Retract your offer, go for someone you've never known before .

She will F**k you up! Big time bro... its just a matter of time like under 6 years.

beekind:

Thousands of people some with even better life than most are dieing on the seas attempting to become illegal immigrants in Europe.

I bet more than half of those on this platform will give an arm and a leg to be able to wash toilets in North America.

While there are obviously other advantages to it like the possibility of marriage(although not guaranteed).

The prospect of dual citizenship is enough considering the alternative and the reality on ground.

U r arrogant, pompous, and proud.
See on the ground level soon

beekind:


You women can't just discuss things without being overly emotional.

What other people are doing is get married, have kids and return abroad effectively shutting the door on the lady and making it hard for her to re-marry since she was married to them.

You seem to be quite young but as you get older you realise there is a difference between reality and fantasy and your perception of idealism is only a reflection of what society has fed you.

Like I said, marriage is possible but not guaranteed.
Men are driven by objectivity and not emotions.

I love her truely but love is never enough, life is more complicated than that.

Emotion Kee u there

beekind:
I am in my mid 30s, very comfortable and a dual citizen of Nigeria and a first world country.
I decided to relocate back to Nigeria because of starting a family and having my own children.
Since arriving the country and based on my experiences so far, my plans have changed.

I decided to first focus on having children as I found out that the Nigerian society has become almost worse than the west in terms of sexual debauchery.
People have sex for indomine, girls commit abortion without remorse, the worst thing is that no one here uses protection and by the time your average Nigerian girl reaches 30 years old, she has aborted 4 times, slept with almost 100 men and contacted several stds in the process.

What this means is that disciplined men like me are left with these category of girls, worst still is that they come very entitled and empty and can even ruin you with their lifestyle as they are usually impossible to reform.

Solution:
I had to go back to the drawing board and re-evaluated my plan, I have an ex-girlfriend (29 years old) whom I am very close with. She fits the bill in terms of who I want as a life partner but she is a single mother.
So I gave her a choice.

Have 2 children for me, those 2 children will automatically become dual citizens and I might consider marrying you and adopting your child but even if I don't marry you, your 2 children that you have by me will be taken care of and being dual citizens of a developed country they can turn to a blessing for you and your whole family in future.

Now, let me explain, I still love this lady and my decision was premised on how uncertain I am of what my choice will be in the future as such I wanted to be very open from the beginning, but even at this point, I can not guarantee I will marry her but I could depending on what happens in future.

She's going to give me a feedback later and I am quite positive she will take the offer.

If it were you faced with this option, what would you do ?

Unfortunately your emphasis of being a 'dual citizen' will ends you up in the hands of 'wrong woman's
If really you looking for good wife, you don't 'dance a carrot' before her.you allow her to live you for whom you are* of course 'your cv' you put up will not earn you a 'good' wife [sorry for telling you the hard truth]
* You perspectives about others on a scale of 10 is a reflection of yourself'
* You have a very wrong notion about Nigeria girls maybe you stay too long with social media
Not all ladies dance for indomie [that's not to say]
* You need a good wife? You keep your 'dual citizenship' to urself' a lady that will love you don't care.. she will just love you for who you are.

*Apply to a 'good' restaurant as a cleaner/cook or whatever or wherever [maybe] in a well located area of your city [you are on mission]
* then open your eyes and pray .. the rest will be history
[I hope you read]

Persephone1:
You are obviously a dual citizen of Kuvukiland and Lala land else you won't type this shit you confidently typed. In your supposed first world forums can you post gibberish like this without people asking you what cave you came from?
Spewing nonsense everywhere like the everyday IJCB dunce.

You trashed a lady's self image and worth, reduced her to nothingness by your selfish ill thought out business proposal yet you claim to love her. How confused you are! How are you different?

Typical Nigerian male ego! The lady suppose block, block your IP address join !

kuvukiland gat me rolling on the floor😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Goods girls are many n I have many as free ok

beekind:
I am in my mid 30s, very comfortable and a dual citizen of Nigeria and a first world country.
I decided to relocate back to Nigeria because of starting a family and having my own children.
Since arriving the country and based on my experiences so far, my plans have changed.

I decided to first focus on having children as I found out that the Nigerian society has become almost worse than the west in terms of sexual debauchery.
People have sex for indomine, girls commit abortion without remorse, the worst thing is that no one here uses protection and by the time your average Nigerian girl reaches 30 years old, she has aborted 4 times, slept with almost 100 men and contacted several stds in the process.

What this means is that disciplined men like me are left with these category of girls, worst still is that they come very entitled and empty and can even ruin you with their lifestyle as they are usually impossible to reform.

Solution:
I had to go back to the drawing board and re-evaluated my plan, I have an ex-girlfriend (29 years old) whom I am very close with. She fits the bill in terms of who I want as a life partner but she is a single mother.
So I gave her a choice.

Have 2 children for me, those 2 children will automatically become dual citizens and I might consider marrying you and adopting your child but even if I don't marry you, your 2 children that you have by me will be taken care of and being dual citizens of a developed country they can turn to a blessing for you and your whole family in future.

Now, let me explain, I still love this lady and my decision was premised on how uncertain I am of what my choice will be in the future as such I wanted to be very open from the beginning, but even at this point, I can not guarantee I will marry her but I could depending on what happens in future.

She's going to give me a feedback later and I am quite positive she will take the offer.

[b]If it were you faced with this option, what would you do ?[ /b]

With all due respect, you are wicked. So you want children but don’t want commitment? Use & dump seems to be your modus operandi. I wonder how you’d feel if someone gave your daughter such options. So because of some citizenship, you now want to treat people like shit because Nigerian girls are immoral. Bullsh!t !!! You are a pervert. Anyone who can sit & plot that kind of evil against someone’s daughter, has all the hallmarks of a perv and is to be avoided at all cost. So she’s good enough to give birth for you, but not good enough to marry? Such write ups give me chest pains. To hell with your 1st class BS. 1st world is not heaven. The disrespect! The nerve! Stop treating women like objects. They deserve some respect! Absolute Rubbish!! Shame on you!

AllenSpencer:
I want to believe the girl is hungry and why you had the effrontery to throw such proposal at her!

She should become a baby mama because of dual citizenship? Does dual citizenship guarantee her love, affection, or marriage. Will same dual citizenship put food on her table in an eventuality?

Location does not “GUARANTEE” that kids will be a blessing. There are records of kids becoming very successful within Nigeria and internationally.

I don’t see a single thing she has to gain. If she was selling the babies to you, that would have been better. She has absolutely nothing to gain. All promises made are not guaranteed. Moreover, the proposal is insultive.

You are a genius.

beekind:

I have never seen this kind of response in forums in the western world, part of the reason we are a third world country is that people are unable to articulate themselves objectively.
What is the point of this emotional rebuttal.

If someone gives my sister that option, its her choice not mine and I wouldn't feel anything since shes not being coerced, shes being given an option which she can choose to accept or reject.

As a matter of fact, it is better to meet someone who is honest from the get go about what he wants than to marry, abandon the lady and travel back abroad which a lot of Nigerian men do , they leave their wives here and refuse to sponsor her abroad.

So me putting all my cards on the table is a sign of integrity in case you do not realise that.

Yes if my sistet is a single mother n someone gives her this condition, i will advice her to take it.At least hes been honest,instead of promising marriage knowing full well he doesnt plan to do it.

This is a clear example of: The oppressed are most likely to oppress. People like op is everything wrong with humanity. 🤮🤮🤮

Sangoamadioha1:




Story for the gods🤥😒

Don't mind the idiot and the mod that bring that rubbish to front page

[quote author=beekind post=125432833]I am in my mid 30s, very comfortable and a dual citizen of Nigeria and a first world country.
I decided to relocate back to Nigeria because of starting a family and having my own children.
Since arriving the country and based on my experiences so far, my plans have changed.

I decided to first focus on having children as I found out that the Nigerian society has become almost worse than the west in terms of sexual debauchery.

People have sex for indomine, girls commit abortion without remorse, the worst thing is that no one here uses protection and by the time your average Nigerian girl reaches 30 years old, she has aborted 4 times, slept with almost 100 men and contacted several stds in the process.

What this means is that disciplined men like me are left with these category of girls, worst still is that they come very entitled and empty and can even ruin you with their lifestyle as they are usually impossible to reform.

Solution:
I had to go back to the drawing board and re-evaluated my plan, I have an ex-girlfriend (29 years old) whom I am very close with. She fits the bill in terms of who I want as a life partner but she is a single mother.
So I gave her a choice.

Have 2 children for me, those 2 children will automatically become dual citizens and I might consider marrying you and adopting your child but even if I don't marry you, your 2 children that you have by me will be taken care of and being dual citizens of a developed country they can turn to a blessing for you and your whole family in future.

Now, let me explain, I still love this lady and my decision was premised on how uncertain I am of what my choice will be in the future as such I wanted to be very open from the beginning, but even at this point, I can not guarantee I will marry her but I could depending on what happens in future.

She's going to give me a feedback later and I am quite positive she will take the offer.

If it were you faced with this option, what would you do ?[/too much pride]

You are already in your predicament taking on 2 peoples job to raise a child by yourself so let me come into your life, compound your problems in an horseshit deal which only lets you know how much of a narcissist and an ao I am.

You no dey fear this is an invitation to be poisoned or got rid of at some point. Thank your mother and your chi you brought this here if at all true as you really are full of it.

For your mothers sake please distance yourself from that ex as she done see you finish. Help her with whatever you can and keep it moving.

You really should not be thinking like this or else you are a danger to yourself. Come off your high horse.

how

beekind:

In a country where even girls with no baggage are still searching for husbands in their mid 30s . Or who are the ladies dating all these married men.
It seems objectivity is a lost art in Nigeria as majority of Nigerians tend to ignore the reality, sometimes I think they deliberately do this or the educational system is so bad that its become really difficult to reason without emotions.

Otherwise, how would you say having a child who is a dual citizen is not a blessing, when more than half of single girls are there dating married men, so are they any better than this lady if she takes this offer ?

Kriss216:

Na this OP fit una

😂 😂 😂 😂

It surprises that women and men follow bash you oh.. 😂.. Is Nairaland changing for the better? it's in the west they have surrogate mothers, so i dont understand why they want to cut your head.

Men and women often come home to marry, go tiktok and see people queuing for Nigerian love.. so, i know the market is tuff for you guys.. ehyaa🤣.

Men that don't allow thier wives achieve anything follow bash u.. 😂 😂😂 😂 😂... the funniest part..

Ego playing out... I am quite surprised that nairaland men did not support your statement. Wow! Just wow!
Could this be changing times
You say Nigerians are currently worse than the west sexually. I hear you! With all those perverted lifestyle.

The evil in the world today is not secluded to a particular continent.

If the western world is better like you said, why not pick your baby mama from their mist?
Or you scared of child support billing? So you decided to come to Nigeria to see if you can get a gullible woman to feed your narcissist behaviour.

If the lady decides to accept this trash of a proposal, I pity her!

Pride might be your downfall...
And please change that your moniker to bee-evil!

Beosten:


I perfectly understand your concerns. The situation in Nigeria has turned almost every woman you see to those exchanging sex for money. And no matter how rich a man is, females' instinct is all about how to make money from the relationship. I will not blame women because they just have to survive. And the chance of meeting women with standards, clean, beautiful...is extremely slim.

If this woman you gave a deal accepts it, behave well until you decide to marry her, she will serve you revenge when you least expect it, especially if you manage to get her abroad.

The best option is that you forgive her for what happened in the past and ask her to marry you without giving her conditions. If you agree to follow this advice, you will just tell her that the initial deal you tabled is just a psyop as Putin's as$lickers called it when Wagna boss marched on Moscow.

The girl that betrayed me many years ago remains unmarried today and there is no any hope of getting another man because she explained her situation to me when we met recently. I would love to have her back but I'm sure her parents won't agree [/b]because I'm now a herbalist[b]. Her situation is spiritual but her parents believe Jesus will solve her issues.

In all, ask for spiritual help. A simple divination will give you 'yes' or 'no' answer to your doubts. When 'no' is returned by the oracle, it will reveal if you can turn it to yes option by doing what they prescribe. The problem may also be from your side because a well-to-do person that has defied errors in life will probably be caught at the time of marriage. If evil forces are involved in getting you trapped with marriage, oracle can also lift the problem with ease.

You are now a what?

beekind:
I am in my mid 30s, very comfortable and a dual citizen of Nigeria and a first world country.
I decided to relocate back to Nigeria because of starting a family and having my own children.
Since arriving the country and based on my experiences so far, my plans have changed.

I decided to first focus on having children as I found out that the Nigerian society has become almost worse than the west in terms of sexual debauchery.
People have sex for indomine, girls commit abortion without remorse, the worst thing is that no one here uses protection and by the time your average Nigerian girl reaches 30 years old, she has aborted 4 times, slept with almost 100 men and contacted several stds in the process.

What this means is that disciplined men like me are left with these category of girls, worst still is that they come very entitled and empty and can even ruin you with their lifestyle as they are usually impossible to reform.

Solution:
I had to go back to the drawing board and re-evaluated my plan, I have an ex-girlfriend (29 years old) whom I am very close with. She fits the bill in terms of who I want as a life partner but she is a single mother.
So I gave her a choice.

Have 2 children for me, those 2 children will automatically become dual citizens and I might consider marrying you and adopting your child but even if I don't marry you, your 2 children that you have by me will be taken care of and being dual citizens of a developed country they can turn to a blessing for you and your whole family in future.

Now, let me explain, I still love this lady and my decision was premised on how uncertain I am of what my choice will be in the future as such I wanted to be very open from the beginning, but even at this point, I can not guarantee I will marry her but I could depending on what happens in future.

She's going to give me a feedback later and I am quite positive she will take the offer.

If it were you faced with this option, what would you do ?

Bro, there's no excuse
There are virtuous ladies out there . It depends on where you're looking!
Also, it's also possible that your lust (bias) may have been the major reason you haven't found the right person.

Don't make it seem like you don't have any other options.
Who you marry is greatly dependent on your level of understanding and perception.. it's solely your responsibility

In other words, the fact that you can't find anyone good enough to marry says a whole lot about your person!

WonderMan76:


You are now a what?

You heard me right. I'm somewhat popular too.

This is Naija ooo, anything fit happen because the girl fit agree to that your deal but later lock you down, the only language you may understand is marriage and relocation, the choice is yours sha because he who goes to equity must go with clean hand or he who want equity must do equity (bros your condition bend no be for here) and poverty may push her to accept because if she is very okay in terms of finance, she will take your proposal as an insult and won't even need time to consider it.

You are going about this matter from a purely logical point of view. You shouldn't, cos practically, nothing is purely logical.
What you are asking of her is that she sees you as her palliative. A means in which she gets to move forward in life.

Ask yourself what kind of life you want to have. Do you want to be a tool for others (of course you get what you want too) or you want to have real relationships with you partner ( and still get what you want!)

beekind:
I am in my mid 30s, very comfortable and a dual citizen of Nigeria and a first world country.
I decided to relocate back to Nigeria because of starting a family and having my own children.
Since arriving the country and based on my experiences so far, my plans have changed.

I decided to first focus on having children as I found out that the Nigerian society has become almost worse than the west in terms of sexual debauchery.
People have sex for indomine, girls commit abortion without remorse, the worst thing is that no one here uses protection and by the time your average Nigerian girl reaches 30 years old, she has aborted 4 times, slept with almost 100 men and contacted several stds in the process.

What this means is that disciplined men like me are left with these category of girls, worst still is that they come very entitled and empty and can even ruin you with their lifestyle as they are usually impossible to reform.

Solution:
I had to go back to the drawing board and re-evaluated my plan, I have an ex-girlfriend (29 years old) whom I am very close with. She fits the bill in terms of who I want as a life partner but she is a single mother.
So I gave her a choice.

Have 2 children for me, those 2 children will automatically become dual citizens and I might consider marrying you and adopting your child but even if I don't marry you, your 2 children that you have by me will be taken care of and being dual citizens of a developed country they can turn to a blessing for you and your whole family in future.

Now, let me explain, I still love this lady and my decision was premised on how uncertain I am of what my choice will be in the future as such I wanted to be very open from the beginning, but even at this point, I can not guarantee I will marry her but I could depending on what happens in future.

She's going to give me a feedback later and I am quite positive she will take the offer.

If it were you faced with this option, what would you do ?

Hmmm. . . I like this guy, the reason was that he came with pure and clear intention, nothing to hide, he said he might not marry her, of course because something might occur in the future, remember 2moro is pregnant.
I like you bro...surely she will give you a positive feedback.

Beosten:


You heard me right. I'm somewhat popular too.

Okay. What can you cure?

beekind:
I am in my mid 30s, very comfortable and a dual citizen of Nigeria and a first world country.
I decided to relocate back to Nigeria because of starting a family and having my own children.
Since arriving the country and based on my experiences so far, my plans have changed.

I decided to first focus on having children as I found out that the Nigerian society has become almost worse than the west in terms of sexual debauchery.
People have sex for indomine, girls commit abortion without remorse, the worst thing is that no one here uses protection and by the time your average Nigerian girl reaches 30 years old, she has aborted 4 times, slept with almost 100 men and contacted several stds in the process.

What this means is that disciplined men like me are left with these category of girls, worst still is that they come very entitled and empty and can even ruin you with their lifestyle as they are usually impossible to reform.

Solution:
I had to go back to the drawing board and re-evaluated my plan, I have an ex-girlfriend (29 years old) whom I am very close with. She fits the bill in terms of who I want as a life partner but she is a single mother.
So I gave her a choice.

Have 2 children for me, those 2 children will automatically become dual citizens and I might consider marrying you and adopting your child but even if I don't marry you, your 2 children that you have by me will be taken care of and being dual citizens of a developed country they can turn to a blessing for you and your whole family in future.

Now, let me explain, I still love this lady and my decision was premised on how uncertain I am of what my choice will be in the future as such I wanted to be very open from the beginning, but even at this point, I can not guarantee I will marry her but I could depending on what happens in future.

She's going to give me a feedback later and I am quite positive she will take the offer.

If it were you faced with this option, what would you do ?

I think you did the right thing. But this is just and oral discussion. "You go explain tire for court ".

And apart from the promise of "your children" having dual citizen, ensure she has good life.

I am personally weary of single mothers. But the useless girl wey full street now worse

AlphaHakimi:


Victim mentality.
Tell me what is good and honorable in being a single mother(except a widow). When you hoe around during your prime, you expect a man who has worked his ass off to come and marry you as a single mother. What happened to marrying the father of your child?.

A single mother is equivalent to mentally retarded broke man. The same way you view such men is the same way men view single mothers.

Avoid premarital sex, avoid collecting any form of material or financial help from a man. That way you will be young and pure and men cannot give such conditions as stated by the OP.

The mentality of your likes about single mothers is surprising to me,single mothers are people with flesh and blood like you,they might have made mistakes,everyone does,however their kids are also blessings in the disguise if properly nurtured,that single mother you are saying is equivalent to a lunatic yen yen yen might be the mother of a Nobel prize winner or a billionaire tomorrow,there are lots of single mothers I know doing very well financially that they might not even care to get married again afterall they have kids already just get a toy boy to play and enjoy life.

neyobills:



The mentality of your likes about single mothers is surprising to me,single mothers are people with flesh and blood like you,they might have made mistakes,everyone does,however their kids are also blessings in the disguise if properly nurtured,that single mother you are saying is equivalent to a lunatic yen yen yen might be the mother of a Nobel prize winner or a billionaire tomorrow,there are lots of single mothers I know doing very well financially that they might not even care to get married again afterall they have kids already just get a toy boy to play and enjoy life.

Children should be birthed within the confines of marriage. Stop advocating for rubbish. I'm not attacking the single mothers themselves. I'm only against the act of birthing children outside marriage. ERROR HAS NO RIGHT, BUT THE MAN/WOMAN IN ERROR HAS SOME RIGHT.

With this your mentality, young girls will feel that birthing children outside marriage is good.

Stop premarital sex. Stop accepting money or financial aid from men. Stay stay chaste until you get married.

A large majority of the dysfunctional people you see today lack the presence of either parents while growing up.

If you like, encourage your sister's or daughters to become single mothers and then tell them that the kids may likely become noble prize winners tomorrow.

so with all the years that you've spent in ur "first world country" you don't find one girl/lady to make such deal with?
if u say that u really and truly love her, why did u dump her in the first place?
why make such outrageous deal with her if it's true that u love her?
how does having a dual citizenship guarantee a better life or future for an individual?
what will you do if the father of ur "would be adopted kid" later come for him/her?

AlphaHakimi:



Children should be birthed within the confines of marriage. Stop advocating for rubbish. I'm not attacking the single mothers themselves. I'm only against the act of birthing children outside marriage. ERROR HAS NO RIGHT, BUT THE MAN/WOMAN IN ERROR HAS SOME RIGHT.

With this your mentality, young girls will feel that birthing children outside marriage is good.

Stop premarital sex. Stop accepting money or financial aid from men. Stay stay chaste until you get married.

A large majority of the dysfunctional people you see today lack the presence of either parents while growing up.

If you like, encourage your sister's or daughters to become single mothers and then tell them that the kids may likely become noble prize winners tomorrow.

Single mothers are also victims of irresponsible men but your bias has only laid the blame on the single mothers

Children should be birthed in the confines of marriage agreed guys should either abstain or use protection same goes for ladies as well.

My mentality is not to encourage single mothers and not stigmatize them either,do u realize there are single mothers who deliberately want to be single mothers,they can’t stand the rigors of marriage but just want to have kids then play around,personally I don’t like it however it’s their choice and life,only feel for the kids involved.

However there are also some ladies that are victims of irresponsible men who took advantage of their emotions or naivety so the blame goes to both partners.single fathers too should share part of the blame,you kept ranting about single mothers in your first post without going hard on the irresponsible guys too.

If u like encourage your sons to stigmatize single mothers without teaching them to be responsible men and see if winning a Nobel prize would ever come into fruition.

Ibime:


If no one will tell you, you are a psychopath

The very perfect response to that.
Psychotic malignant narcissism. I pity any lady around that guy. Just like seankafor.

beekind , you have to be careful with your conditions so you don't end up a single man at 50/60 desperately looking for a lady who will be willing to marry him. It happens. I know someone who this happened to because of this same seeking for fertility/ children matter. Nothing is guaranteed. Your best bet is to keep seeking for a girl of good character and marry her. Leave all these conditions of fertility test or getting pregnant with two kids aside. Sometimes, even virgins may have delay in child bearing.

If you re finding it hard to find a girl of good character, ask your family or friends to recommend a virtuous lady they know and can vouch for. There are still good girls out there. Search well. Stop with the conditions. True love is not so conditional. What if she births two kids for you, you marry her and She becomes a thorn in the flesh to you and your family as payback? Marry her if you want to and if she's good before She births more kids which isn't even guaranteed.

Westerhoffe:
What will be your reaction if someone gives your sister such conditions?

As proud as he sounds, that's the taught process of many Nigerian females, just because a man is saying it out loud is the reason you are bringing his sister's into it. I am sure his sisters are not single mothers also. Single mother's made choices just as everyone of us and we must continually live with the consequences of our choices...

The single mom has a choice to make... I am sure she also have a guy down her street asking her out but he probably is a bolt driver, and she will weigh her choices and make a decision base on what suits her present and her future. .

WonderMan76:


Okay. What can you cure?

Any sickness or disease which resulted from spiritual attacks. But when a sickness or disease is from a natural cause, the gods can still tell the sufferer what to do to be healed or manage it with ease.