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Lagos Ownership: Don't Beat The Drums Of War, Lagos Belongs To The Aworis / Igbo Were The First Settlers In Ile-ife: Obi Of Onitsha / "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu (2) (3) (4)
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Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Stoplying: 7:30pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Procashtips:Talk to me in private message. |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Bimpe29: 7:33pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Whose statements are we going to believe now? But, the account of Oba Bamgbade was armed with facts. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Stoplying: 7:34pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Anybody who wants to claim someone existed needs to show some documents written by an eyewitness which talks about that person. You can't magically discover an "oduduwa" with no eyewitness written documents to prove that there was such a person. |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by VEHINTOLAR: 7:35pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Stoplying: Lol,so Oduduwa is no longer "Izoduwa",right ? You guys are getting there small,small,lol ! |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Stoplying: 7:39pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
VEHINTOLAR:When did I mention "izoduwa"? look you are having a discussion with someone else and confusing him with me. I have been extremely clear. Oduduwa is a fairytale. I don't know how to be clearer, obatala is s fairytale, oranmiyan is a fairytale, all of those are just like Spiderman. |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Procashtips(m): 7:39pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Stoplying: I don't have access to it. You can drop your email or digits instead. |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Procashtips(m): 7:40pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Bimpe29: Go online and read old records/history as old as 50-800 years. Do not let the noise sway you. In the south west, they have up 1 million obas... Who takes such people serious? |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Stoplying: 7:41pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Procashtips:It would be flooded by these yarri.ba trolls. Anyways, what I want to say is that we can not descend to the level of yarri.ba by discussing fairytales. They do this because they have no history ! We do have history and can just bring up precolonial documents ! This is how we can end this cycle of shouting matches. You reason like a scientist and bring out proof, therefore exposing the ignoramuses for what they are. You don't go down to their level of discussing fairytales. You would be doing them a favour by doing that. |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Procashtips(m): 7:43pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Stoplying: This is why I said it's not necessary, let them argue with history. Do you know that even the word "Yoruba" was given to them by someone else? They were never 1 till the 1900s. 1 Like |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by VEHINTOLAR: 7:44pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
scutches: They did not conquer the Aworis,go and read or listen to Oba Bamigbade again. He was quite explicit enough ! |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Stoplying: 7:47pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
VEHINTOLAR:Again, just fairytales. No proof to back them up, their only backup is their mouths, yarri.ba. You guys are just fraudsters. I bring pre-colonial documents, you bring your mouth and that of an other yarri.ba. How typical. |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Mombebe: 7:50pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
FreeStuffsNG: Make una leave history like that, make una no distort am oo.. stupid set of people without concrete history..the fight will now to the Binis. Asari their friend is not on their side this time 🤣🤣🤣. All Yolubas should go back to Ekiti,Ondo Ogun,Osun and Ibadan Asaf, Binis own that land. That's how Oduduwa abii one diety jump down from heaven and started impregnating every woman he see and that's how the yoluba tribe came about. Coward Ronus. |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by VEHINTOLAR: 7:50pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Stoplying: Why don't you ask your fellow rats from that little hole called Benin who said so ? Why do you want to commit suicide on my mention while barking up and down like some rabbies infested dog at the same time ?! Anyway,you can continue,your foolishness is a delight to behold,ode ! |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Mombebe: 7:51pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
FreeStuffsNG: Make una leave history like that, make una no distort am oo.. stupid set of people without concrete history..the fight will now to the Binis. Asari their friend is not on their side this time 🤣🤣🤣. All Yolubas should go back to Ekiti,Ondo Ogun,Osun and Ibadan Asaf, Binis own that land. That's how Oduduwa abii one diety jump down from heaven and started impregnating every woman he see and that's how the yoluba tribe came about. Coward Ronus... |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by VEHINTOLAR: 7:57pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Stoplying:Attention seeker,continue wailing,let's see how a Bini man will become governor in Lagos or if your mumu skirt wearing ogiso masquerade will ever partake in the sharing of the Lagos State revenues or fed allocations! Bunch of evil forests dwelling cannibals from a tiny 2-LGA land,Arindin ! |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by forgiveness: 8:01pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Iykenuwa: The last Ogiso no get name? |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Nwanna2588: 8:14pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Lagos, situated in the southwestern region and distinct from the Benin (Bini) stronghold in the south-south, bears witness to a historical migration that, while acknowledging the roots of settlers from Benin, refrains from conferring ownership. To assert dominion over Lagos solely based on migration parallels the fallacy of attributing discovery to Mungo Park in a pre-existing Nigeria. The geographical proximity of Akoko Ondo to Edo would have lent credence to such claims, yet Lagos, distant from Edo, remains rooted in its original ownership. The linguistic nuances, exemplified by the shared etymology of terms like 'Oba,' do not eclipse the rightful ownership vested in the geographical locale. Despite parallels like Upper Iweka in Gabon named by the Igbo, their acknowledgement refrains from asserting unwarranted ownership, a principle that transcends borders and echoes through the historical corridors of Lagos. |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by KoshCAD: 8:39pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
This is a correct King that knows the history of his fore father. Not one that just come to claim what is not and couldn't give point to what he claimed. The mornarchs in Lagos haves been quite a long time ago, thank God they are coming out to rebuke the fallacy of one oba of Benin. |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by KoshCAD: 8:46pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
RonuRonu:No be only period, it is Frequency. |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by godofuck231: 8:48pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
FreeStuffsNG:this guy de smell , e never baff , oba never give am soap |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by KoshCAD: 8:48pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Shattuck:Na you give the Benin the territory they have? |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Stoplying: 9:04pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
KoshCAD:Precolonial map of west Africa showing that Lagos is a part of Benin: https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=150215;2 Instead of talking all sorts of nonesense, just bring proof. I have been doing this since page 5, but you guys seem to go blind each time I bring proof. Proof-based talk rather than insult-and-feelings-based talk. 1 Like
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Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Stoplying: 9:40pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
I think a civil war is coming in Nigeria. I'm buying my plane ticket to come and fight. Oba Gha tokpere! Isse ! |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by forgiveness: 9:49pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Stoplying: Where is Oyo in your map? Where is Bornu in your map? Are you saying there were no Oyo or Bornu empires in so called 1700th? Your map is fake. 1 Like |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by forgiveness: 9:55pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Stoplying: When was Lagos founded? In 17th century? Your map doesn't prove anything. The argument is, when was Lagos...Eko founded? Not who conquered Lagos or whatever. Besides, your Benin King na Yoruba man. |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Stoplying: 9:58pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
forgiveness:I gave the link of the website hosting the map. It was published in 1747, I wasn't born yet, so asking me questions about the map is a stupid thing to do. But let me help you to use your brain: 1. You are judging the map by your unsubstantiated beliefs. You are supposed to judge your unsubstantiated beliefs with help from the map. Because the map was drawn by a person who witnessed 1747. Your beliefs however are just beliefs. 2. Have you thought of the fact that countries are born, they don't exist right from the begining of time. Countries break up and give place to other countries. Take a look at a map of Europe from 1400, you will see that you can't find some countries of today and you will find countries which do not exist today. 3. The map is not fake, you just don't reason properly. 1 Like |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Tito24: 9:58pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Omobude244:but why is it only ibos that care so much about Lagos since Lagos is Nigeria project Life no suppose to hard like that Go and develop your land |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Tito24: 10:04pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
goodnessme1:because the benin do not care like you ibos do. Also you are the ones instigating them Please o Where did you see Yorubas deny the states you mentioned? |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by forgiveness: 10:09pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Procashtips: Oduduwa was real. Nothing like fairy tales. He became a diety after his death due to their believe. Nothing like prince in Edo land. You only had Ogiso and you were called Igodomigodo not Benin which is corruption of Ule Ibinu in Yoruba. |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Stoplying: 10:13pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
forgiveness:Of course, you claim a map published in 1747 to be fake because it doesn't show things which exist today (2023). Then you go and claim oduduwa fairytales and igodomigodo and ogiso fairytales are real. So as I thought, you see proof and you say it is fake, you see fairytales and say it is real. Your lack of proper education is a crime against humanity. You are the opposite of what an intelligent person is. |
Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by forgiveness: 10:19pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Stoplying: You map is fake. See another map showing Ijebu Kingdom and Awori spelt Aweri in the same 1745. Thief. Now, this map will clear your brain from your unsubstantiated ignorance.
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Re: You’re Wrong, Aworis Are Lagos First Settlers - Bamgbade Counters Oba Of Benin by Omobude244: 10:20pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
Tito24:oga i am not igbo I be edo boy and we own part of Lagos too. the yorubas should go and develop ondo and osun, that is when we will take u guys serious. not to dey shout Lagos Lagos upandan same lagos that u didnt build mumu man 1 Like |
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