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Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 7:17pm On Nov 17, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Don't mind jaephoenix
He knows nothing
When you read or listen to the news
You hear something like 'The president said this or that'
But you did not see the president there
Someone is representing him
The Reporter did so cos everything that one said is from the President and wants the message to be passed across that way.
Imagine that during an event, when the President is to give a speech but the SA is the one standing on the podium to deliver and a journalist asks him 'Show us the president'
Jaephoenix is a mighty pretender but he keeps fooling himself
The same Jesus he calls a Roman invention is the one he's arguing on grin
Do you have comprehension issues, dvllard?
Do those representatives claim to be their principals? Do the SA claim to be the president?
Jesus clearly said he is god. He even said he existed before Abraham. Even Yahweh called him god. Please since you guys can't read, why are you in this thread?
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(op): 2:30am On Nov 18, 2023
jaephoenix:
Do you have comprehension issues, dvllard?
Do those representatives claim to be their principals? Do the SA claim to be the president?
Jesus clearly said he is god. He even said he existed before Abraham. Even Yahweh called him god. Please since you guys can't read, why are you in this thread?
Where did Jesus say 'I am God?'
Why do you talk nonsense?
Try n be reasonable
Yahweh said in his baptism 'This is my beloved son'
Angel Gabriel told Mary that the child in her womb is the son of God
Peter acknowledge him as Son of God
The demons acknowledge him as son of God
Satan challenged him to use his powers selfishly if he truly is the son of God
He was accused of blasphemy by the Jews for calling himself the son of God.

Are you aware that Yahweh called Moses as God?
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(op): 2:48am On Nov 18, 2023
jaephoenix:
1. I have shown you links that 97-99% of scientists are pro-evolution, yet you keep on babbling about 'many scientists oppose evolution'. If I ask you for evidence, you'll send me on a wild goose chase.
I have defined evolution here on this thread 3 times. But just to show you that you're dense, lemme define it one one time, this time, from a scientific site
evolution is change in the properties of groups of organisms over the course of generations…it embraces everything from slight changes in the proportions of different forms of a gene within a population to the alterations that led from the earliest organism to dinosaurs, bees, oaks, and humans

And no, scientists don't change the definition. You pulled this lie out of your lie bag. Show me the different definitions of evolution or forever shut your latrine.

2. Check google. You're sending me on another wild goose chase, right?
In case you are too daft to know what GOAT is, it means Greatest Of All Times. So I said where is the GOAT scientist you You talked about that is a Christian. Who are the most influential scientists that are Christians? I need names, not 'Check Google' . In this thread I always look for my evidence. Haven't told you to look for my evidence.

3. Ogbeni, stop lying.
Isaiah 40:22 New American Standard Bible - NASB 1995 (NASB1995) It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.

Is circle the same as sphere?

4. You have started your lies again. Do you want me to provide the screenshot where your own jw.org was talking about your mol@stations?
By the way, there are pacifist organizations and religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_anti-war_organizations

5. I didn't ask you what you do. I told you what your Holy Babble said

6. Does you babble create atoms or heal sickness? Does it create phones? So why are you comparing apples to oranges?
1. There is no such evidence. It has never happened or tested. Not even Darwin. Scientific fact tells us that living things reproduce according to their own kind. If the best of scientists with the best resources cannot replicate these things even though they claim to emerge by chance, why embrace the idea that they came by accident? Again nothing can come from nothing. Scientists don't even agree on it, not even the meaning of it... A unicellular organism has never been observed to change to bicellular or multicellular organism either by chance or by making. Also, Evolution does not bring about complexity. Stop fooling

2. The greatest scientists (plural) are/were religious people. Keep fooling

3. What is the Jewish commentary on circular? grin grin grin it was rendered same with spherical. I thought you will show us the part you claim the Bible said earth was flat since you ar3 good at lying. Fake doctor. The word chug is a term that could also be translated as circle.

4. You said it before when you lied and even created a Thread and you had problem with English comprehension. You later found yourself trying to defend poor English. Again, I said and will always say, we don't molest children. Atheists with no purpose and meaningin life as their philosophy leaves them are full of envy. Only one religion is known to be politically neutral, persecuted, attacked and killed and will rather die that to pick up sword. Why are you not a Buddhist? Why is atheism not in the list too since you guys claim to put humanity first above every other things? Nonsense

5. And I am not applying what the Bible said. Hehehe

6. Scientists create atoms? grin cheesy
You're at a lose6
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(op): 2:50am On Nov 18, 2023
jaephoenix:
1. The jw link in the OP is absolutely useless.


2.

3. Humans wear clothes for diverse reasons. Climate, identification, expressing individuality etc. The clothes worn now is obviously more complex and diversified from what was worn 150,000 years ago.
Also some animals wear some kinda 'clothes'. Caddisfly larva build themselves protective armor out of pebbles, hermit crabs wear other animal's discarded underwear, and pom pom crabs use anemones. Decorator crabs stick an assortment of things on their shells, including other living invertebrates, so the crabs blend in with their backgrounds better. Elephants plaster their backs with mud or dust, perhaps to protect themselves from sunburns. Caterpillars spin cocoons around themselves, which aren’t exactly clothes, but they are made of silk. Etc etc. At the level of their cerebral developments, those are clothes. Because our own brain is much more complex, our own clothes are thus complex. If there are aliens, they may have much more complex and specialized 'clothes'
1. If I were to mention my own reasons, I'll give 10 points

2.

3. Why do humans including very little children hide when they noticed that people are watching them naked? Why do term something are obscene?
You just use nonsense to cover nonsense. You no de reason walahi
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(op): 2:51am On Nov 18, 2023
jaephoenix:
Lol. You just brought up 'some' now after I exposed your ignorance
From someone who called himself a doctor and disagree that there are no phenotypic expressions that can be influenced by environmental factors. Prove me wrong na 😎
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(op): 2:52am On Nov 18, 2023
jaephoenix:
What do you mean by interlinking fossils?
So those fossils were fabricated? Lol.
You guys brainwashing is high quality grin
If evolution is real
There wil be interlinking classes or groups
And interlinking fossils
There's none
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(op): 2:52am On Nov 18, 2023
jaephoenix:
Do you know goats give birth? Do they have midwives?
Your gyne was referring to goats shey? grin grin grin
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(op): 2:56am On Nov 18, 2023
jaephoenix:
Those traditional maneuvers can actually damage a baby's spine.
Ask yourself this question. Those people that don't do those maneuvers, do they have abnormal babies? No. Babies are folded into byte sizes to fit into the uterus. Once they are out, they gradually and slowly 'stretch' out
Well, honestly, I don't know. To me it's kind of graphic and I have not done research. It's a traditional practice that has been occurring for centuries. I can't say about the spine but it seems to help the hands and the legs be in shape. I dunno sha. I don't think I have seen any child here in Nigeria that has not undergone such process
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(op): 3:03am On Nov 18, 2023
jaephoenix:
No sir. The pathway and reflexes involved in breathing has been replicated severally. You breathe with your brain(which issues the command)
Those pathways and reflexes are products of mindless shey?

Nasal cavity
Pharynx
Larynx
Trachea
Bronchi
Bronchioles
Alveoli
Lungs
Diaphragm
Intercostal Muscles
Pleura
Respiratory Epithelium
Red Blood Cells
Capillaries
Alveolar Epithelial Cells
Oxygen-Carrying Pigment


All these things and their interconnections are from blind chance shey?
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(op): 3:04am On Nov 18, 2023
jaephoenix:
Ditto. Mythical figures
Muhammad is also mythical figure
Walahi, sense de torment you
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(op): 3:06am On Nov 18, 2023
jaephoenix:
Q. I have posted the Bible passage here. If you missed it, scroll back
2. Which scientific facts did the babble agree?
You did not


Bible says about the circle of the Earth
Earth is hanging on nothing
DNA
Laws of gravity
The water cycle
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(op): 3:07am On Nov 18, 2023
jaephoenix:
Yes I'm well. You christians insist atheists don't know the babble, when in fact we know it more than you bumbling lot. So I'm just exposing your ignorance of the babble
You don't know anything
You claim to know what you were lied to
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(op): 3:23am On Nov 18, 2023
jaephoenix:
Those traditional maneuvers can actually damage a baby's spine.
Ask yourself this question. Those people that don't do those maneuvers, do they have abnormal babies? No. Babies are folded into byte sizes to fit into the uterus. Once they are out, they gradually and slowly 'stretch' out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIHGavTYVf0?si=REaPDLEV8Lk6OM0I
Re: Does God Exist? by budaatum: 5:15pm On Nov 18, 2023
Thorrn:
Ha. Please don't. I'm no more intelligent than you. I just love taking my time to rebut their inane statements when I get the chance. It's the dimwittedness of people like Aemmyjah that makes us look like geniuses grin grin.
I think knowing about rather very obscure Giordano Bruno is intelligent. You'd have had to dig deep to get that far, and would no doubt have learnt much along the way, and that's glaringly obvious.
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(op): 5:20pm On Nov 18, 2023
jaephoenix:
Do you have comprehension issues, dvllard?
Do those representatives claim to be their principals? Do the SA claim to be the president?
Jesus clearly said he is god. He even said he existed before Abraham. Even Yahweh called him god. Please since you guys can't read, why are you in this thread?
Where did Jesus say he is God
Who was he referring to in his words 'My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?

If Gabriel was the one saying that he existed before Abraham, is he also God?
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(op): 5:21pm On Nov 18, 2023
jaephoenix:
Do you have comprehension issues, dvllard?
Do those representatives claim to be their principals? Do the SA claim to be the president?
Jesus clearly said he is god. He even said he existed before Abraham. Even Yahweh called him god. Please since you guys can't read, why are you in this thread?
Yahweh said what
This is God or
This is my Son?
Re: Does God Exist? by Thorrn(f): 12:06pm On Nov 19, 2023
jaephoenix:
No need, Thorn. You'll be hosed with another Special Appeal fallacy, then when you argue, yet another Non Sequitor, and so on. The circular reasoning goes on and on
Lol. I know this already. I just want to see how far down the rabbit hole he's willing to go. In my experience, these guys don't usually have much depth. I like to think that I'm patient enough to handle their type.
Re: Does God Exist? by Thorrn(f): 2:02pm On Nov 19, 2023
Veecruz:
No!

I said that "no thing in this world created itself."

You missed the "in this world" part where all this God/No God issues are and exactly where the bible concentrated its focus.

No off point space travel!
I'm guessing this is Dtruthspeaker's alternate.

I don't see how qualifying your assertion with the phrase "...in this world" changes the general idea of the argument I think you're trying to make here. Furthermore, I don't see any meaningful connection your argument has with the position that God exists.

Is your God in this world or outside of it?
Re: Does God Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:33pm On Nov 19, 2023
Thorrn:
I'm guessing this is Dtruthspeaker's alternate.

I don't see how qualifying your assertion with the phrase "...in this world" changes the general idea of the argument I think you're trying to make here. Furthermore, I don't see any meaningful connection your argument has with the position that God exists.
It does shows the area and range of the valid and reasonable arguments anyone can make. For the issue of the existence of God is confined to this world that we know.

And it arises out of this world, and we are all using our knowledge and experiences in this world to make our arguments.

The bible, the first basis of our reasonable belief and the major cause of this debate also focuses on this world where we are.

Thus, "space" travel and diving into matters beyond the scope of the argument is a clear departure from the debate.

And the debate is proof of God which I have given and you did not rebut and not the proof of God's Origin and Beginning where you shifted and tried changing the argument into.

Thorrn:
Is your God in this world or outside of it?
Both!

We are always where our properties are even when we are in other places.

Hope you know that this is a departure from the argument.
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 5:09pm On Nov 21, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Yahweh said what
This is God or
This is my Son?
Did you read my earlier response, or u too have comprehension issues?
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 5:10pm On Nov 21, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Where did Jesus say 'I am God?'
Why do you talk nonsense?
Try n be reasonable
Yahweh said in his baptism 'This is my beloved son'
Angel Gabriel told Mary that the child in her womb is the son of God
Peter acknowledge him as Son of God
The demons acknowledge him as son of God
Satan challenged him to use his powers selfishly if he truly is the son of God
He was accused of blasphemy by the Jews for calling himself the son of God.

Are you aware that Yahweh called Moses as God?
Did you read my previous reply? If no, please go back and do so. I can't be repeating myself
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(op): 5:11pm On Nov 21, 2023
jaephoenix:
Did you read my previous reply? If no, please go back and do so. I can't be repeating myself
Ok
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(op): 5:11pm On Nov 21, 2023
jaephoenix:
Did you read my earlier response, or u too have comprehension issues?
Ok
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 5:18pm On Nov 21, 2023
Aemmyjah:
1. There is no such evidence. It has never happened or tested. Not even Darwin. Scientific fact tells us that living things reproduce according to their own kind. If the best of scientists with the best resources cannot replicate these things even though they claim to emerge by chance, why embrace the idea that they came by accident? Again nothing can come from nothing. Scientists don't even agree on it, not even the meaning of it... A unicellular organism has never been observed to change to bicellular or multicellular organism either by chance or by making. Also, Evolution does not bring about complexity. Stop fooling

2. The greatest scientists (plural) are/were religious people. Keep fooling

3. What is the Jewish commentary on circular? grin grin grin it was rendered same with spherical. I thought you will show us the part you claim the Bible said earth was flat since you ar3 good at lying. Fake doctor. The word chug is a term that could also be translated as circle.

4. You said it before when you lied and even created a Thread and you had problem with English comprehension. You later found yourself trying to defend poor English. Again, I said and will always say, we don't molest children. Atheists with no purpose and meaningin life as their philosophy leaves them are full of envy. Only one religion is known to be politically neutral, persecuted, attacked and killed and will rather die that to pick up sword. Why are you not a Buddhist? Why is atheism not in the list too since you guys claim to put humanity first above every other things? Nonsense

5. And I am not applying what the Bible said. Hehehe

6. Scientists create atoms? grin cheesy
You're at a lose6
1. Well, since you haven't been reading my previous posts or links on evolution, and you have no idea what evolution is, yet you keep on arguing blindly, I can't help your ignorance
2. This is the third time I'm asking this. You said the greatest scientist is a christian, I asked who. You turned to saying the greatest scientist(s) are christians. Now I'm asking which ones.
3. The bible even said the earth is flat. Read it up
4. If u say atheists are envious of christians, no problem grin
But please tell me which christian Elon Musk and Bill Gates are envying grin
5. Yes
6. Actually scientists have created atoms. And your babble hasn't created nada. I'm not responsible for your ignorance
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 5:31pm On Nov 21, 2023
Aemmyjah:
1. If I were to mention my own reasons, I'll give 10 points

2.

3. Why do humans including very little children hide when they noticed that people are watching them naked? Why do term something are obscene?
You just use nonsense to cover nonsense. You no de reason walahi
1. Go ahead
2.
3. I know they have told you not to use your brain in your Kingdom Hall, but logical reasoning isn't illegal yet, dvmmy.
We abhor unclothedness because the society, where we live in, taught us!
The early humans emerged in Africa and soon migrated over the world including the America, Asia, Australia and the Europe years ago.

Everyone used to remain naked during those times! During their evolution, the fur on their body started reducing over the period because of evolution. Also the temperature on surface of Earth at that time was as less as 4 degrees. That’s when the humans felt the need of something to cover themselves and protect from the cold.
This is when clothes were invented! They mostly covered their groin area as it is more sensitive. Females did keep their breasts exposed as no one objectified them back then.
Over the years, as man left the forests or deforested their environment and started living in groups in society, wearing clothes became a norm and signified a civilized human! Because sex had become common by then and the lust was introduced. When different colonies were established, they started making rules for living in society which prohibited nudity for these reasons!
Those humans who stayed in forests instead of moving to cities over the years still prefer to remain naked in their tribes. There are various such naked tribes and can be found all over the world, mostly in African countries!
Are they embarrassed? No, because no one told them that their private body parts are actually that private! So, they don’t feel the need to do so! And they feel amused seeing some of us in suits and ties.
We feel embarrassed because we are told at our young age to safeguard our private parts from others and it has now been a practice amongst most of the humans, just like any tradition. The reason is because the civilized humans which started staying together in colonies started invading each others privacy for satisfying their lust and unfortunately, it still continues. That is the reason we still have this practice of wearing clothes instead of being naked.
However, few of the developed countries do allow humans to roam naked legally. Check out nudist colonies.
Being naked is being natural! It’s just the society which ruins it
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 5:33pm On Nov 21, 2023
Aemmyjah:
From someone who called himself a doctor and disagree that there are no phenotypic expressions that can be influenced by environmental factors. Prove me wrong na 😎
Oga, please how can the environment change my blood group(which is a phenotypic expression)?
I’m waiting… lol 😆
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 5:33pm On Nov 21, 2023
Aemmyjah:
If evolution is real
There wil be interlinking classes or groups
And interlinking fossils
There's none
There is, dvmmy. Read up. Use internet once and educate yourself
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 5:33pm On Nov 21, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Your gyne was referring to goats shey? grin grin grin
Yup
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 5:34pm On Nov 21, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Those pathways and reflexes are products of mindless shey?

Nasal cavity
Pharynx
Larynx
Trachea
Bronchi
Bronchioles
Alveoli
Lungs
Diaphragm
Intercostal Muscles
Pleura
Respiratory Epithelium
Red Blood Cells
Capillaries
Alveolar Epithelial Cells
Oxygen-Carrying Pigment


All these things and their interconnections are from blind chance shey?
<silence>
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 5:35pm On Nov 21, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Muhammad is also mythical figure
Walahi, sense de torment you
Can you provide evidence he existed, please?
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(op): 5:38pm On Nov 21, 2023
jaephoenix:
Can you provide evidence he existed, please?
Ok
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 4:32pm On Nov 22, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
It does shows the area and range of the valid and reasonable arguments anyone can make. For the issue of the existence of God is confined to this world that we know.

And it arises out of this world, and we are all using our knowledge and experiences in this world to make our arguments.

The bible, the first basis of our reasonable belief and the major cause of this debate also focuses on this world where we are.

Thus, "space" travel and diving into matters beyond the scope of the argument is a clear departure from the debate.

And the debate is proof of God which I have given and you did not rebut and not the proof of God's Origin and Beginning where you shifted and tried changing the argument into.



Both!

We are always where our properties are even when we are in other places.

Hope you know that this is a departure from the argument.
So if you are talking about this world, who created the other 'worlds' like other planets, galaxies etc?
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