Kobojunkie:
1. I can't seem to make heads or tails of your claims here. And it does not seem at all that you have full comprehension of what stated in the two verses you referenced at all.
God re-iterated this punishment for those who make themselves His enemies in Exodus 34 vs 4-7.
God made Himself clear as far as those whom He would punish for crimes against Him. God swore by His own Life when repealing the law for good reason.

It almost seems as though you are trying to force a meaning different from that intended by the authors of the texts you reference, for your own scheme.

2. But God never did any of what you claim there though. Rather, what God did in His Old Law was make each and every one in Israel a teacher... parents and grandparents were to teach His Law to their children; neighbors to neighbors, etc.
Deuteronomy 4 vs 8- 10 and Deuteronomy 6 vs 1 -7 also have the same instructions included. You need to actually read through the Law to understand what God in fact said, not continue to make baseless assumptions regarding what is written in the Law of Moses.

I don't wish to argue with anyone. We can't understand everything in the same way because we are individuals, not clones of one another.
It was interesting hearing your perspective, though. But I'm taking my leave before things get heated.

kkins25:
. I disagree. "Submitting" to the will of God is not something Jesus preach. In that context, considering that jesus is one who preaches "seek, knock until you find" and "I will turn brothers against sisters, Fathers against Suns, etc. " It cannot be "submit" because to "submit" will be to accept whatever your parents and the Pharisees teach you about "the way, the truth, and the life."

To submit to Jesus Christ means the same as to believe in and to Trust in to Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ called on His followers to trust/believe/submit to Him, and Obey His teachings and commandments. No one can approach him without first submitting to Him, even if for a moment. However, those who love Him are those who continously submit to Him.

Submitting/believing in/trusting the words of your parents or the Pharisees IS NOT the same as submitting/believing in, or trusting instead the words of Jesus Christ.

Kobojunkie:
So you don't in fact know what is written of this subject right there in scripture?

I want to know that's why we are here

Ensquare:

I want to know that's why we are here

God told you in Genesis 3

16 Then God said to the woman, “I will cause you to have much trouble when you are pregnant. And when you give birth to children, you will have much pain.
You will want your husband very much, but he will rule over you.”
17 Then God said to the man, “I commanded you not to eat from that tree. But you listened to your wife and ate from it. So I will curse the ground because of you. You will have to work hard all your life for the food the ground produces.
18 The ground will grow thorns and weeds for you. And you will have to eat the plants that grow wild in the fields.
19 You will work hard for your food until your face is covered with sweat. You will work hard until the day you die, and then you will become dust again. I used dust to make you, and when you die, you will become dust again.”
20 Adam named his wife Eve.[d] He gave her this name because Eve would be the mother of everyone who ever lived.
21 The Lord God used animal skins and made some clothes for the man and his wife. Then he put the clothes on them.
22 The Lord God said, “Look, the man has become like us—he knows about good and evil. And now the man might take the fruit from the tree of life. If the man eats that fruit, he will live forever.”
23 So the Lord God forced the man out of the Garden of Eden to work the ground he was made from.
24 God forced the man to leave the garden. Then he put Cherub angels and a sword of fire at the entrance to the garden to protect it. The sword flashed around and around, guarding the way to the Tree of Life. - Genesis 3 vs 16 - 24

Everyone who dies outside of God's Will — God's Law — is returned to the dust from which they were created— they cease to exist.

AwokenVawulence:
Probably not , 1.everyone is born into sin and must first accept Jesus as his personal saviour before he can be saved.
2. If the child is male and uncircumcised he can't enter the kingdom of heaven

Modified:abeg all those were they mention me I don hear tire no vex

But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

Templee333:
A newborn baby has more knowledge of heaven than a pastor, bishop and a pope. Heaven isn't a place you go to when you die. Heaven is always present with you but the hatred and jealousy and all manners of vile things in your heart does not allow you to become conscious of it. Your little baby is experiencing heaven until you start corupting it's pure mind with your worldly "wisdom". Parents and grown up are stumbling blocks to newborns, closing the door of heaven before them and introducing them to suffering.

This philosopher again. Where did you come across these things you propound. It's like you will form your own religion.

Dtruthspeaker:


Section 30 Criminal Code and God's Law called
Natural Law: a child under the age of seven is not criminally responsible for any act or omission. This means such a child is deemed to be incapable of committing a crime in the eyes of the law.

Hence, No Trial (Judgment Day) for them.

According to you, a child who is 6 years and 364 days is incapable of sin but then he begins to sin the next day he turns 7?
You are the same guy that says God's words ended with the book of revelations and yet you are adding strange teachings that God never revealed.

tctrills:

According to you, a child who is 6 years and 364 days is incapable of sin but then he begins to sin the next day he turns 7?
You are the same guy that says God's words ended with the book of revelations and yet you are adding strange teachings that God never revealed.

If you read more of my comments you would see that I explained how a person both children or adults are held guilty by Law and that no where in the bible do you see a single child either accused or found guilty by God.

Kobojunkie:
Rubbish!

Why do you feel that way though

LilBlaze24o:
■ Why do you feel that way though

That is obviously a result of selectively applying preselected meanings to select passages in Scripture while completely ignoring the Word of God and the intended meaning and context of the authors of the various texts.

Bluesearoll:
My brother all these epistle you wrote does not explain the Bible verse i quoted... please read it and explain to my ignorant comprehension.

Bible passage to read what God Himself said in response to your question na epistle?

Dtruthspeaker:


If you read more of my comments you would see that I explained how a person both children or adults are held guilty by Law and that no where in the bible do you see a single child either accused or found guilty by God.

I don't have issues with all you comments. But when you decide that under 7 is the magic age in which kids can't commit sin then you need to explain the source of that revelation.

Kobojunkie:
That is obviously a result of selectively applying preselected meanings to select passages in Scripture while completely ignoring the Word of God and the intended meaning and context of the authors of the various texts.

Okay. I see. But then in the context of the topic here, what do you think? Do babies go to heaven when they die? What does the bible say from your view?

Kobojunkie:


To submit to Jesus Christ means the same as to believe in and to Trust in to Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ called on His followers to trust/believe/submit to Him, and Obey His teachings and commandments. No one can approach him without first submitting to Him, even if for a moment. However, those who love Him are those who continously submit to Him.

Submitting/believing in/trusting the words of your parents or the Pharisees IS NOT the same as submitting/believing in, or trusting instead the words of Jesus Christ.

No. To submit to Jesus means to become a Jesus loving robot. I believe in Elon Musk doesn't mean I submit to him.

Because, If i submit, it means Jesus can ask me to sacrifice my son to him and i will do it. That's submission; to put his own will over mine.

Believe in is entirely different. According to my dictionary, both words aren't inter changeable or remotely similar.

kkins25:
■No. To submit to Jesus means to become a Jesus loving robot. I believe in Elon Musk doesn't mean I submit to him.
■ Because, If i submit, it means Jesus can ask me to sacrifice my son to him and i will do it. That's submission; to put his own will over mine.
■ Believe in is entirely different. According to my dictionary, both words aren't inter changeable or remotely similar.

So when you submit to your bosses or The Law and authority in your land as a citizen, you become a robot loving them?

Jesus Christ is a Constitutional Law and those who love Him are those who trust/submit to and obey Him.

2. So your National Constitution can suddenly ask you, against the law, to sacrifice your son, and it would be justified for that?

3. Try to learn to speak of only things you know of because when it comes to Scripture, all you offer are ramblings and I honestly rather do without.

LilBlaze24o:
■ Okay. I see. But then in the context of the topic here, what do you think? Do babies go to heaven when they die? What does the bible say from your view?

■ Genesis 3 vs 16 - 24 is God Himself answering that question once and for all for everyone born outside of God's Law.
■ Those who live under the Law of Moses -- all Israelites----are subject to the Law of Moses - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20.
■ Those of them who go on to become born-again are subject to judgement as ruled by Jesus Christ - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46

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More importantly, all three references are of God speaking in connection to His Laws. Any ideas expressed by men are meant to be validated against God's Law and not against a private interpretation.

Kobojunkie:
So when you submit to your bosses or The Law and authority in your land as a citizen, you become a robot loving them?

Yes. As a law-abiding citizen, I cannot share country secrets, even though I will be against it, to another country. So, yes, to some extent, I am a robot. As a freelancer, I don't have bosses. But, when I did, I worked for extra hours against my own wish, because I was robot!
Abraham attempted to murder his son because he was a robot.
Israelites murdered the inhabitants of Canaan as ordered by God because they were God-loving robots. When somebody did, the Lord brought his wrath upon them. Isn't it written, "Who dares question the will of the Lord....?"

That's robot-loving.

2. So your National Constitution can suddenly ask you, against the law, to sacrifice your son, and it would be justified for that?

If you heard a voice, that claimed to be the most high, and demanded you sacrifice your child, would you? Yes or No??

Thank God, God isn't the one who wrote the national constitution. If not, nobody would have been able to challenge it. The nation's constitution can be challenged, but no the will of God.

3. Try to learn to speak of only things you know of because when it comes to Scripture, all you offer are ramblings, and I honestly would rather do without.

There you go!

MOGs say the same thing when their interpretation of the scripture is challenged.

"You won't understand it because it is spiritual"

IF THE WILL OF GOD DEMANDS YOU ENTER A KINGDOM, TAKE THE WOMEN AS sex- SLAVES, AND KILL ALL THE CHILDREN, WOULD YOU OBEY THE WILL OF GOD? DON'T GIVE ME THAT NONSENSE THAT IT'S A DIFFERENT TIME. GOD IS BEYOND TIME, SO HE CANNOT HAVE CHANGED. GOD CAN DEMAND IT, I KNOW BECAUSE HE HAS DEMANDED OF IT IN THE PAST. SO?

Say's the "guy" who worships a "being" you've never seen nor will see nor hear, even after death! Buhahahahah!!

kkins25:
■ Yes. As a law-abiding citizen, I cannot share country secrets, even though I will be against it, to another country. So, yes, to some extent, I am a robot. As a freelancer, I don't have bosses. But, when I did, I worked for extra hours against my own wish, because I was robot!
Abraham attempted to murder his son because he was a robot. Israelites murdered the inhabitants of Canaan as ordered by God because they were God-loving robots. When somebody did, the Lord brought his wrath upon them. Isn't it written, "Who dares question the will of the Lord....?" That's robot-loving.
If you heard a voice, that claimed to be the most high, and demanded you sacrifice your child, would you? Yes or No?? Thank God, God isn't the one who wrote the national constitution. If not, nobody would have been able to challenge it. The nation's constitution can be challenged, but no the will of God.
There you go! "You won't understand it because it is spiritual" IF THE WILL OF GOD DEMANDS YOU ENTER A KINGDOM, TAKE THE WOMEN AS sex- SLAVES, AND KILL ALL THE CHILDREN, WOULD YOU OBEY THE WILL OF GOD? DON'T GIVE ME THAT NONSENSE THAT IT'S A DIFFERENT TIME. GOD IS BEYOND TIME, SO HE CANNOT HAVE CHANGED. GOD CAN DEMAND IT, I KNOW BECAUSE HE HAS DEMANDED OF IT IN THE PAST. SO? Say's the "guy" who worships a "being" you've never seen nor will see nor hear, even after death! Buhahahahah!!

In his book, The Descent of Man, Charles Darwin wrote : “Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge.”

Regurgitating the same foolish narrative fed to you by religious folks doesn't impress me at all. Crafting questions based on them... irritating. Go back through the book for your own self, read, and gain an understanding of what is in fact detailed. Then we can meaningfully dissect these things.

Kobojunkie:
In his book, The Descent of Man, Charles Darwin wrote : “Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge.”

Regurgitating the same foolish narrative fed to you by religious folks doesn't impress me at all. Crafting questions based on them... irritating. Go back through the book for your own self, read, and gain an understanding of what is in fact detailed. Then we can meaningfully dissect these things.

Oh please!! If you can tell me how you know the WILL of God, I'd concede that I'm ignorant. Otherwise, let's both continue to row on that boat.

hahahaha.. Kobo kobo kobo.. A chameleon of the scriptures. I would have said serpent, but serpent is for wise "snakes."

Anyway, what specifically are you referring to as "Foolish narrative." You often say we shouldn't give meaning to scripture but interprete it for what it is.
So, tell me, be honest,
according to scripture,

who led the Isrealites into the land of Canaan?
what was the essence of testing Abraham in such a way?
Did God not state to not spare any citizens?

excuse my ignorance, what does it mean the WILL of God? How can I access it? If you cannot answer the other questions, at least answer this.

Aemmyjah:


😂 😂 😂

I really wonder what you do on religious threads

Same way I wonder too. About you

jaephoenix:

Same way I wonder too. About you

😂

kkins25:
■ Oh please!! If you can tell me how you know the WILL of God, I'd concede that I'm ignorant. Otherwise, let's both continue to row on that boat....

It is indicated right in Scripture that the "Willl of God" is direct reference is direct reference to God's very Law, the only contract God continually calls on His people to trust and obey in order to reap the promises contained in it.

The reason most of the over 2 billion religious cases out there do not know this has to do with the fact that they are versed in the doctrines and delusions fed to them by their gods of men yet ignorant of that contained right there in Scripture. You can't seriously believe that it is OK to go around regurgitating the ignorant religious narrative yet not expect to be seen as being equally ignorant as they are, right?

Kobojunkie:
■ Genesis 3 vs 16 - 24 is God Himself answering that question once and for all for everyone born outside of God's Law.
■ Those who live under the Law of Moses -- all Israelites----are subject to the Law of Moses - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20.
■ Those of them who go on to become born-again are subject to judgement as ruled by Jesus Christ - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46

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More importantly, all three references are of God speaking in connection to His Laws. Any ideas expressed by men are meant to be validated against God's Law and not against a private interpretation.

Well I thought you gonna give a definite answer from the bible whether babies that die go to heaven.

It's fine, what about those babies who died due to still birth or miscarriage, will they also to to heaven since they are not yet been given birth to under the law...

LilBlaze24o:
■ Well I thought you gonna give a definite answer from the bible whether babies that die go to heaven.
■ It's fine, what about those babies who died due to still birth or miscarriage, will they also to to heaven since they are not yet been given birth to under the law...

I did give you the definition answer that God Himself gave to mankind. But since you would rather cling fact to the lies fed you by your gods of men even that which God Himself proclaimed rightly has no appeal whatsoever.

2. Lol... go back and clearly read my post as many times as you need to realize that it contains the answers but it just happens to you reject God even as you claim with your mouth to love Him.

Kobojunkie:
I did give you the definition answer that God Himself gave to mankind. But since you would rather cling fact to the lies fed you by your gods of men even that which God Himself proclaimed rightly has no appeal whatsoever.

2. Lol... go back and clearly read my post as many times as you need to realize that it contains the answers but it just happens to you reject God even as you claim with your mouth to love Him.

Still no answer.

Question 1: do babies go to heaven when they die?

Question 2: If you'd say they go to heaven, what about those who died in the womb or who die by miscarriage, do they go to heaven also?

LilBlaze24o:
Still no answer.
Question 1: do babies go to heaven when they die?
Question 2: If you'd say they go to heaven, what about those who died in the womb or who die by miscarriage, do they go to heaven also?

I see you are just another religious robot.

Do babies and your miscarriage meet the criteria set by Jesus Christ Himself in John 3 vs 1 - 21 as far as gaining initial access into the Kingdom of God where Heaven and Hell - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 - both ruled over by Jesus Christ exist in?

Kobojunkie:
I see you are just another religious robot.

Do babies and your miscarriage meet the criteria set by Jesus Christ Himself in John 3 vs 1 - 21 as far as gaining initial access into the Kingdom of God where Heaven and Hell - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 - both ruled over by Jesus Christ exist in?

So then, where do the babies go to when they die?

LilBlaze24o:
■ So then, where do the babies go to when they die?

Where did God tell you ---before Jesus Christ and the Law of Moses showed up ---that everyone born after God's judgement against man would go?

Kobojunkie:
■ Genesis 3 vs 16 - 24 is God Himself answering that question once and for all for everyone born outside of God's Law.
■ Those who live under the Law of Moses -- all Israelites----are subject to the Law of Moses - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20.
■ Those of them who go on to become born-again are subject to judgement as ruled by Jesus Christ - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46

---

More importantly, all three references are of God speaking in connection to His Laws. Any ideas expressed by men are meant to be validated against God's Law and not against a private interpretation.

They goes to your anus...and uterus...? Maybe oesophagus...?

CoronaVirusPro:


Oh! So all are going to hell?

Sigh…..

Which baked god do you people serve? A baby going to hell cos he/she never accepted Christ?

Sigh….

THERE IS NOTHING LIKE HELL, FOR ANY HUMAN DON'T LISTEN TO THIS SADIST PASTORS WHO DON'T READ THE BIBLE. DO YOU KNOW THAT JESUS WENT TO HELL WHEN HE DIED.?

LilBlaze24o:


So then, where do the babies go to when they die?

THEY SLEEP WAITING FOR RESURRECTION

capnies:


THERE IS NOTHING LIKE HELL, FOR ANY HUMAN DON'T LISTEN TO THIS SADIST PASTORS WHO DON'T READ THE BIBLE. DO YOU KNOW THAT JESUS WENT TO HELL WHEN HE DIED.?

Dey play...