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Trustworthiness:
That is the way they are wired by God. And that is why men are to be the head in the house.

So in Islam, the reason why Allah has men as head of house is because Allah intentionally made women lesser in intelligence than the men?

That's a complete departure from the narrative given by the God of Israel though.

gard9ner:
He isn’t female, Kobojunkie is stupid boy with an undeveloped brain, if you doubt me track his posts and comments, from his always attacking, illogical and invading comments he is even the one who needs mental help.

Always looking for arguments, I remember in one certain thread 2yrs ago, someone even laid curses on him and threatened to harm him physically. I pray they don’t harm him one day. People should just ignore the fool, watch his next actions now as I’ve given him small relevance.

@bold:

A highly charged emotional response. Want to harm a virtual person because 'you' don't agree with his/her views?

And you thinking it means sense that you are 'praying they don't harm him one day'? Like you think there is merit in harming someone you don't agree with online?

Sighs.

shantti:
Lol, u wish😂😂😂😂😂
For u to even admit that women burst the bubble immediately and that men tolerate themselves means the op is damn right.
Tolerance is logical while bursting the bubble without thinking is an emotional behavior. But here u are from a sentimental and emotional point of view saying that tolerance is illogical while acting without thinking (bursting the bubble) is logical. Come on, u know u are wrong. Like, from the depth of your heart, u know u are not actually correct.


But wait, did u said that men envy each other and that women don't, 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. This is the funniest effort I've seen that tries to twist the truth. Women that are synonymous with envy. I bet u, let your younger sister marry before u, u will poison her if u get the chance. Yes, ur gender are that envious. In fact, thousands of studies have even be made in this regard of females being very envious being, behold are some of them.

Notes.
1) Check my gender first
2) Read my comment again, i never said women are not envious etc
3)I insisted that on few men tolerate from the group not all men from the group, hence the person bearing the burden.
In principle one man does something other men claims the glory, same with inventions and discoveries, one man does it millions of other men that spend most of their time and resources with their like minded (women) claims the glory, saying after all we re all men.
But the irony of it, is that from a woman's frame of reference they see them( creative men, mostly Asperger's) as feminine men and not the masculine men they crave, most men that absorb others bad character are not exertive in nature. I don't have to go deeper it's a complex topic, and has been, since the earliest time of biological evolution.

And finally, since you claim you re logical what is the benefit of encouraging bad behavior in the name of tolerating, and a logical reason why saving time and resources as i mentioned, that gives peace of mind illogical to you.

ERlS:
Attention seeking and since nairaland is an echo chamber for misogynists, they want validation.

I'll never understand expending so much energy on something you supposedly hate. If i hate something, it simply doesn't exist to me.

@bold

Hate is a very strong emotion so let them rant away.

All we pray is that they find healing to rid them of the hate or stay away from women (which they won't).

A logical response to something you don't like is 'indifference'.

Hate is too invested an emotion.

Supersymetry:
Notes.
1) Check my gender first
2) Read my comment again, i never said women are not envious etc
3)I insisted that on few men tolerate from the group not all men from the group, hence the person bearing the burden.
In principle one man does something other men claims the glory, same with inventions and discoveries, one man does it millions of other men that spend most of their time and resources with their like minded (women) claims the glory, saying after all we re all men.
But the irony of it, is that from a woman's frame of reference they see them( creative men, mostly Asperger's) as feminine men and not the masculine men they crave, most men that absorb others bad character are not exertive in nature. I don't have to go deeper it's a complex topic, and has been, since the earliest time of biological evolution.

And finally, since you claim you re logical what is the benefit of encouraging bad behavior in the name of tolerating, and a logical reason why saving time and resources as i mentioned, that gives peace of mind illogical to you.

U have totally shifted the goal post
I have many questions
How did u come to the conclusion that when men live together without issues, they are encouraging bad behavior. Where did this bad behavior emanante from. Can u give me a concrete evidence of this.

olaeffect:
I attended a human capital management session recently.
And we were given a new angle to managing problematic subordinates.

Instead of looking at maverick and misfits from the angle of "what is wrong with you?" We were trained on how to start looking at them from the angle of "What happened to you?"

You see, most people have gone through so much negativity that they are not even aware that they have been molded very wrongly.
They actually don't really know the difference between wrong, right, and ideal.

Unfortunately, with my experience of working with many people, I have come to realize that this misfits and mavericks cut across both gender.

Are you sure it is not 10% males and 90% females?

Nice post especially second paragraph.

Gerrard59:
In my opinion, that guy did not make any sense. I have come across hard-working and well-cultured ladies who contribute immensely to themselves, their families and the workplace. I discussed with them frequently, so when he was told to change his environment, it was actually good advice. Honestly, I am proud of how my parents brought my siblings and me up because we no fit reason like this. There will always be the good and bad, handsome and ugly, and logical and illogical people in society. That said, I don't consider the average Nigerian man to be intelligent. Nigeria is a case study of how a country is when governed by unintelligent men, so the braggadocio that men are inventors and built successful societies does not apply to Nigerian men. Na white and East Asian men get those appellations. Interestingly, you would never see them make mouth o.

I think the major issue with these Ndi alfa meils is poverty because if na public education, I and my siblings and even these ladies I know all passed through the public education system. Hasty generalisations are not the right ways to look at issues holistically. On the other hand, Ndi feminists have their own faults, and one of the reasons alfa meilism rose is because of the extremism of Ndi feminism

I am curious change is environment to where ?? lekki, magodo or banana island.

Reading your comment i want to give you the benefit of doubt you don't understand the angle OP is coming from, you are just in an haste play the role of a white knight

Lemme give an instance, if a guy and a lady happens to find themselves in a terrible situation, the possibility the gurl will spend her time crying, confused and nagging about the problem is 90% while
If a guy finds himself in that situation the possibility he is exploring every angle for an immediate solution is 95%.

and i total disagree with you, Nigeria problem has nothing to do with "unintelligent" as you it, rather the issue is those we elect are "RULERS" not "LEADERS" take your time to ponder

aestake:
Men commit those crimes to please you.

How logical!

DIVINEEVIDENCE:
Look, I used to fawn around women until I caught women I respected and could swear for, in fornication and adultery, married and unmarried.

Today, I've developed a total blank attitude to women.

No woman fazes me again, beautiful, endowed, rich, homely or whatever.

I can look any woman straight in the eye and call her bluff.

I deal with them on a purely formal level and anyone who's developing feelings for me does so at her own peril.

I put up a post the other day seeking to know how one can identify a woman who will never cheat in marriage.

This is one information I need to get hold of to even consider marriage.

Op cited an example of the reckless Nekedepoly girl.

Check out reels, Instagram posts and posts on virtually any picture/video sharing site.

Its usually women in semi/total unclothedness.

How can you respect such characters?

@emboldened
Prior to this discovery, if someone had told you how much of a hoè women can be and how easily it is for it to happen when the opportunity is right, you wouldn't have believed. You might have probably thought the person was just a bitter person, a misogynist, or, at best, a misguided fellow with little experience out there. You might have even thought him to be a loser who cannot get quality women.

"... women I respect and could swear for..."

Lol. This where most men get deceived and carried away. Men always look at something in a particular woman that is deemed demure, modest, religious and conservative and then assume she is a good girl that will never do so so so and so. When a guy tells these men how much of a hoè women can be, they remember the girls they assume are good girls and then strongly disagree with the guy. They may even verbally attack the guy on a personal level because they find his take morally reprehensible.

That being said, only naive men would swear and vouch for a woman in this regard. We do not really know the women in our lives and of our acquaintance as much as think we do. When we open the skeletons in their cupboards, we will be shocked, that I guarantee. Unfortunately, many men will never find out.

Our distant ancestors created patriarchal societies. These societies and the families in it were traditional and conservative. This means they brought up their daughters with strict traditional and conservative values, yet when these men married, they still indulged in serious mate guarding. Even Kings and Princes castrated men to keep a watch on their wives. Did they know something that we don't?

I don't hate women neither do I love them, but I understand them and make the best decisions for myself based on my understanding. I still get along with them, but nothing like romantic love, being Mr. Nice, or developing emotional attachment. Good day.

pocohantas:
And who cares? Are you among the men that will buy Range Rover for babes next week? So?? Please knock yourself out!

The fact that you guys always expect ladies to come start arguing with you. Can’t be me anymore o. Time that I will use to massage the ego of a provider ancestor. God abeg o!

Out of 20 range Rover expectants like you. At least 17 of you, will be used for money rituals and the remaining 3 are ladies in there prime . Hope you can deal with that

gard9ner:
Chocolate, why are you so pained huh? That’s exactly what the poor guy is saying, everything you spewed reeks of emotions, nothing makes a person sound weaker and unintelligent as “emotional” expression void of appeal to pathos.

You’re out of line, no one is talking about crimes, besides no particular gender has the monopoly of crime ok; women rob, kidnap, rape and brutally assault men and other women alike, pls don’t insult me just find the pony. It’s a social issue and the pendulum of social opinion swings left and right.

If it occurred to you that no one has the monopoly of crime, didn't it occur to you & the OP that no one has the monopoly of airheadness on/offline?

So now she pointed an issue that men are more culpable of, you suddenly remember it is a social issue?

Men stealing, kidnapping, swindling and robbing are social issues but women selling their bodies on/offline are not social issues?

Very logical!

aestake:
If I am a woman, why would I go committing crimes when the loots get to me?

Who is more logical in this scenario:

1. A person who goes to commit crimes to please another and risks death, jail term, injuries, social alienation etc.

2. A person who waits for the loot in their comfort/so not comfort zone?

pocohantas:
Lol. You don’t want to be treated like dirt? You guys don’t like women as you have stated on this thread. Why should it matter how I treat your kind? No, I don’t need anything. YOU WILL REMAIN DIRT TO ME.

The problem with most of you, is that you always see things from the negative view. Op made a thread and complained about what he noticed about women. You could tell he is not happy about this. He would likely prefer to have a better relationship with women. If you disagree with his claims, You could have stated it here and backed it up with facts. The ultimate goal of the romance section of nairaland, is to improve the relationship between men and women. It is not a battle ground for both gender

Berankis:
The truth is... Women are what they are and nothing can change them. It's the way God has designed them to reason and function, if not, we won't have a world. If they were designed to reason and act like men, they won't have children most times or take of them like they do. Can a man breastfeed a baby? I am sure a man will be irritated if his baby accidentally puts it's mouth on a man's nipple, because we aren't designed to function that way.
Let's learn to accept and respect them for whom and what they are - women. Life would be alot easier for us.

Our society also plays a key role in this. Women from other climes are not exactly like this

shantti:
U have totally shifted the goal post
I have many questions
How did u come to the conclusion that when men live together without issues, they are encouraging bad behavior. Where did this bad behavior emanante from. Can u give me a concrete evidence of this.

You haven't answered my question but you are asking me questions,

You can only deceive a woman that men live together without issues not a man.
Men are only good at pretending all is well. Many men have bad character same with women, but men's bad character gets reinforced due to natural operand conditioning, without punishing a bad character it gets amplified, same way men tolerate bad character from women/girls, hence amplifying it without knowing, and letter complain about it though by different men at different times but collectively as a group.
In principle women don't tolerate bad character from women and men, but only from a man they desire, hence the reason it confuses people like u.

Most men claim that women don't engage in meaning conversation, but it's the same with men, but only that the issue changed axis, eg most men talk about sex, women, foothball, for most men ... how to make money ( because the society conditioned them to do so) and won't go deeper in the discussion but how to make money through job,yahoo and other crimes, or other conventional method with nothing creative, move to innovative approach, most men will freeze like most women, tall about philosophy they will attack you, talk about future, science and technology you will be seen as a mad man, the list goes on and on,

The reality is that a man that spends most of his time talking about soccer which is like an advance gossiping will hate on women gossiping about celebrities, two of them are different forms of entertainment.
I bet that most men claiming to have the ability for meaning conversation can't stay for ten minutes to discuss the solution to the problems facing Africa and humanity, not to talk of origin of time, entropy, technological singularity, intelligence amplification etc.

iammolise:
Balance is just the key to everything, even to avert SIN. You are on point with your claims about women, they think from an emotional perspective and that's natural as they're wired that way, personally I call them "the emotional box", they're designed to give care and emotional support to men generally. With all these information you have about women which is POWERFUL if you ask me, I'd urge you to be open minded about it all and use this intelligence as a tool to find a woman that is right for you rather than continue seeing it from a malicious perspective. From what I've read you're already at the boiling point, what you need is therapy brother, you need gradual rehab, and not just any councilor but one whose specialty is relationship and marriage, I would recommend you tune in to 102.3 max fm 10pm by tomorrow night(The love doctor show), call him and talk to him, he's also on Instagram & Fb (@Daniel Akpata on radio) he might help you but truly only you can help yourself, coz no matter what anyone advices you it's still up to you to follow their advice or follow yours.

Men are told many times how they need to work hard and do many things to be a better and more valuable men. Why are you telli g men to accept the fact that women can't reason logically ? How do cope with having a life partner that does not see the need to improve ?

DJBIGGY:
You have tendencies to be one.... You just have to understand and accept them for who they are and devise ways to deal with a woman. Don't ever use logic on them. It's a waste of time and energy

Logic is what drives the world. Logic is essential for peaceful cohabitation. We should be talking about how our women can improve on this

sukkot:
truth of the matter is all nigerian men and women are emotional insane kids. try driving in nigeria and you soon get to find out why the society does not work. a bunch of aggressive emotional retards. the whole lot of them. male and female. whats logical in looting your whole country and dumping the money in european banks .

Thats another important angle

Gerrard59:
White and Asian men oo

This braggadocio by black men claiming to be alfa meils dey always burst my head.

Gerrard59:
In my opinion, that guy did not make any sense. I have come across hard-working and well-cultured ladies who contribute immensely to themselves, their families and the workplace. I discussed with them frequently, so when he was told to change his environment, it was actually good advice. Honestly, I am proud of how my parents brought my siblings and me up because we no fit reason like this. There will always be the good and bad, handsome and ugly, and logical and illogical people in society. That said, I don't consider the average Nigerian man to be intelligent. Nigeria is a case study of how a country is when governed by unintelligent men, so the braggadocio that men are inventors and built successful societies does not apply to Nigerian men. Na white and East Asian men get those appellations. Interestingly, you would never see them make mouth o.

I think the major issue with these Ndi alfa meils is poverty because if na public education, I and my siblings and even these ladies I know all passed through the public education system. Hasty generalisations are not the right ways to look at issues holistically. On the other hand, Ndi feminists have their own faults, and one of the reasons alfa meilism rose is because of the extremism of Ndi feminism

Well said.

9japride:
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I don't agree with you. Male and female have different ways they react to things. It's natural and there is nothing bad about it. Women have their own special gifts and men don't have it. It's not about upbringing. Just like in the animal world, male and female behave differently. Humans are just higher animals.

Human are both product of nature and upbringing. The upbringing also influences how they act and reason

Just seeing this post, and I hope you see my reply, you are mixing both intelligence and emotions they are different, from your post it shows that you are also very emotional and you are lashing out, recent research had shown that no gender is more emotional than the other, according to psychology there's the nature and nuture factor, women naturally tend to express the positive emotions such as happiness, sadness, empathy in order to fit their roles as caregivers whereas the men tend to express the negative emotions such as anger, pride, stubbornness in order to fit their roles as protectors and providers. Then we have the nuture factor which is how both genders were raised, any person who behaves the way they do, is a product of their family, community and how they were raised.
For the fact that you used the nekede polytechnic girl as your example of expressing the female gender shows that you are also not intelligent. And from my little knowledge of psychology you are also very emotional and you have allowed the negative emotions I mentioned to becloud your reasoning and as such had lumped all women as the same.
Please change your location I don't know where you guys always see these kinds of girls, where I am, there are highly cerebral girls, when you spend all your time on tiktok, Instagram and Facebook, why won't you see such shallow people, go to professional sites and see young cerebral Nigerian girls making waves. If you don't change your reasoning this negative emotions if not in check will grow into deep seated hatred, we don't want a Nigerian Ted Bungdy.

Lilipo:
@poster,

I haven't read other responses to this only because i wanted to give an unbiased opinion.

Firstly, I commend your courage to speak up and speak out - this is not very common especially amongst men.

My response to your comment is this - maybe you should try being open minded. To be honest, like yourself, it was the opposite for me as being a lady, I always thought men were myopic and like you wasn't sure I wanted to get married or even have a boyfriend because of this. It wasn't until I expanded my network, moved across states and made more male friends that my views changed. I realised I thought the way I did because of the 'small circle' I interacted with which 'locked up' my mind.

My suggestion is
1. Try to be open minded - if you come across any female, give them the benefit of doubt that they are sensible until they prove otherwise.
2. Expand your network - make female friends near and far, from all parts of the country and even world, if you can. You'll be amazed.
3. Learn to listen - you'll be surprised at what insight you get when you 'actually' listen.

Just as you suggest that women are shallow minded, there are also males that are similar. No gender is superior to each other as each brings different parts to the table which makes the world an interesting place to live in. No matter how you see it, we need each other.

I wish you well - oh and by the way. I am now happily married

Same here, the problem with these guys is that their circle is small, and they tend to lump all women as the same for the fact that he mixed intelligence and emotions together also shows his level of reasoning, a lot of people are products of their environment when as a guy all his associates are red pliers and screw driver's why would he not reason the way they do.

Creativity22:
Human are both product of nature and upbringing. The upbringing also influences how they act and reason

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Yes to some extent but it can't change the genetic nature of a female species. Male species are totally different from females, that's the way it is.

Supersymetry:
You haven't answered my question but you are asking me questions,

You can only deceive a woman that men live together without issues not a man.
Men are only good at pretending all is well. Many men have bad character same with women, but men's bad character gets reinforced due to natural operand conditioning, without punishing a bad character it gets amplified, same way men tolerate bad character from women/girls, hence amplifying it without knowing, and letter complain about it though by different men at different times but collectively as a group.
In principle women don't tolerate bad character from women and men, but only from a man they desire, hence the reason it confuses people like u.

Most men claim that women don't engage in meaning conversation, but it's the same with men, but only that the issue changed axis, eg most men talk about sex, women, foothball, for most men ... how to make money ( because the society conditioned them to do so) and won't go deeper in the discussion but how to make money through job,yahoo and other crimes, or other conventional method with nothing creative, move to innovative approach, most men will freeze like most women, tall about philosophy they will attack you, talk about future, science and technology you will be seen as a mad man, the list goes on and on,

The reality is that a man that spends most of his time talking about soccer which is like an advance gossiping will hate on women gossiping about celebrities, two of them are different forms of entertainment.
I bet that most men claiming to have the ability for meaning conversation can't stay for ten minutes to discuss the solution to the problems facing Africa and humanity, not to talk of origin of time, entropy, technological singularity, intelligence amplification etc.

I asked u the question cos u were making a baseless assumption. On the contrary all u wrote in the first paragraphs only applies to women but they aren't intelligent enough to tolerate themselves. I am a man who has lived with a fellow man during my school day and during my NYSC, I can bodly tell u that the only time we had issues was when our girlfriends lived with us, so for what benefit would you peddle a lie that men pretends. Pretends to what end, pretend to impress who. Let me tell u this, men value their peace, if they are in an environment where their peace of mind is threatened, they simply walk away, yes it's in our nature. One of the jargons you typed was this men's bad character gets reinforced due to natural operand conditioning,. What the Bleep is this? Why do u like to make baseless assumptions?

I like how you did the cherry picking. So you haven't seen men discuss politics, history, inventions, climate change, it is so common. Why didn't u go ahead to expose what women typically discuss, zee world, Brazilian wig, BBL, fake lives, so just cherry picked to suit ur stupid narrative.

Your third paragraph is trash cos it reeks of sentimentalism, yes men discuss football, but they also engage in intelligent conversations unlike women who only rubbish that has no relevant to humanity.

All your writeup are baseless accusations on d male gender. So many silly assumptions

reddingtonblack:
I am curious change is environment to where ?? lekki, magodo or banana island.

Reading your comment i want to give you the benefit of doubt you don't understand the angle OP is coming from, you are just in an haste play the role of a white knight

Lemme give an instance, if a guy and a lady happens to find themselves in a terrible situation, the possibility the gurl will spend her time crying, confused and nagging about the problem is 90% while
If a guy finds himself in that situation the possibility he is exploring every angle for an immediate solution is 95%.

and i total disagree with you, Nigeria problem has nothing to do with "unintelligent" as you it, rather the issue is those we elect are "RULERS" not "LEADERS" take your time to ponder

You only gave an example of how women and men react to threatening situation and fear, but this is because women are weaker and less confident at attacking.
Have you compared how different gender respond to other emotions

I quite understand your frustration with women's illogical faculty. I was in your shoes years ago and was feeling if not more of what you're going through.

I am a Christian, so I embibed the Biblical principles of treating fellow humans:
Love, tolerance, patience, kindness, been considerate, and lots more.

It worked for me just fine.

Women are just to us what we are to them. In other words, we feed them similar emotions if not same the emotions they place in us.

You may try prayers (if you believe in it) and a lot of mental tolerance to soar above this odd.

gard9ner:
My brother, honestly you’re an original, as you can see I created this account now just to comment, I deactivated my account last year but I couldn’t resist your discussion.

Your topic is deeper than most people realise, I’ve so much I want to pour out but let me hold my peace. Just know you’re not alone and nothing is wrong with you. I’ve so many stories too as I practically grew up surrounded and still surrounded by woman. Bro, a lot of people will take it personal if I share my many stories but I just want to tell you that God almighty created them for a purpose, I’ve read some very beautiful comments here, including the guy that buttressed how only emotional people can succeed in health and child care, that was insightful.

Trust me when I say they are full of it, I lost some amount of money I don’t want to mention because of my own mother! In another example I lost a court case with my tenant who owes me over half a million because my mom went behind me to beg the tenant who was already losing the case and even dashed the simp some money to park out, his lawyer took advantage of my mom, recorded her and used her “good intention” against me with other lies, I was so mad that I almost told her to leave my house. I’m sure that someone will call it emotional intelligence from her but you haven’t heard the full story and it isn’t as it seems. Back in school I dated a girl who all her problem was how to pierce her body and draw tattoos which I never argued, I told her it will look great on her, she smiled and gave me whatever I asked for, but alas before she graduated she was in regrets as the inks are permanent. I can go on and on but the truth is come hell come high water we must live with them; so bro, do what you can, don’t hate them just live peaceably with them by agreeing to any arguments they pose as long as it doesn’t affect your goals in life. Smile and tell them that they are doing well when it’s too late and they run to you crying be a shoulder to lean on without saying much, this is their nature and we must learn to grow with it (I mean find our own unique way to deal or adapt with them).

You are a man full of wisdom. I respect you

shantti:
I asked u the question cos u were making a baseless assumption. On the contrary all u wrote in the first paragraphs only applies to women but the aren't intelligent enough to tolerate themselves. I am a man who has lived with a fellow man during my school day and during my NYSC, I can bodly tell u that the only time we had issues was when our girlfriends lived with us, so for what benefit would you peddle a lie that men pretends. Pretends to what end, pretend to impress who. Let me tell u this, men value their peace, if there are in an environment where their peace of mind is threatened, they simply walk away, yeas it's in our nature. One of the jargons you typed was this men's bad character gets reinforced due to natural operand conditioning,. What the Bleep is this? Why do u like to make baseless assumptions?

I like how you did the cherry picking. So you haven't seen men discuss politics, history, inventions, climate change, it is so common. Why didn't u go ahead to expose what women typically discuss, zee world, Brazilian wig, BBL, fake lives, so just cherry picked to suit ur stupid narrative.

Your third paragraph is trash cos it reeks of sentimentalism, yes men discuss football, but they also engage in intelligent conversations unlike women who only rubbish that has no relevant to humanity.

All your writeup are baseless accusations on d male gender. So many silly assumptions

You are not even logical enough to engage me, absorbing bad character don't make you logical but it seems you don't know the meaning of logic, and from every indication you are the type of men that stress other.
If you talk about tolerance its the lower animals that tolerate the most , eg you ants, non primate Mammals like sheep, or you mean men tolerate each other more than ants or sheep

Sixfeetbelle:
He only raised one point. One. The same regurgitated, over-emphasised, over-analysed, beaten, overflogged, over-assessed point. Far be it from the male gender to discuss women issues and not delve into our sexuality (female liberation).


God forbid they fight for women's rights to education or politics or be even against FGM and child marriages.

Please are women bared from attending tertiary institution or joining politics in nigeria ? This is actually what the op is talking about. You just want to oppose and argue without actually thinking over it.

shantti:
I asked u the question cos u were making a baseless assumption. On the contrary all u wrote in the first paragraphs only applies to women but they aren't intelligent enough to tolerate themselves. I am a man who has lived with a fellow man during my school day and during my NYSC, I can bodly tell u that the only time we had issues was when our girlfriends lived with us, so for what benefit would you peddle a lie that men pretends. Pretends to what end, pretend to impress who. Let me tell u this, men value their peace, if they are in an environment where their peace of mind is threatened, they simply walk away, yes it's in our nature. One of the jargons you typed was this men's bad character gets reinforced due to natural operand conditioning,. What the Bleep is this? Why do u like to make baseless assumptions?

I like how you did the cherry picking. So you haven't seen men discuss politics, history, inventions, climate change, it is so common. Why didn't u go ahead to expose what women typically discuss, zee world, Brazilian wig, BBL, fake lives, so just cherry picked to suit ur stupid narrative.

Your third paragraph is trash cos it reeks of sentimentalism, yes men discuss football, but they also engage in intelligent conversations unlike women who only rubbish that has no relevant to humanity.

All your writeup are baseless accusations on d male gender. So many silly assumptions

Woman also engage in politics, climate change, history, inventions, the issue is how often, how far can you go with the discussion, and how serious are you about it.

Supersymetry:
You are not even logical enough to engage me, absorbing bad character don't make you logical but it seems you don't know the meaning of logic, and from every indication you are the type of men that stress other.
If you talk about tolerance its the lower animals that tolerate the most , eg you ants, non primate Mammals like sheep, or you mean men tolerate each other more than ants or sheep

On the contrary, u are the illogical one, I proved all your assertion wrong, and you resorted to accusing me of being illogical, accusing me of stressing other men. A typical feminine behavior. When you are ready to be logical enough l, we can have a diplomatic conversation.