadan road what will you pay? Or if you're in a hopeless state like Kogi and yaya Bello believe you're against him politically? Or minister of fact who closed the main street to our plaza because it disturbs his convoy, many shops closed in our plaza? Or have you had run in with tax people at the end of the year? Or you import something for $500 but the customs officer believe you should clear it with $2000? You don't know anything

shegzhkn:
The old folks did not do yahoo plus, ritual or whatever but they created a society that foster those acts - an obsessively materialistic society.

They have failed completely, South Korea was in complete ruined after the war but they knew they could build a functioning society, put plan in place and then they execute and today she is a country it citizens are proud of, ask me what your forebears were doing.

Samunique:
I've watched with amazement and bewilderment how the social media nairaland inclusive, have been filled with the stories of leaving Nigeria to other countries with the impression that, once they get there their problems are over. I think this big fat lie will hunt, and may destroy our future generations if nothing is done about it.

1. They believe once you leave the shores of this country, you have nothing to worry about again bcs automatic success is now guaranteed. If this is true, what happens to many Nigerians that are now stranded after so many years abroad ? Is the system over there a contributory factor as well

2. Government is bad !
Yes Nigerian government is very bad, if not the worst in the whole world. But then, who is the government, isn't it you and I ? Are we forgetting that a government is a product of the society and the reflection of its people ?
If the government is bad, then we're bad as a people !

This very generation of Nigerian youths is worse than the current leaders of the pass/outgoing generation they're blaming.

At least, our current leaders did not practice Yahoo Yahoo, Yahoo plus, they did not steal women pants for money ritual, they didn't engage in kidnapping for quick money etc in their time. But this generation does and even far worst things. I'm not in anyway exhonorating them bcs they have really messed up this country. But this generation is now worst than them.

Yes our pass and current leaders steal our collective wealth ? They did/do so bcs we allow them to, based on ethic, tribal and religious sentiments. In fact continuous stealing is only possible in the society of thieves and robbers. If all we could produce as leaders are thieves and looters, then that's who we all are as a people.

These same people that are preaching "JAPA" now, will never obey a simple traffic rule while in Nigeria, but they're there now throw every kind of stone against their own country.
Ask them what's their own contribution back home towards nation building.

Did they ever obey simple traffic rule?

What about paying their taxes, what was their contribution to social development and services etc ?

These things and more they're willingly do over there bcs they know that the
[b]the sicitzens of those countries make law and systems to work not even the governments, and they cannot hid under a finger. Remove the law and oder over there, and see them showing their true colours.

Lastly, I think there are some external forces behind this sudden propaganda of japa. I know Nigeria is at it worst state since it started as a nation, but if we all run away, who will rescue and build it, where would we run back to when the jungle is matured outside ?

Nations are built by their citizens.

And for those of you outside Nigeria whose job now is to mock and denigrate the country, remember your people are still leaving here.

Some are even going as far as mocking God, the two major religions, saying all manner of things against the church, mosque etc. For your information, Nigerians have always been religious, it's in our DNA. There's a time Nigeria was working, our currency was better than the British pounds. My mother's senior brothers who schooled in the UK came back to Nigeria to work, and that didn't make people less religious.

Maybe you forgot, I will remind some of you that, some of your parents wouldn't have been educated but for the help the church and missionary Schools .

https://www.nairaland.com/7495060/why-nigerians-less-religious-when/2

Build, don't destroy the Nation


Nlpf mod, DisGuy, justwise, seun, lalasticlala and co

ednut1:
that is why some of them should have 4 private jets They attended free missionary schools why cant their universities be free With tithe used to augment running expenses

ednut1:
https://www.nairaland.com/4604572/africans-roasting-corn-survival-paris those that went to Europe via libya. The countries are overwhelmed and it takes time to process their asylum claims, some have been denied asylum and are hiding too.

Samunique:
I've watched with amazement and bewilderment how the social media nairaland inclusive, have been filled with the stories of leaving Nigeria to other countries with the impression that, once they get there their problems are over. I think this big fat lie will hunt, and may destroy our future generations if nothing is done about it.

1. They believe once you leave the shores of this country, you have nothing to worry about again bcs automatic success is now guaranteed. If this is true, what happens to many Nigerians that are now stranded after so many years abroad ? Is the system over there a contributory factor as well

2. Government is bad !
Yes Nigerian government is very bad, if not the worst in the whole world. But then, who is the government, isn't it you and I ? Are we forgetting that a government is a product of the society and the reflection of its people ?
If the government is bad, then we're bad as a people !

This very generation of Nigerian youths is worse than the current leaders of the pass/outgoing generation they're blaming.

At least, our current leaders did not practice Yahoo Yahoo, Yahoo plus, they did not steal women pants for money ritual, they didn't engage in kidnapping for quick money etc in their time. But this generation does and even far worst things. I'm not in anyway exhonorating them bcs they have really messed up this country. But this generation is now worst than them.

Yes our pass and current leaders steal our collective wealth ? They did/do so bcs we allow them to, based on ethic, tribal and religious sentiments. In fact continuous stealing is only possible in the society of thieves and robbers. If all we could produce as leaders are thieves and looters, then that's who we all are as a people.

These same people that are preaching "JAPA" now, will never obey a simple traffic rule while in Nigeria, but they're there now throw every kind of stone against their own country.
Ask them what's their own contribution back home towards nation building.

Did they ever obey simple traffic rule?

What about paying their taxes, what was their contribution to social development and services etc ?

These things and more they're willingly do over there bcs they know that the
[b]the sicitzens of those countries make law and systems to work not even the governments, and they cannot hid under a finger. Remove the law and oder over there, and see them showing their true colours.

Lastly, I think there are some external forces behind this sudden propaganda of japa. I know Nigeria is at it worst state since it started as a nation, but if we all run away, who will rescue and build it, where would we run back to when the jungle is matured outside ?

Nations are built by their citizens.

And for those of you outside Nigeria whose job now is to mock and denigrate the country, remember your people are still leaving here.

Some are even going as far as mocking God, the two major religions, saying all manner of things against the church, mosque etc. For your information, Nigerians have always been religious, it's in our DNA. There's a time Nigeria was working, our currency was better than the British pounds. My mother's senior brothers who schooled in the UK came back to Nigeria to work, and that didn't make people less religious.

Maybe you forgot, I will remind some of you that, some of your parents wouldn't have been educated but for the help the church and missionary Schools .

https://www.nairaland.com/7495060/why-nigerians-less-religious-when/2

Build, don't destroy the Nation


Nlpf mod, DisGuy, justwise, seun, lalasticlala and co

MimiSheWrote:
Nice one @OP

It takes way more than just the government to advance a nation. real development starts with the actual people, it starts with you and me.

The key is actually the general mentality.

See, If you find a way to swap every single person in the United States with everyone in Nigeria: in just a quarter century.. Nigeria would be way better that this present U.S.A, and the U.S.A as we know it now would automatically decline and reverse to a devoloping 3rd world country.




You have a point… I can add this too.

If there are no limitations, humans have a tendency to go too far and break the law. Now consider why Nigerians are prospering and are generally law-abiding when they travel overseas. Because their laws are effective and robust.

CodeTemplar:
and how many free schools is govt running? A govt that takes crude oil, tax, and more? Or is it what 90% can not do, 10%/will suddenly do in the hands of pastors?
Go and sleep oga.

deji17:
You are right. Unfortunately, Nigerians are just very loud and lousy people. Nigerians are even minorities in the countries they run to. Indians, Chinese, and even philipinos have higher migration rate, but you don't see them making useless noise like we do. Quite unfortunate the character of our people. They will be behaving like children that has never been exposed to wealth

ahiboilandgas:
be calming down we are talking of people doing well .not some person on 30k salary .this boy have moved from face me I slap you to lekki while japarian are move from care home to janitor

Samunique:
Try read my post once again, I didn't ask anybody who wish to not to Japan, but they should stop destroying their homes from outside, so that when jungle is matured they'll have where to run to.

Look at what happened in Ukraine, was anybody expecting it ?

Anything can happen at anytime, no place like home bro !!!

phemmyfour:
We are talking about better economy, security and basic amenities 24/7. All you have in mind is obeying traffic light. That's the least of the worries of an average Nigerian

Samunique:
Bro shed more light on this picture.

Is it real ?

Samunique:
I've watched with amazement and bewilderment how the social media nairaland inclusive, have been filled with the stories of leaving Nigeria to other countries with the impression that, once they get there their problems are over. I think this big fat lie will hunt, and may destroy our future generations if nothing is done about it.

1. They believe once you leave the shores of this country, you have nothing to worry about again bcs automatic success is now guaranteed. If this is true, what happens to many Nigerians that are now stranded after so many years abroad ? Is the system over there a contributory factor as well

2. Government is bad !
Yes Nigerian government is very bad, if not the worst in the whole world. But then, who is the government, isn't it you and I ? Are we forgetting that a government is a product of the society and the reflection of its people ?
If the government is bad, then we're bad as a people !

This very generation of Nigerian youths is worse than the current leaders of the pass/outgoing generation they're blaming.

At least, our current leaders did not practice Yahoo Yahoo, Yahoo plus, they did not steal women pants for money ritual, they didn't engage in kidnapping for quick money etc in their time. But this generation does and even far worst things. I'm not in anyway exhonorating them bcs they have really messed up this country. But this generation is now worst than them.

Yes our pass and current leaders steal our collective wealth ? They did/do so bcs we allow them to, based on ethic, tribal and religious sentiments. In fact continuous stealing is only possible in the society of thieves and robbers. If all we could produce as leaders are thieves and looters, then that's who we all are as a people.

These same people that are preaching "JAPA" now, will never obey a simple traffic rule while in Nigeria, but they're there now throw every kind of stone against their own country.
Ask them what's their own contribution back home towards nation building.

Did they ever obey simple traffic rule?

What about paying their taxes, what was their contribution to social development and services etc ?

These things and more they're willingly do over there bcs they know that the
[b]the sicitzens of those countries make law and systems to work not even the governments, and they cannot hid under a finger. Remove the law and oder over there, and see them showing their true colours.

Lastly, I think there are some external forces behind this sudden propaganda of japa. I know Nigeria is at it worst state since it started as a nation, but if we all run away, who will rescue and build it, where would we run back to when the jungle is matured outside ?

Nations are built by their citizens.

And for those of you outside Nigeria whose job now is to mock and denigrate the country, remember your people are still leaving here.

Some are even going as far as mocking God, the two major religions, saying all manner of things against the church, mosque etc. For your information, Nigerians have always been religious, it's in our DNA. There's a time Nigeria was working, our currency was better than the British pounds. My mother's senior brothers who schooled in the UK came back to Nigeria to work, and that didn't make people less religious.

Maybe you forgot, I will remind some of you that, some of your parents wouldn't have been educated but for the help the church and missionary Schools .

https://www.nairaland.com/7495060/why-nigerians-less-religious-when/2

Build, don't destroy the Nation


Nlpf mod, DisGuy, justwise, seun, lalasticlala and co

Samunique:
Thanks for this sensible post !!!

99% of the commenters are busy abusing and calling me all manner of names, as if I discouraged anyone from Japan.

Maybe they didn't bother reading the op before committing.

Samunique:
At least charity begins at home they say !

Can you disobey traffic rules over there ?

Desusi:
Its unfortunate that almost every youth you meet would be discussing how they can Japa.Over there in abroad is another level of challenges and troubles.The believe is that money is there in abroad just mention it Belgium, Germany, Britain, France, Netherlands just to mention a few.As for America its the last bus stop of every struggler.
This was what made me left my lucrative job in Nigeria and traveled to Belgium. At that time, l paid #4,000. My believe is that within a week,l will get that money. The first day, l would go out to look for work,l met a large numbers of Nigerians at a spot hawking for labourer's job.These are graduates in different fields of human endeavors. To start with, they were some of them more giants than me.We would struggle to hustle for labourer's job.At the end of the day,l got one.l was very happy,though the work was a tedious one.l was paid 4500 Belgium fund.First l sight a great relief thinking l have got $4500.l went to where they are selling tokunbo cars.The prices sent terror to my bone. The cheapest by then, was 90,000belgium fund. Whereas by then in Nigeria a good tokunbo is between 150k to 300k.
I decided to go and eat first,they asked me,what would l eat.l ordered for a plate of rice.ln Nigeria an expensive plate of rice by then was #200.By the time l would paid for my plate of rice,behold, it was 3500 Belgium fund. Surprise! Surprise!! Surprise!!! These are just among the surprises awaiting japa Nigerians. Doubt me at your perils.

Samunique:
And you think we should continue in that path ?

shegzhkn:
And how is that going ? and that is for ur question.

Every generation has an obligation to the next generation, they've clearly failed but the question is - do you want to fail the next ?

Angelfrost:
How did the people in USA become this way??!

Were they born this way or were Africans and Nigerians created this way?!!

Such words and arguments like yours make me laugh!

Great leaders make great nations even out of the worst of people!


Akwa-Ibom became the cleanest state in Nigeria and one of the cleanest in West Africa not because the people all had a general sanitation epiphany out of the blues... Nope, a leader arose that saw the need for change, channeled efforts and resources to achieve this, convinced his people to walk the path, and it happened.

Waiting for sheep to lead themselves will never work please...!

Quit throwing blames at a rudderless and badly led people... If people could lead themselves, then why do we need to elect leaders?!!

So, point of correction:

If you take the leaders in today's Japan and replace them with those in Nigeria and vice versa, Nigeria will become a world power while Japan will become a third world nation!

teepain:
Your statement in bold fonts refers. No need to educate them on that, let them continue to do that. When the consequences come, they will realize their folly.

By the Grace of God, some of us have traveled and are still traveling without throwing mud at our home country.

People can travel without mudslinging their country of birth. Nigerian leaders haven't particularly done well but have the citizens been better behaved?

If you have any relative schooling in the UK now ask them how Nigerians are misbehaving right now. My young cousin was telling me how some Nigerians who just got to the UK made a care agency to lose its clients because some Nigerians would go to care homes with Alcohol for the night. No sense of professionalism.

Samunique:
At least, they should leave and stay there in peace, not painting the nation black after they left. If you destroy your home who will build it for you ?

MimiSheWrote:
Nice one @OP

It takes way more than just the government to advance a nation. real development starts with the actual people, it starts with you and me.

The key is actually the general mentality.

See, If you find a way to swap every single person in the United States with everyone in Nigeria: in just a quarter century.. Nigeria would be way better that this present U.S.A, and the U.S.A as we know it now would automatically decline and reverse to a devoloping 3rd world country.

Samunique:
Thanks bro, you're one the few people that understand the message of the op.

Good bless you !

Tenshades:
Talking down on something that is not beneficial to one's growth/success after one has moved on to something better doesn't make any sense.

That's why I gave the ex narrative as an example.