Danand1:


Try and visit your kings palace to get the true story of how Oduduwa came to Ife, all this that you are saying are just mere formulations

You lost Ekaladerhan lived, died and was buried in Ughoton village. That was the reason you won a land case against the Ijaws in the court of law.

Both Ogiso dynasty of Igodomigodo and Oba dynasty of Bini were started by Ile-Ife people under the leadership of Obagodo and Oranmiyan respectively

HBB1:



You are not very smart.

If power was not stable, how did they build an empire?

Lajuwa was a head messenger and seized power after the king died-- big deal?
Is that alien to history?

Was power not siezed in England?
Or France?
Or Rome?
Didn't the Janissaries (a corp of ex-slaves) seize power in the Ottoman empire?

Really?!
🤣
See argument!

Again don't defelect the question.
Ba- means hover over.
Oba means the one who rules over or hovers over.

Opa-- means staff
Olopa-- means the one who wields the staff

Okada-- means bike ( who knows where the word was borrowed from)
Olokada-- means bike man.

Since you claim Oba is a Benin word and means ruler.
Show me from Benin Language, similarities to this.

Besides looking at the genealogy of Ife Kings, there were Obas before the first Ooni.
Obatala being one.

Please try to make sense.

obatala was a name of a person not a title it wasnt just lajuwa who seized power the entire ife leadership throne has never been from one genealogy, neither was it organized if you never had an organized leadership how then is it possible than you ancestors found the Benin monarchy when the Benin kingdom already had an lineage of ascension to the throne that ile ife didn't have? If there is anything history teaches us is that a Benin prince at one time ruled ife, which makes sense before ife didn't have a line of succession anyone could have been ooni, even till this day the household of the ooni is been debated and does not even follow a line of succession.

Shattuck:
obatala was a name of a person not a title it wasnt just lajuwa who seized power the entire ife leadership throne has never been from one genealogy, neither was it organized if you never had an organized leadership how then is it possible than you ancestors found the Benin monarchy when the Benin kingdom already had an lineage of ascension to the throne that ile ife didn't have? If there is anything history teaches us is that a Benin prince at one time ruled ife, which makes sense before ife didn't have a line of succession anyone could have been ooni, even till this day the household of the ooni is been debated and does not even follow a line of succession.

Ode. Obatala was a king and an Orisha. Sink that into your brain first. Instead of constantly writing gibberish.

FxMasterz:


I am an Oyo Prince. If you don't understand what I wrote, shut up and get out of my mentions.

Will you shut up with your constant gibberish?

I would leave you with this picture. Ooni is the central father figure!

PressMyButton:
Four things are very clear;
1. That those individuals that visited Ooni's palace are indeed traditional functionaries of the Benin kingdom.
2. That the suspension signifies the fact that they are indeed serving royal chiefs of the Benin kingdom.
3. That the Benin kingdom are hiding some truths from the people of Benin.
4. That the suspension would not deter more people close to the palace to come out with more truths as the people truly know their own history.

U know nothing.

Shattuck:
the story of the oba, is a bini prince who fled to ife and returned to bini, not that the bini kingdom or king is a Yoruba man. Stop distorting history.

What is the name of that bini Prince that fled to youroba land? I can tell you for free no Prince fled to no where it's Oranmiyan and his brother that came to bini to fight war in bini and with the help of some bini they fought for many years before a treaty was signed oromiyan beg our king ogiemen to give him a land for him to stay with his people as a lease and a payment is paid every time they crown a new king to the ogiemen family ogiemen is rulling one part and the oba one side it was well demacated it was civilization that make us not to see the difference any more. go and read the short history of benin by A Short History of Benin
Author Jacob Egharevba
You will understand what I am saying

succri:
You will never find out the truth , all history books have been altered , something that's been going on for hundreds of years ,

The truth is right there at "Orun Oba Ado"

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DOptical:
Oba of bini has no right to even suspend them because everyone has a right to talk about his history to begin with. Abi na craze dey worry am? Like, who does that? Na craze dey worry am? He's actually scared because these chiefs are now talking about their Yoruba history when he thought he was the only one who's a Yoruba thus was constantly saying gibberish while expecting the Yoruba to constantly overlook his stupidity since he's a Yoruba. Lol. That was how he wanted to be saying gibberish about the Itsekiri/Jekri. Anyway, he now knows that he's not the only one who's a Yoruba descendant. The ogiso of igodomido (a Yoruba name) were also Yoruba descendants and can even take back their throne from him. Do anyhow and see any how!

who is this one again.

Yoruba isn't even just a tribe but an ethnic race spanning! One idiot want to limit Yoruba to just Bini.

Oyo ori Oba (Yo'oba) is the name! Go figure. Someone even said Yoruba is the program code of the world, well, Obatala and Oduduwa which are halves of a sphere which formed the universe according to Ifa.

DOptical:


Will you shut up with your constant gibberish?

I would leave you with this picture. Ooni is the central father figure!

Arrogant ignoramus! Who says Oni is not? He sits on the highest stool in Yoruba land abjugated to him by the king as I earlier stated. Go and ask why the Alaafin does not bow to the Ooni.

FxMasterz:


Arrogant ignoramus! Who says Oni is not? He sits on the highest stool in Yoruba land abjugated to him by the king as I earlier stated. Go and ask why the Alaafin does not bow to the Ooni.

will you keep quiet with your constant gibberish? Ode.

The picture below should give you a brain. And yes, Ooni is the central head!

DOptical:


will you keep quiet with your constant gibberish? Ode.

The picture below should give you a brain. And yes, Ooni is the central head!

You're daft.

Why is it that the Alaafin does not bow to the Ooni? If only you have sense, that question would enlighten you. You can't know better than me.

FxMasterz:


You're daft.

Why is it that the Alaafin does not bow to the Ooni? If only you have sense, that question would enlighten you. You can't know better than me.

Who told you he doesn't know his home? Ode. His crown is from Ife as a matter of fact.

Can't you see the picture where Ooni is at the central or you dey craze?

DOptical:


Who told you he doesn't know his home? Ode. His crown is from Ife as a matter of fact.

Can't you see the picture where Ooni is at the central or you dey craze?

You're really stupid.

Who says the Ooni is not the traditional ruler of Yoruba land?

Dullard!

FxMasterz:


Arrogant ignoramus! Who says Oni is not? He sits on the highest stool in Yoruba land abjugated to him by the king as I earlier stated. Go and ask why the Alaafin does not bow to the Ooni.

Lol. Alaafin is disrespectful like oba bini in a way butn in a different way.

Alaafin is a maternal descent of Oranmiyan historically. And from 1839, that the title Alaafin was created after Oluewu/ Olukuewu was betrayed by warriors and Atiba who connived with Olu Ilorin /Emir Ilorin and killed /beheaded him at Ilorin.

Olufe Ooni Lajamisan was a direct biological son of Oranmiyan andcontinue even which Olufe Ooni Ojaja Ogunwusi is a direct male descent .

Olu317:
Lol. Alaafin is disrespectful like oba bini in a way butn in a different way.

Alaafin is a maternal descent of Oranmiyan historically. And from 1839, that the title Alaafin was created after Oluewu/ Olukuewu was betrayed by warriors and Atiba who connived with Olu Ilorin /Emir Ilorin and killed /beheaded him at Ilorin.

Olufe Ooni Lajamisan was a direct biological son of Oranmiyan andcontinue even which Olufe Ooni Ojaja Ogunwusi is a direct male descent .

Alaafin is not disrespectful. The Ooni knows. Traditionally, the Alaafin does not bow to the Ooni because the ife stool was first occupied by a king who left ìfẹ for a war expedition that later led to him founding Oyo ilé.

The Ooni was a chief priest of ife who was authorized to administer the throne in the absence of the Oba. Since the Oba never returned, the chief priest eventually became the oba while the self exiled oba became Alaafin in Oyo. The Alaafin therefore can't bow to the Ooni but must respect the stool the Ooni sits on as the original seat of his forefathers.

If the Alaafin was a son of the Ooni, he would definitely bow. He can't disrespect his father.

FxMasterz:


You're really stupid.

Who says the Ooni is not the traditional ruler of Yoruba land?

Dullard!

See wailing at the face of facts. Ode.

Ooni is the central head! That's a fact. Facts remain unchanged

DOptical:


See wailing at the face of facts. Ode.

Ooni is the central head! That's a fact. Facts remain unchanged

Dullard. Who says he's not?

DOptical:



Ode. Obatala was a king and an Orisha. Sink that into your brain first. Instead of constantly writing gibberish.

If obatala was a king before Oduduwa, which crown was he wearing and why is the crown brought by Oduduwa became the major crown of the ooni of Ife?

Danand1:

If obatala was a king before Oduduwa, which crown was he wearing and why is the crown brought by Oduduwa became the major crown of the ooni of Ife?

Ode, Oduduwa didn't bring any crown. He was from Oke Ora. He was picked by Ifa to become the king after several centuries years of Obatala descendants thus depicting the Orisha Obatala and Oduduwa which are the two halves which formed the universe.

chopnaira:


Their problem. Would the council of Benin chiefs also suspend Oba of Benin too for saying he is the son of Oranmiyan and Grandson of Oduduwa in his coronation video below? He also said Oranmiyan established Obaship in Benin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-q_F2zch8M?si=e6yfz-uGrRaJbPZE

Thanks for your succinct information.

FxMasterz:


Alaafin is not disrespectful. The Ooni knows. Traditionally, the Alaafin does not bow to the Ooni because the ife stool was first occupied by a king who left ìfẹ for a war expedition that later led to him founding Oyo ilé.

The Ooni was a chief priest of ife who was authorized to administer the throne in the absence of the Oba. Since the Oba never returned, the chief priest eventually became the oba while the self exiled oba became Alaafin in Oyo. The Alaafin therefore can't bow to the Ooni but must respect the stool the Ooni sits on as the original seat of his forefathers.

If the Alaafin was a son of the Ooni, he would definitely bow. He can't disrespect his father.

Distortion my dear.

1.Lajamisan is a bologicals son of Oranmiyan and a maternal descendant of Obalufon

2. Alaafins of 1839 have facial marks and no facial marks can enter Oranmiyan 's shrine

3. Tell me,who was the biological father of Atiba ? Tell me

DOptical:


Ode, Oduduwa didn't bring any crown. He was from Oke Ora. He was picked by Ifa to become the king after several centuries years of Obatala descendants thus depicting the Orisha Obatala and Oduduwa which are the two halves which formed the universe.

See this ode, are you saying oke ora has been in existence before Oduduwa came to Ife?, when history stated that it is the grand sons of Oduduwa that founded other Yoruba empire?
Or maybe oke ora wasn't a Yoruba land at that time😀😀

Pls someone should even check the pictures of the said Oduduwa, how can that be a Yoruba man we his attires

Danand1:

See this ode, are you saying oke ora has been in existence before Oduduwa came to Ife?, when history stated that it is the grand sons of Oduduwa that founded other Yoruba empire?
Or maybe oke ora wasn't a Yoruba land at that time😀😀

Ode, your brain could see that Obatala and his descendants were ruling Ife, yet your stupid self was asking if Oke ora was existing? You dey mad?

Oke Ora was existing alongside Ife. It's even in Ife sef. It was the fact that No one expected anyone else except Obatala descendants ruling Ife until Ifa also picked another Yoruba man named Oduduwa from Oke Ora to become the king thereby depicting the Orisha Obatala and Orisha Oduduwa as two halves of a sphere which formed the universe.

Pls someone should even check the pictures of the said Oduduwa, how can that be a Yoruba man with his regalia

DOptical:


Ode, your brain could see that Obatala and his descendants were ruling Ife, yet your stupid self was asking if Oke ora was existing? You dey mad?

Oke Ora was existing alongside Ife. It's even in Ife sef. It was the fact that No one expected anyone else except Obatala descendants ruling Ife until Ifa also picked another Yoruba man named Oduduwa from Oke Ora to become the king thereby depicting the Orisha Obatala and Orisha Oduduwa of the sphere which formed the universe.

You are saying rubbish, but no probs
So how does Oduduwa now becomes the father of Yoruba and not Obatala or his descendants

Leo34rf:


Oduduwa claimed he came from the the sky gods (The Benin kings aka the Ogisos aka the sky gods). Your people were confused and thought he said he came from the sky. That's why till this day you guys say Oduduwa descended from heaven, the sky. The sky gods were the Ogiso's, the Benin kings.

So, you are still listening to that story? Odùduwà was a normal human and so couldn't have descended from any heaven. He was a prince of Ufẹ̀ (Ifẹ̀) who later became king of Ifẹ̀. Before him, many kings who were not from the line of Ọ̀ra Ifẹ̀ family where Odùduwà came from had reigned in Ifẹ̀ and used different titles like Ọwá, Olúfẹ̀, etc. Also, the current Ifẹ̀ is about the third phase of Ifẹ̀. If you care to know, not all original Yorùbá obas were descendants of Odùduwà because the latter was not the first king of Ifẹ̀ as earlier noted but all Yorùbá people trace their origin to Ifẹ̀. Though his dispensation seems the last, Odùduwà became somewhat more popular and some people began to weave strange tales around him.

All said and done, the Benin Ọba, as their current king has rightly stated, descended from Òrànmíyàn who was a descendant of Odùduwà. Furthermore, linguistic affinity the Binis share with the Yorùbá people, to the extent that some of them answer Yorùbá names, should be one of the reasons which should help them to shove ethnic chauvinism aside and honestly research and report their history.

Raf4:


You lost Ekaladerhan lived, died and was buried in Ughoton village. That was the reason you won a land case against the Ijaws in the court of law.

Both Ogiso dynasty of Igodomigodo and Oba dynasty of Bini were started by Ile-Ife people under the leadership of Obagodo and Oranmiyan respectively

You dey use sledge hammer hammer this matter.

seunayantokun:

So, you are still listening to that story? Odùduwà was a normal human and so couldn't have descended from any heaven. He was a prince of Ufẹ̀ (Ifẹ̀) who later became king of Ifẹ̀. Before him, many kings who were not from the line of Ọ̀ra Ifẹ̀ family where Odùduwà came from had reigned in Ifẹ̀ and used different titles like Ọwá, Olúfẹ̀, etc. Also, the current Ifẹ̀ is about the third phase of Ifẹ̀. If you care to know, not all original Yorùbá obas were descendants of Odùduwà because the latter was not the first king of Ifẹ̀ as earlier noted but all Yorùbá people trace their origin to Ifẹ̀. Though his dispensation seems the last, Odùduwà became somewhat more popular and some people began to weave strange tales around him.

All said and done, the Benin Ọba, as their current king has rightly stated, descended from Òrànmíyàn who was a descendant of Odùduwà. Furthermore, linguistic affinity the Binis share with the Yorùbá people, to the extent that some of them answer Yorùbá names, should be one of the reasons which should help them to shove ethnic chauvinism aside and honestly research and report their history.

I guess you should visit ooni's palace and get the proper history, even in ife there is still a park name Oduduwa afewonro park right in front of the palace, with the statue of Oduduwa