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Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by seunayantokun(m): 2:48am On Apr 02
Konquest:

Just to help you out from the very deep ignorance you've posted here...

Many NL folks right from pages 1 and 2 have CLEARLY stated that the melon soup is eaten by several ethnicities in Nigeria and West Africa from time and the Yorubas have eaten melon soup (Obe Egunsi or Obe Egusi) from several centuries back.

The word Egusi is found in the FIRST ever Yoruba-English dictionary published in 1843! The first Ibo dictionary from 1888 written by Bishop Crowther and subsequent ones clearly have NO "Egwusi" or whatever listed in them but has Elili OR Enini which are the ORIGINAL Ibo dialectic names for melon seeds. So, it is very CLEAR based on information from even Ibo scholars below that Egusi is one of the loan words Ibo got from Yorubas in the course of their movements around or via the Igalas who as we know speak a Yoruboid language and have part Yoruba ancestries as a result of the fusion centuries back between migrants from Wukari in Taraba with a significant number of Yorubas and Edos around the River Niger and Benue confluence to form Igala according to late Attah of Igala, Michael Ameh Oboni in a 2017 newspaper interview.

For the Yoruba word called EGUSI that was already CLEARLY recorded in the Yoruba dictionary as of 1843, it is HIGHLY dishonest for some younger Ibos here and elsewhere to start claiming ownership of the spelling and word Egusi when infact several credible sources clearly list Egusi (and even Akara, and Keke) as Yoruba words as of 1843.


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://twitter.com/doluwadamilare1/status/1670471683583406083&ved=2ahUKEwjrz-XGpaKFAxXWhv0HHfVjCAQQFnoECCUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1oPcz9l05BsKEwiLR-04lc


Below is an Ibo X page stating that Egusi was borrowed from the Yorubas:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://twitter.com/maazi_ogbonnaya/status/1378825430589960193&ved=2ahUKEwjl9O_9p6KFAxVJXUEAHR0GCbMQFnoECE8QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2O9YWM70T8GUUcKcYdTjI3


Below is an Ibo FB page stating that Egusi is NOT an Ibo word but was borrowed:

https://m.facebook.com/101209985249548/posts/original-igbo-name-for-melon-is-%25C3%25A9l%25C3%25ACl%25C3%25AC-or-%25C3%25A9n%25C3%25ACn%25C3%25AC-egwusi-or-egusi-was-borrowed-but-/


Second, the Yoruba name [for what the Ibos call "Ugu"] for hundreds of years has always been SOKOYOKOTO. The English name is Fluted-pumpkin leaves from the Fluted-pumpkin plant which grows naturally in many places around the world. The fact that some folks call it Ugu doesn't mean other ethnic groups don't have their names indigenous names for it.

Many ethnic groups have their indigenous names for Fluted-pumpkin leaves. As I stated above, it's called Sokoyokoto in Yoruba language, Kabewa in Hausa, Ikong-Ubong in Efik and Ibibio, and Ugu in Ibo.


The Yoruba folks prepare the very popular Obe Sokoyokoto, while the Hausas call their type of soup Miyan Kabewa... all from Fluted-pumpkin.

The Fluted-pumpkin is a delicacy in Kenya as well and it's exported abroad.

You've done a good job, but let me add that the actual Yorùbá word for fluted pumpkin is Apìwòròkó or Wòròkó for short. Also, ṣọkọyọ̀kọ̀tọ̀ or ṣọkọ for short is a different vegetable which grows like the amaranthus (tẹ̀tẹ̀). The fluted pumpkin is a climber whose seed can also be grinded and used to make soup like ẹ̀gúsí. I understand that some people even boil the seed and eat it like a nut. So, ewé wòròkó which the Igbo call ugwu is also common to other ethnicities like the Yoruba. But I would give it to the Igbo, the Efik, and other southsouth people groups for making it popular, due to certain factors.

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Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by Konquest: 3:01am On Apr 02
seunayantokun:

You've done a good job, but let me add that the actual Yorùbá word for pumpkin is Apìwòròkó or Wòròkó for short.

Also, ṣọkọyọ̀kọ̀tọ̀ or ṣọkọ for short is a different vegetable which grows like the amaranthus (tẹ̀tẹ̀). The pumpkin is a climber whose seed can also be grinded and used to make soup like ẹ̀gúsí. I understand that some people even boil the seed and eat it like a nut.

So, ewé wòròkó which the Igbo call ugwu is also common to other ethnicities like the Yoruba. But I would give it to the Igbo, the Efik, and other southsouth people groups for making it popular, due to certain factors.
@Seunayantokun,

Thank you for the heads-up. I like the succinct way you've stated things in your post. "Ewe Woroko."

I'll do the needful right away.

Thanks again!
Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by Konquest: 3:08am On Apr 02
Tdotbluejays1:

Igbos is borrowed the word and added it to their lexicon.

The Igbo Longman dictionary below says it is a loaned word from the Yor (Yoruba).
Can you just imagine that?

Thanks for emphasizing on this and uploading it.

How can some young Ibo people online be so dishonest to start claiming ownership of a word which historically belongs to Yoruba folks. Egusi was even listed in the 1843 Yoruba-English dictionary long before the first Ibo dictionary of 1888 by Bishop Crowther.

It's clear that Egusi soup has been eaten by Yorubas for centuries.

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Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by Triangles1(m): 3:20am On Apr 02
FOOTSOLDIER2:
People asking egusi na igbo soup, Shey the name "Egusi" sounds like Yoruba or Hausa to your ears ?


I'm from Kaduna state but you people will always jealous Igbos

Face bandit and community's killing challenge in KD and stop causing fight on top something you can't define, who care if you're from Kaduna.

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Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by Soltix9y(m): 3:29am On Apr 02
I really want to understand Nigerians obsession with their tribes.
Noneroone:


https://businessday.ng/bd-weekender/article/igbo-soups-all-tribes-in-nigeria-enjoy/?amp=1
Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by Sctests: 3:35am On Apr 02
benebaby77:


Have a look at it here. Yoruba people own egusi.

Check the author of that piece. He or she is Yoruba. Even Okro (Okwuru) is an exclusively Igbo name. The word Okro was derived from the Igbo word Okwuru, nowhere else is the word found.

I have a PhD, so I can detect publications that are riddled bias and untruisms. Egwusi is not yoruba, it is Igbo and it is made with Ugwu leaves. Yorubas don't historically eat Ugwu leaves.

Igbos took the soup to Yorubaland, whose main staple soups were Ewedu, gbegiri, efo and ila soups..

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Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by seunayantokun(m): 3:56am On Apr 02
Sctests:


Check the author of that piece. He or she is Yoruba. Even Okro (Okwuru) is an exclusively Igbo name. The word Okro was derived from the Igbo word Okwuru, nowhere else is the word found.

I have a PhD, so I can detect publications that are riddles bias and untruisms. Egwusi is not yoruba, it is Igbo and it is made with Ugwu leaves.

Igbo took the soup to Yorubaland, whose main soups were Ewedu, efo and ila soups..
Please go through all posts on this thread and learn.

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Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by funshint(m): 4:02am On Apr 02
Mandate1:
try travel and see. Which Yoruba egusi? Abegi
Yoruba egusi is bey! tongue

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Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by Konquest: 4:09am On Apr 02
FOOTSOLDIER2:
People asking egusi na igbo soup, Shey the name "Egusi" sounds like Yoruba or Hausa to your ears ?


I'm from Kaduna state but you people will always jealous Igbos
You are NOT a well informed person.
The attached screenshot below is taken from the Longman dictionary of English-Ibo which CLEARLY states that Egusi is a Yoruba word that Ibos loaned! The ORIGINAL Ibo dialectic words for melon seeds are Elili OR Enini in Ibo and NOT Egusi.

The FIRST ever 1843 Yoruba dictionary (which can be downloaded for free online) CLEARLY lists the word Egusi and it truly shows that Egusi is Indeed a Yoruba word and Egusi soup has been in existence for centuries among the Yorubas.

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Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by Konquest: 4:11am On Apr 02
Omoawoke:


Egunsi is 100% a Yoruba word… E gun… meaning grind and that’s the way Egunsi is made, they will grind the melon seeds
It's indeed time to start collating the etymologies of Yoruba words and indeed, words from other ethnicities so that this kind of irritating situation doesn't occur again were the young generation of Ibos online do NOT even know about aspects of their cultural history and have to blatantly resort to poaching or laying claims to a Yoruba word and cuisine (which even Ibo scholars have CLEARLY stated in the Longman Ibo dictionary that EGUNSI (EGUSI) is a Yoruba word which Ibos loaned to create the word Egwusi).

Elili and Enini are the primary Ibo dialectic words used for melon seeds. It a big shame on all the dudes behind this disinformation.

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Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by Konquest: 4:27am On Apr 02
Makunahatata:
Egusi no b Igbo soup..den dey eat egusi for Ghana, Cameroon, Sierra Leone e.t.c .

Ghanians call it akatewa stew.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kM7brgG-ss


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnEYGLPi8Lk
Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by haffaze777(m): 4:34am On Apr 02
waternogetememy:



The word Egwusi or Egusi is your tribal language

No go carry your elili

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Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by RevenuesBoost(f): 5:25am On Apr 02
Egusi is a Yoruba word
How is it originated from Igbo tribe?


White Soup (Afia Efere Ebot), Afang soup, Editan soup, Abak soup, Atama soup and Edika Ikong soup are soups prepared by the calabar people.

Afang soup is a technical soup, most people still don't know how to get the exact taste of it.
If it was easy to prepare, Igbo for claim that one too 😂
Shey you wan cook Editan mek you know wetin dey call cooking stress😂 my own na to buy the already sliced and washed Editan leaves o.


Igbo wan fast claim the soups before the owners 😂


They like struggling things between themselves, especially land.

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Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by 2mch(m): 5:53am On Apr 02
DIVINEEVIDENCE:


Everyone eats rice in Nigeria, but we all know rice is not indigenous to Nigeria.

It's easy to identify Yoruba people on this forum.
Just post any threat about Igbos and you can rest assured that 90% of all bitter comments would be posted by Youruba sons and daughters.

Blind hatred abhors sound judgement.

Tufiakwa!
Rice is from Nigeria too. We have Ofada remember?
Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by Bulldozer90: 6:31am On Apr 02
RevenuesBoost:
Egusi is a Yoruba word
How is it originated from Igbo tribe?


White Soup (Afia Efere Ebot), Afang soup, Editan soup, Abak soup, Atama soup and Edika Ikong soup are soups prepared by the calabar people.

Afang soup is a technical soup, most people still don't know how to get the exact taste of it.
If it was easy to prepare, Igbo for claim that one too 😂
Shey you wan cook Editan mek you know wetin dey call cooking stress😂 my own na to buy the already sliced and washed Editan leaves o.


Igbo wan fast claim the soups before the owners 😂


They like struggling things between themselves, especially land.
when you lose arguement, you try to co-opt other ethnic groups into your senseless fight. Some of the ethnic groups will will be honest enough to tell you what they have was introduced by the Igbos. But pride and envy will never let you Yorubas acknowledge something that is not yours.

You claim Egwusi soup, we give you facts beyond reasonable doubt that the soup is no where near Yoruba in origin.

You start claiming it's not Igbo because it consumed across Africa, Africans tell you it was introduced to them by Nigerians.

When you see you've been defeated claiming it, you start laying claims to the name. Lol pathetic people.

Amala and Ewedu people that use stew to eat swallow want to claim better thing.

I can bet you that if any other ethnic group lays claim to the soup, you would have backed their claim out of envy for Igbos.

Tueh!

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Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by colestephan86: 6:31am On Apr 02
Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by Emlproperties: 6:40am On Apr 02
vannessa7:


It's so funny the way you make your baseless claim all because you are too narrow minded and with little horizon,
I have never heard egusi being used as cake in Yoruba land neither Apon which you call ogbono eaten as fruit ,
imagine, smh,
Yoruba have various method of cooking egusi too numerous to mention and the Apon too, there is even an ancient Yoruba proverb that says if the Apon is not slimy enough, leave it and cook okro, which is a proverb normally used to tell someone not to waste time on an impossible project, igbos own Apon indeed.
If you don't know that Ogbono which you people call Apon is a fruit while the seed is used for the soup, then no need having this argument with you.
Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by EgusiSoup: 7:16am On Apr 02
Konquest:

cheesy grin

Your moniker and initial response here cracked me up.

Honestly, I really don't understand what is going on.

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Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by Chukwuka319(m): 7:20am On Apr 02
Alexis11:

How? When? Which year??
😂
Eeyah! Are you still crying? Let me fetch a GP tank to collect your tears.
Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by Gustavowhite(m): 7:42am On Apr 02
Emlproperties:
If you don't know that Ogbono which you people call Apon is a fruit while the seed is used for the soup, then no need having this argument with you.
That person wants to use Apon/Ogbon to distract us from Egusi and it seems even you don’t know that Ogbono is gotten from ugiri Aka bush mango

No Yoruba restaurant in Lagos sells the Apon self,you can’t enter any Yoruba owned restaurant and tell them you want to buy “Obe Apon”
Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by Sctests: 8:02am On Apr 02
seunayantokun:

Please go through all posts on this thread and learn.

I have don't gone through the thread. Not a single post has enough factoids to debunk my assertions. Just emotional and biased innuendos.
Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by CSTRR: 8:12am On Apr 02
benebaby77:


I don't like having a conversation with people like you.

What did guardian newspaper called it here?

https://guardian.ng/life/how-to-make-ofe-nsala-white-soup/
Its wrong.

Ofe nsala is not white soup. There are significant differences.
Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by Tommydare(m): 8:22am On Apr 02
Pure lies. Egwusi is a corrupt word. The original word is egusi.
waternogetememy:


IT IS ACTUALLY EGWUSI AND PRONOUNCED EGUSI.

IT IS NOT A YORUBA WORD.


YOU HAVE NOTHING THAT COMES CLOSE TO THAT IN TERMS OF SOUP.


AFTER EGWUSI SEED, U WILL SEE UZIZA SEED, OGBONO SEED AND MORE. ALL IGBO SOUPS.





Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by DeepThroater: 8:23am On Apr 02
waternogetememy:



The word Egwusi or Egusi is your tribal language

You guys have failed miserably again in trying to use Nairaland to reinvent yourselves.


We know very well how you have began to use this forum to whitewash yourselves after Seun bent down for you guys and handed his forum to you.

You think Nigerians are gullible to fall into your radio Biafra tier brainwashing that they used on you ?

This topic normally would have been viewed as a honest or ignorant mistake but we know very well what your intentions are and that is to reinvent yourselves to be cultural bedrock of Nigerian cultures. This is coming after your failed Zionist reinvention of yourselves.


The person that created this topic, the people that rushed in to comment and even the mod that pushed this to FP all knew what they were doing

This topic was created in food section but most of the posters that backed the original fraud post are all very active on politics section pushing Ibo agenda .

This your lame attempt will not fly .

I am sure your success in decieving some idiots by pushing the fake Obi Messiah is what is making you guys go on overdrive to push your silly propaganda here towards reinventing yourselves into what you are not.


It's asymmetric warfare and you have chosen the cultural sphere on Nigerians .

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Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by DeepThroater: 8:29am On Apr 02
Konquest:

Can you just imagine that?

Thanks for emphasizing on this and uploading it.

How can some young Ibo people online be so dishonest to start claiming ownership of a word which historically belongs to Yoruba folks. Egusi was even listed in the 1843 Yoruba-English dictionary long before the first Ibo dictionary of 1888 by Bishop Crowther.

It's clear that Egusi soup has been eaten by Yorubas for centuries.





You don't know we are at full blown cultural war?

These guys are desperately trying to launder themselves after their failed Jewish claims blew up in their face.

FYI,the fake claims to Jewry was to get Nigerian Christians to worship them and also to give a cultural herritage to their backward primitive origins.

They bullied Seun to handover his forum to them and ever since then they have been aggressively pushing lies and propaganda here.

No aspect of our cultures and civilization is safe from these people .

We are at full blown cultural war and that is why we must stand firm and educate the younger generations of their menace.

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Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by MrGerald(m): 8:58am On Apr 02
Asswipemod:


One mookey fink just said its ogwusi. Now your own version is egwusi. Very soon we will see orgwusi or ogunwusi. 😆😆😆😆😆😜😜😜😜😜🤪🤪🤪🤪😜😆😆😆😆😆😆. Jokers!
I saw sense when it was leaving you
Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by seunayantokun(m): 9:20am On Apr 02
Sctests:


I have don't gone through the thread. Not a single post has enough factoids to debunk my assertions. Just emotional and biased innuendos.
You didn't see good references to reliable Igbo sources that indicate 'egusi' as a word was borrowed from Yoruba for use in Igbo?
Dont bother yourself any longer about it. I looked at your posts here again and observed that you don't seem to have a good grasp of the subject matter. The thread is already too long. So, let's call it a day. Or do I say let's call it a thread?
Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by SenatePresdo(m): 9:25am On Apr 02
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Still don't understand why Igbo are trying to claim Egusi soup.

Egusi is what language?

What do Yoruba people call melon?
Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by SenatePresdo(m): 9:39am On Apr 02
benebaby77:
Egushi soup is not Igbo soup...

I think South South owns White Soup Ofe Nsala


Ooops, you didn't include Ogbono. Almost everyone enjoys Ogbono soup


PS: Egusi soup is a native to Yoruba people.

The person that compiled this list could be ignorant as well.


Because Sultan or Emir is Fulani not Hausa
Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by Aragon001: 9:47am On Apr 02
Sctests:


Check the author of that piece. He or she is Yoruba. Even Okro (Okwuru) is an exclusively Igbo name. The word Okro was derived from the Igbo word Okwuru, nowhere else is the word found.

I have a PhD, so I can detect publications that are riddled bias and untruisms. Egwusi is not yoruba, it is Igbo and it is made with Ugwu leaves. Yorubas don't historically eat Ugwu leaves.

Igbos took the soup to Yorubaland, whose main staple soups were Ewedu, efo and ila soups..
Oga carry ur PhD go throw for dustbin, u don't know jack. Majority of responds here dispute that egusi soup is not / originated from the ibo people and u are here writing nonsense.
Better borrow brain.

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Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by AmuDimpka: 9:52am On Apr 02
Sctests:


Check the author of that piece. He or she is Yoruba. Even Okro (Okwuru) is an exclusively Igbo name. The word Okro was derived from the Igbo word Okwuru, nowhere else is the word found.

I have a PhD, so I can detect publications that are riddled bias and untruisms. Egwusi is not yoruba, it is Igbo and it is made with Ugwu leaves. Yorubas don't historically eat Ugwu leaves.

Igbos took the soup to Yorubaland, whose main staple soups were Ewedu, efo and ila soups..

Okwuru (Okro) in pure Igbo ...meaning to stand tall . The Okro tree is tall

Egwusi is pure Igbo name

Ogbono is pure Igbo name
Re: Igbo Soups All Nigerian Tribes Enjoy by Dsimmer: 9:59am On Apr 02
Sctests:


Check the author of that piece. He or she is Yoruba. Even Okro (Okwuru) is an exclusively Igbo name. The word Okro was derived from the Igbo word Okwuru, nowhere else is the word found.

I have a PhD, so I can detect publications that are riddled bias and untruisms. Egwusi is not yoruba, it is Igbo and it is made with Ugwu leaves. Yorubas don't historically eat Ugwu leaves.

Igbos took the soup to Yorubaland, whose main staple soups were Ewedu, efo and ila soups..


Egusi is Yoruba name. Qed. Yoruba even has several delicacy varieties of it. It's an Orunmila soup as a matter of fact and it's a Yoruba name with several delicacy varieties of it. Qed. We deal in fact, not stupidity and fallacy.

As for okra, Igbo simply called it okwuru because okra was the name introduced to the Igbo. It was introduced to the Igbos as okra but Igbo couldn't pronounce it thus pronunced it as okwurru.

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