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Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by Heroicvic(m): 7:57am On Mar 31, 2023 |
jaephoenix: Can't even wrapped my head around what you said Can you explain in English please? |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:01am On Mar 31, 2023 |
Heroicvic: Do you TRUTHFULLY want to know the answer to the question? |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by Heroicvic(m): 8:02am On Mar 31, 2023 |
jaephoenix: I'm aware |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by Heroicvic(m): 8:03am On Mar 31, 2023 |
peter0071: What's your point |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by Heroicvic(m): 8:08am On Mar 31, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: I'm raised in deeper life, you might have heard the name before. I'm not here to condemn or talk down any religion But to be honest, it's really confusing Sometimes when I listen to Muslim sermon that contradict what I was thought growing up I'm disturbed Jw are christain with different opinion about the bible too Even in Islam there are two categories of people The split between the two main sects within Islam goes back some 1,400 years. Though the two main sects within Islam, Sunni and Shia, agree on most of the fundamental beliefs and practices of Islam, a bitter split between the two goes back some 14 centuries. Everything is so confusing tbh |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by Heroicvic(m): 8:10am On Mar 31, 2023 |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by ifeade69f: 10:47am On Mar 31, 2023 |
Science doesn't believe we were createdScience doesn't believe we were created... |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by peter0071(m): 10:47am On Mar 31, 2023 |
point is... you cant make definitions on unstable science over a stable belief system of a people. God exist. Believe it or not! Heroicvic: |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by Aemmyjah(m): 10:56am On Mar 31, 2023 |
God is regarded as the Supreme being, the Grand Creator andthe highest personality and the one who is responsible for the creation of life and the universe and everything that sustains it. Now, let us leave scripture or pretend there is no scripture Does everything in the natural world including life and earth give proof to an intelligent designer (God) or they came by accident? |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:49am On Mar 31, 2023 |
Heroicvic: I was raised a Muslim too but then your mind need to be directed to the right questions that will lead to a definite answer: What comes to mind when your hear the title "GOD"? Well that title connotes SUPREME BEING which means out of all those living both physical and spiritual there must be one who is supreme. If you agree with that then the next question: What do we expect from the one who is supreme? Note that the supreme being is nobody's family so it makes no sense expecting the supreme being to be partial in giving or justice. The supreme being must be everyone's father {Matthew 6:9} and His hands supposed to satisfy the needs of both the good and bad ones in our midst! Matthew 5:45 So if you find any religion where worshipers are asking for favour regarding what supposed to be distributed evenly among the inhabitants of the earth then know that such a god can't be the supreme for it's partial. Next is what exactly do we expect from the one who is SUPREME? Well the supreme being must ensure that love, joy and peace reigns among all His worshipers just as a good ruler will ensure the same thing. Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3 compare to John 13:34-35 Why this? It's because the supreme being should be able to set standards that all His worshipers will be united as one {John 17:22} having the same line of thought {1Corinthians 1:10} this is what those who wants to get closer to the supreme being need to see {Matthew 5:14-16} as the fine WORKS (FRUIT) of FAITH in pure worship! Matthew 7:16-18 So this are the attributes of the FRUIT expected of pure worship under the supreme being: LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL! Galatians 5:22-23 As for all other religions that's false the works of flesh won't allow them produce what is expected of the supreme being since the spirit of the true God is not in their midst. So unlike pure worship where the spirit of God is helping imperfect humans to work together and bring out the best performance {James 2:18-26} the flesh will become a hindrance to false religions and they will only produce routine fruit {Matthew 7:16-18} even though they want to do what is right as worshipers of God! Galatians 5:19-21 |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by Kobojunkie: 3:07pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
Heroicvic:1. I am not of the religion of Christianity but instead a follower of Jesus Christ, God's Truth and Law(National Constitution) in God's Special Nation of Priests- Exodus 19 vs 6 - aka the Kingdom of God. 2. Well, your Christian pastors and mogs probably fed you tales of how holiness has to do with the keeping of moral laws. I am afraid that is far from the Truth of God in the Kingdom of God. Holiness in the Kingdom of God instead has to do with the living of one's life in direct compliance with the teachings and commandments Jesus Christ who happens to be the embodiment of God's Constitution and Truth. So, unless you are telling me that all those Muslims in your community are not oniy born-again but they also live their lives in direct submission and obedience to the almost 100 commandments and teachings which constitute God's Law and Truth aka the Gospel of Jesus Christ, I suggest you go back to reading through the 4 Gospels in order to educate yourself on what Holiness is indeed about. 3. According to the Gospel teachings of Jesus Christ, only one who is born-again can enter into the Kingdom of God where Heaven and Hell are end destinations. So, based on that, my first question to you would be whether or not the Muslims in your community are born-again or not? |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 5:38pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
peter0071:What's your evidence |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 5:40pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
Heroicvic:Again I warn you, bro. You're thinking outside your religious box, and it won't be long before you start thinking the 'unthinkable'. Pun intended |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 5:43pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
peter0071:Science is growing, I admit. And it always admits its wrong very quickly, unlike religion that says its always right, and you shouldn't use your head. And no, science or history never stated, the red sea was parted, nor the earth once stopped rotating nor went anticlockwise. Where do you get your science news bro? 1 Like |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 5:44pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:JW is filled with deception and lies |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by Kobojunkie: 5:52pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
Heroicvic:1. Did you not consider your own OP? Heroicvic:2. No! 3. NO! In all, rather than ask random strangers of these things, it is still best to read the book for yourself. |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 5:55pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
Heroicvic:Ok. Back in the ancient days, probably prehistoric days, man didn't understand how phenomena(lightning, fertility, droughts etc) and structures(mountains, rivers etc) were made, so they decided it must have been made by some all powerful being. They called it many names. Some even created gods for each of them, like Ra, Aphrodite etc. Science improved and found out how these phenomena and structures came up, and most importantly how we came about, though its not very sure about the man came on the scene. Even so, some religions, especially the Abrahamic ones(christianity, Islam, Judaism) still persist and try to stay relevant by insisting their own gods made these happen. But religion is changing, they are starting to accept that the bible lied. For example, Catholics accept the evolution theory, and even the Big Bang(actually their priest theorized it), and in the next century or so, religion would completely change or be phased out |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 6:09pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
Heroicvic:Are you sure you're mentally ready for it? I mean, realizing that everything you've been told since birth was a BIG, FAT, HEALTHY LIE |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 6:12pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
peter0071:And religion (christianity) is stable? Whoa, dude. You're one of the most deluded dudes around. The bible is a lie, and has been scientifically and historically proven not to happen, plus the bible itself is contradictory and puzzling |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 6:13pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:Which god created the world and what's your evidence |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by jaephoenix(m): 6:15pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Is JW sect filled with love, and don't have needs? |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:23pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
jaephoenix: jaephoenix: Obviously you're someone having real pain each time you come across JWs but try to take good care of yourself because your hatred for truth won't lead you nowhere! |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by Heroicvic(m): 7:14pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
jaephoenix: I'm not dismissing what I learnt I'm just asking questions |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by Heroicvic(m): 7:16pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
jaephoenix: You're right on some part But religion will never fade out Little did you know that people love worshipping someone they think is superior That mentality alone is more than enough to keep it going |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by Heroicvic(m): 7:17pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Which of the books |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by Heroicvic(m): 7:18pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
jaephoenix: My point exactly Religion don't want you thinking on some issue They just term it mysterious or supernatural |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by Heroicvic(m): 7:19pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
peter0071: You made your point Appreciated 1 Like |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by Kobojunkie: 7:30pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
Heroicvic:1. Whichever one of them you choose for yourself. These are two different belief systems, so you decide which one of them appeals to you most. But whatever choice you make, it is essential that you read the book for yourself. |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by peter0071(m): 7:55pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
your choice , your stand.... my choice my stand... jaephoenix: |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by Starlight252: 8:00pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
Heroicvic: This question has always been on my mind since i was a kid. I grew up actively in church but no one could give me an answer. Everything that was professed was what was believed... Now i'm apathetetic to religion though i go to church when i'm home because of pesters... I've not yet seen love in religion; only segmental concern disguised as love. |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by Aemmyjah(m): 8:08pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
jaephoenix: The world jumped into existence by chance 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Is There A Way To Prove God Exist Apart From The Scripture? by Heroicvic(m): 8:28pm On Mar 31, 2023 |
Starlight252: I've always knew I wasn't the only person |
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