Emusan:


I'm not watchtower that twisted God's word.

I quoted a translation, don't tell me you don't read my post.

Well, I'm not watchtower, watchtower is found of doing that.

Emusan:


I provided a translation even the person you're discussing with yesterday quoted this translation "Before the world began, the Word was there. The Word was with God, and the Word was God."

Emusan:


The fact that you can't boldly say YES TWO BEGINNING can happen in a system of thing shows you're not to be taking serious.

Well, let me re-emphasize it again, YOU CANT HAVE TWO BEGINNINGS in a system of thing.

So both verse 1&2 are talking about the same BEGINNING.

Emusan:


God can't lie.
The FIRST THING TO BE CREATED IN THE BEGINNING is Heavens and the Earth. Gen 1:1.

Michael547:

Oga you are obviously denying verse 2 that says that it was in the beginning that Jesus was actually with God not before the beginning. You are simply editing bible verses with your thought.

Emusan:


I've answered this your question multiple times.

You can't have TWO BEGINNINGS in a system of thing.

FACT!!!

Emusan:


Can you even listen to yourself?

It's obvious that you don't know what you're doing here.

Michael547:

So if it was in the beginning of the creation that Jesus was with God as explained in verse 2, why was Jesus not with God before the creation of heaven and earth?

Michael547:

Show me where the bible says Jesus was with God Before The Beginning in John 1: 1-3.

Emusan:


Can you even listen to yourself?

It's obvious that you don't know what you're doing here.

Michael547:
I agree you can't have Two beginnings.

But you are the one adding before and after to those verses which are talking about the same beginnings. Verse 2 is actually talking about the beginning in verse 1. And it explains that it was at that beginning that Jesus was with God, Not before.

Emusan:


Quote verse 1 of John 1:1

because I've already done that before.

Michael547:

Oga your ESV is down there in the picture below. Please show me where the statement 'before the beginning' is used in that translation below.

Emusan:


This settled the whole thing.

So according to Gen 1:1 "Earth IN THE BEGINNING, God created the Heavens and the Earth"



I didn't add anything, you already show that you lack simple comprehension.

Take time to read my post again.

Emusan:


Oh that's my bad it ERV I mistake it for ESV.

here it is below.

But with that the point of verse 1 is that Jesus was olaced before THE BEGINNING.

Michael547:

Oga i have read your post. You are insisting that the beginning in John 1:1 is the same as Genesis 1:1. Now John 1:2 says that it was at that beginning that Jesus was with God. So where was Jesus before the beginning of the creation of heaven and earth?

Michael547:

Oga quote verse 2. Don't read only verse one.
Here is an Erv translation below

Emusan:


You can read it.

That's not ERV

Michael547:

Oga put the screenshot here and show me where you got before the beginning statement.

Emusan:


You don't even need to stress this further.

You already agreed that there can't be TWO BEGINNINGS.

So, which point do you want to make if "In The Beginning" in Gen 1:1 is different from another "In The BEGINNING" from John 1:1-2?

Emusan:


I only use BEFORE for verse 1

Definitely you don't read post before you reply.

Just wasting someone's time.

We'll check the below

Janosky:

"Thou shalt not lie"

https://biblehub.com/john/1-1.htm

Emusan Where did you invent your translation?

Did your own Bible say the 2 beings in John 1:1 had the same beginning?

Roman11:35-36, who came through the Father?

Who is the first born in Genesis 49:3

Who is the first born in Colossians 1:15?

MightySparrow:


Hello my brother. I have been checking to see MaximumSide's contribution. He seems to be more informed than his brethren in delusion here.

Christ is a mystery.Colosians 2:2. I salute all the people that have contributed of meaningfully to this topic. I am still waiting for MaximumSide and I have few questions to ask.

I may then make my contribution.
You are doing well and I salute you all.

MUMU WAILER , did you see 3 deities in Colossians 2:2?
How many beings are stated in Colossians 2:2 in your own Bible?

Idol worshipping polytheist.

Michael547:

Can see that nowhere in verse 1 and 2 the statement Jesus was with God before the beginning was stated?

Emusan:


Kai you need to go back to primary school.

This is ERV John 1:1 again, this time read it like you want to answer it in an exam tomorrow.

"Before the world began, the Word was there. The Word was with God, and the Word was God."

Well, I asked you a question which you turn blind eyes to, why?

Michael547:

If the The beginning refers to when the World began, was it that beginning in verse 2 that Jesus was with God?

Where was Jesus before the beginning of the world?

Emusan:
You're just going round in circles very pathetic.



Yes!



I've answered that before.

Don't take us back.

Why did you ignore my question?

Emusan:


That watchtower added words that are not found in the manuscripts to their translation.

Even you know this truth.


Where watchtower invented their from.

Emusan:

[quote author=Emusan post=128476733]

The translation never said THE TWO BEINGS even had a BEGINNING in the first place.

Emusan:


JaNosense

Emusan:


You tell us.

In Emusan's Bible is Every First born is a creature?
Yes.
Oga,stick this Bible truth into your brain.

Gaskiya.

Michael547:

Oga verse 2 in your translation clearly implies that Jesus was with God in the beginning not before the world began.

Why are you only showing verse 1 na? Show it together with verse 2.

Janosky:
MUMU WAILER , did you see 3 deities in Colossians 2:2?
How many beings are stated in Colossians 2:2 in your own Bible?
Idol worshipping polytheist.

Janosky:

Your own heart knows that the Watchtower did not add anything to alter the meaning of the holy scriptures.
Don't be DECEIVING YOURSELF.

Emusan you agree you came through your Father/Senior.
But you want to shift the goal post because Romans 11:35-36 is bitter pill to your delusion.
Jesus Christ came through his Father/Senior in the spiritual realm.

In Emusan's Bible Every First born is a creature.

So you created your FIRST BORN

Oga,stick this Bible truth into your brain.

Gaskiya.

Emusan:


Of course do I expect JaNosense to disagree



Where was SPIRITUAL REALM appear in Rome 11:35-36

Just remove the SPIRITUAL REALM from your point and see clearly



So you created your FIRST BORN



The same Bible truth you're running away from.

Emusan:


And your point it?



You can combine the two or you can't get ERV?

Michael547:
You yourself know that that translation sounds contradictory.

That is why most translations uses in the beginning in verse 1.

Your Erv translation does not even show in verse 1 that Jesus and God were together before the world began.

Verse 2 of your erv translation explains that 'Jesus was with God' as stated in verse 1, in the beginning of the world not even before. So I don't get where you are getting your explanation from.

Janosky:

Jesus Christ has a Father in the spiritual realm.
Emusan, do you have the same Father with Jesus in the spiritual realm?

It's now SPIRITUAL REALM

This JaNosense won't stop to amaze someone

E get why.

Oga, use your brain & cure your delusion.