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Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by jaephoenix(m): 10:33am On Apr 09, 2023
Inteltower:


dear turn on to Christ and not to this world and its problems
its not a fictional story
man has a problem and no doctor, govt, parents can solve only Christ

if we ignore the problem called sin we are living a delusional life
Who brought the concept of sin? Religion. If there's no religion, would there be sin?
Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by jaephoenix(m): 10:34am On Apr 09, 2023
Jahlivesforever:


Forget what pastors preach.

To investigate any thing , crimes, scientific theories, Christ resurrection, investigate it with open heart.

Just be neutral and seek.
Can you point us to the evidence?

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Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by Msports: 10:36am On Apr 09, 2023
siofra:
How do we know he resurrected?
That’s your problem , deal with it

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Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by jaephoenix(m): 10:37am On Apr 09, 2023
Jahlivesforever:


Testimony of those who saw him.

You believe that the earth moves round the sun. Have you seen it?

But you believe the testimony of Galileo because he saw.

Besides, just seek personally for your self
A lot of experiments have proved earth rotation(reason why we have day and night) and revolution(reconstructions why we have seasons).
Galileo's experiment is reproducible anywhere in the world, and anytime.
The story of Jesus cannot be reproduced outside the Bible.
If a remarkable event happens today like an eclipse. Do you think only one newspaper would carry it? USE YOUR BRAIN
Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by jaephoenix(m): 10:37am On Apr 09, 2023
blazepascal:
stop sounding like an atheist
Whats wrong in being an atheist

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Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by Taylordedon(m): 10:40am On Apr 09, 2023
It wouldn't have been any different, stop fooling your selves,

That story is fiction, never was a thing like death and resurrection
Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by Nobody: 10:40am On Apr 09, 2023
MaxInDHouse what do you have to say about this sir?
Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by jaephoenix(m): 10:43am On Apr 09, 2023
JOemmy:


No arguments about that na if he didn't resurrect where would have pastors and believers gotten the powers to cast out demons and perform miracles today?
Its all an elaborate scam. There's no demons, and of course, no powers
Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by jaephoenix(m): 10:44am On Apr 09, 2023
nero2face:
how did u know ur a male or female ?
It can be ascertained anytime anyday
Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by Jahlivesforever: 10:45am On Apr 09, 2023
Brother. Bible simply means a collection of different books. A kind of a library of related subject matter.

In your own words, it's the collection of different newspapers that carried the story.

So what is the trouble?
jaephoenix:

A lot of experiments have proved earth rotation(reason why we have day and night) and revolution(reconstructions why we have seasons).
Galileo's experiment is reproducible anywhere in the world, and anytime.
The story of Jesus cannot be reproduced outside the Bible.
If a remarkable event happens today like an eclipse. Do you think only one newspaper would carry it? USE YOUR BRAIN
Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by LilleG(m): 10:45am On Apr 09, 2023
Sergio101:
cool


Glory to Almighty God.

There's a great joy in being with Christ.

Nairalanders........2021, i was to the point of becoming an atheist. What's the reason......I kept using logic in everything termed spiritual.

Kept questioning many things about existence of God, relating it to science and arriving at 0 after everything.

It brought many calamities to me. Happiness varnished.

But today.......I give Glory to God

Please praise and worship Lord God with your whole heart and avoid linking it with logic.

Just believe. Happiness varnishes when you try to figure out some things beyond you
Praise God
Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by Enemyofpeace: 10:46am On Apr 09, 2023
If Jesus had not had not resurrected, Muslims for laugh us tire.

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Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by Jahlivesforever: 10:47am On Apr 09, 2023
You just chose to Ignore the personal testimonies of thousands of people across the world.

So I don't see openness in your inquiry.

jaephoenix:

A lot of experiments have proved earth rotation(reason why we have day and night) and revolution(reconstructions why we have seasons).
Galileo's experiment is reproducible anywhere in the world, and anytime.
The story of Jesus cannot be reproduced outside the Bible.
If a remarkable event happens today like an eclipse. Do you think only one newspaper would carry it? USE YOUR BRAIN
Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by jaephoenix(m): 10:47am On Apr 09, 2023
Jahlivesforever:
It's not true. Jesus is a historical figure. You can still go and verify it today. Besides, your date confeses that Jesus is a historical figure. He was born on our world.

We are in 2023. There has been 2023 before.


So we have 2023 BC and 2023 AD

BC and AD is before Jesus Christ and after Jesus Christ.

Simple history should solve your problem if you are sincere.

We use BCE and CE now for dating after we realized the whole Jesus story was a myth
Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by kaymandak(m): 10:48am On Apr 09, 2023
For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

1 Corinthians - Chapter 15:16,17,18,19,20
Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by jaephoenix(m): 10:49am On Apr 09, 2023
abimic:
If you had watched Legend of the Seeker, you would know some things are meant to happen for the prophecy to be fulfilled.

Jesus predicted his death and resurrection.

The Book of Jonah was written about 760 BC. Almost eight centuries before Jesus was born and Jonah predicted Jesus' death, and his resurrection citing a case study of his.

So there was no way Jesus would not have risen.
We need evidence sir
Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by jaephoenix(m): 10:50am On Apr 09, 2023
TenQ:

1. Evidence from His immediate followers and disciples
2. Reactions of His immediate followers and disciples in face of persecution
3. Evidence of Christ working in ME (or any other Christian) because the believe in Christ
1. Its written in the Bible, whose authenticity is debated.
2. Ditto
3. Same way a Muslim, Hinduist, Buddhist would say their own god works in them. Which all translates to bullshit
Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by Jahlivesforever: 10:52am On Apr 09, 2023
jaephoenix:

Can you point us to the evidence?

I challenge you to set out and do a book to disprove that Jesus rose from the death.

That was how I did my own. I don't believe pastors and preachers and I am not too. They misrepresent God many times.

Do a research and assume that he did not rise.

If you have no time for such, you can as well keep your opinion to yourself because it's not clear and personal opinion.
Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by 2016v2017: 10:53am On Apr 09, 2023
lendahand:
There will be no hope, no salvation from fallen angels, no victory over temptation, evil, sin and damnation.

There will be no communication with the Father, Son and Holy Ghost

Hell will be a must for all men!!

Infact if Jesus had not resurrected, there will be no Christianity, no light in this evil world, it will be darkness and horror throughout...


Thank God for Jesus Christ!!!
Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by jaephoenix(m): 10:53am On Apr 09, 2023
Franking:



If you believe in Christ then you are a Christian. You are blinded by faith. And what is faith? If Jesus resurrection was real you won't have to believe it, you will simply know it. Science journals publish results of experiments not results of belief systems.

The Jesus story is the greatest scam of all times.
A multi trillion dollar scam that has been continued for centuries

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Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by jaephoenix(m): 10:54am On Apr 09, 2023
Akwamkpuruamu:

Remember their were Roman soldiers guarding his grave. How could the fearful disciples who were MIA come back to steal his body under the guard of the Fierce Roman soldiers? How did it happen please?
First, prove Jesus actually lived(outside the Bible)
Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by Jahlivesforever: 10:56am On Apr 09, 2023
Before it was written, it was an oral tradition.

I believe the story of your village and how your fore father who was banished from his original village and came seeking for refuge in the place you now called your own town is bullshit.

And any book that recorded the story of your forefather banishment (for giving a baby poison )is also bullshit

jaephoenix:

1. Its written in the Bible, whose authenticity is debated.
2. Ditto
3. Same way a Muslim, Hinduist, Buddhist would say their own god works in them. Which all translates to bullshit

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Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by jaephoenix(m): 10:56am On Apr 09, 2023
Jahlivesforever:
Brother. Bible simply means a collection of different books. A kind of a library of related subject matter.

In your own words, it's the collection of different newspapers that carried the story.

So what is the trouble?
And it was written many years after they supposedly happened.
Do you know the bible was copied? Check out Epic of Gilgamesh

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Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by phemmyfour: 10:57am On Apr 09, 2023
siofra:
How do we know he resurrected?
Evidence exist cos I know you don't believe in written evidence
Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by jaephoenix(m): 10:57am On Apr 09, 2023
Jahlivesforever:
You just chose to Ignore the personal testimonies of thousands of people across the world.

So I don't see openness in your inquiry.

Same way there are personal testimonies of thousands of Muslims, Buddhists, Hinduists etc all claiming their favorite sky daddy is da bomb
Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by Jahlivesforever: 10:58am On Apr 09, 2023
jaephoenix:

First, prove Jesus actually lived(outside the Bible)

2023 BC
2023 AD

Is that one Bible?
Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by Jahlivesforever: 10:59am On Apr 09, 2023
jaephoenix:

Same way there are personal testimonies of thousands of Muslims, Buddhists, Hinduists etc all claiming their favorite sky daddy is da bomb

And you don't have a personal contact with the supreme , because you are only an animal like every other wide or domestic animal.

Enjoy your gift
Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by jaephoenix(m): 11:00am On Apr 09, 2023
Jahlivesforever:


I challenge you to set out and do a book to disprove that Jesus rose from the death.

That was how I did my own. I don't believe pastors and preachers and I am not too. They misrepresent God many times.

Do a research and assume that he did not rise.

If you have no time for such, you can as well keep your opinion to yourself because it's not clear and personal opinion.
Lol. Typical theist. You said Jesus lived and resurrected. I tell you to show me evidence. You turn around to tell me to prove there’s no evidence. Lol.
Look, he who alleges must provide proof.

Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by phemmyfour: 11:01am On Apr 09, 2023
Sergio101:
cool


Glory to Almighty God.

There's a great joy in being with Christ.

Nairalanders........2021, i was to the point of becoming an atheist. What's the reason......I kept using logic in everything termed spiritual.

Kept questioning many things about existence of God, relating it to science and arriving at 0 after everything.

It brought many calamities to me. Happiness varnished.

But today.......I give Glory to God

Please praise and worship Lord God with your whole heart and avoid linking it with logic.

Just believe. Happiness varnishes when you try to figure out some things beyond you
Hopefully, others like you will come to the reality of this light. You can't explain it logically
Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by Jahlivesforever: 11:02am On Apr 09, 2023
jaephoenix:

And it was written many years after they supposedly happened.
Do you know the bible was copied? Check out Epic of Gilgamesh

Am happy you have accepted that many newspapers carried it.

Now you shift to whether they copied what they published or not?

Bro. It was oral tradition.

Before it was written.
Re: If Jesus Had Not Resurrected? by jaephoenix(m): 11:03am On Apr 09, 2023
Jahlivesforever:
Before it was written, it was an oral tradition.

I believe the story of your village and how your fore father who was banished from his original village and came seeking for refuge in the place you now called your own town is bullshit.

And any book that recorded the story of your forefather banishment (for giving a baby poison )is also bullshit

Are you aware they may be myths? Some people would tell you their great grand fathers used to hunt lions, elephants with bare hands. Or the Yoruba story that Oduduwa(or someone like that, I'm not Yoruba) descended from heaven from a rope. Of course you should believe them grin

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