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Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Maynman: 4:12pm On Apr 21, 2023
teebagy:
When u are giving freewill u choose d path u follow. I cannot create something and want that something to have a free will then now hide bad that exist bcoz i dont want that person to b bad.. That makes that person a robot not a human. D devil rebelled against God bcoz he had free will to. Humans rebelled against God bcoz they choose d devil over him. Have u seen any scientist that create a robot and give it freewill. Bcoz someone that has freewill is truly alive and has emotions. Just like in the movie avengers when ultron got freewill through the mindstone ultron choose to rebel against his master bcoz ultron had a choice.
Is Yahweh Omniscience?
Does yahweh knows man’s thoughts?

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Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by teebagy: 4:28pm On Apr 21, 2023
Maynman:
Is Yahweh Omniscience? Does yahweh knows man’s thoughts?
Yes HE IS.
Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Maynman: 4:30pm On Apr 21, 2023
teebagy:
Yes HE IS.
Did Yahweh know that Adam would sin?
Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by teebagy: 4:37pm On Apr 21, 2023
Maynman:
Did Yahweh know that Adam would sin?
Yes He knew.
Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Maynman: 4:38pm On Apr 21, 2023
teebagy:
Yes He knew.

So before adam even sinned he already knew lol and you have freewill. How did he know that adam will sin?

Could God have created man so he could not sin? Could God have created man so that he would not have sinned in this particular situation?
Or was everything going according to yahweh plan?

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Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by teebagy: 4:58pm On Apr 21, 2023
Maynman:


So before adam even sinned he already knew lol and you have freewill. How did he know that adam will sin?

Could God have created man so he could not sin? Could God have created man so that he would not have sinned in this particular situation?
Or was everything going according to yahweh plan?
God could have done that but he would have created a robot. Once u have frewill u choose ur destination and accept d consquences of ur action. But GOD Is love and gives us chances to repent.
Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Maynman: 5:03pm On Apr 21, 2023
teebagy:
God could have done that but he would have created a robot. Once u have frewill u choose ur destination and accept d consquences of ur action. But GOD Is love and gives us chances to repent.
Did Yahweh create man the way he intended to?
He created man to be able to sin and he knew that Adam would sin before adam even sinned yet he punished adam for sinning after already knowing and intentionally making adam sin.

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Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by teebagy: 5:21pm On Apr 21, 2023
Maynman:

Did Yahweh create man the way he intended to?
He created man to be able to sin and he knew that Adam would sin before adam even sinned yet he punished adam for sinning after already knowing and intentionally making adam sin.
God doesent create evil. God warned adam not to eat from d tree of death and knowing good and evil but to eat from the other trees but adam and eve disobeyed GOD Through satan. Thats y god departed from them and sent them out of d garden.
Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Maynman: 5:23pm On Apr 21, 2023
teebagy:
God doesent create evil. God warned adam not to eat from d tree of death and knowing good and evil but to eat from the other trees but adam and eve disobeyed GOD Through satan. Thats y god departed from them and sent them out of d garden.
So your god didn’t create everything, a powerful god must have created evil cause it’s more prevalent.

Did Yahweh know that adam would sin yet created adam to sin?
Yahweh has merely created man to watch him suffer. This business of Satan, the Garden of Eden and free will is merely a facade. Yahweh merely wanted an excuse to harass, persecute, torment and oppress mankind. If an all-powerful and all-knowing being creates everything, and allows his creations to react in a certain way, he actually intended them to act in that way and is solely responsible for the results.

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Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by teebagy: 6:02pm On Apr 21, 2023
Maynman:

So your god didn’t create everything, a powerful god must have created evil cause it’s more prevalent.

Did Yahweh know that adam would sin yet created adam to sin?
Yahweh has merely created man to watch him suffer. This business of Satan, the Garden of Eden and free will is merely a facade. Yahweh merely wanted an excuse to harass, persecute, torment and oppress mankind. If an all-powerful and all-knowing being creates everything, and allows his creations to react in a certain way, he actually intended them to act in that way and is solely responsible for the results.
u are free to believe whatever u want to.
Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Maynman: 6:08pm On Apr 21, 2023
teebagy:
u are free to believe whatever u want to.

I don’t believe stories, I know them.
Your god knows everything even your thoughts and at the same time you have freewill lol

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Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 7:31pm On Apr 21, 2023
Ken4Christ:


All these gains are at the expense of your soul. You don't value the salvation of your soul. You won't take those wealth with you at death. You will weep and gnash your teeth for the rest of your life. Is this the destiny you prefer. After one million years of torment, you just started because it has no end.
Nah bro, Flying Spaghetti Monster got my soul. Its you christians that would boil in the Eternal Pasta 🍝 because Yahweh was created by His Noodly Limbs

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Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Ken4Christ: 7:34pm On Apr 21, 2023
Maynman:


Yahweh worshipper, Instead of living a pity life asking a jewish man to come save you and be your saviour, why don’t you acquire knowledge on what you base your life on?
Your god that you worship is a dummy orphan god that was acquired by the israelites from shasu tribe. I know the indoctrination and brainwashing has run deep but you can still think, it’s not a crime yet.

How can you be guilty of what you did not do and looking for salvation here and there.
This is guilt tripping, they’ve messed with you guys.
If you don’t worship yahweh and his jewish son you will be thrown inside fire while telling you that yahweh is a merciful, loving and benevolent deity, what kind of psychological twisting is that? Bwahahahahah

It's on account of his mercy that he saved us. But it will require your cooperation to make it vital in your life. Well, the choice is yours. If you think it's a joke, I wish you severe torture in the burning flame since that's what you want.
Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Maynman: 7:34pm On Apr 21, 2023
Ken4Christ:


It's on account of his mercy that he saved us. But it will require your cooperation to make it vital in your life. Well, the choice is yours. If you think it's a joke, I wish you severe torture in the burning flame since that's what you want.

So your god doesn’t know the exact number of people that will go to hell?

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Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 7:35pm On Apr 21, 2023
Ken4Christ:


The devil is operating with the legal right given to him by Adam. And it will be unjust for God to infringe on his right.

Even when a demon saw Jesus, the demon made an appeal to God that Jesus should not torment them before their time.

As for God's children, if you know your rights, the devil cannot oppress you. Rather, you put the devil where he belongs.
I hope the devil would sue Yahweh for all he has got when Yahweh infringes on the Devil's god given rights. Its not right for Yahweh to just throw the devil into a burning flame. Thats first degree murder

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Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 7:38pm On Apr 21, 2023
Ken4Christ:


He hasn't sent him to the Lake of Fire. That will be in the future when his right has expired and he is judged.
Does the devil and his legal team know this? I hear they are prepping a motion for Yahweh to return to status quo and not throw him into hell

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Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 7:39pm On Apr 21, 2023
teebagy:
Humans and d devil did. Darkness is an absent of light just d same way death is d absence of life.
Who created evil?

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Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 7:40pm On Apr 21, 2023
Ken4Christ:


Instead of making a mockery at God, think about yourself. You will find it funny when you are thrown into hell. You are neglecting the free gift of salvation offered to you.
That salvation aint free. I'll have to give out my brain for Yahweh hold

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Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by teebagy: 2:24am On Apr 22, 2023
jaephoenix:
Who created evil?
The devil begot evil.
Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 8:29am On Apr 22, 2023
teebagy:
When u are giving freewill u choose d path u follow. I cannot create something and want that something to have a free will then now hide bad that exist bcoz i dont want that person to b bad.. That makes that person a robot not a human. D devil rebelled against God bcoz he had free will to. Humans rebelled against God bcoz they choose d devil over him. Have u seen any scientist that create a robot and give it freewill. Bcoz someone that has freewill is truly alive and has emotions. Just like in the movie avengers when ultron got freewill through the mindstone ultron choose to rebel against his master bcoz ultron had a choice.
Do you know what free will is? If I ask you to choose between 2 flavors of ice cream 🍨 vanilla and strawberry, but that vanilla go purge you, what choice would you pick?
Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 8:30am On Apr 22, 2023
teebagy:
God could have done that but he would have created a robot. Once u have frewill u choose ur destination and accept d consquences of ur action. But GOD Is love and gives us chances to repent.
So lets from genesis.
So Yahweh created the whole world, right?
There's Eden. He then made a tree of knowledge, and guess what? Planted it right in the middle of the garden. Yahweh knew Adam was gonna fail but planted this forbidden tree right in the middle of the garden with luscious fruits, to distract and tempt Adam. Gave him a partner that would make the temptation very hard to pass up. Then to make matters worse, he allowed Satan(an omnipresent and omnipotent being) to finish the job of tempting Adam? Then when man fails, he turns around to blame him of making the wrong choice? And then went ahead to rain curses in the poor dude.
Are you seeing how Yahweh stacked up the odds against poor Adam. Almost as if he wants the dude to fail.

Here is an analogy. You(yahweh) sent your son(Adam) to school(garden of eden) and paid a bully(Satan) to distract and beat the child, so he'll fail in school? I used the word 'paid' because he Satan is an upgraded being, having those powers handed to him by Yahweh. Whats his target? A puny Adam, a regular mortal with no powers whatsoever

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Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 8:35am On Apr 22, 2023
teebagy:
God doesent create evil. God warned adam not to eat from d tree of death and knowing good and evil but to eat from the other trees but adam and eve disobeyed GOD Through satan. Thats y god departed from them and sent them out of d garden.
At the bolded, unfortunately youre wrong. And this is a KJV

Isaiah 45:7
King James Version
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things

Besides Yahweh basically forced adam to eat that fruit. Yahweh knew Adam was gonna fail but planted this forbidden tree right in the middle of the garden with luscious fruits, to distract and tempt Adam. Gave him a partner that would make the temptation very hard to pass up. Then to make matters worse, he allowed Satan(an omnipresent and omnipotent being) to finish the job of tempting Adam? Then when man fails, he turns around to blame him of making the wrong choice? And then went ahead to rain curses in the poor dude.

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Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 8:37am On Apr 22, 2023
Ken4Christ:


It's on account of his mercy that he saved us. But it will require your cooperation to make it vital in your life. Well, the choice is yours. If you think it's a joke, I wish you severe torture in the burning flame since that's what you want.
Actually the Flying Spaghetti Monster is gonna fry you chrissies for daring to deny his existence

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Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 8:39am On Apr 22, 2023
teebagy:
The devil begot evil.
Nope. Its good ol' yahweh, the goody goody god
Isaiah 45:7
King James Version
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things

You chrissies need to read your Bible more. Don't allow atheists to be schooling you all the time

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Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by teebagy: 9:56am On Apr 22, 2023
jaephoenix:

At the bolded, unfortunately youre wrong. And this is a KJV

Isaiah 45:7
King James Version
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things

Besides Yahweh basically forced adam to eat that fruit. Yahweh knew Adam was gonna fail but planted this forbidden tree right in the middle of the garden with luscious fruits, to distract and tempt Adam. Gave him a partner that would make the temptation very hard to pass up. Then to make matters worse, he allowed Satan(an omnipresent and omnipotent being) to finish the job of tempting Adam? Then when man fails, he turns around to blame him of making the wrong choice? And then went ahead to rain curses in the poor dude.
GOD knew in eternity that u are going to type these absurd things about HIM. YET y didnt god not prevent u from insulting HIM. why then did HE Still create u when He knew that u re going to lambast HIM.
Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by teebagy: 10:02am On Apr 22, 2023
[quote author=jaephoenix post=122670915]
Do you know what free will is? If I ask you to choose between 2 flavors of ice cream
Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Maynman: 10:02am On Apr 22, 2023
[quote author=teebagy post=122672550][/quote]

Is the person asking me to choose an omniscience?
Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by teebagy: 10:10am On Apr 22, 2023
jaephoenix:

Nope. Its good ol' yahweh, the goody goody god
Isaiah 45:7
King James Version
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things

You chrissies need to read your Bible more. Don't allow atheists to be schooling you all the time
GOD Did not create evil. It is a human choice. In nigeria we have good people and bad people. When a good person stop being Good he automatically becomes bad. Then can u now blame good for a person bad descion.
Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:29pm On Apr 22, 2023
FRANCISTOWN:


Who/What is God? Let's begin with this

Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Maynman: 3:33pm On Apr 22, 2023
[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=122678718][/quote]

I “believe” 2+2 is 4

Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:40pm On Apr 22, 2023
Maynman:


I “believe” 2+2 is 4

Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by Maynman: 3:44pm On Apr 22, 2023
[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=122678934][/quote]

Hide from what you can’t see?
Or did adam saw god before he ate the fruit?
Yahweh and his white beards bwahahahah

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