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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(m): 1:37pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 1:45pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
justwise: when some of us say it's a hit-and-run system they are doing, it's like we don't know what we are saying. All they are interested in is the 'benjamin' and then complain and throw people out |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 1:56pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
Zahra29: No country likes immigration cos human beings are naturally selfish and not always willing to share, but you see this current Uk conservative govt, they are becoming like fascists who are only dreaming on a fantasy island. Only the current Uk govt is acting in the opposite direction of their Western counterparts cos they have lost all ideas on moving the economy forward. I hope it's also net migration that is the cause of all the Labour strikes here and there. 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by misterkelly: 2:17pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
Noted. Thank you hayesconcept: |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by misterkelly: 2:18pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
Now I get. Thank you very much Lexusgs430: |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 2:28pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
Guys I’m Still looking for job in London oo. Eshanu aje |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hayesconcept(m): 2:39pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
Are you a student? lavida001: |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(m): 2:42pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
Goke7: Of course!! It’s all about the money, they dished out as many visa stamps as they want and collect millions then start crying about immigration figures 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 2:46pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 3:04pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
hayesconcept: Yes rounded up na just project remain. So I just moved to London |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 3:06pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
justwise: Including IHS and visa fee plus tuition fees of student plus rent and taxes we pay. It’s running into billions of £ that we add to their economy 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Raalsalghul: 3:10pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
justwise: Remember reading a particular post here some few years ago: a particular nairalander called them "bait and switch." 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 3:25pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
[quote author=Raalsalghul post=124253736] Remember reading a particular post here some few years ago: a particular nairalander called them "bait and switch." [/quote More like “cash in” “cash out” |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 3:35pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
Ticha: Thank you Ticha for this informative post which clearly illustrates that the UK is on the cheaper, more generous and more flexible end of the scale when it comes to health insurance for immigrants. I'm sure people won't let these facts impede their need to complain however. 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 3:36pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
justwise: Classic knee-jerk. Just like before Brexit, it was clear the care sector was heavily reliant on eastern Europeans who left after the vote. There were only 3 options- the government facilitating a wage rise of at least 40% to make it more attractive, a collapse of the sector or lastly, the government facilitating folks from other nations to come take up those jobs. We know what the government chose. If that visa route is stopped (quite likely), it's only a matter of 2-4 years before those who came in migrate into other sectors with thesame labour shortage arising again. Just like with the PSW, they'd chase their tail once more while the public wallows in ignorance. 3 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 3:39pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
hustla: It's the senseless back and forth that gives folks who otherwise would have kept shut room to make noise. I remember telling a Brit post-brexit that though it'd favour me as a Nigerian, it would not result in the economic boom he was sold. Folks arriving should endeavour to upgrade their qualifications, earn more rise to the top of the ladder or even japa from the UK. The faces whenever an immigrant mentions they're waiting for their British passport and getting a buy to let before they migrate to Australia/Canada is always bliss. All of a sudden, they feel they want you to remain. That is 'interesting' some would say. Lol... Fact is, Brexit was classic self-harm. Sadly, it's same herd mentality driving alot here. Good thing this is happening under a Conservative government, I wonder if the public will trust a Labour government with culling immigration 4 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 3:44pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
Goke7: This current gov is the most lenient in the last 13 years when it comes to immigration. If you were able to contrast with the policies of Cameron and May 10, 15 years ago, then you would recognise that broadly speaking, recent immigrants have an easier ride in many ways. And despite their occasional diatribe against immigration, the UK government has always been left leaning ,I.e. a softer touch, compared to many of its European counterparts. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 3:48pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
jedisco: I agree with this. Brexit is now being exposed as a failed experiment and it won't be long before the UK seeks out some sort of agreement with the EU to allow labour to come in (more) freely. The average Brexit voter certainly did not vote for increased immigration from black and brown countries (which doesn't even plug the full spectrum of labour shortages) which is why they are now considering ways to address this. Being in the EU was so much better. Most sectors had a steady and sustainable supply of labour. Construction, agriculture, cleaning, nursing etc ...not just the care sector. And most EU workers were very hard working. Hopefully the gov is beginning (or soon will) to have closed door discussions on how to plug back into the EU labour market. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 3:49pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
lavida001: And vice versa in the form of diasporan remittances. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Raalsalghul: 4:01pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 4:04pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
koonbey: Thank you! Some people (out there, not on this forum lol) who rail against inter state migration or immigration from neighbouring west African countries or don't vote for the most qualified candidate because if his/her tribe, or discriminate in any way against someone because they don't speak their language, are the first to scream out unfairness/fascism when a foreign government takes steps to restrict the mass movement of people from a completely different continent and culture 3 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 4:35pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
jedisco: Even more self harm to come and then back to the moaning for being unable to fill jobs Confused is what they are God go help us sha 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 4:35pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
Zahra29: Boris govt, Yes, this current govt NO, a govt that plans to increase ihs fees to £2700 is just becoming nothing but supporting fascism, a govt that wants to start pursuing care workers (that many people are just trying to cope with) left right and centre cannot be said to be lenient in any way. We know the individual politicians behind all this mess, Braverman is just a stooge but those behind her, their antecedents of fascism are well known. Talking about European counterparts, check out the Uk policies and compare them to that of Germany now, Do you think the Uk is any better? abi you dey whine me? 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 4:36pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 4:39pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 4:57pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
Zahra29: who were they expecting to fill in the gaps, Angels from Heaven? Look here, the Brits are what they are, it's even beyond the issues of racism, they just get irritated when they are fed up of so many people within their space contending for the same resources whether white, brown, or black. From the old days of the Windrush generation to Brexit, it's the same story and the same narratives around net migration and how it's affecting them badly. The benefits they have enjoyed from this migration influx over the years they play down when whenever they are bored. It's a cycle or is it now they realise the benefits of being in the EU? do we not hear stories of how the Windrush generation helped to build their NHS and even their railways? did they not always wake up one day and start chasing people up and down be it Europeans or whoever. Now they are even fed up with even the refugees from Ukraine and Hongkong, nothing is new jare about their behaviour 10 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by eniola1010(m): 5:14pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 5:39pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
Goke7: Lol @ look here....I'm looking 👀😂 I actually agree with your post. I never said they were angels and of course Brexit is the proverbial chicken that's come home to roost. However as I've said, every western country is compelled to be firm with its immigration policies in the era we are living in. The UK is not alone in this and is far more open and tolerant than people on here give them credit for. 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 5:48pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
Goke7: Bro this gov is largely Boris 2.0. So Priti was more lenient than Suella? Or is it because her policies didn't affect dependents or care workers (and only because the net migration figures weren't released during her tenure). But it was ok for her to make it more difficult for genuine refugees to settle here? Germany is trying to attract workers that it needs. Once it's had its fill then it's likely to change course. Same with Canada who has tightened up its rules/ entry criteria Vs a few years ago. Same with Australia that expands and contracts its policies at will based on its need for immigrant labour. The UK is not an anomaly. Did you read Tichas post to see what the Australian equivalent of IHS costs per year? She also revealed that under their policies , someone with sickle cell disease or another pre existing condition would not be eligible to settle there. Why aren't you labelling them fascist? |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 6:17pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
Zahra29: The Uk says it has over 1 million vacancies, so how is the current policy addressing this? The problem with the Uk is that today they complain about workers shortage and the next day you hear about bringing down net migration. The narrative is what is what is irritating people. Germany came out to say they are in shortage of workers and they match the narrative with the policy we are seeing today including Canada or Australia. But not so with their UK counterparts with most industries complaining about workers shortage and the next thing you hear is an increase in the salary requirements for migration for skilled workers, omo e no make sense at all. My take is if the UK is not even bothered about immigrants or foreign workers, fine but don't they care about their own industries, sectors, and private organisations? the organisations are crying day and night for workers but it's Rwanda the govt is talking about haba and you don't want me to call them fascists. e get as e be o. See let them even increase all their fees, no problem but complaining about a shortage of workers and implementing opposing policies shows how backward the Uk is becoming in terms of modern-day diplomacy and governance. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Santa2: 6:29pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
Zahra29: Truth is every govt would make policies to suit them as at when they need it. From the get go I knew the PSW/care work route was going to be a short gap just to back fill the vaacum left post brexit. Reminds me of several years ago when I kept delaying applying for the HSMP program until it was scrapped. Migration is as old as the world itself. and countries would keep changing policies as it suits them. Historically whenever economic landscape experiences a downturn, politicians tend to turn to immigration as one of the low hanging fruits they take a jab at. After the storm clears they 'open borders' again. I do not like it. Heck, its the world we live in. The Onus on is me to plan ahead, plan well, and not to be caught sleeping. We go dey alright las last. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 6:37pm On Jul 06, 2023 |
Goke7: Because even with a net migration of over 600k, the largest ever, there's still a chronic shortage in most sectors. This gives rise to the reasoning that the current model is not working. Because unlike the eastern Europeans, immigrants from India , Nigeria etc are not interested in working in hospitality, construction, agriculture, blue collar jobs like plumbing, carpentry etc.So unless they print 5M visas to entice people from these countries into these sectors - but where will they live and which hospitals will they go to? It's is not sustainable and the gov is waking up to this fact. Even labour is talking about training up and mobilising its citizens (e.g. by increasing wages) over importing foreign workers. Soon enough they'll seek a deal with the EU to access their labour market. |
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