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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Taal17: 5:09pm On Dec 11, 2023
Opeyemi007:
Background: 2 US refusals(2016/2017). I had only been to three countries(South Africa, Dubai and Seychelles). I was in my finals and the visa was refused in Abuja.

I'm a male, and I shared my visa refusal in 2017, you'd see it if you click my profile and check my posts from 2017.

2023 Application Date: September 2023
Interview Date: Today
Status: Approved

VO: Why are you going to the states?
Me: I'd like to go on a vacation to Miami and New York

Vo: Have you ever been out of the country?
Me: Yes, I have visited Eleven Countries.

VO: Where have you been in the past one year?
Me: UK(Thrice this year), France, Italy, Greece, Netherlands.(All between May and Now).

VO: What do you do?
Me: I own ***, I have owned it for five years, I have * employees, we partner with fintechs and retail stores.

VO: How much do you earn monthly?
Me: 2m

VO: How much profit monthly?
Me: Six million but it’s not fixed so it could be higher or lower.
VO: Are you married?
Me: No

VO: Do you have kids?
Me: No

VO: You should know the law has changed, and you cannot have a child in the US if you do get married.
Me: I know

VO: I'll be approving your visa, this document would tell you how to pick up your visa.
VO: Travel responsibly(I didn't understand but maybe it's because I've visited the Uk thrice this year).

I have had numerous Visa refusals, but I got a UK visa this year and that changed my life!


They said that or you wrote this wrong?
Because it's not true.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Opeyemi007: 5:21pm On Dec 11, 2023
Window 6, black lady. Na Wetin she tell me be that. Since I’m not married, I cannot/shouldn’t get married and goan born in yankee within the five years given🤷🏾‍♂️. There’s no reason to lie about anything. Unless I misunderstood her.
Taal17:


They said that or you wrote this wrong?
Because it's not true.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by NewBoyKhashoggi(m): 5:44pm On Dec 11, 2023
Taal17:


They said that or you wrote this wrong?
Because it's not true.


Hey 🤠

@ Taal17. I am supporting you here . Some people will just post into public forum and thinks every reader is a drunk 😄

How will a US Consular Officer (VO) tells a visa hopeful that .. YOU CANNOT HAVE A CHILD IN THE US IF YOU DO GET MARRIED ?

If Opeyemi007 accepts this as a typo error or exaggeration then apology is accepted. But if he insist that it's the real time occurrence at the embassy then that's a BIG LIE .

Even if any VO mistakenly says such statement while interviewing an F1 Applicant then he or she would be sanctioned.

NOTE : What section of the US immigration law state it ? Pure bunkum .


Best Wishes 🙏

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by PoliteActivist: 6:09pm On Dec 11, 2023
Opeyemi007:
Window 6, black lady. Na Wetin she tell me be that. Since I’m not married, I cannot/shouldn’t get married and goan born in yankee within the five years given🤷🏾‍♂️. There’s no reason to lie about anything. Unless I misunderstood her.

*Politeness*

@bolded, voila!
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Opeyemi007: 6:17pm On Dec 11, 2023
Wahala.... I'm telling you she said that to me! Which kind wahala be this. Sey I go de lie ontop wetin no go give me money ni? Said you cannot have a child in the US if you get married within the next five years. She was only trying to say the visa was issued for Tourism. We no need de drag ham. You weren't there.
NewBoyKhashoggi:



Hey 🤠

@ Taal17. I am supporting you here . Some people will just post into public forum and thinks every reader is a drunk 😄

How will a US Consular Officer (VO) tells a visa hopeful that .. YOU CANNOT HAVE A CHILD IN THE US IF YOU DO GET MARRIED ?

If Opeyemi007 accepts this as a typo error or exaggeration then apology is accepted. But if he insist that it's the real time occurrence at the embassy then that's a BIG LIE .

Even if any VO mistakenly says such statement while interviewing an F1 Applicant then he or she would be sanctioned.

NOTE : What section of the US immigration law state it ? Pure bunkum .


Best Wishes 🙏

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by saucekey(m): 6:29pm On Dec 11, 2023
Pls i would like to ask what documents do one need to go with when one wants to drop off for IW

Also are the documents for IW gonna be drop off at Walter carrington as stated on the appointment page

What is the minimum time frame for it to be ready for Pick up after document has been submitted

Pls it’s urgent
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by pufframmy: 9:29pm On Dec 11, 2023
Congrat bro no statement of acct was ask?

Opeyemi007:
Background: 2 US refusals(2016/2017). I had only been to three countries(South Africa, Dubai and Seychelles). I was in my finals and the visa was refused in Abuja.

I'm a male, and I shared my visa refusal in 2017, you'd see it if you click my profile and check my posts from 2017.

2023 Application Date: September 2023
Interview Date: Today
Status: Approved

VO: Why are you going to the states?
Me: I'd like to go on a vacation to Miami and New York

Vo: Have you ever been out of the country?
Me: Yes, I have visited Eleven Countries.

VO: Where have you been in the past one year?
Me: UK(Thrice this year), France, Italy, Greece, Netherlands.(All between May and Now).

VO: What do you do?
Me: I own ***, I have owned it for five years, I have * employees, we partner with fintechs and retail stores.

VO: How much do you earn monthly?
Me: 2m

VO: How much profit monthly?
Me: Six million but it’s not fixed so it could be higher or lower.
VO: Are you married?
Me: No

VO: Do you have kids?
Me: No

VO: You should know the law has changed, and you cannot have a child in the US if you do get married.
Me: I know

VO: I'll be approving your visa, this document would tell you how to pick up your visa.
VO: Travel responsibly(I didn't understand but maybe it's because I've visited the Uk thrice this year).

I have had numerous Visa refusals, but I got a UK visa this year and that changed my life!

Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Opeyemi007: 9:33pm On Dec 11, 2023
No document asked. Thanks Boss
pufframmy:
Congrat bro no statement of acct was ask?

Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by pufframmy: 9:38pm On Dec 11, 2023
Wow congratulation ones more
Opeyemi007:
No document asked. Thanks Boss
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by piscesnow(f): 10:17pm On Dec 11, 2023
The call option worked. Thanks a lot brother
NewBoyKhashoggi:



Hey 🤠

Once you click the feed back it takes you to a written space where you can type and attach document if you like then send it ...

Anyways , the physical calling is also very important. Do that and let's see .


Best Wishes 🙏
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by NewBoyKhashoggi(m): 10:49pm On Dec 11, 2023
piscesnow:
The call option worked. Thanks a lot brother


Hey 🤠


All glory to God.


Best Wishes 🙏
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Taal17: 11:12pm On Dec 11, 2023
Opeyemi007:
Window 6, black lady. Na Wetin she tell me be that. Since I’m not married, I cannot/shouldn’t get married and goan born in yankee within the five years given🤷🏾‍♂️. There’s no reason to lie about anything. Unless I misunderstood her.

No wahala
Maybe you misunderstood her .
If that is what she said though then she lied.

Congratulations on your visa.. it's great that you got approved when the visa is now 5yrs.

There is no law that currently can restrict you from getting married or having a child in the US

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Opeyemi007: 11:19pm On Dec 11, 2023
She said said something about marriage and childbirth. A lecturer from covenant uni was interviewed and she’s going to the US for a course, she came with two kids and her husband. They grilled her for more than ten minutes, gave her the visa and refused her kids and her husband. It was a mad day.
Taal17:


No wahala
Maybe you misunderstood her .
If that is what she said though then she lied.

Congratulations on your visa.. it's great that you got approved when the visa is now 5yrs.

There is no law that currently can restrict you from getting married or having a child in the US

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by puffmama: 9:28am On Dec 12, 2023
Hello everyone, please who has an idea of the appointment dates / present month available for drop box in Abuja
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by LadyCaplin: 10:13pm On Dec 12, 2023
Based on my experience and understanding of the poster's interview session, the VO was correct in stating that such visa can't be used for childbirth. A medical visa (B2) is the appropriate visa class to apply for birth tourism.

And yes, the law has indeed changed. Prior to January 2020, a B1/B2 visa could be used for birth tourism.

There is a likelihood of subsequent denials if a person uses the B1/B2 visa for childbirth during the 5years validity period.
Taal17:


No wahala
Maybe you misunderstood her .
If that is what she said though then she lied.

Congratulations on your visa.. it's great that you got approved when the visa is now 5yrs.

There is no law that currently can restrict you from getting married or having a child in the US

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Hemstone(m): 11:29pm On Dec 12, 2023
Thanks a lot

Taal17:


Answers in bold

Listen to your wife you should have filed for adjustment of status immediately you got married. It is a process on its own it's not like getting a visa. Unless you have no plans to stay back in the US I'm not sure why you were more concerned about your mum getting a green card and not yourself.

Sir,
OPT doesn't mean much, US companies can sack you with two weeks paycheck with little notice. They do it to citizens and green card holders not to talk of you working in temporary residence capacity with OPT.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Opeyemi007: 12:29am On Dec 13, 2023
Just to prove that I'm not stupid, please check this thread ( https://www.nairaland.com/4250945/give-birth-usa-cost-procedures/435 ) Check the comment from TMJO on May 27, read stories from others. Also, you should read what Ladycaplin wrote up there
NewBoyKhashoggi:



Hey 🤠

@ Taal17. I am supporting you here . Some people will just post into public forum and thinks every reader is a drunk 😄

How will a US Consular Officer (VO) tells a visa hopeful that .. YOU CANNOT HAVE A CHILD IN THE US IF YOU DO GET MARRIED ?

If Opeyemi007 accepts this as a typo error or exaggeration then apology is accepted. But if he insist that it's the real time occurrence at the embassy then that's a BIG LIE .

Even if any VO mistakenly says such statement while interviewing an F1 Applicant then he or she would be sanctioned.

NOTE : What section of the US immigration law state it ? Pure bunkum .


Best Wishes 🙏
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by NewBoyKhashoggi(m): 3:50am On Dec 13, 2023
Opeyemi007:
Just to prove that I'm not stupid, please check this thread ( https://www.nairaland.com/4250945/give-birth-usa-cost-procedures/435 ) Check the comment from TMJO on May 27, read stories from others. Also, you should read what Ladycaplin wrote up there


Hey 🤠

@ Opeyemi007. I don't click on links without knowing the source therefore i won't read those post you pointed out .

Aside that , any answer or suggestion i give out on Nairaland is based on my personal experiences or personal RIGOROUS research. Not based on any previous post .

Back to your side , i actually thought you went for an F1 Appointment, and if you check my post you will get the clue , it was later i discovered that i was on B1/B2 thread (I was actually a bit tipsy that day).

Nevertheless, i don't want to go into witty loggerhead . I want to congratulate you on your visa interview success .


Best Wishes 🙏
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Taal17: 5:15am On Dec 13, 2023
LadyCaplin:
Based on my experience and understanding of the poster's interview session, the VO was correct in stating that such visa can't be used for childbirth. A medical visa (B2) is the appropriate visa class to apply for birth tourism.

And yes, the law has indeed changed. Prior to January 2020, a B1/B2 visa could be used for birth tourism.

There is a likelihood of subsequent denials if a person uses the B1/B2 visa for childbirth during the 5years validity period.

I repeat no US LAW restricts a woman from birthing in US or getting married in the US. What you are referring to that was done in Trumps administration was a guideline for Dept of State to Consular services abroad that revised the standard for issuing B visas for temporary visitors in that revision visa officers are provided revised guidelines for assessing applicants whose primary purpose for going to the US is to birth their child. I have linked the document here and basically it says consular officers can further screen to determine if there is a medical reason why that child must be born in the US if the primary purpose of the visa is to birth. Prior to this they were told to screen if the person could afford to pay for those health services to birth that child
https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2020-01218.pdf

It is not a LAW , this is a guideline for Consular services abroad which fall under DOS (Dept of State)
How a visa officer applies this guideline is up to them which is why women are still using B1/B2 visas to birth in the US

Whether you indicate B1 which covers visit, pleasure , business, conference, short courses or B2 that covers medical on your DS 160 the visa you will be given is B1/B2.
So a B1/B2 visa can be used for dual purpose whether you indicated medical or not when you initially applied. Your purpose can be different for each time you use the visa during its duration

E,g my first visit can be for business, second trip for vacation and third trip to birth twins

Lastly note that Border patrol which grants you entry into the US is under Dept of Homeland Security not DOS and Dept of Homeland Security does not have such guideline to screen whether it is a medical reason why you want to birth in the US. What is most important to Dept Homeland Security is that you state your intent or purpose for entering the US and provide some proof of funds to pay your bills

@Opeyemi007
The above is why I said you may have misunderstood her
Now to the second point you said the visa officer mentioned something about marriage
USCIS has what they call the 90day rule, USCIS is the Fed agency responsible for among other things residence visas and citizenship.
The 90day rule applies to those on temporary visas e.g B1/B2 who file for[b] adjustment of status[/b] AOS in the US before 90 days of their stay in the US could have significant delays or denial of the AOS process because it would be deemed that they misrepresented their INTENT on admission (Border) or application (consular) that they came to the US the purpose of their visa.

EX 1. if you visit your boyfriend in the US for vacation and he proposes to you 2 weeks after you land - you go to court for registry and you return to Nigeria a married woman. 90day rule does not apply to you because you did not file to AOS in the US
Ex 2 if you visit boyfriend and after 100 days in the US he proposes to you, you go to court for registry and then apply to AOS in the US . 90day does not apply to you because it don pass 90 days.
Ex 3 if you visit boyfriend and after 20 days in the US he proposes to you, you go to court for registry and then apply to AOS in the US in less than 90days. 90day rule does apply to you because it don pass 90 days.

The appropriate visa to use if you intend to marry your fiance in the US and file for AOS in the US is what is called K1 Fiance visa and you have to get married within 90days of arriving in the US.

So that is why I said there is no LAW that currently restricts you from getting married or giving birth . There are guidelines you should follow - YES especially if you want to AOS in the US, renew your visa at consular or even be granted entry at border.

However B1/B2 visa does not restrict you from getting married or birthing in the US What if it is the guy you met at the airport that sweeps you off your feet and gbam you marry nko grin

The example you linked from the birthing in the US thread relate to people who did not declare at port of entry or when they applied for B1/B2 visa about birthing in the US, or in some cases they had medical bills that were too low or indicated they used insurance for residents and as such they have found it difficult renewing their visas at the consular in Nigeria.

Please enjoy you trip and have a great vacation

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Chefyemc: 10:38pm On Dec 13, 2023
Hello everyone,
pls ,when do I get my passport back after interview with the consular.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by hunee: 10:41pm On Dec 13, 2023
Interview with consular? Which country
Chefyemc:
Hello everyone,
pls ,when do I get my passport back after interview with the consular.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by LadyCaplin: 10:43pm On Dec 13, 2023
Thank you for this.

Whilst there is no "law" restricting a woman from giving birth in the US, there are indeed guidelines which govern the issuance of B1/B2 visas like you mentioned. For birth purposes, the appropriate visa category is B2. An applicant who is able to show proof that he/she qualifies based on the guidelines will be issued a visa and can go ahead and give birth.


Like I previously stated, the likelihood of
successfully renewing a B1/B2 visa that was declared and issued for tourism purpose but used for birth purpose would be very low based on the guidelines issued during the Trump administration which is still applicable and in force.



quote author=Taal17 post=127455455]

I repeat no US LAW restricts a woman from birthing in US or getting married in the US. What you are referring to that was done in Trumps administration was a guideline for Dept of State to Consular services abroad that revised the standard for issuing B visas for temporary visitors in that revision visa officers are provided revised guidelines for assessing applicants whose primary purpose for going to the US is to birth their child. I have linked the document here and basically it says consular officers can further screen to determine if there is a medical reason why that child must be born in the US if the primary purpose of the visa is to birth. Prior to this they were told to screen if the person could afford to pay for those health services to birth that child
https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2020-01218.pdf

It is not a LAW , this is a guideline for Consular services abroad which fall under DOS (Dept of State)
How a visa officer applies this guideline is up to them which is why women are still using B1/B2 visas to birth in the US

Whether you indicate B1 which covers visit, pleasure , business, conference, short courses or B2 that covers medical on your DS 160 the visa you will be given is B1/B2.
So a B1/B2 visa can be used for dual purpose whether you indicated medical or not when you initially applied. Your purpose can be different for each time you use the visa during its duration

E,g my first visit can be for business, second trip for vacation and third trip to birth twins

Lastly note that Border patrol which grants you entry into the US is under Dept of Homeland Security not DOS and Dept of Homeland Security does not have such guideline to screen whether it is a medical reason why you want to birth in the US. What is most important to Dept Homeland Security is that you state your intent or purpose for entering the US and provide some proof of funds to pay your bills

@Opeyemi007
The above is why I said you may have misunderstood her
Now to the second point you said the visa officer mentioned something about marriage
USCIS has what they call the 90day rule, USCIS is the Fed agency responsible for among other things residence visas and citizenship.
The 90day rule applies to those on temporary visas e.g B1/B2 who file for[b] adjustment of status[/b] AOS in the US before 90 days of their stay in the US could have significant delays or denial of the AOS process because it would be deemed that they misrepresented their INTENT on admission (Border) or application (consular) that they came to the US the purpose of their visa.

EX 1. if you visit your boyfriend in the US for vacation and he proposes to you 2 weeks after you land - you go to court for registry and you return to Nigeria a married woman. 90day rule does not apply to you because you did not file to AOS in the US
Ex 2 if you visit boyfriend and after 100 days in the US he proposes to you, you go to court for registry and then apply to AOS in the US . 90day does not apply to you because it don pass 90 days.
Ex 3 if you visit boyfriend and after 20 days in the US he proposes to you, you go to court for registry and then apply to AOS in the US in less than 90days. 90day rule does apply to you because it don pass 90 days.

The appropriate visa to use if you intend to marry your fiance in the US and file for AOS in the US is what is called K1 Fiance visa and you have to get married within 90days of arriving in the US.

So that is why I said there is no LAW that currently restricts you from getting married or giving birth . There are guidelines you should follow - YES especially if you want to AOS in the US, renew your visa at consular or even be granted entry at border.

However B1/B2 visa does not restrict you from getting married or birthing in the US What if it is the guy you met at the airport that sweeps you off your feet and gbam you marry nko grin

The example you linked from the birthing in the US thread relate to people who did not declare at port of entry or when they applied for B1/B2 visa about birthing in the US, or in some cases they had medical bills that were too low or indicated they used insurance for residents and as such they have found it difficult renewing their visas at the consular in Nigeria.

Please enjoy you trip and have a great vacation[/quote]

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by NewBoyKhashoggi(m): 12:39am On Dec 14, 2023
Chefyemc:
Hello everyone,
pls ,when do I get my passport back after interview with the consular.


Hey 🤠

If your interview was successful at the US embassy then they should give you the white paper ...which explains some things to you further ...

In other word go to your DHL pick up location where your P and visa will be waiting for you if everything goes normal .

Let's say you were interviewed on Monday , then your P should be waiting @ your DHL location by Friday or next Monday if there is no delay . You should also be able to track your visa progress.

Your question is not even comprehensive enough .


Best Wishes 🙏
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Bigolly(m): 8:57pm On Dec 14, 2023
Please how soon can someone reapply after denial?
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by LadyCaplin: 9:52pm On Dec 14, 2023
How soon are you able to secure another appointment date?

Best to reapply when there has been a significant change in ones circumstance that may have led to the denial.

Maybe you should share your interview transcript (is that what is called) so the good and knowledgeable people are able to advise.

quote author=Bigolly post=127486627]Please how soon can someone reapply after denial?[/quote]
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Kris10ien: 11:29pm On Dec 14, 2023
Please recommend good and affordable hotels around the Lagos embassy
Would really appreciate
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by flourishing247: 11:34pm On Dec 14, 2023
Taal17:


They said that or you wrote this wrong?
Because it's not true.

Please you cannot give birth in the US with a tourism visa. Which is the category he/ she applied for. Which the applicant filled in the ds 160 form. If an applicant wants to go for delivery then they apply specifically for it and it will reflect in the ds 160 form. The officers go by what is written in the ds 160 form. This is the reason for refusal of visa renewal for many people. Border patrol might not give so much stress but consular officers will refuse based on the fact that the applicant lied on the previous application. I have seen people that paid the normal price without discount yet they have been refused visas for years simply because their visa was for tourism according to their ds 160.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by flourishing247: 11:36pm On Dec 14, 2023
Opeyemi007:
Wahala.... I'm telling you she said that to me! Which kind wahala be this. Sey I go de lie ontop wetin no go give me money ni? Said you cannot have a child in the US if you get married within the next five years. She was only trying to say the visa was issued for Tourism. We no need de drag ham. You weren't there.

People don't understand that each case is different. Personal experience differs. Please abide by visa rules cos I'm sure they most have made a note on your file. They do that a lot.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Niyibamo(m): 3:07am On Dec 15, 2023
Hello all,
Please I’m in the uk.
I’ve been to Spain, France & Germany.
I’m applying for a visit visa to the us from the uk with my wife.
What advice will you give as I’m new to this.
Thanks
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Niyibamo(m): 3:56am On Dec 15, 2023
ugomnaanny:
I choose the date I previously saw march, then I refreshed again the next day and saw 21st November I immediately choose it.


Hi,
Can you please give me more info about applying from the UK.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by Ashirioluwa: 3:56am On Dec 15, 2023
My wife recently renewed her passport; however, she has an interview in early 2024. Is it necessary to update the DS 160 or her application with the new passport number?

If yes, please explain to me how to do this.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 4 by NewBoyKhashoggi(m): 5:38am On Dec 15, 2023
Ashirioluwa:
My wife recently renewed her passport; however, she has an interview in early 2024. Is it necessary to update the DS 160 or her application with the new passport number?

If yes, please explain to me how to do this.


Hey 🤠

Yes it is compulsory. She must fill another DS 160 where she will input the new passport number , she also will have to update her new passport number on her CGI page so that by the time she printed another appointment letter from the CGI , her new passport number would have been displayed.

1. Let her fill another DS 160 ...be certain that her passport photo is displayed at the end of the final submission.

2.Login to her CGI page , after logging in , click on update profile .... The page will take her to her bio data page ....she will see where to input the new DS 160 confirmation number as well as her new passport number . After that ..she will stroll downward towards the right side and click Save .

3. She should then log out and re login after 48 hours....the CGI page would have updated automatically. She will then have to click on my appointment and print it out . The new passport number and the new DS 160 number would display in the new Appointment confirmation.



Best Wishes 🙏

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