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Martinez39s:
@CaveAdullam

Chairman, if you are having problem contacting me, let me know. Perhaps we may device other means to establish contact. My email is ventodiablo@gmail.com, I kindly await your email anytime you are free. I could have dropped my number here, but you know I am secretive with my identity. Cheers!

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Well done, chief.

This thread is hilarious.

Saviolamemphix, where are you?

Martinez39s:
Saviolamemphix, where are you?

. Good evening bro. I’m just seeing this mention, cause have not being active on nairaland for a while now.

@Martinez39s, longest time bro, good morning, would really love to discuss with you, mehn, I have unplugged from the religious matrix, infact it's the biggest and most organised scam in the world, Kai, marketing hope, miracle, faith, supernatural all packaged nonsense wasting people's time and resources, selling illusion/ delusion to the masses, pastors are conmen, they are highly psychopathic and realistic in their personal life because they fundamentally understand what they are preaching would not yield to any meaningful outcome for their members, worse than heartless yahoo boys, they are more ruthless than our politicians who decieve the masses with lies and propaganda, religion is far worse, it controls you on a psychological level in your subconscious mind because it's redefines the way you interprete the world, it's your core belief system that affects your personality, organised religion is a tool used by elites to subjugate ignorant and emotional masses, religion is a sedative to keep the masses complacent and obedient so they don't complain or question authority, they focus on imaginary things like gods, spirits, heaven, hell, devil etc.

They don't have time for real world subject like proper governance, inflation, taxation, policies, that affect their lives directly on a daily basis, they pray and fast, cast and bind looking for sudden encounters, lolz when I was religious I thought outsiders like you were possessed with evil spirit and doomed eternally to hell, but I'm wiser now, religion weaponizes fear of the uncertainty and current harsh reality to market hope and turnaround


I'm unplugged fully from the programming and brainwashing of my parents and society but can't openly live as an atheist because of ostracization and demonization, many unnecessary wars like where millions have died for their gods have been solely religious, the godlike fear of men of God where they can't be analysed, questioned or judged again makes me disgusted about religion as if they are not human, as if they are not emotional and fallible, religion is the most power matrix and I'm grateful for the internet that enabled to question my dogma and reconstruct my belief system at my own pace, some of your articles were helpful too, prayers are gibberish nonsense, hope is coping mechanisms, faith is long term delusion, fasting is hunger strike, no miracle even if they happen they are the exception to the rule and you can't get an accurate map of reality based on the exceptions that's why religion capitalises upon and hold their members to ransom, same as positivity cult of personal development, rich dad,set goals, positive affirmations, think big, think your way to wealth, desire and all those nonsense, most self help gurus are con men who appear as motivational salesmen, the package ideas that are common sense and sell to the masses, they also market delusional ideas like law of attraction using your mind to create your reality whether you have strategic factors to your advantage or not, the work on optimism, enthusiasm and positivity. religion is insanity on a grand level, it's a cult, it's backward and primitive, it's a control tool, it's a pack of lies and delusions

@Martinez39s, Omo let's leave religion matter and discuss life realities and women, Chai, I just finished my Nysc last month and life after school is cold, everyone minding their business,vwould have gotten a social base in church but I'm too smart to enter system that doesn't benefit me but my pastors, the economy is bad, but in my course of unplugging I left not just the religious matrix, I left the economic, education, relationship matrix, how are you coping since you have graduated long time ago, what online skills are you into or are you doing 9-5, please any suggestions would be helpful at this point, gaming girls as a graduate is different than as a student, sourcing girls is way easier in student area but in the real world outside school you are limited to your geographical location, work space, church, again reading and practising are two different things, theories and analysis are good but action and implementation are the best, starting to see it's effect as a graduate, how are you surviving, are your parents still subsiding your expense, are you living on loans, are you living on paycheck to paycheck, women again during Nysc were marriage minded, they want stability and security, beta buccs, getting sex is harder and to a degree you would have to spend to sustain a relationship, plate or friend with benefit, life is cold and lonely, social media has being an escapism and distraction from the hardship and stress of day to day realities which wastes valuable hours, porn too has become a sedation, hard to go monkmode or set realistic goals because you need capital to survive, meet expenses, network and build your dreams, Nigeria has become survival of the fittest, every man for himself, low trust society, my brother how are you thriving, even if you think of becoming a family man with your scarce resources you become scared of the inflationary economic realities so that you don't bring children into poverty, would love your take on this issue, I am currently not having the economic tools to grant me total freedom but psychologically I'm free, I'm among the intellectual elites, with hardwork, discipline, time and chance (luck), leverage, strategic factors, socioeconomic realities, all in my favor, I should get to the power elites

How far @Martinez39s

JESHAL007:
How far @Martinez39s

I am fine, bro. Coincidentally, I was planning to respond to your post tomorrow. Seems you are out of the religious matrix, the elaborate falsehood. I have been very busy, but I read your post a long time ago.

Martinez39s:
I am fine, bro. Coincidentally, I was planning to respond to your post tomorrow. Seems you are out of the religious matrix, the elaborate falsehood. I have been very busy, but I read your post a long time ago.

It's not easy to escape the matrix since we were programmed and brainwashed from birth till adult,and it's societally encoded into our beliefs, action, interactions, laws, constitution, academics, institutions, I spend most of my life in it and unplugged at 26 yrs, it was a medical emergency that made me unplug, would love to hear your take on religion and life matrix generally

JESHAL007:
It's not easy to escape the matrix since we were programmed and brainwashed from birth till adult,and it's societally encoded into our beliefs, action, interactions, laws, constitution, academics, institutions, I spend most of my life in it and unplugged at 26 yrs, it was a medical emergency that made me unplug, would love to hear your take on religion and life matrix generally

I have written few takes on religion and life. There are two past threads. Not as beautifully written as I would want today, but the idea is easy to grasp.

● On Abrahamic Religions

● Hard Facts of Life

JESHAL007:
@Martinez39s, longest time bro, good morning, would really love to discuss with you, mehn, I have unplugged from the religious matrix,

Well, trust me, I have been interested in hearing your version of events and how you overcame your religious delusions. I have time today. What made you realise that religion is a falsehood? Was you deconversion instant or gradual? Were you a Muslim or Christian?

infact it's the biggest and most organised scam in the world, Kai, marketing hope, miracle, faith, supernatural all packaged nonsense wasting people's time and resources, selling illusion/ delusion to the masses,

Everything supernatural is a big scam. No such thing as the supernatural. This is why supernatural beliefs and supposed supernatural phenomena can't stand the test of performance or meet the burden of proof.

pastors are conmen, they are highly psychopathic and realistic in their personal life because they fundamentally understand what they are preaching would not yield to any meaningful outcome for their members, worse than heartless yahoo boys, they are more ruthless than our politicians who decieve the masses with lies and propaganda,

You are right. No matter how sincere they want to appear, virtually all pastors know deep down that their religion is false, or at least religion has no substance. It's all talk and no bite. Their jobs are made easy by the fact that their gullible congregation aren't just ignorant, they also want to be deceived.

religion is far worse, it controls you on a psychological level in your subconscious mind because it's redefines the way you interprete the world, it's your core belief system that affects your personality,

Yeah. Remember, it's a brainwashing that arrested us from infancy and was part of the matrix in which we were bred and lived out our formative years. The outlook religion gave us dominated out crucial developmental stages. So that is why it has a strong psychological hold on an individual and it is difficult to shed.

For many, stepping outside religion doesn't just require reasoning, it requires emotional independence and the fortitude to comfortably confront one's mortality and the fear of the unknown.

organised religion is a tool used by elites to subjugate ignorant and emotional masses, religion is a sedative to keep the masses complacent and obedient so they don't complain or question authority, they focus on imaginary things like gods, spirits, heaven, hell, devil etc.

Aptly said. Religion has been used to establish many sorts of control over human behaviour and outlook.

In the transatlantic slave era, Christianity was used to make slaves less rebellious and more compliant using scriptures such as:
(1) "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ." Ephesians 6 vs 5;

(2) "³⁸ “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’[h] ³⁹ But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. ⁴⁰ And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. ⁴¹ If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. ⁴² Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you." Matthew 5 vs 38 - 42;

(3) list yours.

Also, Christianity in the past made the poor less willing to rebel against the elite who were oppressing and looting their future away by consoling them with rich promises in the hereafter; telling them that all is vanity upon vanity and only what is in the afterlife and divine purposes matter; and telling them that it is hard for rich people to enter heaven, hence giving them (the poor) the illusion of a monopoly on divine riches and salvation. They thought they will have the last laugh, so they maintained and endured.

This is why religion was known in the past as the opium of the masses. Opium sedated, chained and seemingly tranquilised smokers in opium dens for days back then by giving them euphoric highs and sweet illusory states that made them contented. If those poor people knew they had no hope and had the fight violently for the life they wanted, the elites would be in trouble.

I won't even talk about how Islam encouraged war against non-Muslims, made the Arabs the biggest players ever in human slave trade history, stimulated genocides and terrorism for scriptural reasons, child marriages, etc.

There are many other things to say in this regard, but I will stop here.

They don't have time for real world subject like proper governance, inflation, taxation, policies, that affect their lives directly on a daily basis, they pray and fast, cast and bind looking for sudden encounters,

They are just ruthless men doing their business and it's in their best interest to focus on religious concepts and activities that keep the minds of their members locked in. Unfortunately, some of them are stooges of corrupt politicians who capitalise on their members to garner votes.

lolz when I was religious I thought outsiders like you were possessed with evil spirit and doomed eternally to hell, but I'm wiser now, religion weaponizes fear of the uncertainty and current harsh reality to market hope and turnaround

Understandable. By religion, anything not of god is of the devil. This is how our traditional gods and practices became associated with demonic origins and luciferian influence after our ancestors adopted Christianity.

I'm unplugged fully from the programming and brainwashing of my parents and society but can't openly live as an atheist because of ostracization and demonization,

You are not alone. Sha stay safe. It is worse for people in muslim societies.

many unnecessary wars like where millions have died for their gods have been solely religious,

In the past when a tribe or group coveted the lands and resources of foreigners, they convinced themselves that the foreigners were heathens and it is the will of god to seize the land from them and use it's resources. The same was true if they coveted the women of the foreigners. Also, people fought over lands that they believed their gods had promised their ancestors. Too bad if the gods of two distinct religions promised the same land to their followers.

Christianity, Islam, etc were guilty of this. Also, Islam has the goal of jihad and Jewish extermination. Recently, you saw how Palestinians brutally butchered and kidnapped Isreali civilians because of a religious end time prophecy and the belief jews had no right to their land. This is something they will maintain, do over and over if given the chance, and then pass their delusions and sentiments to their descendants.

the godlike fear of men of God where they can't be analysed, questioned or judged again makes me disgusted about religion as if they are not human, as if they are not emotional and fallible,

Apt. Due to this, a lot of men have gotten away with heinous wickedness, hypocrisy, abuses and all sorts of incriminatory acts (eg false prophecies) because they are seen as pastors by their members. They are never criticised and excuses are readily made for them. "Touch not my anointed", "Judge not", and "He who is without sin should cast the first stone" they said.

religion is the most power matrix and I'm grateful for the internet that enabled to question my dogma and reconstruct my belief system at my own pace, some of your articles were helpful too, prayers are gibberish nonsense, hope is coping mechanisms, faith is long term delusion, fasting is hunger strike, no miracle even if they happen they are the exception to the rule and you can't get an accurate map of reality based on the exceptions that's why religion capitalises upon and hold their members to ransom, same as positivity cult of personal development, rich dad,set goals, positive affirmations, think big, think your way to wealth, desire and all those nonsense, most self help gurus are con men who appear as motivational salesmen, the package ideas that are common sense and sell to the masses, they also market delusional ideas like law of attraction using your mind to create your reality whether you have strategic factors to your advantage or not, the work on optimism, enthusiasm and positivity. religion is insanity on a grand level, it's a cult, it's backward and primitive, it's a control tool, it's a pack of lies and delusions

You are right. However, there are no miracles that are exception. Miracles simply do not exist. They never did and never will.

JESHAL007:
It's not easy to escape the matrix since we were programmed and brainwashed from birth till adult,and it's societally encoded into our beliefs, action, interactions, laws, constitution, academics, institutions, I spend most of my life in it and unplugged at 26 yrs, it was a medical emergency that made me unplug, would love to hear your take on religion and life matrix generally

Would love you to shed more light on this.

Martinez39s:
Would love you to shed more light on this.

I had a skin disease an it was spreading fast, I was praying day and night and reading my Bible for months, but the irony was that I had medication to combat it, but since I was in the religious mindset, I read books on healing and faith especially Kenneth hagin books and my mom who is devoutly religious asked me not to use my medication as prescribed by the physician but to use holy Communion and anointing oil and have strong faith, she was even blaming my lack of recovery on my weak faith, i woke up one morning and discovered that it had spread all over my body aggressively and i had to be hospitalized, my doctors warned me that i should not skip my medications again and then it dawned on me why would I be praying and holy and my conditions deteriorate, my eyes opened by asking that single question, then i deductive concluded that religion is fake, faith doesnt work, now that I use my drugs my symptoms are under control


My deconversion was instant

How can I wake up early ,do the necessary to make it to an event and be asked to give my sit to her because she's a woman.. To hell with " woman first.

JESHAL007:
I had a skin disease an it was spreading fast, I was praying day and night and reading my Bible for months, but the irony was that I had medication to combat it, but since I was in the religious mindset, I read books on healing and faith especially Kenneth hagin books and my mom who is devoutly religious asked me not to use my medication as prescribed by the physician but to use holy Communion and anointing oil and have strong faith, she was even blaming my lack of recovery on my weak faith, i woke up one morning and discovered that it had spread all over my body aggressively and i had to be hospitalized, my doctors warned me that i should not skip my medications again and then it dawned on me why would I be praying and holy and my conditions deteriorate, my eyes opened by asking that single question, then i deductive concluded that religion is fake, faith doesnt work, now that I use my drugs my symptoms are under control


My deconversion was instant

The medication itself is an answer to prayer. The intelligence God gave man us a blessing and using it to create drugs ir machines is an answer to orayer. Scientific discoveries is a blessing from God who gave man wisdom.

An example.
A man was about to drown in water and prayed to God to help him. He saw an helicopter but refused to go in it. When he died he told the angel that his prayer was not answered but then, the angel told him he sent an helicopter but he refused to tske it.
So you get it.
The problem is that some religious ideologies believe the physical world and himsn knowledge is in total opposition to God. However, this is not always true