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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Olu317(m): 2:07pm On Apr 28 |
AutomaticMotors:Such a false from the servants of Oba Bini😆😋 Fact is fact. Hence, I see all of you edos of Bini language speakers who deny the ancestry of Oba as comedians Below is another evidence that Izoduwa is a fraud as well as concocted falsification of Oba Binis claiming Odudua. Odudua is of Yoruba origin from Ileife and not bini, according to Biini Dictionary 😃😃😄 Masquerade of ɔɣɛnɛ (Ooni of ileife) Oghene 4 Likes
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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Raf4: 2:07pm On Apr 28 |
aswani: Have you ever heard about a town called Ughoton before? Go and read about the history of Ughoton and you will see the true picture of Ekaladerhan the missing Prince. 2 Likes |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Danand1: 2:07pm On Apr 28 |
Konquest:Are you saying oke ora is an ancient kingdom as old as Ife and Benin kingdoms? I guess oke ora came from Ife and if we are to go by the kingdom at the east of Ife, then that should be pointing at Benin kingdom 2 Likes |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by HBB1(m): 2:13pm On Apr 28 |
Shattuck: Guess your history is poor. There was true monarchy at a time. For example, in the Oyo empire, Kings were succeded by their firstborn sons. This was later changed to prevent the heirs murdering their fathers for a quick ascension. As such the firstborn died with the king. Also a senate was firmed to prevent the king from having excessive power and he could be impeached. Also after a while, since many families in the royal lineage had tasted power over time-- through normal ascension, fratricide, or regicide, a plan to rotate power started. Saying there was no true monarchy is hogwash. |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Olu317(m): 2:13pm On Apr 28 |
Raf4:Gwatto was founded by Ekaleradan , the only son of Ogiso Owodo 😃😃😃 in 11th century and not odudua who had died thousands of years beforeOranmiyan's 1170s invasion of Igodomigodo As at the time of Oranmiyan coming to Igodomigodo cum Edo, Obá Olùfọn (Ọbálùfọn) was on the throne as Olúfẹ̀😉 Some Edos are bunch of liars 4 Likes |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Shattuck(m): 2:15pm On Apr 28 |
santaclaws:mind you in ancient times there was nothing like youruba land it is either ife or oyo or Ogbomosho, and the Benin kingdom was larger in size and might to the ife kingdom and was more organized as it was a true monarchy how then did an ife kingdom which was smaller in size and number and which doesn't even practice a true monarchy come to found and create a monarchy in Benin kingdom, your lies and your misconception is to equate this to Benin vs the entire Yoruba race, which is false it is Benin vs ile ife and the Benin kingdom was larger than ife and more organized maybe ife got to influence other kingdoms which made up the entire Yoruba race today. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by neyobills: 2:16pm On Apr 28 |
Shattuck: There is no Oba of Lagos...its the Eleko of Eko...what is the meaning on Lagos in Benin Language? |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by chopnaira: 2:21pm On Apr 28 |
AutomaticMotors:He is lying. There is no record of any exiled price in any history book. Even the Ogiamen (the real Bini people) said an exiled prince dies not exist in their history. If he sure for you, post any historical book that talks of the exiled prince called Oduduwa or erakadehran.... 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Shattuck(m): 2:24pm On Apr 28 |
HBB1:I believe the history of a bini prince who became ruler of ife, and returned you guys always assume the benin story as Benin vs Yoruba race, no it was Benin vs ife and ife was a smaller kingdom in size and number compared to the Benin kingdom. Guess you agree with my other points. 1 Like |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by chopnaira: 2:25pm On Apr 28 |
Goodlady:Gbam. |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by chopnaira: 2:25pm On Apr 28 |
Shattuck:That history doesn't exist. A story that started spreading a few years ago is not history. Ife was bigger than Benin in the 12the century. Benin did not started increasing in size until the 15th century. And Oyo even became bigger than Bini. Even ife sent the Benin the people that taught them the artwork that was already existing in ife 1 Like
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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by 43Ronin: 2:26pm On Apr 28 |
It's highly Dubious & hypocritical of yoruba to lay claim to beni because their king answers Oba but turn around to accuse ndigbo of laying claim to ikwerre even thought their kings bear Igwe & Eze, and their towns carry igbo names. Yoruba stay in your lane- always looking to reap from where you did not sow 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by chopnaira: 2:27pm On Apr 28 |
43Ronin:Nobody is laying claim to Benin. A minority Edoid tribe. What they claimed and as confirmed by their Oba is the royal stool of Benin which is confirmed by the Oba himself. Or is Oranmiyan an Ibo or Hausa man? 3 Likes |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by santaclaws: 2:28pm On Apr 28 |
Shattuck: Yea, there was nothing like "Yoruba land" but we all knew ourselves as "Omo Oduduwa" and we all spoke the same language. The major kingdom in Yoruba land was the Oyo kingdom and Ile Ife was more of our ancestral home. I know my history, but you seem not to know yours well, partly because it's been laced with false narratives by your ancestral rulers. All the same, you're free to believe what you want. Adios ✌🏾 3 Likes |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by aswani(m): 2:31pm On Apr 28 |
Raf4: Of course I have heard of it, what exactly are you disputing from what I wrote? |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by chopnaira: 2:35pm On Apr 28 |
Danand1: Shattuck: HBB1: Ife had oba titles. Oba-lufon and Oba-tala predates Oduduwa. |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by aswani(m): 2:36pm On Apr 28 |
santaclaws: Who exactly are you that only the Royal family can challenge your (false) assertions in Nairaland. Your only proof that Bini, Ilaje and Itsekiri came from Yoruba is that everyone with a working brain knows. You that you have a working brain, I am so surprised you can't see how nonsensical your argument sounds. Anyway nutin spoil. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by HBB1(m): 2:39pm On Apr 28 |
Shattuck: Agree with what points? You are not making sense. You believe something that cannot be proven. You know what is proven. About the Ife Kingdom, you need to read about it. It was actually a empire and was notable in the 1200s AD. Thinking small Ile-Ife was the whole of the Ife empire is laughable! In all, this your analogy does not make sense. So because Oyo empire was way larger than Ife, means Ife could not have birthed it? Come on man! Read, think, think! 2 Likes |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Konquest: 2:40pm On Apr 28 |
Danand1:Oke Ora is located within Osun State not far from Ife (Ufe), that is 8 kilometres (5 miles) EAST of Ife (Ufe) and there were other settlements in what is now Yorubaland before Oduduwa was even born and he originally came from Oke Ora. There were people in Ife before the rise of the Oduduwa Dynasty in Ife and Ife had 2 other dynasties before the Oduduwa dynasty. The presence of Obatala as a traditional ruler in what is now Ife is just one of the evidence that shows that the Obaship or kingship system existed long before Oduduwa came from Oke Ora, and he continued the Obaship tradition. =>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oke_Ora I must add that the descent of Oduduwa from his place of origin in Oke Ora in Osun State is mythologized as the descent from the sky. Everyone in Ife and outside Ife knows it's NOT to be interpreted as a literal descent from the sky but it's just a religious deification or allegory of the arrival of Oduduwa from Oke Ora to Ife and this is why every new Oba (Ooni of Ife) has to go to Oke Ora as part of the traditional rites of coronation. =>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oke_Ora Heck, even the Ogiso (now Ogiamien) family CLEARLY stated in this 2018 Guardian article below that Oduduwa was NOT from Igodomigo as being claimed of recent by the Benin Royal Palace but was of pure Yoruba descent from Ife alongside Oranmiyan who had a child called Owomika (Eweka) by a woman from Egor. =>https://guardian.ng/features/ogiso-and-ogiamien-are-aborigine-binis-while-oba-of-benin-is-of-yoruba-descent-high-chief-esotericist-monday-wehere/ 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by santaclaws: 2:43pm On Apr 28 |
aswani: The history of the Ilaje and Itsekiri is well documented, nobody can dispute the fact that they're from Yoruba land. Bini Kingdom itself is a proof cos your king's traditional title means Prince in Yoruba land, giving credence to the fact that a Yoruba Prince from Ife founded Bini kingdom. Omo n'oba = Omo Oba (Prince). Our prince is your own king. There's levels to this bro 😎 5 Likes |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by HBB1(m): 2:44pm On Apr 28 |
43Ronin: Who cares what Ikwerres call themselves. You think any Yoruba man gives a hoot?! Don't make yourself feel too special. Your problem is with the Ikwerres or whomever. Besides no Yoruba man is claiming Benin. Same way no German is claiming Britain. We all came from somewhere. Because the first man was from Africa, should we then claim the whole world? We are only discussing origin here. Lots of years have passed, so people can choose to be whomever they want to be. |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Danand1: 2:55pm On Apr 28 |
[quote author=HBB1 post=129676937] 🤣 It is true. ...and it does not sound sensible for the heads from the source to be buried in the kindgom of the progeny/offspring. You only want to return your body to where you are from. Abi no be so?[/quote Where in Ife are they buried? |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by aswani(m): 3:05pm On Apr 28 |
santaclaws: This is draining, unfortunately I need to save my energy for Obidients who are a more pressing danger. Hopefully someone else will respond to you and clarify stuff. |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Raf4: 3:06pm On Apr 28 |
aswani: That Ekaladerhan was never Oduduwa. Ekaladerhan lived, died and was buried in Ughoton village. 1 Like |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Danand1: 3:07pm On Apr 28 |
santaclaws:😀,do you even know your's? Is Oduduwa a Yoruba man to even start with? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by aswani(m): 3:10pm On Apr 28 |
Raf4: Where exactly did I say Ekaladerhan was Odùduwà in my post that you responded to? I didn't even mention his name. Honestly dis Nairaland, what is happening to people today? Someone else is accusing me of responding rudely to them in another thread, a thread where I didn't respond to them. |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by HBB1(m): 3:15pm On Apr 28 |
[quote author=Danand1 post=129678914][/quote] https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrkFPIyWS5mPsIeenhB4iA5;_ylu=Y29sbwNpcjIEcG9zAzEEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3Ny/RV=2/RE=1714342322/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fguardian.ng%2fsunday-magazine%2foba-of-benin-visits-ooni-of-ife%2f/RK=2/RS=U5_Ymvnoxjd5.L206qvFavnfphA-
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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Danand1: 3:16pm On Apr 28 |
[quote author=Danand1 post=129678914][/quote] The thing is that, before there is any recorded event that brought about the relationship between Benin and Ife, the two kingdoms were in existence Heads of Benin kings were never and will never be buried in ife 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Danand1: 3:24pm On Apr 28 |
Infact check the whole oba in Yoruba land, ooni dresses differently from other Yoruba kings, which could literally means there is kinda influence from outside culture, and the closest is Benin. If the not other kings in Yoruba land should have been dressing as the ooni 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by AutomaticMotors: 3:29pm On Apr 28 |
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Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by AutomaticMotors: 3:31pm On Apr 28 |
Danand1: Bro you dey mind all this mumu ppl that are too blind to see even their Ooni is copying BENIN KINGDOM aesthetics! |
Re: Benin Traditional Council Suspends Five Chiefs For Pledging Alliance To Ooni by Raf4: 3:32pm On Apr 28 |
Shattuck: Your Prince who fled Bini ended up in Ughoton town where he lived, died and was buried. Oba of Bini even used this storyline to win a land case against Ijaws in the court of law in the past. Go and read about the history of Ughoton Town and discover your lost Ekaladerhan. 1 Like |
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