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Lagos Ownership: Don't Beat The Drums Of War, Lagos Belongs To The Aworis / Igbo Were The First Settlers In Ile-ife: Obi Of Onitsha / "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu (2) (3) (4)
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Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Karnice600: 4:18pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Procashtips(m): 4:24pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
For you to know that Edo people don't make mouth, the Oba came to Eko to remind the people of Eko about the history of Eko. You can argue and insult till tomorrow, what he said won't change and history is here to back him. You claimed Eko was existing before anyone else came, yet the Benins named the island part Eko, administered it and gave it leadership. The Portuguese named the whole state Lagos. So what exactly were the so called settlers doing then? Make una dey think! 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by scutches(m): 4:26pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Shattuck:pls can you enlighten me more on which territory benins controlled in Lagos? Just asking ooo 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by itsene: 4:27pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
seunayantokun: How silly. You are now running to a mercurial ijaw man,Dokubo for validation. What a shame I pity the fools. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by scutches(m): 4:38pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
How can benin claim lagos…the original inhabitants of Lagos are the aworis. But during the reign of King Ado, benin people conquered the aworis and name the place eko which is like a war base for the benin people. At the reign of another king, the Benin people were conquered and were chased to another quarters. Because u conquered the original inhabitants and named the place means u are the owner of the land. Before the benin people came to trade because those days they are known for their trade prowess, there are original settlers. So, for the fact that benin once fought and conquered the first and original settlers of Lagos and as that time name the place doesn’t mean that are the owner. And even history says, the benin people were Lagos conquered by the aworis in returned. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by haslaw(m): 4:51pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
His highness Oba Of Benin was probably high on weed when he made those assertions. |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Procashtips(m): 4:54pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
It was also a foreigner that named you guys Yoruba. All of you were scattered fighting eachother day and night. Egbas waging war against the Aworis Ijebus against the Oyos Ife against modakeke etc You guys were never one, the strongest of you enslaved the rest and sold them off as slaves to whoever could pay including foreigners. You were never one, hence the thousands of obas littering the south west. It was the Baatonus that named you lot Yoruba in the 15 00s due to the similarities in your dialect. As for Eko, the aworis only used parts of Lagos for fishing and farming and often travel back to where they actually reside. It was the Benins that decided to give the island area of Eko a better organization and made it administrable. They sent chiefs and kings to run Eko all the way from the Benin kingdom. These things are all online. I wonder why people just argue. |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Stoplying: 4:54pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
At least all Edo people who thought the yorubas were our friends will finally open their eyes. All that talk of "sophisticated" tribe has been blown away. Finally my people will unite and see our enemies for whom they are. You disrespect the Oba, you've disrespected all of us, you don't know us. You think you do, but you will soon learn what EMPEROR actually means. You guys mistakenly think Benin city is the extent of Benin kingdom 😂 Benin city is only the capital of Benin kingdom ! Now we know you guys, don't you come up claiming "the Oba of Benin is a Yoruba man" ever again ! You've shown your true colours once again ! 1 Like
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Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Mccullum: 4:55pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Stoplying: Stop being manipulative, go and read with open mind, my narrative is clear for unbiased person. |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Stoplying: 5:01pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Mccullum:So you still believe that the documents which I posted which clearly mention Benin kingdom and which were published before there was any Benin Republic nor any colonized Dahomey or colonised Benin, you still think those documents were actually talking about a place which you claim the French would name "Benin" in 1883, more than 140 years after the youngest of those documents was published ? 🤡 Do you understand that a document published in 1747 (youngest document I posted) can't be talking about something which took place in 1883 ? Being smart ain't your thing, but there's got to be levels to stupidity. 1 Like |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by seunayantokun(m): 5:07pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Stoplying: That's fine. |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by seunayantokun(m): 5:08pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
itsene:You're welcome. |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by seunayantokun(m): 5:11pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
GUNITGuy: Yeah. Instead of solving problems, they're creating more. I don't know what they stand to gain from it. You're blessed. |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by erniok(m): 5:21pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Dshocker:And won you say? You too believe movies pass history. Those 300 were massacred. |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Stoplying: 5:30pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
I call upon all the people of the vast empire of Benin. The emperor is under attack, therefore we all are under attack! OBA GHATO KPERE ! ISSE ! |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by tolue42(m): 5:42pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Stoplying: I am not wrong by saying colonization is different from discovery. |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by VEHINTOLAR: 6:08pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Racoon: Stop spewing gibberish,no first Oba of Lagos was a Bini man ! All those people you daylight fraudsters are calling "Benin man","Benin man" were actually Yoruba men,check their names and tittles ! That any Yoruba man traces his family lineage to Benin does not make him an ethnic Bini man originally. This is where you mumu are mixing it up ! One of the Ijaws' accounts of the history of Benin say thus while describing the arrival of Oranmiyan to the land now known today as Benin : " an influential YORUBA PRINCE from Ile Ife arrived with a very large entourage of his Yoruba people and reigned over Benin" ! This is not a made up story,the Ijaws were the nextdoor neighbors of the Binis in that region. They have some well documented history of Benin. The Ijaws equally,in their own accounts ,narrated as thus about the Benin's royalty : "the Binis are the aboriginal owners of the land but Benin's royalty is of Yoruba descent " ! These are all verifiable facts which can be looked up on the internet. That Oranmiyan married a Bini woman did not make his descendants (Eweka dynasty) ethnic Binis;they are ethnic Yoruba through their progenitor. No single ethnic Bini man has ever ruled in Isale Eko as an Oba of Lagos,never ! Did Akiolu ever claim to be an ethnic Bini man ? No,because he knows that he is a Yoruba man with his distinct family's Panelgyric which tells the story of his Yoruba root. Akiolu is not a Bini name, so also are names like - " Oyegun" ,"Dele" (Bamidele),"Tunde"(Babatunde or Yetunde for female), "Obasuyi" etc,they are all names deeply rooted in Yoruba. Ashipaogun or Ashipa,a traditional Yoruba warlord ( leader of warriors) who prepares other warriors for a battle/war is deeply rooted in Yoruba language ,it not a Bini word. Lol,stop being funny,man; which Portuguese were the first discoverers of Lagos ? The Aworis had been existing on the Island before the arrival of ANYBODY ! 1 Like |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by TOPMAN4LIFE: 6:19pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
FreeStuffsNG:Dokubo really finished Bini people here, It's pride and quest for recognition that's pushing Bini people to twist history, Historically, they are part of Yorubas because some of their words are coined from Yoruba language and they also bear Yoruba names, As they are using the title Oba in Bini, there are Yoruba obas in Cotonou Benin Republic which all believe they migrated from Ife but Bini Edo with their tiny kingdom always twist history that the whole of Yorubas took Oba title from them. Despite all the twist of history, Oba of Benin still sit behind ooni of Ife in traditional rulers gatherings, that is why Oba of Bini doesn't like to attend meetings that brings all traditional rulers together because he doesn't want to be seen at the back. 1 Like |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by VEHINTOLAR: 6:35pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
forgiveness: Ask that fool if Oduduwa was a speaker of Bini language or any Edoid one for that matter ! Those Bini cretins from that little hole of their are quite stupid. |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Stoplying: 6:41pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
VEHINTOLAR:You are confusing a fairytale character like oduduwa with a historical person who existed, yet you dare to call anybody stupid ? For the 5th time, below is a map of Africa published in 1747 by Emanuel Bowen. Locate "K. of Benin" on it, tell me if it is small. Actually, tell me which is bigger, Egypt or Benin kingdom. The map is visible by all. https://uniquemaps.eu/products/rare-old-map-of-africa-1747-by-emanuel-bowen-pre-colonial-handcoloured-slave-trade-negroland-ethiopia-barbary-nubia?currency=EUR&variant=42258879840486&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&cmp_id=20303908446&adg_id=&kwd=&device=m&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAgqGrBhDtARIsAM5s0_l-nBpsH4W1fm0fxGh3__U9yguK_6gTWi4lkrWOgu8nZN5SqdxxifIaAphwEALw_wcB 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by VEHINTOLAR: 6:45pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
goodnessme1: Yes,Olofin Ogunfunminire is an Igbo name nah,werey ! |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Omobude244: 6:55pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Tito24:did the yorubas developed Lagos? Lagos was and it is still a Nigeria project so the communities in Abuja now will now be claiming they developed Abuja abi? |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by ddeola: 6:57pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Ignorance ! |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by charsoso: 7:00pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
FreeStuffsNG: If Asari Dokubo is your heroe I deeply weep for you People like you and your heroes have nothing to spread other than insults and hatred. From his views I am very sure Asari had never picked up history books to read not to talk of him reading the Quoran. The first thing you need to ask your Asari is, how was it possible for him to become an alhaji? a Kalabari chief.... And if that was possible for him then he should have picked different history books before coming to the internet to give opinions that can be compared to a toddler or better still an illiterate 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Stoplying: 7:08pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
charsoso:It is the Nigerian mentality, all Nigerian illiterate believe they are professors. They will come out and talk confidently on things they know nothing about. I expected that dokubo fool to come out with eyewitness written documents to substantiate his claims, but none of that was seen, instead just insults and claims... I brought proof here that the Oba is right, the Yoruba pretend to have become blind and continue with their unsubstantiated claims. 1 Like |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by VEHINTOLAR: 7:10pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Stoplying: Lol ! So Oduduwa is now "a fairytale character" ,he is no longer the missing Prince "Izoduwa" or "Ekhaladeran" or whatever idiotic name you guys called him,right ?! Trust me,some of you guys are begining to exhibit strange symptoms which may not have medical explanation(s) ! Benin Kingdom my foot ! You guys are actually lizards,trust me,but quite unfortunately,you're seeing yourselves as one kind big crocodiles ! Pls,go and sleep,Bini man from a little hole ! You guys should just advise your stupid,skirt wearing ogiso masquerade to watch his mouth when next he visits Lagos or any other parts of Yoruba land because we won't be this civil or nice next time ! |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Procashtips(m): 7:12pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Stoplying: This is not necessary. We know the south West to be noise makers. They claim the Benin empire was small, yet no African country ever conquered them in a war, oyo empire had to come for a treaty (Never to fight eachother) while they went about fighting other people and kingdom. You do not need to join the noise makers. Oba of Benin came to their government house to remind them. If that's not boldness, then what is it? We don't asslick either. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Procashtips(m): 7:16pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
VEHINTOLAR: To the Yoruba, he's a fairly tale because they claimed he fell from the sky with chains and whatever. To he Benins, he was a banished prince, hence the chains he was found in. So tell me, did your ancestor fall from the sky? |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Stoplying: 7:22pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
VEHINTOLAR:Unlike you yarr.iba who just repeat the same thing like a bunch of photocopies, we actually use our brains. I've been saying this on nairaland for ten years, oduduwa is a fairytale. There is no eyewitness written document to back him up, actually literate visitors have been writing about our region since the 1400's they never wrote about any oduduwa despite meeting the Oba of Benin several times and writing about him many times. The fact some people like the fairytale doesn't make it real ! You talk like a child. We are discussing history and you are bringing up fairytales like Spiderman, oh sorry oduduwa. Look, it is not my fault that you have the intellect of a child. |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by VEHINTOLAR: 7:22pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Procashtips: Ask the idiot like you who just said that your "missing Prince Izoduwa" was fairytale;that is, he never existed ! |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Stoplying: 7:26pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
VEHINTOLAR:Now you are putting words in my mouth. I said Oduduwa never existed ! When quoting me, get the quote right ! Here it again: Oduduwa never existed, he is of the same reality as Spiderman! When dealing with history, you have to prove what you say, not hide behind the fact that other people believe in your fairytale. History is not decided by votes, it is decided by the study of eyewitness written documents ! https://uniquemaps.eu/products/rare-old-map-of-africa-1747-by-emanuel-bowen-pre-colonial-handcoloured-slave-trade-negroland-ethiopia-barbary-nubia?currency=EUR&variant=42258879840486&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&cmp_id=20303908446&adg_id=&kwd=&device=m&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAgqGrBhDtARIsAM5s0_l-nBpsH4W1fm0fxGh3__U9yguK_6gTWi4lkrWOgu8nZN5SqdxxifIaAphwEALw_wcB
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Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Procashtips(m): 7:27pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
VEHINTOLAR: Oduduwa that fell from the sky never existed. Izoduwa existed and was a banished prince from the Benin kingdom. You have no brains You still couldn't comprehend what was written? Even if it's forcefully fed into your brain, it's still going to slip off. |
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