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Re: Ile-ife Is Our Home, Benin Reps Tell Ooni (Video) by YouAreNobody: 8:56pm On Apr 28 |
Benwallt: Go and ask the Ooni of Ife |
Re: Ile-ife Is Our Home, Benin Reps Tell Ooni (Video) by YouAreNobody: 8:58pm On Apr 28 |
chopnaira: but you should be ashamed o, you can't go a day without talking about this minority tribe of 5percenters in a dot in a circle. Just think about it, every waking minute you're tormented by thoughts of these people and while you sleep you always dream about them. What does that tell you? It means you're a stark raving lunatic, it's just a matter of time and you'll get your room in Yaba Left 1 Like |
Re: Ile-ife Is Our Home, Benin Reps Tell Ooni (Video) by Tflex01: 9:14pm On Apr 28 |
YouAreNobody: Benin kingdom precedes Igbo, Fact! Yoruba kingdom precedes Benin, Fact! Binis know Yorubas are their boss forget the small online grandstanding. When Binis and Yorubas already have kingdoms and empires, Igbos were still jumping from one tree to the other, naked. The day you mis.creants mess up with Binis they will tell you your real history. 2 Likes |
Re: Ile-ife Is Our Home, Benin Reps Tell Ooni (Video) by IkpuMmadu: 9:21pm On Apr 28 |
Tflex01:igbo Ukwu art work is 500yts older than Benin id yesterday thay was influence by igbo |
Re: Ile-ife Is Our Home, Benin Reps Tell Ooni (Video) by AutomaticMotors: 10:09am On Apr 29 |
YouAreNobody: 🤣🤣🤣 Aah this wotowoto enter oo |
Re: Ile-ife Is Our Home, Benin Reps Tell Ooni (Video) by Iykenuwa(m): 11:37am On Apr 29 |
DOptical: You wen no de craze. What is the meaning of Oduduwa in Yoruba? Answer let me credit you 20k 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Ile-ife Is Our Home, Benin Reps Tell Ooni (Video) by TAO11(f): 4:34pm On May 01 |
Christistruth00:No tradition (whether of the Yorubas or of the Binis) says Obagodo/Igodo/Ogodo is of the Obatala lineage. That snippet you attached comes from a book which says Igodo/Obagodo/Ogodo is Oduduwa’s eldest son. Peace! 2 Likes |
Re: Ile-ife Is Our Home, Benin Reps Tell Ooni (Video) by TAO11(f): 4:49pm On May 01 |
JuanDeDios:Obagodo is not from the Obatala lineage actually, but doesn’t change his overall point. Obatala is from Ife. Where are you from? Just curious! 2 Likes |
Re: Ile-ife Is Our Home, Benin Reps Tell Ooni (Video) by TAO11(f): 4:59pm On May 01 |
Iykenuwa:Oduduwa literally means “repository of beinghood”. Use your money buy book. Now my turn: What does "Ekaladerhan" mean? If you don’t know it, then that would prove it is not a Bini/Edo term. It must be a Fulani term then. 2 Likes |
Re: Ile-ife Is Our Home, Benin Reps Tell Ooni (Video) by AutomaticMotors: 5:22pm On May 01 |
TAO11: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
Re: Ile-ife Is Our Home, Benin Reps Tell Ooni (Video) by TAO11(f): 5:40pm On May 01 |
AutomaticMotors:🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Yeah, no one is denying that your little ego is bruised cos “oduduwa” is a Yoruba term and meaning: “Repository of beinghood”. 3 Likes |
Re: Ile-ife Is Our Home, Benin Reps Tell Ooni (Video) by Christistruth00: 6:16pm On May 01 |
Re: Ile-ife Is Our Home, Benin Reps Tell Ooni (Video) by Christistruth00: 6:33pm On May 01 |
TAO11:Tao11 long time You must keep up the good work of History research and Teaching But Oduduwa was the King of Ile Ife and that simply means Igodo was an Ife Prince Even if we aren't sure which dynasty he was from I do accept that Ife Got some timelines wrong because I myself later found out that Oduduwa and Oranmiyan lived in different periods though Oranmiyan truly descended from Oduduwa I am still trying to balance out some timelines especially the one that says 31 Ogiso ruled before Oranmiyan git to Benin Yet the Ogiamien family agreed that Ife and Yorubaland is far Older than Benin and Ife was more Civilized in kingdom building affairs Ibadan Historian Laji Abass says it is generally agreed that at least 93 Obatala dynasty kings ruled Ife before Oduduwa |
Re: Ile-ife Is Our Home, Benin Reps Tell Ooni (Video) by Iykenuwa(m): 9:00am On May 02 |
TAO11: Liars. So a stranger (by all Yoruba accounts) came to Ife with a Yoruba name? That is like saying Kunta Kinte arrived America as Jackson Wright. 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Ile-ife Is Our Home, Benin Reps Tell Ooni (Video) by TAO11(f): 9:02pm On May 02 |
Iykenuwa: Stranger to Ile-Ifẹ, Ifẹ. From Oke-Ọra, Ifẹ. —— I’m not leaving your neck alone if you don’t cry: Oduduwa literally means “repository of beinghood”. Use your money buy book. Now my turn: What does "Ekaladerhan" mean? If you don’t know it, then that would prove it is not a Bini/Edo term. It must be a Fulani term then. 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Ile-ife Is Our Home, Benin Reps Tell Ooni (Video) by Iykenuwa(m): 10:13pm On May 02 |
TAO11: If he was from Oke Ara, how come your fathers claim the following: 1. He was “from the East”. 2. He came from Mecca. 3. He fell from the sky I put it to you that the "Oke Ara" claim is false and a modern attempt to change the facts. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Ile-ife Is Our Home, Benin Reps Tell Ooni (Video) by TAO11(f): 1:15am On May 03 |
Iykenuwa:Lol. (1) Oke-Ọra, Ifẹ account did not come after the Mecca narrative. 89 years before a ‘Mecca’ origin of Oduduwa thesis was published by Johnson, it has already been published that Oduduwa the progenitor of the Yorubas is an aboriginal of Ifẹ. (2) Oke-Ọra, Ifẹ is in the eastern direction from Ile-Ifẹ, Ifẹ I hope that adds the additional comfort you seek. (3) On sky, that is also true because for example the following two (John 6:38 Vs. Matthew 2:1) are both true — because they reference two different realms of discourses. See more! 👇🏾 The same Ife traditions which holds a Heavenly origin (from a religious & metaphysical standpoint) for Ogun Oduduwa, Ọbatala, Ọṣun, et al. of course also realize (from a earthly & historical POV) that Oduduwa is an Ifẹ native, precisely from one of the surrounding hills.—— I’m not leaving your neck alone if you don’t cry: Oduduwa literally means “repository of beinghood”. Use your money buy book. Now my turn: What does "Ekaladerhan" mean? If you don’t know it, then that would prove it is not a Bini/Edo term. It must be a Fulani term then. Cheers 🥂 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ile-ife Is Our Home, Benin Reps Tell Ooni (Video) by Iykenuwa(m): 9:32am On May 03 |
TAO11: Oduduwa was from a village near Ife (same Ife your fathers admit was a village being attacked repeatedly by invaders until Oduduwa came to save them), became a king yet your fathers for hundreds of years claimed he either fell from the sky or came from Mecca. Now you as a local Jack Bauer have come to correct the error of your fathers, Oshey! Point me to five different sources that mention Oduduwa was from Oke Ara. |
Re: Ile-ife Is Our Home, Benin Reps Tell Ooni (Video) by Simbrixton(m): 3:34pm On May 03 |
TAO11:you are doing an amazing work sir this people should read more and stop exposing their primitive mentality 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ile-ife Is Our Home, Benin Reps Tell Ooni (Video) by Simbrixton(m): 3:36pm On May 03 |
Iykenuwa:point 1 source from ife that agrees with the nonsense you said Assumption they say is the lowest form of intelligence shame us and point 1 source 😂😂😂 2 Likes |
Re: Ile-ife Is Our Home, Benin Reps Tell Ooni (Video) by TAO11(f): 4:17am On May 04 |
Iykenuwa:YOU: ”Ife was a village & was attacked until Oduduwa rescue them”. ME: What’s your source? YOU: Just trust me. I’m a man of God, I don’t lie. ME: lmao 🤣 Some people were yet your fathers for hundreds of years claimed he either fell from the sky or came from Mecca.Debunked in the preceding comment. You’re coping now. So, cope harder! Now you as a local Jack Bauer have come to correct the error of your fathers, Oshey!It’s okay that you assumed I wrote those books. You think highly of me. Lol. Point me to five different sources that mention Oduduwa was from Oke Ara.ME: How many times must I flog & shame you before it sinks in? YOU: Five times! ME: This one has lost shame. 🤣 😂 —— I’m not leaving your neck alone if you don’t cry: Oduduwa literally means “repository of beinghood”. Use your money buy book. Now my turn: What does "Ekaladerhan" mean? If you don’t know it, then that would prove it is not a Bini/Edo term. It must be a Fulani term then. Cheers 🥂 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ile-ife Is Our Home, Benin Reps Tell Ooni (Video) by TAO11(f): 12:35am On May 05 |
Christistruth00:Yes o! I got busy with other things ni. And it also feels like the job is done here. But I come once in a while. But Oduduwa was the King of Ile Ife and that simply means Igodo was an Ife PrinceSo, if we're going by the received traditions, then we can’t say we are unsure who the "father" of Igodo, or Ogodo, or Obagodo is; or where he's from. See File-1. The classical received BENIN traditions are very clear that Obagodo is Oodua’s eldest "son" & was from Ife. On the YORUBA side, Rev Samuel Johnson recorded an account which indicates the exact same thing. It says: Oduduwa had children, grandchildren, & great-grand children, such as: Ọranmiyan (youngest grandchild) & Alado [a "King of Benin" (the eldest)] amongst others. It’s obvious from this Yoruba account as well that this pre-Ọranmiyan King of Benin is from Oduduwa’s line. I do accept that Ife Got some timelines wrong because I myself later found out that Oduduwa and Oranmiyan lived in different periods though Oranmiyan truly descended from Oduduwa Oral traditions are not expected to have time-lines & details neatly recalled with impeccable accuracy. In fact if you find such without variations, versions, & inconsistencies of detail; you can be rest assured that what you’re looking at is not oral tradition, but rather some information that has just been carefully cooked in modern times & falsely passed off as oral tradition. So it has nothing to do with Ifẹ folks but everything to do with how oral traditions work. And that is where a professional historian steps in, to sift the wheat from the chaff & come up with an interpretation of best fit. So, if we go by the current interpretations of modern historical scholarship, Oduduwa fl 1000 & Ọranmiyan fl 1200 most likely didn’t meet even when the latter is a grandchild of the former as our tradition specifies. I am still trying to balance out some timelines especially the one that says 31 Ogiso ruled before Oranmiyan git to BeninLool. The supposed number of Ogisos that reigned at 'Benin' differs from writer to writer. Each writer trying to increase the number just to ground an exceptional antiquity for their kingdom—perhaps into the BCs.😅 But because we are dealing with social memory here, folks of a latter time (e.g. fl 2024) can not possibly say they recollect/remember an event of the past (e.g. ca 1924) better than folks of the past/closer to the event (e.g. fl 1940). In other words, the earliest list collected from Benin social memory in the 1910s/1920s should be more dependable & less dubious than latter ones The earliest list of Ogiso, published in the 1930s, has 10 Ogisos & they are: (1) Obagodo (2) Ere (3) Orire (4) Akhuankhuan (5)Ekpigho (6)Oria (7)Emose(8 )Orhorho (9) Obioye & (10) Arigho. Two administrators followed. The 'UNESCO Courier' published this original number even in its October 1959 issue. See File-2 from pg. 13. Using an average of 13 year length of reign (Sargeant 1984:278), the timespan separating Oduduwa/Igodo’s period from Ọranmiyan/2nd-administrator’s period is in line with Oduduwa fl 1000 and Ọranmiyan fl 1200. Ibadan Historian Laji Abass says it is generally agreed that at least 93 Obatala dynasty kings ruled Ife before Oduduwa I’m not sure where he got that from. But I suspect he may have gotten that from an oral annotated king list alluded to by Blier in her 2015 work, & that would be a misunderstanding by him of the real point of the list. Anyway, Ife couldn’t have had 93 pre-Oduduwa ọbas of the Obatala-line as Obatala fluorished in the same period as Oduduwa . It’s an exaggeration, though Ifẹ had pre-Oduduwa monarchs of which Obatala come to be the last of only one of the pre-existing lineages. Cheers! 2 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: Ile-ife Is Our Home, Benin Reps Tell Ooni (Video) by BeigJawnson(m): 6:18pm On May 23 |
BeigJawnson: What is the meaning of BINI for una language and what is the meaning of IFE in Bini language since na BINI PRINCE founded IFE... LET US TAKE IT FROM THERE |
Re: Ile-ife Is Our Home, Benin Reps Tell Ooni (Video) by NitaNot: 6:46am On May 28 |
The current Oba Of Benin is living in medieval times and unfortunately, some shallow headed Bini sons are stuck in the past with him. If the Oba of Benin should wrong you, you too will go to Court. Or are you a SLAVE The Oba of Benin plotted and had his Uncle, Prof. Akenzua, over 85 years old, an esteemed Canada trained Professor of Medicine, National Award Winner, Former DVC, Academics, University of Benin & ex Chairman, Governing Council of the Ambrose Alli University, Ekpoma, arrested AND CHARGED TO COURT on trumped up charges of impersonating himself as the Enogie of Evbuobanosa based on his purported suspension of him. A power, according to the LAW, that he does not have! And unlike some SLAVES think, NOBODY IS ABOVE THE LAW. Infact, na the Oba first go the Court. Prof. Akenzua is simply in Court to ask the Court to remind the Oba that he is NOT ABOVE THE LAW. There is a lot that the Professor has endured, as a Son himself of Oba Akenzua and junior Brother to The Late Oba Erediauwa to protect the Palace. But arresting him and charging him to Court with the intention to have him locked up is the last straw that BROKE the Camel's back. He needs to understand that respect begets respect. Those willing to be Slaves may look upon the Oba as above the law but to his Uncle, of the same and earlier BLUE BLOOD than himself, he is a man that has arrogated to himself powers that he does not have. Sometimes, even Kings, need to be reminded that they are human. Let the Court decide whether the Oba of Benin is LAW above the Nigeria Constitution. |
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