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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 9:39pm On May 22, 2023
raumdeuter:


If Tinubu didnt contest and it was straight between Atiku and Obi

Who do you think will win?

IMO

Atiku vs Obi = Atiku
Atiku vs Tinubu = Atiku
Tinubu vs Obi = Tinubu
Tinubu vs Atiku vs Obi = Tinubu

There was no permutation where Obi can win any of the front 3 candidates
With the way INEC is hiding information contained in the BVAS I am completely sure that Peter Obi won that election. Tinubu was rigged in by INEC. So my permutations were near correct.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 9:44pm On May 22, 2023
liveLongNprospa:


Lmaoo... You are in for a long battle bossšŸ¤²

Experience is the best teacher cheesy
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by obainojazz(m): 10:09pm On May 22, 2023
iamoyindamola:
It's a good thing to have a refinery, the question we have is will it reduce our cost of production and reduce the price of petrol for the final consumers
That's the koko
Una too they hurry do copy and paste oga oo
The important thing is to end long lines of cars searching for petrol to buyā€¦.. We shouldnā€™t be dealing with fuel scarcity in 2023.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 10:58pm On May 22, 2023
Spy360:

With the way INEC is hiding information contained in the BVAS I am completely sure that Peter Obi won that election. Tinubu was rigged in by INEC. So my permutations were near correct.

El oh El

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 11:34pm On May 22, 2023
iamoyindamola:

No be so, we deal on cement too
If dangote supply at 1700 for example those truck drivers will add their own 200/300 per bag or else they will take it to another dealer.
We can sell 2600 or 2700 how is that 50%

You too do the calculation now.

If itā€™s 1700 from Dangote factory and it retails at 2600 or 2700 from retailers, thatā€™s a 900-1k difference from factory to consumers. Thatā€™s basically 50% margin. Iā€™m not sure Dangote himself makes that high per bag.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 11:34pm On May 22, 2023
liveLongNprospa:


You sure about this thing you talk so?
Coz I worked with lafarge and this your story get as e be

Well if you have contrary information, you can share with us.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 11:56pm On May 22, 2023
I believe Dangote also ventured into fruit juice biz with the dansa brand, but closed shop soon after.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 12:21am On May 23, 2023
ā€œBeyond todayā€™s ceremony, our first goal is to ramp up production of the various products to ensure that within this year, we are able to fully satisfy the nationā€™s demand for quality products.

ā€œThere will be constant availability of high-quality fuels for our transportation sector, the refinery will also make available to our industries vital raw materials for wide range of manufacturing.ā€

- Aliko Dangote

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 12:30am On May 23, 2023
Binani Air launched.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 2:07am On May 23, 2023
Fasten your seatbelt, coz its a trip from Lagos to Kano, but you gonna enjoy the ride powering by Dangote PMS.


Indeed the inauguration of the Dangote Refinery is certainly the game changer as it will not only ensure Nigeria attains self sufficiency in domestic petroleum products requirements but will also save Nigeria over $20b annually in demand for Forex to import petroleum products while bringing in over $10b annually in Forex from exports.

This will certainly free up demand for Forex while increasing forex supply which will help the NGN-$USD exchange rate to stabilize and strengthen the NGN.
Other socio-economic impact such as jobs creation, powering of several other industries, wealth creation etc cannot be overemphasized.

I recall with mixed feelings, the bold decision from a group that I led, when in 2008 we decided to make an effort to relocate two brownfield refineries from Houston, Texas USA to Nigeria in a bid to resolve the issue of importation of petroleum products to Nigeria and the huge subsidies involved which has taken a new dimension then.

At that period, most business entrepreneurs in Nigeria were busy trying to get involve in importation of Petroluem Products for quick benefits but we chose to be different by taken the road less travel by aiming provide alternative solution.

The strategy was simply to acquire and relocate two brownfield refineries with combined capacity of 200k BPD which process can all be completed within a short time and this refineries can optimally work for between 10 to 15 years within which period we envisaged the issue of Govt owned refineries will be resolve to get them back working and also new Greenfield refineries like the Dangote Refinery will have come on stream to ensure Nigeria achieve self sufficiency in local refining and becomes a net exporter.

Relocating a brownfield refinery may take between 2-3 years max while building a Greenfield refinery may takes between 7 to 10 years and even moreā€¦

A lot of work was put out to identify the Refineries for acquisition and relocation, MOU signed, JV agreement in place, inspection by DPR, preliminary budget/project cost agreed, equity financing sourced, debt financing under negotiation subject to conditions precedent, land allocation discussion ongoing to find the appropriate location in Delta and Rivers state among other critical requirements etc.

The unintended event of May 5, 2010 and the attendant policy reversal abruptly ended this vission/objective as the last leg of the fundamental support and enabling environment needed to deliver the project was lost and the available refineries were eventually sold.

My mixed feelings today is that sure if this refinery relocation project was during PMB time, the requisite institutional support and enabling environment would probably have been effortlessly on the table to see it through to delivery in the best interest of the country.


Indeed, in 2018 PMB approved for NNPC to start a ā€œrefinery collation initiativeā€ with NNPC engaging with some groups to relocate a brownfield refinery owned by BP from Turkey to Nigeria to be sited in Rivers State and Delta State, Warri ā€¦same strategy as we had in 2008.

Well, history will continue to bear witness and I am extremely excited like all well meaning Nigerians with the inauguration of the 650,000 BPD Dangote Refinery, which is the largest single train refinery in the world and once it is ramp-up full steam in a couple of months, the fundamental deficit of importation of petroleum products to Nigeria with all the distortions to the economy will be resolved for good and Nigeria will be net exporter of petroleum productsā€¦ only IDAN ALIKO DANGOTE can deliver this under the current circumstances. Congratulations Boss and God continue to make this easy.

- Shehu Dikko

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 2:22am On May 23, 2023
Breaking Bad News;

PresidentĀ Biden Announces Presidential Delegation to the Federal Republic of Nigeria to Attend the Inauguration of His Excellency Bola AhmedĀ Tinubu.


President Joseph R. Biden, Jr. today announced the designation of a Presidential Delegation to attend the Inauguration of His Excellency Bola Ahmed Tinubu on May 29, 2023, in Abuja, Nigeria.
Ā 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/05/22/president-biden-announces-presidential-delegation-to-the-federal-republic-of-nigeria-to-attend-the-inauguration-of-his-excellency-bola-ahmed-tinubu/

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by airmark(m): 3:02am On May 23, 2023
OasisX:
Breaking Bad News;

PresidentĀ Biden Announces Presidential Delegation to the Federal Republic of Nigeria to Attend the Inauguration of His Excellency Bola AhmedĀ Tinubu.


President Joseph R. Biden, Jr. today announced the designation of a Presidential Delegation to attend the Inauguration of His Excellency Bola Ahmed Tinubu on May 29, 2023, in Abuja, Nigeria.
Ā 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/05/22/president-biden-announces-presidential-delegation-to-the-federal-republic-of-nigeria-to-attend-the-inauguration-of-his-excellency-bola-ahmed-tinubu/


Bad news to Obidients, right? You no well. šŸ˜„

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 3:35am On May 23, 2023
OasisX:
Breaking Bad News;

PresidentĀ Biden Announces Presidential Delegation to the Federal Republic of Nigeria to Attend the Inauguration of His Excellency Bola AhmedĀ Tinubu.


President Joseph R. Biden, Jr. today announced the designation of a Presidential Delegation to attend the Inauguration of His Excellency Bola Ahmed Tinubu on May 29, 2023, in Abuja, Nigeria.
Ā 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/05/22/president-biden-announces-presidential-delegation-to-the-federal-republic-of-nigeria-to-attend-the-inauguration-of-his-excellency-bola-ahmed-tinubu/


na wa ooo. to misquote gej - america will not know cry cry cry cry cry. damn! that old joe biden obviously can't read. maybe if chief adichie had personally read the letter to him he would be able to comprehend the magnitude of the rape of democracy and theft of peter obis man-date.ah i see - thats the mistake chief adichie made. all she should have done is write that Thifnoobooboo had stolen Peter Obis man-date in an act of homophobic aggression. Peter obi cannot live with out his man-date cry cry cry. the yin to his yang; the bass to his falsetto.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 3:42am On May 23, 2023
raumdeuter:


El oh El
Dey play Dayo

Just dey play šŸ˜‚
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 3:44am On May 23, 2023
OasisX:
Breaking Bad News;

PresidentĀ Biden Announces Presidential Delegation to the Federal Republic of Nigeria to Attend the Inauguration of His Excellency Bola AhmedĀ Tinubu.


President Joseph R. Biden, Jr. today announced the designation of a Presidential Delegation to attend the Inauguration of His Excellency Bola Ahmed Tinubu on May 29, 2023, in Abuja, Nigeria.
Ā 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/05/22/president-biden-announces-presidential-delegation-to-the-federal-republic-of-nigeria-to-attend-the-inauguration-of-his-excellency-bola-ahmed-tinubu/

May 26th
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:14am On May 23, 2023
OasisX:
Breaking Bad News;

PresidentĀ Biden Announces Presidential Delegation to the Federal Republic of Nigeria to Attend the Inauguration of His Excellency Bola AhmedĀ Tinubu.


President Joseph R. Biden, Jr. today announced the designation of a Presidential Delegation to attend the Inauguration of His Excellency Bola Ahmed Tinubu on May 29, 2023, in Abuja, Nigeria.
Ā 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/05/22/president-biden-announces-presidential-delegation-to-the-federal-republic-of-nigeria-to-attend-the-inauguration-of-his-excellency-bola-ahmed-tinubu/


Dagger in the hearts of Obidients from Biden

Time to cancel America

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by PDPGuy: 4:56am On May 23, 2023
OasisX:
Binani Air launched.
Na Aisha own am? grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:41am On May 23, 2023
larride:


Yes. The margin the wholesalers put on those cements is almost 50%.

Thereā€™s this Dangote interview I watched where he lamented that the retailers are making more profits than he is making on each bags

Can u please share the interview u are referring to here ?

I doubt Dangote is saying the truth if he indeed claimed wholsesalers put almost 50% margin on his products when it gets to their hands.

For starters I know Dangote stopped carrying his products a long time ago. He already hedged that risk by allowing distributors own trucks registered under his franchise to carry products from his depot in Obajana to any part of the country . Most times when those trucks have accidents and people burn them down in the hope of hurting Dangoteā€™s business , they donā€™t know they are destroying the business of their kinsmen who own the trucks and have it registered under Dangoteā€™s franchise .

For example the risk involved in transporting products from Obajana to Kebbi state is transferred to the wholesaler who is carrying the product ; risks such as paying all security men on the road , escaping robbers in the road and even risk of having ur truck burnt down when an untoward event happens .

I remember a case in 2021 when one truck killed an okada man in Obajana , the youth of the town mobilized and burnt all the trucks on queue waiting to load at the depot . ( These trucks belong to individual businessmen who keyed into Dangoteā€™s logistics franchise and they had to beat the risk on behalf of Dangote ).

I think Dangote is being economical with the truth if heā€™s claiming wholesalers put as much as 50% margin on his products ex-factory works . If u have a sit-down talk with the wholesalers, u will be surprised those margins arenā€™t that high as Dangote make them seem .

Lastly I found it very very hard to believe that an entrepreneur will assemble all the factors of production to come up with a product offering to the consumers only to have wholesalers making 50% margin on the final product . It wonā€™t even happen in the most capitalist economies my brother .

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 6:13am On May 23, 2023
BlueRayDick:


Can u please share the interview u are referring to here ?

I doubt Dangote is saying the truth if he indeed claimed wholsesalers put almost 50% margin on his products when it gets to their hands.

For starters I know Dangote stopped carrying his products a long time ago. He already hedged that risk by allowing distributors own trucks registered under his franchise to carry products from his depot in Obajana to any part of the country . Most times when those trucks have accidents and people burn them down in the hope of hurting Dangoteā€™s business , they donā€™t know they are destroying the business of their kinsmen who own the trucks and have it registered under Dangoteā€™s franchise .

For example the risk involved in transporting products from Obajana to Kebbi state is transferred to the wholesaler who is carrying the product ; risks such as paying all security men on the road , escaping robbers in the road and even briaknof having ur truck burnt down when an untoward event happens .

I remember a case in 2021 when one truck killed an okada man in Obajana in 2021 , the youth of the town mobilized and burnt all the trucks on queue waiting to load at the depot . ( These trucks belong to individual businessmen who keyed into Dangoteā€™s logistics franchise and they had to beat the risk on behalf of Dangote ).

I think Dangote is being economical with the truth if heā€™s claiming wholesalers put as much as 50% margin on his products ex-factory works . If u have a sit-down talk with the wholesalers, u will be surprised those margins arenā€™t that high as Dangote make them seem .

Lastly I found it very very hard to believe that an entrepreneur will assemble all the factors of production to come up with a product offering to the consumers only to have wholesalers making 50% margin on the final product . It wonā€™t even happen in the most capitalist economies my brother .

Plus outside of that Dangote trucks nor dey get taxed by agbero.
Coz na Dangote trucks so that man dey lie anyhow.

Anyways make dey break well I go call to find out the price wey lafarge dey sell as at today to distributors and the price those ones dey sell
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 6:16am On May 23, 2023
larride:


Well if you have contrary information, you can share with us.
I will.
Make them wake up first
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 6:20am On May 23, 2023
larride:


You too do the calculation now.

If itā€™s 1700 from Dangote factory and it retails at 2600 or 2700 from retailers, thatā€™s a 900-1k difference from factory to consumers. Thatā€™s basically 50% margin. Iā€™m not sure Dangote himself makes that high per bag.
No na, what about the 200/300 the drivers put?
You canā€™t tell me dangote doesnā€™t know about this
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 6:21am On May 23, 2023
Ibime:


Experience is the best teacher cheesy

It's one of the sweetest things.
You go learn new things in the process.
You battle differently than he does but I've realized that with more responsibilities in your daily lives, the way yall reply is not as tight or as detailed as back then.
Probably due to you guys been busy with life.. It happensšŸ˜
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 6:28am On May 23, 2023
Miracle nor dey tire Jesus.

Economics inside this country dey turn head.

Where Dangote see money pay back 70% when refinery never start?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 7:28am On May 23, 2023
My prayer is that this refinery is not one of those things that what it cost the nation to build doesn't outweigh its benefits.

Abeg God.
Nigeria desperately needs a break
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibukzy: 7:35am On May 23, 2023
Always PessimisticšŸ˜’šŸ˜’

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 7:38am On May 23, 2023
BlueRayDick:


Can u please share the interview u are referring to here ?

I doubt Dangote is saying the truth if he indeed claimed wholsesalers put almost 50% margin on his products when it gets to their hands.

For starters I know Dangote stopped carrying his products a long time ago. He already hedged that risk by allowing distributors own trucks registered under his franchise to carry products from his depot in Obajana to any part of the country . Most times when those trucks have accidents and people burn them down in the hope of hurting Dangoteā€™s business , they donā€™t know they are destroying the business of their kinsmen who own the trucks and have it registered under Dangoteā€™s franchise .

For example the risk involved in transporting products from Obajana to Kebbi state is transferred to the wholesaler who is carrying the product ; risks such as paying all security men on the road , escaping robbers in the road and even risk of having ur truck burnt down when an untoward event happens .

I remember a case in 2021 when one truck killed an okada man in Obajana , the youth of the town mobilized and burnt all the trucks on queue waiting to load at the depot . ( These trucks belong to individual businessmen who keyed into Dangoteā€™s logistics franchise and they had to beat the risk on behalf of Dangote ).

I think Dangote is being economical with the truth if heā€™s claiming wholesalers put as much as 50% margin on his products ex-factory works . If u have a sit-down talk with the wholesalers, u will be surprised those margins arenā€™t that high as Dangote make them seem .

Lastly I found it very very hard to believe that an entrepreneur will assemble all the factors of production to come up with a product offering to the consumers only to have wholesalers making 50% margin on the final product . It wonā€™t even happen in the most capitalist economies my brother .

Iā€™ve been trying to get my hands on that interview since last night with no success. I canā€™t remember if it was on Twitter I saw the video or YouTube.

Look at the breakdown that iamoyindamola gave and you will see it mirror at least closely to what I said and attest to what you say also.

Dangote, lafarge and bua sells cement at almost at the same factory price, it is the additional cost and profit margins of distributors that makes Dangote cement more expensive than the others.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 7:39am On May 23, 2023
liveLongNprospa:
Miracle nor dey tire Jesus.

Economics inside this country dey turn head.

Where Dangote see money pay back 70% when refinery never start?

Shey him no get any other business wey Dey bring in money for him again?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 7:40am On May 23, 2023
iamoyindamola:

No na, what about the 200/300 the drivers put?
You canā€™t tell me dangote doesnā€™t know about this

Well according to what Blueray explained. He knows.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 7:41am On May 23, 2023
OasisX:
Breaking Bad News;

PresidentĀ Biden Announces Presidential Delegation to the Federal Republic of Nigeria to Attend the Inauguration of His Excellency Bola AhmedĀ Tinubu.


President Joseph R. Biden, Jr. today announced the designation of a Presidential Delegation to attend the Inauguration of His Excellency Bola Ahmed Tinubu on May 29, 2023, in Abuja, Nigeria.
Ā 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/05/22/president-biden-announces-presidential-delegation-to-the-federal-republic-of-nigeria-to-attend-the-inauguration-of-his-excellency-bola-ahmed-tinubu/


Be like Joe Biden no read any letter oo
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:51am On May 23, 2023
larride:


Iā€™ve been trying to get my hands on that interview since last night with no success. I canā€™t remember if it was on Twitter I saw the video or YouTube.

Look at the breakdown that iamoyindamola gave and you will see it mirror at least closely to what I said and attest to what you say also.

Dangote, lafarge and bua sells cement at almost at the same factory price, it is the additional cost and profit margins of distributors that makes Dangote cement more expensive than the others.

I disagree with this position in bold. Dangote cement being priced higher than other brands might be due to a lot of factors other than distributor's margin. For example it could be due to branding and how acceptable the brand is ; It could be due to the fact that Dangote is a market leader like indomie in the noodles market(which makes indomie more expensive than other brands), It could even be due to the marketing/advertising effort of his business managers who have imprinted it in people's mind that Dangote cement is a better brand such that u are willing to buy Dangote's cement cos u feel safer due the the quality product they promise in their adverts and marketing effort.

I honestly don't think wholesalers just price Dangote cement higher because they feel like doing so. Whatever the case may be, Dangote the man surely knows about it.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Melvyn11: 8:10am On May 23, 2023
izzou:


There is Tummy Tummy
Chiki Chiki
Supreme
Golden Penny
These are the few I know

So how come these ones haven't folded up?

You don't have to know a business for it to make profit.

Dangote left because he wasn't making profit, not because they didn't know him

In the east Na tummy tummy be no1. Maybe it's because of the carrot inside.

When I saw indomie generates 1 billion dollars annually and I ask myself if this can happen without conquering the whole Nigeria then there is money to be made in the country with the right investment.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Melvyn11: 8:13am On May 23, 2023
izzou:



He sold his flour mills
He had noodles. He sold it to Multipro
He sold his noodles to Dufil prima. At present no food brand can rival or conquer dufil foods I think it's impossible. These guys know Nigeria more than we do. See what they did with power oil, no wonder they keep investing more in the country.

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