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Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by Nobody: 10:02am On Mar 31
triplechoice:
Oh! .A Sherlock Holmes has come to Nairaland!

So you think I am Budaatum, and also Deepsight? That is genuinely amusing. You need to be corrected before your imagination runs completely wild..

A person's writing style is like their voice, unique and impossible to replicate exactly across different moniker.. The science backs this. Go through my post history and then compare it to Budaatum's and Deepsight's.. The differences are stark and obvious

Some persons on this forum know me personally. They know where I live and work in Nigeria. They've also met me offline. Budaatum is an elderly person known to live in the UK. Deepsight has been around for years but I don't know his location

Your accusation that we are the same person suggests that you are familiar with running multiple handles. That is your own habit, not mine. Do not project your tactics onto me.

Next time do your homework before making wild allegations.
Still working on the current homework codedly... but my next topic is going to be lit..🧐
Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by Dtruthspeaker: 12:07pm On Mar 31
ono:
You are either deliberately twisting God's Word or you are ignorant of the fact that this exact same tactics you've deployed here now (bits and pieces of God's words and commands strewn to confuse the gullible) is what Satan used in the Garden of Eden to deceive Eve.

Yield to the Lord's calling budaatum dear. He will lead you aright and set you free.
Now you are seeing who and what badatum is about.
Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by Dtruthspeaker: 1:28pm On Mar 31
ono:
I will be very very careful with what a google AI search throws up as "answers" on spirituality. budaatum should be smart enough to appreciate this. It is especially very dangerous for one who is pretty much subject to carnal desires and human flailing to dabble in spiritual things, exposing such an one to the manipulative schemes of demonic forces and Satan himself.
See the day badatum disgraced himself in his created self confusion

https://www.nairaland.com/8074757/budaatum-confesses-spirit-real#129658806

https://www.nairaland.com/8061156/atheist-says-spirit-nothing-because/1#129479047
Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by DeepSight(op): 1:40pm On Mar 31
Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by Dtruthspeaker: 2:23pm On Mar 31
DeepSight:
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Haven't really seen any embarrassment
Are you now pretending not to see he said "spirits don't exist" only for him to shoot himself in the head confessing that "Spirit is real"?

Anyway, you yourself are known to love lies

Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by StillDtruth: 5:27am On Apr 17, 2024
budaatum:
Only fools relies on their naked eyes alone. Some get glasses so they can see better.
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Yet you said "spirit dont exist".

So, why do.you say they do not exist, since you know only fools rely on their naked eyes alone?
Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by DeepSight(op): 2:25pm On Mar 31
Dtruthspeaker:
Are you now pretending not to see he said "spirits don't exist" only for him to shoot himself in the head confessing that "Spirit is real"?

Anyway, you yourself are known to love lies

Re: Atheist Says Spirit Is Nothing Because It Is Non Physical & Invisible by StillDtruth: 5:27am On Apr 17, 2024
budaatum:
Only fools relies on their naked eyes alone. Some get glasses so they can see better.
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Yet you said "spirit dont exist".

So, why do.you say they do not exist, since you know only fools rely on their naked eyes alone?
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I saw him/ her describe what he/she meant. and specifically say that for example, reading your posts is seeing evidence of your spirit.
Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by Dtruthspeaker: 2:36pm On Mar 31
DeepSight:
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I saw him/ her describe what he/she meant. and specifically say that for example, reading your posts is seeing evidence of your spirit.
Budaatum is a he and you being an old timer should have known this.

Secondly, the bold, disgraces him for how does he see the spirit which he has already said "does not exist"?
Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by budaatum:
DeepSight:
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It's very rare for a Nairalanders gender to become an issue on this board. The only other person I can remember in similar terms was a poster called pilgrim1 who many alleged was viaro. Okay there was also one mavenbox/inesqor. Many years ago.

Personally I think you are the one making it an issue especially with statements such as saying you go by "they/them." We are not unenlightened, everyone knows what that suggests.
I can live with whatever it suggests, deepsight. And to be sincere, I love the mystique too. Just see the attention your thread has generated already, lol. The fact I can be here as long as I have and most still wonder is kind of an achievement. And amusing when those who get my gender wrong claim to know whatever about me.

DeepSight:
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I was rather hoping you would comment on the truth of their teachings. I found a lot of truth in the teachings of the Rosicrucian Order and even in those of Eckankar.
Oh. Truth, lol. Okay, let me try.

Everything written in The Mystical Life of Jesus, is uncorroborated and is likely to be untrue, while everything written in Mental Alchemy can be made to be true or not.

You asked about spirituality earlier, and this is sort of where it applies. It necessitates not seeing things as dichotomic.

DeepSight:
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What do you mean by the bold. Are you saying that core Buddhism is closest to your belief system, coupled with the essentials of most religions splashed with philosophy?
You do keep insisting on this "belief" thing, lol.

My buddhism, Zen, to be specific, is not a belief system, but more of a philosophy. As in, a lens that one sees through. One does not carry the boat along the journey after a river is crossed. You leave the boat and walk.

Basically, the cause of my own dhukka is my own tanha. And the solution to my tanha is the Eight Fold Path. It makes me responsible for myself.

DeepSight:
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So you really think the physical body is all there is to us? That would be odd for one given to so much mysticism.
No sir, I do not "really think the physical body is all there is to us". I am not currently engaging with your physical body, I am engaging with your mind. When I die though, my mind will die with me. But please know that sneaky me is ensuring I live on after I die. I'll tell you how only if you ask.

DeepSight:
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How could you have interacted with me so long on this board and make this disastrous presumption? Of course not, and I do not think of those entities as God. Though I do not begrudge those who have the creator in mind when they speak those names.
Sincerely speaking, I don't think we have interacted as much as you think. Or shall I say, not as deep. And I mentioned those specific gods more for the response.

God, in any form, and as far as I am concerned, is a gap filler. Those willing to know will seek more instead of filling the gap with gods and no more seeking.

My insistence on writing "god" is so only God is not assumed.

DeepSight:
I am asking you about a necessary uncaused cause of all other existence.
Even gods must have causes, unless one wants to claim gods are uncaused, which in my view invalidates the idea of an uncaused cause of anything.

Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down

Please know that language is an imperfect medium to put these things across. In Zen we'd ask if you can hear me clapping with one hand. I appreciate that your questions make me struggle.
Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by ono(m): 4:34pm On Mar 31
budaatum:
I can live with whatever it suggests, deepsight. And to be sincere, I love the mystique too. Just see the attention your thread has generated already, lol. The fact I can be here as long as I have and most still wonder is kind of an achievement. And amusing when those who get my gender wrong claim to know whatever about me.


Oh. Truth, lol. Okay, let me try.

Everything written in The Mystical Life of Jesus, is uncorroborated and is likely to be untrue, while everything written in Mental Alchemy can be made to be true or not.

You asked about spirituality earlier, and this is sort of where it applies. It necessitates not seeing things as dichotomic.


You do keep insisting on this "belief" thing, lol.

My buddhism, Zen, to be specific, is not a belief system, but more of a philosophy. As in, a lens that one sees through. One does not carry the boat along the journey after a river is crossed. You leave the boat and walk.

Basically, the cause of my own dhukka is my own tanha. And the solution to my tanha is the Eight Fold Path. It makes me responsible for myself.


No sir, I do not "really think the physical body is all there is to us". I am not currently engaging with your physical body, I am engaging with your mind. When I die though, my mind will die with me. But please know that sneaky me is ensuring I live on after I die. I'll tell you how only if you ask.


Sincerely speaking, I don't think we have interacted as much as you think. Or shall I say, not as deep. And I mentioned those specific gods more for the response.

God, in any form, and as far as I am concerned, is a gap filler. Those willing to know will seek more instead of filling the gap with gods and no more seeking.

My insistence on writing "god" is so only God is not assumed.



Even gods must have causes, unless one wants to claim gods are uncaused, which in my view invalidates the idea of an uncaused cause of anything.

Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down

Please know that language is an imperfect medium to put these things across. In Zen we'd ask if you can hear me clapping with one hand. I appreciate that your questions make me struggle.
It is because of all these complexities that I resigned to the belief approach to life. You’re not being lazy to not want to “go deeper”, you’re only acknowledging the limitations imposed on you by the system you were born into and the fact that there’s an inherent corruption that was “injected” into it that you’d do well to steer clear of.


In the end, at the very least, we all agree that we didn’t just fall from the sky. A male gender and female gender did copulate to bring us into this world. Science is still trying to figure out how “life” is given and why they can’t prevent death from happening.
Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by budaatum: 4:43pm On Mar 31
DeepSight:
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Haven't really seen any embarrassment
That might be because you are not looking through his lens, and are looking through your own eyes and therefore see different.

Einstein's General Theory of Relativity, is lens forming. Those not aware might think we all must see the same things, and we become displeased when others do not see how one sees. Such do not understand that we fly with what we consume, a la, we reason how we are conditioned to reason, and see through the lenses we place in front of our eyes. Essentially, different lenses, different perceptions. But some will claim their sight (opinion, view, ideology, gods etc) is the only valid one.
Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by budaatum: 4:59pm On Mar 31
ono:
It is because of all these complexities that I resigned to the belief approach to life. You’re not being lazy to not want to “go deeper”, you’re only acknowledging the limitations imposed on you by the system you were born into and the fact that there’s an inherent corruption that was “injected” into it that you’d do well to steer clear of.
I am your exact opposite, ono. The complexities make me work harder and ask and knock and seek with all my heart and soul and mind and means and body and time. And it includes overcoming my limitations as much as I possibly can. For being perfect (not that I am close, mind), is how a very wise person once told me is how to glorify the Father, if I so desire to that is. And not trying is like offering one's god Cain's offering and being displeased that God prefers that of Abel.

I do not merely accept the system I am born into, ono. I study the system and other systems so I can choose what system I live in and by or how I may change the system to however I want it to be.

It might be because I do not accept the system of Adam, and would rather choose that of God's Image. And would do an Eve to get it if I must.

ono:
In the end, at the very least, we all agree that we didn’t just fall from the sky. A male gender and female gender did copulate to bring us into this world. Science is still trying to figure out how “life” is given and why they can’t prevent death from happening.
My lovely mummy and daddy copulated and produced buda.

And as is said, valar morghulis.
Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by budaatum: 6:38pm On Mar 31
ono:
I will be very very careful with what a google AI search throws up as "answers" on spirituality. budaatum should be smart enough to appreciate this. It is especially very dangerous for one who is pretty much subject to carnal desires and human flailing to dabble in spiritual things, exposing such an one to the manipulative schemes of demonic forces and Satan himself.
AI is presented to you as a start for your own research.

As for your "dangerous" bit, I am afraid you have insufficient knowledge, by your own admission, for your opinion on the subject to be seriously considered, though I am reluctant to assume you are claiming I have carnal desires. Do correct me if you are making that claim please.
Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by ono(m):
budaatum:
AI is presented to you as a start for your own research.

As for your "dangerous" bit, I am afraid you have insufficient knowledge, by your own admission, for your opinion on the subject to be seriously considered, though I am reluctant to assume you are claiming I have carnal desires. Do correct me if you are making that claim please.
We have different world-views; that, I have come to realise. You revel in the acquisition of knowledge - to any level your brain power can take you to, not minding the fact that even the best of human brains (I heard Albert Einstein’s brain is kept in a laboratory museum for study) have limitations - they can stop functioning after some years, even if the one with the brain wants to use the brain.

What’s sobering for me to you in all these is that God warned mankind about a lot of the things you’ve gone into. They’re at the very root of Satan’s behaviour before his fall. This thing called pride.

What I say here to you can easily be misconstrued to mean different things to you, compared to what I mean.

You also do a lot of shape-shifting. It’s difficult to hold you by your words. I have noted this: another attribute of a proud, obstinate and self indulgent person. It was pride that brought down the devil. Remember this when all is said and done.

Isaiah 14:12 -15 KJV
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by Nobody: 8:21pm On Mar 31
budaatum:
I can live with whatever it suggests, deepsight. And to be sincere, I love the mystique too. Just see the attention your thread has generated already, lol. The fact I can be here as long as I have and most still wonder is kind of an achievement. And amusing when those who get my gender wrong claim to know whatever about me.


Oh. Truth, lol. Okay, let me try.

Everything written in The Mystical Life of Jesus, is uncorroborated and is likely to be untrue, while everything written in Mental Alchemy can be made to be true or not.

You asked about spirituality earlier, and this is sort of where it applies. It necessitates not seeing things as dichotomic.


You do keep insisting on this "belief" thing, lol.

My buddhism, Zen, to be specific, is not a belief system, but more of a philosophy. As in, a lens that one sees through. One does not carry the boat along the journey after a river is crossed. You leave the boat and walk.

Basically, the cause of my own dhukka is my own tanha. And the solution to my tanha is the Eight Fold Path. It makes me responsible for myself.


No sir, I do not "really think the physical body is all there is to us". I am not currently engaging with your physical body, I am engaging with your mind. When I die though, my mind will die with me. But please know that sneaky me is ensuring I live on after I die. I'll tell you how only if you ask.


Sincerely speaking, I don't think we have interacted as much as you think. Or shall I say, not as deep. And I mentioned those specific gods more for the response.

God, in any form, and as far as I am concerned, is a gap filler. Those willing to know will seek more instead of filling the gap with gods and no more seeking.

My insistence on writing "god" is so only God is not assumed.



Even gods must have causes, unless one wants to claim gods are uncaused, which in my view invalidates the idea of an uncaused cause of anything.

Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down

Please know that language is an imperfect medium to put these things across. In Zen we'd ask if you can hear me clapping with one hand. I appreciate that your questions make me struggle.
I’ve definitely found the first layer. I’m hoping to uncover something deeper 🤔 I just want to bookmark this. But other evidences will fall in place and I’ll understand the main aim.

I can live with whatever it suggests, deepsight. And to be sincere, I love the mystique too. Just see the attention your thread has generated already, lol. The fact I can be here as long as I have and most still wonder is kind of an achievement. And amusing when those who get my gender wrong claim to know whatever about me.
Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by DeepSight(op): 8:50pm On Mar 31
SpencerForbes:
I’ve definitely found the first layer. I’m hoping to uncover something deeper 🤔 I just want to bookmark this. But other evidences will fall in place and I’ll understand the main aim.

[b][/b]
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grin
Joker
Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by Nobody: 8:55pm On Mar 31
DeepSight:
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grin
Joker
True. The big question now is: is budaatum actually a clout chaser, or is she just trying to distract me from the real motive behind this staged publicity? Mark my words, on the final day, this thread will end up in the Diary section with zero replies. I’ll just sit back and watch how three or more of those handles crawl out to defend their precious budaatum—all without further hype—just so people can finally see the psychology behind how buda is low-key peddling that Rossi religion.
Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by triplechoice(m): 10:42am On Apr 01
SpencerForbes:
Still working on the current homework codedly... but my next topic is going to be lit..🧐
Let me help you so your work becomes very easy.

Here is the genesis of what you jumped into midway. It's because you don't know the complete story you are confused about what's going on

https://www.nairaland.com/7731741/mission#123856489

https://www.nairaland.com/6942843/matter-mind/36#116555518

Read my comments in the threads above and please come back to make your findings public.
Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by budaatum: 3:54pm On Apr 01
ono:
We have different world-views; that, I have come to realise. You revel in the acquisition of knowledge - to any level your brain power can take you to, not minding the fact that even the best of human brains (I heard Albert Einstein’s brain is kept in a laboratory museum for study) have limitations - they can stop functioning after some years, even if the one with the brain wants to use the brain.
So, you therefore choose to not use your own brain because it will stop functioning after some years?

I have a parable for you but I really don't expect you to understand it in this context unless you use your brain. Thankfully, it's use is not exactly optional, as there's the slight issue of a spirit that will minister to you whether you heed it or not.

I permit you to change "hath" in the below to 'use', or simple read it as "hath a functioning brain" too. Your God will forgive you and punish me instead. Amen.

Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by budaatum: 4:00pm On Apr 01
This thread was definitely created because of very relevant and important you, SpencerForbes. The op was thinking, "let me go and distract SpencerForbes from whatever SpencerForbes is doing. And I shall use buda because buda distracts SpencerForbes the most and it will give buda more clout to chase.

SpencerForbes:
True. The big question now is: is budaatum actually a clout chaser, or is she just trying to distract me from the real motive behind this staged publicity?
Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by Nobody: 4:15pm On Apr 01
budaatum:
This thread was definitely created because of very relevant and important you, SpencerForbes. The op was thinking, "let me go and distract SpencerForbes from whatever SpencerForbes is doing. And I shall use buda because buda distracts SpencerForbes the most and it will give buda more clout to chase.
Let’s look at the timeline. Nice try, but the facts say otherwise. The post in question came after the thread was created and after I had already asked if this was a marketing stunt or just clout-chasing.

Your immediate attempt to confirm the 'clout-chasing' angle isn't convincing. The timeline doesn't support your narrative.
Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by budaatum: 4:16pm On Apr 01
ono:
You also do a lot of shape-shifting. It’s difficult to hold you by your words. I have noted this: .....
Ono, you have not developed your brain sufficiently to understand buda at all, not to talk of hold buda down, whatever it is you mean by that.

You are not even trying to understand, instead afraid you would use up your brain and have none left, and fear buda is satan.

Yes, buda is a very very complex individual indeed, and complexity is satanic to some, especially those who use their brain only a little.

I guess I stand in the company of those of whom such was said.

Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by budaatum: 4:23pm On Apr 01
SpencerForbes:
Let’s look at the timeline.
Feel free please. I for one have no intention nor reason to convince very important and significant relevant SpencerForbes of anything at all.

Intelligent people will click on the link in my initial post in this thread and form better and more logical opinions than yours.

budaatum:
For the curious, this began here.

https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-47th/5851#138941496
Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by Nobody: 4:34pm On Apr 01
budaatum:
Feel free please. I for one have no intention nor reason to convince very important and significant relevant SpencerForbes of anything at all.

Intelligent people will click on the link in my initial post in this thread and form better and more logical opinions than yours.
I’ve said from the beginning that this is about more than just me. My concern is why you are operating covertly instead of being open about your intentions. Is there a quota for how many Nigerian souls you need to 'win' or a reward for everyone you initiate through this Rossi narrative? Are you on a recruitment drive for Nigerian initiates? You seem obsessed with preaching 'Rossi' through the back door.

I knew exactly where this discussion was headed. My focus remains on your true objective. Why the secrecy? If this path is so beneficial, why isn't it being presented transparently— why not preach it openly like our local pastors?

A clear conscience fears no accusation, and you shouldn't feel the need to prove anything. Rest assured, if I uncover any hidden danger in this, I will unravel it and post the evidence for everyone to see.
Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by KobolanderSegun: 5:15pm On Apr 01
budaatum:
Deep, you really don't need to tell me what SpencerForbes is doing since I can very easily find out for myself. It just amuses me that people would make such false claims and then expect to be seriously considered.

It's like people claiming they 'believe' in the existence of a god they have no evidence for, when its obvious they merely believe because they do not know if their god exists or not.
Does God exist ? It depends on what is God and what attributes are referred to as belonging to God. If God is called the Creator then God Exists. If an Unconscious act like the Big Bang created the Universe that Unconscious Act will be called God. If Unconscious Forces Created the Universe those Forces will be called God the Creator.

God with a small g.

Why would God have a small g when Streets in Lagos Nigeria all start with capital letters.

New York, London, Sweden all have Capital Letters. Then why would an event that created everything have a small letter ?
Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by KobolanderSegun: 5:21pm On Apr 01
SpencerForbes:
I’ve said from the beginning that this is about more than just me. My concern is why you are operating covertly instead of being open about your intentions. Is there a quota for how many Nigerian souls you need to 'win' or a reward for everyone you initiate through this Rossi narrative? Are you on a recruitment drive for Nigerian initiates? You seem obsessed with preaching 'Rossi' through the back door.

I knew exactly where this discussion was headed. My focus remains on your true objective. Why the secrecy? If this path is so beneficial, why isn't it being presented transparently— why not preach it openly like our local pastors?

A clear conscience fears no accusation, and you shouldn't feel the need to prove anything. Rest assured, if I uncover any hidden danger in this, I will unravel it and post the evidence for everyone to see.
Secrecy is often a sign one does not know what one is doing because full knowledge allows one to express one's self without fear.
Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by Nobody: 5:33pm On Apr 01
KobolanderSegun:
Secrecy is often a sign one does not know what one is doing because full knowledge allows one to express one's self without fear.
The logic here doesn't add up. They claim to want privacy, yet they crave the attention. It’s a contradiction. You can't claim secrecy while simultaneously brandishing this Rossi religion for everyone to see. It’s 'public secrecy'—a performance.

It seems they only want us to see the 'advertised' version of this Rossi religion while keeping the mechanics shrouded in mystery. They are working overtime to remain mysterious while making sure the brand stays in our faces.

This inconsistency is what caught my attention. Is there a fear of repercussions if something goes wrong with the new initiates—probably avoiding accountability for potential consequences to new members? Or is this just an elitist gatekeeping tactic where only those 'initiated' are allowed to see the real person? Either way, the lack of transparency suggests there’s something they aren't prepared to defend in the open.
Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by KobolanderSegun: 5:51pm On Apr 01
SpencerForbes:
The logic here doesn't add up. They claim to want privacy, yet they crave the attention. It’s a contradiction. You can't claim secrecy while simultaneously brandishing this Rossi religion for everyone to see. It’s 'public secrecy'—a performance.

It seems they only want us to see the 'advertised' version of this Rossi religion while keeping the mechanics shrouded in mystery. They are working overtime to remain mysterious while making sure the brand stays in our faces.

This inconsistency is what caught my attention. Is there a fear of repercussions if something goes wrong with the new initiates—probably avoiding accountability for potential consequences to new members? Or is this just an elitist gatekeeping tactic where only those 'initiated' are allowed to see the real person? Either way, the lack of transparency suggests there’s something they aren't prepared to defend in the open.
Anyone who thinks they can over shine Jesus Christ is living in a delusion. Anyone who thinks they are smarter than Jesus Christ will live in oblivion.

When you consider all the " Great " thinkers were are they now ? Where are Socrates, Plato and the rest ? Despite my Non Conformist ways I give Jesus Christ his due because that is truly the Greatest Thinker there ever was and ever will be.

Jesus Christ taught simple Advanced Science so when I see a so called scientist not acknowledge Jesus I know that they don't know science well enough.

When I see a Thinker discredit Jesus I know that person has not thought hard enough.

It's simple it's like playing football and you say " Victor Osimhen is not a good footballer " it means one of two things 1. You have never watched football or 2. You have never seen Victor Osimhen play football.

There is No One smarter than Jesus Christ. A man that died 2,025 years ago and people sing his praises on Sunday Globally.

Me that has not been to a Church in 25 years sings his praise at home and on This Forum.

A man that the Romans changed the Global Calendar based on His Birthday. The Romans where the World Power at the Time and they bowed to his Teachings. They never thought highly of people from the middle east but they thought extremely highly of Him
Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by DeepSight(op): 7:26pm On Apr 01
KobolanderSegun:
Anyone who thinks they can over shine Jesus Christ is living in a delusion. Anyone who thinks they are smarter than Jesus Christ will live in oblivion.

When you consider all the " Great " thinkers were are they now ? Where are Socrates, Plato and the rest ? Despite my Non Conformist ways I give Jesus Christ his due because that is truly the Greatest Thinker there ever was and ever will be.

Jesus Christ taught simple Advanced Science so when I see a so called scientist not acknowledge Jesus I know that they don't know science well enough.

When I see a Thinker discredit Jesus I know that person has not thought hard enough.

It's simple it's like playing football and you say " Victor Osimhen is not a good footballer " it means one of two things 1. You have never watched football or 2. You have never seen Victor Osimhen play football.

There is No One smarter than Jesus Christ. A man that died 2,025 years ago and people sing his praises on Sunday Globally.

Me that has not been to a Church in 25 years sings his praise at home and on This Forum.

A man that the Romans changed the Global Calendar based on His Birthday. The Romans where the World Power at the Time and they bowed to his Teachings. They never thought highly of people from the middle east but they thought extremely highly of Him
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Three quick things sir. . .

I am not sure the distinguishing attribute of Christ was intellect (or whatever you call being "smart". . . Secondly, Jesus was likely not born on December 25, the Romans chose that date to align with the Saturnalia. . . . Thirdly the adoption of Christianity by Rome was likely a political masterstroke and not necessarily a spiritual thing.
Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by budaatum: 7:31pm On Apr 01
KobolanderSegun:
It depends on what is God and what attributes are referred to as belonging to God. If God is called the Creator then God Exists.
Obatala, and Brahma (Hinduism), and Ra and Atum (Egypt), and Izanagi and Izanami (Japan), and Gaia (Greece), and Pangu (China) are all gods that were called the creator of the universe.

Would you claim that they all exist or existed?

KobolanderSegun:
If an Unconscious act like the Big Bang created the Universe that Unconscious Act will be called God. If Unconscious Forces Created the Universe those Forces will be called God the Creator.
Unconscious how? Unconscious to whom?

And why call it god or God when you can simply refer to it as the Big Bang that it is?

KobolanderSegun:
Then why would an event that created everything have a small letter ?
I think you should first establish that an event created everything" before claiming it was created by anything. You haven't, so I'm not having it. Sorry.

Scientists do not claim the Big Bang "created everything". They concede that something big must have existed for anything to go bang even though they haven't a clue what that thing might have been. That is however not an excuse to call it God. They are very content saying they do not know.
Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by KobolanderSegun: 11:18am On Apr 02
budaatum:
Obatala, and Brahma (Hinduism), and Ra and Atum (Egypt), and Izanagi and Izanami (Japan), and Gaia (Greece), and Pangu (China) are all gods that were called the creator of the universe.

Would you claim that they all exist or existed?


Unconscious how? Unconscious to whom?

And why call it god or God when you can simply refer to it as the Big Bang that it is?


I think you should first establish that an event created everything" before claiming it was created by anything. You haven't, so I'm not having it. Sorry.

Scientists do not claim the Big Bang "created everything". They concede that something big must have existed for anything to go bang even though they haven't a clue what that thing might have been. That is however not an excuse to call it God. They are very content saying they do not know.
Iv done everything you have done, and I have thought everything you have ever thought
Re: The Demystification Of Budaatum - An Interview. by KobolanderSegun: 11:38am On Apr 02
DeepSight:
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Three quick things sir. . .

I am not sure the distinguishing attribute of Christ was intellect (or whatever you call being "smart". . . Secondly, Jesus was likely not born on December 25, the Romans chose that date to align with the Saturnalia. . . . Thirdly the adoption of Christianity by Rome was likely a political masterstroke and not necessarily a spiritual thing.
If it was a political stroke they would have gotten rid of it immediately after they had achieved their goals..

" once people wear a mask they take off the mask to breathe properly."

Everyone knows how the Romans choose December....... But why did all the pagan religions they had die ?

If the role was to mask their pagan religions why did those religions pass away. I'm extremely conversant with all Religions and cults that have ever existed but why is Christianity still standing ?

I'm even against Christians making noise because of their pagan barbaric methods of worshipping of God.

Why have I not gone to church for 25 years and even mock Christians and laugh at Jesus Christ disciples who winned and dined with him ? . Why then do I not extent the disrespect to Jesus ?

Because Laughing at Jesus is as Foolish as a basketballer Laughing at Michael Jordan. I can laugh at Scottie Pipen because he is no Michael Jordan
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