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Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by triplechoice(m): 7:56pm On Apr 22 |
budaatum:Yes ,it will lack it 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by TenQ: 8:31pm On Apr 22 |
StillDtruth:Atheism is a spiritual disease: an infection that take deliverance from strong demons out of their lives. It starts with the kind of question to EVE and conclude with "God does not Exist" |
Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by TenQ: 8:37pm On Apr 22 |
budaatum:I am glad that we are coming to a consensus on this. budaatum:I agree that words are imprecise at best. This is probably why it is better to adopt the scientific wordview because they are more precise than the simple dictionary terms. Scientific terms will usually take into consideration for definition things that are beyond the view of natural senses to comprehend. |
Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by LordReed(m): 8:37pm On Apr 22 |
TenQ: Did you go to school? Show me proof you went to school. Don't show me a certificate o, show me you went to school. That's how nutso you sound. Completely nutso. Whatever cave you are living in leave there and go meet people before you run stark raving mad. |
Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by TenQ: 8:50pm On Apr 22 |
budaatum:But the n, you should understand that data in a storage device is meaningless if it is not in the expected format. When a CD or HDD is written with 10 GB of Data, the truth of the matter is that NOTHING of a physical nature increases on the HDD. Similarly, when a 30 TB HDD is wiped clean of Data, nothing DECREASES on the HDD. budaatum:I think you are seeing software as the High Level Language written on the VDU: but this is not true. The Software is the FINAL Formatted Sequence of Binary or Hexadecimal Code that is written in the CPU or HDD. budaatum:I think my question was very specific and demands that the answers be with respect to the point of view of the Machine Check My Questions again: everything was with respect to what happens WITHIN the Computer 3. Can the software within a machine be "measured" or "quantified" by any physical means? 4. Is it wisdom to insist on a physical quantification of a software within a machine to conclude that it exist? 5. Tell me, how can one prove the existence of a software WITHIN an AI machine's CPU or MEMORY without the use of another software? So you can understand when I insisted on what happens from the point of view of the Computer and not the programmer |
Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by budaatum: 8:56pm On Apr 22 |
triplechoice: And will it be tangible and have tangibility if I love my neighbour, and not insult those who insult me, and don't kill and don't covet control over my neighbours mind nor rob them of their point of view, my God, in Spirit and essence and everything anyone can choose to describe it, is tangible, or at least must be tangible to me because I am making my God real and tangible to my very self? P.s. I intentionally made it gibberish, do note. Imagine being told my infinitely massed God is not tangible because it does not have dimensions despite having the energy to create the entire universe, and it does change state with time, or at least understanding of it must. Can you see me joke of talking to an ant?
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Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by TenQ: 8:57pm On Apr 22 |
triplechoice:So , who are you for everything about you reeks of Atheism! Of course there are many flavours of Atheism: for me , if you act as an Atheist, you must be an atheist. If you can bother with going through my old threads, you will see me describe what a spirit is. Unfortunately, these are things atheists will scorn at thoughtlessly. It is not worth it. My strategy of explaining any spiritual things to an atheist is to first find a similar physical things that they can understand and then use it as a pivot to explain the spiritual. If they cannot comprehend the physical, there is no point explaining the spiritual. Tell me:' Do you think that a person who holds a position that ANYTHING that is not Tangible is FICTICIOUS will understand what a spirit is? |
Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by TenQ: 8:58pm On Apr 22 |
triplechoice:It is the truth: this is why MOST atheists do not have adverse position to Gender fluidity |
Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by TenQ: 9:05pm On Apr 22 |
LordReed:With Atheistic voice I ask: Show me mathematics? I want to touch it! How much does it weigh? |
Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by StillDtruth: 9:18pm On Apr 22 |
triplechoice: Nope! No evil. That passage Said exactly what i told you, which is as "you judge and convict others eg me, your girlfriend, wife, houseboy, is the same way that judges and convicts you. So, no evil. |
Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by StillDtruth: 9:23pm On Apr 22 |
TenQ: I dont think so. Atheism is just the final point when a man real eyeses that God has cut him off and rejected him and is never gonna have anything to with him again. So they are just publicly rejecting and making noise about it in their lamentations and pains. |
Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by budaatum: 9:24pm On Apr 22 |
TenQ:With this, you frustrate me. We agreed, software for pc will not work in Android and Mac! We agreed, Sign language is gibberish to computer! And now you start your response with, "you should understand" as if I don't! Please, TenQ, try to see the point of view of others instead of your own alone. TenQ:Ergo, software lacks mass. TenQ:That is what the software is to you, and from your point of view. A person who sat down and coded every single line of the software might choose to look from a different point of view. TenQ: What you do not seem to understand is that you do not have the authority to demand what point of view I choose to respect, and that just really amuses me. Why would I be an atheist, precisely defined as a person who refuses to only accept the point of view of the gods, now choose to worship the point of view of TenQ, to put it bluntly it I may? Tell me. Is the person coding the software not writing the software, and is their final written code not the software too or must they too only see the machine's point of view? |
Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by TenQ: 9:29pm On Apr 22 |
budaatum:I asked questions that were specific: Answers should fall in line with my Question ! This is a simple issue. After answering my Question, you may pose your own Question and we will answer it according to how you have formatted it. |
Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by TenQ: 9:32pm On Apr 22 |
StillDtruth:It is spiritual because Logic never makes sense to them. Can Matter come out of Nothing? Can Order come out of Randomness? To the Atheists, YES! |
Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by budaatum: 9:56pm On Apr 22 |
TenQ: But who are you? Our teacher? Our examiner? Are we to receive marks from you if we give you the specific answer that fall in your line? And what if we have a better answer, a more nuanced and considered answer, must we abandon it and dumb down? TenQ: Go back through the thread TenQ, and you will see many instances where we posed our own question how we formatted it but you refused to see it not to talk of answer any one of them, so it cannot obviously be as simple as you say it is now, can it? |
Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by budaatum: 10:03pm On Apr 22 |
TenQ:Yes! See the nothing In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. TenQ:Yes. See the beginning of the ordering of the randomness below. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. TenQ:Like buda. Yes! |
Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by budaatum: 10:09pm On Apr 22 |
StillDtruth: Stop lying that you think! Everyone should know that God does not "cut him off and rejected him and is never gonna have anything to with him again" to anybody.
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Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by TenQ: 10:10pm On Apr 22 |
budaatum:Thanks for showing that the Primary mover of these impossibilities is a Primary mover (God) Unfortunately, To the Atheists: these things spontaneously happens without a Primary Mover (God) Atoms can spontaneously form themselves Entropy can be reversed without external Energy Life can just come out from atoms and molecules |
Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by TenQ: 10:13pm On Apr 22 |
budaatum:TenQ set his question! If you don't know the answer, don't ascribe the answers to the question I gvae you with your answers to your own question. |
Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by budaatum: 10:36pm On Apr 22 |
TenQ: We are telling you that the answer you ascribe to your own question is from only your one point of view, and that there are other points of view, and that you can't just close your eyes and claim only your point of view is the only point of view, and that telling us to only consider a thing from your point of view is like asking us to look with your own eyes which might not even work as good as ones own eyes. Or do you live on a planet where the blind see for those with eyes?
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Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by budaatum: 10:55pm On Apr 22 |
TenQ: I've felt all along that this is the rub, and I am finally glad you confess. Eve asked, will I die if I eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil that Adam had told her they should not eat for on the day that she ate she would surely die, by opening her eyes to see that it was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, so she took some and ate it and gave some to her dumb believing husband, who was with her, and he ate it. Yes, TenQ. The logical consequence of using one's heart and soul and mind to ask and knock and seek is to question the gods, the sources of all Wisdom, from all points of views imaginable.
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Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by TenQ: 11:02pm On Apr 22 |
budaatum:I wish death was just physical: but You will NOT die became a LIE. Adam and Eve not only died Spiritually, they also eventually died Physically! A classic case of 419 that wiped out everything given to Adam and Eve! |
Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by TenQ: 11:05pm On Apr 22 |
budaatum:What is difficult with answering my questions? Can you not ask your own question too? Why must you answer a question I never asked you and attribute it to be the answer to my Questions : doesn't this make sense to you? |
Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by budaatum: 11:16pm On Apr 22 |
TenQ:I did answer your questions, TenQ. And making out I didn't is not what anyone who reads the very tangible evidence that is available in this thread would conclude. You just did not like my answers because they were from numerous points of view, be honest! TenQ:Are you suggesting that I don't understand the questions you asked me and that I answered extensively? Or is it that you don't understand my answers. |
Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by TenQ: 11:42pm On Apr 22 |
budaatum:You answered your own questions not my questions anmd worse of all, you were attributing your answers to my questions. Most of the answers to my question is YES or NO; I doubt if there was once where you clearly stated such answers. I think my question was very specific and demands that the answers be with respect to the point of view of the Machine Check My Questions again: everything was with respect to what happens WITHIN the Computer 1. Is a software within a machine REAL or not? 2. Can the software within a machine be "measured" or "quantified" by any physical means? 3. Can the software within a machine be "measured" or "quantified" by any physical means? 4. Is it wisdom to insist on a physical quantification of a software within a machine to conclude that it exist? 5. Tell me, how can one prove the existence of a software WITHIN an AI machine's CPU or MEMORY without the use of another software? Except for Question 5, all the questions has answers that were YES or NO ! |
Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by budaatum: 12:05am On Apr 23 |
TenQ: This is narrowness TenQ, born of one point of view. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-ended_question
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Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by budaatum: 12:11am On Apr 23 |
This, in fact, better describes some of your questions! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leading_question
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Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by jaephoenix(m): 12:18am On Apr 23 |
TenQ:The definition of atheism has never changed. Its either u didn't know it before or u r just plain ignorant. |
Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by jaephoenix(m): 12:19am On Apr 23 |
TenQ:It is tangible because we can see its effects on cells. We can appraise it by its effects on cells. We don't really need to touch life. So its tangible |
Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by TenQ: 6:32am On Apr 23 |
budaatum: Were you born in March? is different from Which month of the year were you born? My questions require just plain YES orNO! 1 Like |
Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by TenQ: 6:34am On Apr 23 |
budaatum:My Questions were obviously not even leading Questions! |
Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by TenQ: 6:34am On Apr 23 |
jaephoenix:Do your concur that you Lack a belief in a Diety? |
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