Where's the lie? You want the best for your daughter why is it wrong for her to want the best for herself?

Eunoiaa:


So you want to get married, and you will not be financially buoyant? Is that what you're saying? If you cannot comfortably take care of your own daily needs and feeding and all, you will get married? In today's world? Nah, if you think that's realistic in any way, godspeed to you then.

There's nothing uncommon about what I'm saying or that's outrageous- everybody should be a responsible adult. There's nothing y'all are suggesting that our mothers haven't tried and gone through. Yet we see how their marriages mostly are.



No, you saying a man should provide while a woman nurtures is you selling yourself short rather, because I noticed you're not even saying the man should also support you in nurturing? You want to share in his own 'role', while your own is solely yours? Why work at all, since it's not a woman's place to contribute? Because at what point will your job and deference to your boss outside clash with your wifely duties at home to your husband? Unless you're recommending being a supermom who can balance all these together.



My baby, this outcome is the result of "supporting him while you do yours." Don't you see the correlation? You either chip in or don't chip in at all. And if you want to chip in, make it significant so you can know that you did something. It is not the 'separation of gender roles' that'll make a man not demand provision of you 'till the last straw, it is because he is an inconsiderate person and can equally demand the last of your emotional labour until the last straw. I'm not coming from a career/independent/providing vs. homemaker/stay-at-home/non-providing place. Dropping money down can never match school runs; diaper runs; schoolkids' runs; house runs; domestic and extended family runs, and sex runs. Is it presenting yourself as a nurturer, too, that they won't exploit? If all those runs are solely for you to do, then why do you still want to chip in and support him? It's like you want to be seen as being both independent and traditional, when you can just stick to one thing you want to be. Be both homely and providing, or outsource to a nanny and enjoy your lives as a couple, or one's duties doesn't cross into the other's at all.



This is another point. The 22-year-olds are not doting nurturers to these men. They leave their virtuous, 'non-equal' homemaker wives too to run after businesswomen. So, again, it is not doing or doing gender roles that'll stop men from doing or demanding whatever they want. Thinking it's only 'independent' women they leave alone at home is just a coping thought lol.



Again, semantics. Supporting him in providing is not co-providing?



But they also ask a 'nurturing woman' what she has contributed to a man's life, if he wants to divorce her later on after years of marriage. And they also blame a nurturing woman for turning the minds of the children away from an emotionally absent father.

It IS having things in your name, having a paper trail of major financial contributions to the home that ensures that one is not kicked out and left with no properties in the end should a man decide he wants divorce, at least.

On the sex part. See the woman has the right to claim that just as the man has the right to calm money. Sex is different in marriage, it becomes more of a responsibility so if she sees it as a big deal, let her be. There's no need for anyone to sound politically correct about it.

Let's bring it to the street...

You dey fvck person, you no take care of the body you dey fvck, who does that? Even the usual sex worker gets down under a roof with fan/AC and good bed after eating and drinking. Shey na married woman supposed dey knack on empty stomach? Abegii !
If the lady takes sex off the table because her husband does not provide she's within her right same way a man can quit providing if the wife is not performing her duties. It's what they both offer.

No wahala. As to this one, I believe the men have come and will come up with perfect arrangements for that.


Someone up there said the man should only provide when he needs sex. I mean, sex lasts for a few minutes, an hour at most. So maybe they'll come up with a measurement rooster for how much provision will get a period of sex.

And saying this is what a particular couple choose to do is quite different from saying this is what all couples ought to do as "man and woman", else their marriage is a waiting disaster.

That's my own grouse. It is not a one-size-fits-all thing.

Hmm

So she derives no pleasure from the sex? What makes her think sex is every night?

She's probably too young to understand

Proserpina:
Where's the lie in her post?

As a man it is your responsibility to take care of your woman, if you can't you have no business with marriage.

Proserpina:
I had to reread the initial post again to see where you deduced this from. The woman clearly described a man who doesn't care to provide the least (feeding ) not one who tried but failed. He's not providing but wants to keep enjoying the benefit of marriage. Lets say she assumes the post of a provider to show she's a "proper wife" until when will she continue to do that for someone who doesn't care? Please be realistic. She didn't say she won't support, she only said she will support the person who tries. Please reread her post.

Men have been leaving women for the slightest excuse, so don't blame women who would flee too.

You really have the time to argue with individuals who lack understanding

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Men marry working class ladies who'll support you. Ask them what they are bringing to the table before proposing marriage. If you hear nothing or sex, run for your life it will not end well.

What will a man do with a frigid lady sexually then?

If she's married then she's chasing clout. You see them online say they can't take rubbish but take serious rubbish offline. Its the ladies that allowed themselves to be deceived by these online 'goddess'

Proserpina:
Obviously not.

She's married

She's right.

Dis women of this generation IQ no exist and the sense for their head no reach agama lizard own. The only sense of reasoning na that v wey God put between their legs.
No man will marry a liability!!!

[quote author=daneni1 post=129386382]

As a man, your sole responsibility is to take care of your woman and children. She can only support you and not be the bread winner of the home. Once a woman takes the role of a man in providing for the man and house, she loses her feminity and the man might becomes lazy such that whenever the woman ask for his help at home, he already believes she has money and should sort herself out.

Most times, such a man might even tell the kids to meet their mother when financial needs arises.

I know there are situation where a man looses his means of livelihood and the woman had to step in. During this period, the man shouldn't sit and become lazy, he need to put himself to work to sort things out on time, because some women might begin to talk to him anyhow. Let us all know that roles can be flexed but can't be changed.

We should also know that provision doesn't kill a man, it is the inability to provide that kills a man faster.

We should look around us, even in our neighbourhood where the woman is the bread winner of the house, its either the man becomes lazy and even chase women without regards to his wife or the wife and kids disrespect the him because he can't fulfil his basic responsibility at home.

So to that lady's opinion, I think I go with her.[/quote


Someone reasonable

Bro don't waste your time with women like this, i have met many of them.

Most are just bitter, and prostitutes who feel they are entitled to free money in exchange for sex.

Alot of women of this generation would be single for life, and blame it on bad men, it's only a foolish man that would fall for such manipulative pity.

cococandy:
Men tell you they hate feminists then they turn around and hate on those who want it keep it “traditional” like this. Confused lot

U know korra obidi?
Battling her life for survival now.
Acid poured on her by a masked white lady in uk with a knife.
What is going on?

.

tollyboy5:
This lady made this statement on a thread. I would love to know if that's how ladies think

The lady is absolutely right.


Biblically, women were not created to provide, they were created to keep a man company so boredom and loneliness won't kill you as a man. It is global economic hardship and unequal opportunities in the world today that has made men to expect women to become financial providers and even breadwinners, it is wrong.



Your wife should never share financial responsibility with you 50-50, it is your responsibility to provide for her while she takes care of you (emotionally, food wise, sexual wise, etc).



As a man pray to continually have enough to cater for your family.


Whether you live in the US, Europe, Canada, Australia, Asia, MiddleEast, Africa or Caribbean Islands, please don't share financial responsibilities with your wife 50-50 if you want an enjoyable marriage.

When she marry and see the reality of life she will change that ideology.
For now she is still acting on the impulse of juvenile delinquencies

pocohantas:
1. A wife's role is to support not to provide.
2. She expects her husband to be a major provider.
3. She can't be sexually available for a non-provider husband.


Anyone arguing this is being unrealistic.

If men wanted women to be providers, they won't expect providing women to hide it from the public. Neither would they call women richer than their men, the HUSBAND. Tell me about "na she marry man keep for house".

We all know the truth. But let's argue...

Quote me when you are knacking your wife without providing as an able-bodied man.

✌️✌️✌️✌️

You get mouth too much.

descarado:

U know korra obidi?
Battling her life for survival now.
Acid poured on her by a masked white lady in uk with a knife.
What is going on?

yes I have seen her on TikTok. WTF? I wonder who’s behind it 😟

Proserpina:
Where's the lie in her post?

As a man it is your responsibility to take care of your woman, if you can't you have no business with marriage.

Marriage is a partnership...both the man and the woman are to share the responsibilities. It's only a simp who will take the whole responsibility all alone....even this sex she thinks the man is getting for free takes a lot of the man's energy to satisfy her because women enjoy 75% of the sex and the man gives 75% of his energy for a 25% enjoyment.

So if you have been overworking yourself to take care of your wife while she does nothing you go die for nothing

tollyboy5:
This lady made this statement on a thread. I would love to know if that's how ladies think so I can also update Elon musk chip in my head with the latest IA

Useless women everywhere

And may God give you too a man that will be bombarding you with tatatata and money plus love and attention.

folake4u:


I like the fact you added this @ the bolded.

A big Amen to that.

descarado:


You get mouth too much.

Na my work, mama.

tollyboy5:
This lady made this statement on a thread. I would love to know if that's how ladies think so I can also update Elon musk chip in my head with the latest IA

I knew that our Feminist MODs will bring this to FP. Anywoman, who can't assist her husband financially is hopelessly useless.

descarado:

U know korra obidi?
Battling her life for survival now.
Acid poured on her by a masked white lady in uk with a knife.
What is going on?

Jeeeez. Korra? This happened?? ?

pocohantas:


Jeeeez. Korra? This happened?? ?

Darling, I have no clue.
A friend watching it live on Instagram called to tell me.
Paramedics got to her fast and sprayed something on her to reduce the effect of the acid.

My friend was crying on the phone. Check Instagram.

MrBrownJay1:


again...this is what i deducted from what she said:



she doesnt understand that a wife's role is to do whatever she needs, in order to help the family... (whether support OR provide)



any smart person knows that SEX IS NOT A REWARD FROM WOMEN TO MEN... they both enjoy sex and both provide sex for one another. the minute a woman uses sex like a reward for men, as if this is what he gets in return for providing for the family, thats when she has lost the plot. whether a man provides for the family or not, he is entitled to mounting his wife.



the above is as arrogant/ignorant as a man saying to his wife:"i paid bride price so the toto is mine.... whether you like it or not"



again, this woman regards sex in marriage as a reward for her husband doing whatever he needs to do to provide for his family (whether good or bad)... so technically, when all is good she has sex with husband, and if business is not great, no sex for him. what kind of narrow minded yeye nonsense is this?!

yes some yeye men have left their wives for less than that, but just because these ignoramus did so, doesnt mean we should today make such foul way of life a great thing for marriage.

I love how you broke down the dung that !diot spewed on the thread. I doubt she even understood what she wrote.

cococandy:
yes I have seen her on TikTok. WTF? I wonder who’s behind it 😟

I wonder too. But I was told it was a lady in mask.
We will know soon.

Proserpina:
Where's the lie in her post?

As a man it is your responsibility to take care of your woman, if you can't you have no business with marriage.

A wife is a helpmate to her husband not a liability thats what the bible says

Proserpina:
The bolded.... Like you have typed "helped" that is her role . You are playing around with words, we all know what "to provide" means in this context. Men are to provide, Women are to support.

Sex is scared to her, it is her own input and no matter how cheap or easy to get it may be out there it is something of value to her so if that's what she use to quantity her gain and loss she is justified. It is like telling a man not to see money as a huge factor he contributes to his marriage. Personally if I'm to make a post as hers it will be cooking, yeah because it's something I don't find easy to do but I do it out of love. So that's her compromise, her offer of love, she has the right to use it as a measure. Let's not downplay it because sex is bastardized out there, to her it isn't.

You are right, two wrongs do not make a right.

Ogbeni, get off the road jooor. Just spewing nonsense all over the internet. You are fundamentally faulty.

Moniya4Real:
And may God give you too a man that will be bombarding you with tatatata and money plus love and attention.

A bigger Amen.

descarado:

I wonder too. But I was told it was a lady in mask.
We will know soon.

Dang!

Proserpina:
Why are you pained?

As una no wan feed your wives anymore, make we self hold our support

pained fr wat...u dat is using almost 100 emojis to mask ur pain and frustration.. who cares...

if my wife thinks this way, I send her away and marry anoda wife...she can go and enjoy her money...nonsense

Chicentt:
See you. Yeye man

Your papa na yeye man

pocohantas:


Na my work, mama.

I love that a lot.
Actually, I will tell you the truth.
A lot of males here love and admire you. Some that are fighting you are simply those who fantasies to get a babe like you.
They rile you up cos they love the interactions whichever way it comes as long as they are interacting.
Just reminds me of a younger me and much older me at work having some black men under me.