stancydg:


Don't get things twisted, even though the Bible mentions Heaven, where God lives, we aren't told believers are going to live there permanently. We are told He made the earth for us, humans. Yes, there'll be a wedding feast over there and a temporary stay for us, first flight saints especially during the tribulation but the book of revelations ends with the emergence of a new heaven and a NEW EARTH,where the saints will live with Christ Jesus as their King and Light, where there'll be no weeping or sorrow.


Study again please and let me add that you should surrender to the Lordship of Jesus Christ, because He wants you to experience the beauty of a world governed by Himself.

He is patiently allowing time to prove that man can't successfully govern himself or the world, else He could have instituted the New Earth right away.

When man has fully being allowed to try his best and proven to have failed, then He'll take that action that has been preached to you since. God isn't slow, as some count slowness. He just loves humanity so much He doesn't want a single one to perish. That's a scripture paraphrased.

That's what your Bible scholars told you.

From the day Adam ate apple till date, it's enough time to prove man can't rule itself, if we are to go with Bible scholars narrative.

God doesn't need to prove anything

Sleekfingers:




Oga, Allah means God. And stop asking idiotic questions

Smiles... So the question hard for you to answer abi?

Well your own islamic allah is different from the Allah in Arabic Bible so therefore, that thing called allah Muhammad inherited from his pagan father was an idol

Major7:




Keep toiling with yourself trying to display wisdom,your case file will soon be visited.

By who? the useless gods of this world? the draco-reptilians? you cant please them.
you probably went to worship them in church today? they are both god and Satan. imagine Jesus which is Zeus or lord Zeus the devil. he is the bright and morning star, which is same as saying he is lucifer
or amen which Christians attach to prayers all the time, is amen-ra. the Egyptian god of death or Satan in simple term. he is also Jesus, the yes and amen
amen-ra is both the father son and holyspirit. a three in one god
don't let any one deceive you about hell. its fake, like the 72 virgin story. its concocted by the Greeks.
the earth is the hell, where their worms never die and akons trouble people from birth to death. after which the gods return them back to the earth from which they came
open your eyes, oh thou that sleepest!

hopefulLandlord:


Who will know more about "spiritual matters"? The entire faculties of MIT or a witch doctor from the deep jungles of Ogbomosho who has had no contact with civilisation?

Academic intelligence is immaterial here,

Yankiss:
There is no evil in heaven. So, how will u choose what is not there?

How did angels rebel then?

aliscomonaj:
Can we chat on this

Sure.. My number is on my signature..

Fatbam005:
You think everything is a joke . You better be warned

Take it easy, life's too short.

johntredon:
Elder in heave are:
Adeboye
Kumuyi
Tb Joshua
Oyedepo
Etc

Guy really you're on kolos

Procashtips:


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You're obviously hungered

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Why not send it to this acct number. The person needs it more than he does.

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hopefulLandlord:
The idea of heaven is so stupid I wonder how people believe it lol
The Bible doesn't say much about what heaven is supposed to be like. Most of the claims about heaven are exaggerations of the Bible. The Bible says the Gates are made of pearl. What are the gates for? Are they made just as an excuse to irritate clams? Are the gates supposed to keep someone out or to keep souls from escaping?

it also says the streets are paved with gold but the only reason we actually like gold so much and we attach such values to it is because they are rare and difficult to extract. Gold is malleable and can be formed as needed for use in, among others, electronics, dentistry, medical tools, and the defense, aerospace, and automotive industries. Gold is durable and noncorrosive. However gold shouldn't be valuable at all in heaven unless we'd still need to use gold for those things in heaven too which actually makes heaven just another version of earth

The sales pitch for heaven is that there is only happiness and no sorrow. But it also says that many people's loved ones won't be there. Since they can't feel sorrow about that, are they ecstatic that their loved ones are being tortured forever? Either your memories are removed or your human empathy is removed. Is it really you that is left over once some parts of you have been removed?

If life matters to me now, it will always have mattered to me, even when I am gone. Death cannot change that.

Your best hope is to be locked in a gold cage with your memories of having an actual life being erased just so you can kiss ass for eternity.

Life is pleasant, death is serene. The transition might be troublesome but we all have to go through it. You shouldn't fear death so much. Heaven and hell are imaginary. You should reject the indoctrination. Life is much better that way.

To quote a friend: "Heaven's supposed to be this really great place, right? So how come a third of the angels got pissed off??"

This is the first comment that disagrees with my opinion, yet giving me points to ponder upon instead of defending the indefensible.
I share your thoughts now.

G00dharddick:
Dear Seun

Why can everyone comment on a Christian thread but one cannot comment on a Muslim thread without asking to be converted to Islam?

Seun is an Islamist. He esteems Islam than Christianity.

The Role of elders to the King in Nollyhood movies is similar to the 24 elders to God in Heaven.

hopefulLandlord:
it also says the streets are paved with gold but the only reason we actually like gold so much and we attach such values to it is because they are rare and difficult to extract.

I guess it's a metaphor!

johntredon:
Elder in heave are:
Adeboye
Kumuyi
Tb Joshua
Oyedepo
Etc

Four already from Nigeria?

Antiislaam:


Smiles... So the question hard for you to answer abi?

Well your own islamic allah is different from the Allah in Arabic Bible so therefore, that thing called allah Muhammad inherited from his pagan father was an idol

What makes you think, I am a Muslim? I don't practice those two useless religions ( Islam and Christianity ) But I have the Quran, Bible, Torah, Gita etc
I am a traditionalist. Are you happy now.

Sleekfingers:




🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣



This one needs a psychiatric evaluation

Is only Mad people that easily recognize madness , you have made it in life ....

Just give the Doctor his phone after using it, ......yaba left is a no joke area from what I heard...

hopefulLandlord:
The idea of heaven is so stupid I wonder how people believe it lol
The Bible doesn't say much about what heaven is supposed to be like. Most of the claims about heaven are exaggerations of the Bible. The Bible says the Gates are made of pearl. What are the gates for? Are they made just as an excuse to irritate clams? Are the gates supposed to keep someone out or to keep souls from escaping?

it also says the streets are paved with gold but the only reason we actually like gold so much and we attach such values to it is because they are rare and difficult to extract. Gold is malleable and can be formed as needed for use in, among others, electronics, dentistry, medical tools, and the defense, aerospace, and automotive industries. Gold is durable and noncorrosive. However gold shouldn't be valuable at all in heaven unless we'd still need to use gold for those things in heaven too which actually makes heaven just another version of earth

The sales pitch for heaven is that there is only happiness and no sorrow. But it also says that many people's loved ones won't be there. Since they can't feel sorrow about that, are they ecstatic that their loved ones are being tortured forever? Either your memories are removed or your human empathy is removed. Is it really you that is left over once some parts of you have been removed?

If life matters to me now, it will always have mattered to me, even when I am gone. Death cannot change that.

Your best hope is to be locked in a gold cage with your memories of having an actual life being erased just so you can kiss ass for eternity.

Life is pleasant, death is serene. The transition might be troublesome but we all have to go through it. You shouldn't fear death so much. Heaven and hell are imaginary. You should reject the indoctrination. Life is much better that way.

To quote a friend: "Heaven's supposed to be this really great place, right? So how come a third of the angels got pissed off??"

WRITE ALL THESE THINGS DOWN. IF YOU ARE ABLE TO REPEAT THEM WHEN YOU ARE STANDING BEFORE GOD, YOU WILL BE PRAISED.
MY ADVICE: DON'T DARE GOD! HIS SEEMING SILENCE IS BECAUSE HE IS NOT OUR MATE.

hopefulLandlord:
The idea of heaven is so stupid I wonder how people believe it lol
The Bible doesn't say much about what heaven is supposed to be like. Most of the claims about heaven are exaggerations of the Bible. The Bible says the Gates are made of pearl. What are the gates for? Are they made just as an excuse to irritate clams? Are the gates supposed to keep someone out or to keep souls from escaping?

it also says the streets are paved with gold but the only reason we actually like gold so much and we attach such values to it is because they are rare and difficult to extract. Gold is malleable and can be formed as needed for use in, among others, electronics, dentistry, medical tools, and the defense, aerospace, and automotive industries. Gold is durable and noncorrosive. However gold shouldn't be valuable at all in heaven unless we'd still need to use gold for those things in heaven too which actually makes heaven just another version of earth

The sales pitch for heaven is that there is only happiness and no sorrow. But it also says that many people's loved ones won't be there. Since they can't feel sorrow about that, are they ecstatic that their loved ones are being tortured forever? Either your memories are removed or your human empathy is removed. Is it really you that is left over once some parts of you have been removed?

If life matters to me now, it will always have mattered to me, even when I am gone. Death cannot change that.

Your best hope is to be locked in a gold cage with your memories of having an actual life being erased just so you can kiss ass for eternity.

Life is pleasant, death is serene. The transition might be troublesome but we all have to go through it. You shouldn't fear death so much. Heaven and hell are imaginary. You should reject the indoctrination. Life is much better that way.

To quote a friend: "Heaven's supposed to be this really great place, right? So how come a third of the angels got pissed off??"

Couldn't resist giving you a reply because of so many that would read and see some 'wisdom' in all of that folly you came up with. Please take it from this internet stranger, note the date too, because today you are hinted somewhat 'matter of factly'.
When you are awake you are conscious, when you are asleep, it is another state of consciousness (that is why you have dreams and until you wake up you don't really know it's a dream because it feels so real). I put it to you that when men die, it's like permanent sleep (so no such things as ghosts, but the third that were driven from heaven and descended to earth are the smokescreen behind SO MANY things, events, trends).
That judgement and heaven and God that you made such light work of in your comments are realer than the screen you are reading this on or the eyes with which you see these words.
Considering you are an adult (all those who can tell their right hand from their left hand correctly would face that judgement, I believe), and all manner of transgressions would be forgiven except for sins against the holy spirit, it would be in your best interest, dear sir, to ask your maker for forgiveness with a repentant and contrite heart. You talked of a sales pitch, lol. Your absence would not be missed in the presence of God in heaven. In the scheme of things, you are inconsequential. So it is in your own interest, out of the love HE has for you, that you connect to HIM through the Son, Jesus. HE does not need you to be God, you actually need Him. HE is God by Himself, the One God, the true God, the good God.

Good evening

hopefulLandlord:
The idea of heaven is so stupid I wonder how people believe it lol
The Bible doesn't say much about what heaven is supposed to be like. Most of the claims about heaven are exaggerations of the Bible. The Bible says the Gates are made of pearl. What are the gates for? Are they made just as an excuse to irritate clams? Are the gates supposed to keep someone out or to keep souls from escaping?

it also says the streets are paved with gold but the only reason we actually like gold so much and we attach such values to it is because they are rare and difficult to extract. Gold is malleable and can be formed as needed for use in, among others, electronics, dentistry, medical tools, and the defense, aerospace, and automotive industries. Gold is durable and noncorrosive. However gold shouldn't be valuable at all in heaven unless we'd still need to use gold for those things in heaven too which actually makes heaven just another version of earth

The sales pitch for heaven is that there is only happiness and no sorrow. But it also says that many people's loved ones won't be there. Since they can't feel sorrow about that, are they ecstatic that their loved ones are being tortured forever? Either your memories are removed or your human empathy is removed. Is it really you that is left over once some parts of you have been removed?

If life matters to me now, it will always have mattered to me, even when I am gone. Death cannot change that.

Your best hope is to be locked in a gold cage with your memories of having an actual life being erased just so you can kiss ass for eternity.

Life is pleasant, death is serene. The transition might be troublesome but we all have to go through it. You shouldn't fear death so much. Heaven and hell are imaginary. You should reject the indoctrination. Life is much better that way.

To quote a friend: "Heaven's supposed to be this really great place, right? So how come a third of the angels got pissed off??"

"the idea of heaven is so stupid" I join you in praying for forgiveness, brother.

Bluezy13:


Deduced from the ancient Jewish religion (Judaism of the Hebrew language) and passed down to the the Greeks during the Israeli invasion by the Greeks and was subsequent adopted by the Romand after colonizing Greece during the Greco-Roman era in which a man called Jesus was reported to have been born; the religion not yet known as Christianity metamorphosed through Jesus into what was later known as Christianity.
Notwithstanding, it was not acceptable by the Romans because the Romans did not practice monotheism (one God).

But later, for political interest in order to unify the Greeks and the Romans, emperor Constantinople through three ancient councils, thus; The Council of Nicea, The Council of Constantinople and the Council of Ephesus came together in what may be know today as "conference" and spent months putting guidelines, rules and all sort of propaganda together so as to favour both the Romans and the Greeks and unified them under one rulership (The Roman Empire).
This is was possible because they found out that religion was the only tool the politics elites could use to control the masses.

Consequently, that piece that they put together is was is today known as the Bible. And had passed from one emperor to another until King James of England modified it during his rule...for an even more inhumane propaganda... to what we know today as King James Version. And the Roman Catholics are still using the Roman version
.. although modified too.

When the Roman empire disintegrated, the Portuguese which came out from the Roman empire brought that Bible to West Africa during the slave trade as a tool to control slaves.
Funny enough, before they came, copies of the Bible ....the original copies were already available in Ethiopia and other African countries.

Now we have adopted the fabricated piece which was forced on our fathers as our own religion.
This is a joke!
The man called Jesus never existed in the first place. His existence was coined from ancient religious myths.

I do not expect you to accept my explanation because I do not know your motive. But I advise you to embark on your own research on the history/origin of Christianity personally.
This is as much as I can type right now as I am a little busy.

I'll like to know your view about the creation of man or how he came into existence ? If you don't mind,tell me what you think about the Sun,Moon,Stars,Earth, Oceans,etc,did they all just come into existence by accident or what ?

hopefulLandlord:
The idea of heaven is so stupid I wonder how people believe it lol
The Bible doesn't say much about what heaven is supposed to be like. Most of the claims about heaven are exaggerations of the Bible. The Bible says the Gates are made of pearl. What are the gates for? Are they made just as an excuse to irritate clams? Are the gates supposed to keep someone out or to keep souls from escaping?

it also says the streets are paved with gold but the only reason we actually like gold so much and we attach such values to it is because they are rare and difficult to extract. Gold is malleable and can be formed as needed for use in, among others, electronics, dentistry, medical tools, and the defense, aerospace, and automotive industries. Gold is durable and noncorrosive. However gold shouldn't be valuable at all in heaven unless we'd still need to use gold for those things in heaven too which actually makes heaven just another version of earth

The sales pitch for heaven is that there is only happiness and no sorrow. But it also says that many people's loved ones won't be there. Since they can't feel sorrow about that, are they ecstatic that their loved ones are being tortured forever? Either your memories are removed or your human empathy is removed. Is it really you that is left over once some parts of you have been removed?

If life matters to me now, it will always have mattered to me, even when I am gone. Death cannot change that.

Your best hope is to be locked in a gold cage with your memories of having an actual life being erased just so you can kiss ass for eternity.

Life is pleasant, death is serene. The transition might be troublesome but we all have to go through it. You shouldn't fear death so much. Heaven and hell are imaginary. You should reject the indoctrination. Life is much better that way.

To quote a friend: "Heaven's supposed to be this really great place, right? So how come a third of the angels got pissed off??"

Judging by your friend's quote, I can't say I'm surprised.

But sincerely, how does one begin to question the content of a book when he has no idea what's in it in the first place?

Where exactly in the bible did it say there were gates of pearl in heaven?

Show me. I'm really curious.

AntiChristian:


Elders dey worship God in heaven again?

Are they worshipping the father alone or the father plus son or the trinity together cos Jesus will be at the right side separate from his father!

Where will holy spirit be?

A Christian once told me that God is like the President, Jesus, the deputy and the elders like Senate!

So where is the judiciary? Michael and Gabriel right? Lol.

Guy, Abeg no Dey comment on Christian threads, I use God beg you.

No spoil this religion for us. Leave Christian threads alone

In Christian theology, the 24 elders in heaven are often mentioned in the Book of Revelation. Their exact identity is a subject of interpretation, with some suggesting they represent symbolic or representative figures, such as patriarchs or leaders from the Old and New Testaments. The Bible does not provide explicit details about each elder, leaving room for various interpretations among different denominations and scholars.

Christlike01:


I'll like to know your view about the creation of man or how he came into existence ? If you don't mind,tell me what you think about the Sun,Moon,Stars,Earth, Oceans,etc,did they all just come into existence by accident or what ?

How things came into existence is unknown to humans as there is no valid, sustainable... without falsification... sufficient explanation to how things came into existence. Every religion has its own explanation and every religion is evil to every other religion.
Nevertheless, the absence of substantial explanation doesn't mean I should accept that of Christianity.
I am not stupid.

In Christian theology, the 24 elders in heaven are often mentioned in the Book of Revelation. Their exact identity is a subject of interpretation, with some suggesting they represent symbolic or representative figures, such as patriarchs or leaders from the Old and New Testaments. The Bible does not provide explicit details about each elder, leaving room for various interpretations among different denominations and scholars.

OKOATA:
These are the authorities; their decision affect all the creations of Ahavah (God), Shafat leads them.

The 24 Elders are the only beings with free will that are under no law. Ahavah made them in the way that naturally they will humble themselves before him.

They were the first living created-creatures/intelligence having a human-like appearance, and they are all males; none of them looks like a woman. In their natural state, their skin are pure-white (like a snow) and have no glowing effect.

However, unlike other creatures of Ahavah, the 24 Elders have no wings or any form of beastly nature. They only have one natural appearance; which is the one they were created and they live at Meltsar;
Members of the 24 Elders are:
Shafat is the leader of The 24 Elders
AMAN, AMATS, ANAH (Bald Headed), BERAKAH, CHEN, CHESED, EMUNAH, GADOL (He is second tallest Elder after Yakach), GEBURAH, HADAR, HUPOMONE, KOACH (He is fat, hefty and strong), OSHER, QARA, SHALOM, SIMCHAH, TAHOR, TIPHARAH (He is the most handsome Elder), TIQVAH, TSALACH, TUB, YAKACH ( He is the tallest Elder), YASHAR.

AHAVAH (to all the Elders) I have in you my wisdom, intelligence, and power. You shall have the right to discuss and have meetings with or without my knowledge; moreover, you shall glorify me forever.
Look around yourselves; I place you on wealth, authority, power and all my Kingdoms. (smiles) Boqer is the only star dwelling in Shamayim, I love Boqer and I have kept the POWER OF ORDER with her. Power of Order belongs to me.

You must not touch it, for whoever takes it shall die and perish in Yam-Esh Forever. (smiles) Nevertheless, I know you will never turn against me because I AM LOVE, and peace I give to you. Your praises shall ascend to me forever and you shall govern my cities.

ALL THE ELDERS (off their crowns and fall their faces to the ground. Their garments become whiter as snow and glow. They say in unison) Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure, they are and were created. Ahavah then smiles. Shafat tries to raise his right hand and his hand shakes, that he is not able to lift it.

SHAFAT (shaky voice) Holy Father; The Living One, Blessed is your name forever! Please forgive us, for we are troubled at the strength of your presence, if only you can make us survive without trembling in your presence, we shall live, else we perish in your sight. Ahavah closes his eyes and slightly faces down nodding his head, and the screen before him closes.

Then the bright light that was above the Elders goes off. The sky changes back to a big hall in Meltsar. {INT. HALL, MELTSAR} A big triangular table appears before the Elders, they pants while on the ground.

After a while, the Elders begin to stand-up one after the other, wear their crowns and sit on their chairs around the table before them. Their natural skins are as white as snow (pure white powder-like) without having a glowing effect.

Pickieox:



Oga rest. Religion is a joke, scam. Nothing will happen. God, Devil, He'll and Heaven are all fairytale that do not exist.

Do you worse😏

Sharap there! Atheism has no answer for anything, it requires more faith to be an atheist than to believe in God.
How can you believe nothing created the universe?
Yes, current evidence in science reveals that the universe (matter and energy), actually had a beginning, the question they are faced with is, what caused the universe?
Science reveals that space- time; the whole physics, all had an a beginning, then what caused the universe must be beyond space and time and not subject to the laws of physics.

Do you know that scientist have currently found out that simple cell is not simple at all? That it is well organized and advanced. It is like a whole city full of well ordered, structured and efficient machines.
You don't get these updated facts only expired theories that have being disproven that many of you know. Smh.
Try know the size of the observable universe, you will shock to your bone.

Do you know that universe has a speed limit that no technology past, present or future, nothing subject to the laws of physics can exceed? It is called the speed of light. Even if you travel with the speed of light ( impossible) it would take a hundred thousand years to reach the closest galaxy. Tell me who even reach 1000 years and that is the closest galaxy.
There are estimated 2 trillion galaxies that is the one the best technology for observation has captured and we only know less that 1% of the real universe, meaning that 2 trillion galaxies is less than 1% of the actual universe. Among those galaxies some will take you billions upon billions of years to get to if you travel at light speed.
To spoil it all for you, space is expanding faster than light meaning man will never get to these galaxies at all because a galaxy that was 100 billion light years today will become a trillion light years before you know it and it keeps increasing its distance from you so that no flesh can get there.
There are many things in nature that many people will be shocked they exist, yes they can be observed and student. Only young inexperience scientist disbelieve in the possible existence of God many experienced scientist are convinced even without the bible that there is God, but they can say it out because of the naturalist ideology that forbids the mention of God.
Why do atheist gets triggered every time is measure, because deep inside them they knew they would be in trouble if he exist, that is foolishness whether anybody believe it or not God is real and he is God and man is man and subject to the judgment of his or her creator.

Africans that don't even know the 24 elders in their African village, are asking about the 24 WHITE ghosts that they may see in WHITE heaven promised by another WHITE ghost.

Africans Christians are the most brainwashed people on the planet.

hopefulLandlord:
The idea of heaven is so stupid I wonder how people believe it lol
The Bible doesn't say much about what heaven is supposed to be like. Most of the claims about heaven are exaggerations of the Bible. The Bible says the Gates are made of pearl. What are the gates for? Are they made just as an excuse to irritate clams? Are the gates supposed to keep someone out or to keep souls from escaping?

it also says the streets are paved with gold but the only reason we actually like gold so much and we attach such values to it is because they are rare and difficult to extract. Gold is malleable and can be formed as needed for use in, among others, electronics, dentistry, medical tools, and the defense, aerospace, and automotive industries. Gold is durable and noncorrosive. However gold shouldn't be valuable at all in heaven unless we'd still need to use gold for those things in heaven too which actually makes heaven just another version of earth

The sales pitch for heaven is that there is only happiness and no sorrow. But it also says that many people's loved ones won't be there. Since they can't feel sorrow about that, are they ecstatic that their loved ones are being tortured forever? Either your memories are removed or your human empathy is removed. Is it really you that is left over once some parts of you have been removed?

If life matters to me now, it will always have mattered to me, even when I am gone. Death cannot change that.

Your best hope is to be locked in a gold cage with your memories of having an actual life being erased just so you can kiss ass for eternity.

Life is pleasant, death is serene. The transition might be troublesome but we all have to go through it. You shouldn't fear death so much. Heaven and hell are imaginary. You should reject the indoctrination. Life is much better that way.

To quote a friend: "Heaven's supposed to be this really great place, right? So how come a third of the angels got pissed off??"

I am glad U Sha know and agree that you will die one day. It's okay when you reach there you will go and confirm all of this your intelligent questions.

EMIOMOADEOYE:


Judging by your friend's quote, I can't say I'm surprised.

But sincerely, how does one begin to question the content of a book when he has no idea what's in it in the first place?

Where exactly in the bible did it say there were gates of pearl in heaven?

Show me. I'm really curious.

Revelation 21:21

Bluezy13:


You, your God, Christianity, damnation, thunder fire all of una.

Your father is a failure for raising you so poorly

Bluezy13:
The Elders are the wise counsel who advise god and deliberate on heavenly and earthly matters of utmost importance.
You know, just like the elders in movies who surround the king/emperor.

If they do not advise god, God will make a mistake and his rulership will be messed up.

Hehehe...look at how I am able to concoct a story that fits into the picture. I should start a church... or better still, my own religion.
After all, everything is a fairytale.

You're extremely stupid. More stupid than you've ever been. More idiotic and moronic than you're actually funny, lmao!

Look! Just look at your miserable self in a mirror. What do you see? A clown? Don't you see a clown? A clown, right? No actually. You are not a clown. You are a NOT!

hopefulLandlord:
The idea of heaven is so stupid I wonder how people believe it lol
The Bible doesn't say much about what heaven is supposed to be like. Most of the claims about heaven are exaggerations of the Bible. The Bible says the Gates are made of pearl. What are the gates for? Are they made just as an excuse to irritate clams? Are the gates supposed to keep someone out or to keep souls from escaping?

it also says the streets are paved with gold but the only reason we actually like gold so much and we attach such values to it is because they are rare and difficult to extract. Gold is malleable and can be formed as needed for use in, among others, electronics, dentistry, medical tools, and the defense, aerospace, and automotive industries. Gold is durable and noncorrosive. However gold shouldn't be valuable at all in heaven unless we'd still need to use gold for those things in heaven too which actually makes heaven just another version of earth

The sales pitch for heaven is that there is only happiness and no sorrow. But it also says that many people's loved ones won't be there. Since they can't feel sorrow about that, are they ecstatic that their loved ones are being tortured forever? Either your memories are removed or your human empathy is removed. Is it really you that is left over once some parts of you have been removed?

If life matters to me now, it will always have mattered to me, even when I am gone. Death cannot change that.

Your best hope is to be locked in a gold cage with your memories of having an actual life being erased just so you can kiss ass for eternity.

Life is pleasant, death is serene. The transition might be troublesome but we all have to go through it. You shouldn't fear death so much. Heaven and hell are imaginary. You should reject the indoctrination. Life is much better that way.

To quote a friend: "Heaven's supposed to be this really great place, right? So how come a third of the angels got pissed off??"

I like your thought pattern. The afterlife is really unknown.