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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 11:54pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
United's Under-21s lost their unbeaten record to Leicester despite a goal from James Wilson in a 3-2 defeat. Former Red Jack Barmby fired an injury-time winner |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 11:56pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
Na wah o...for now we will have to use Carrick/McCnair and Blackett as CB....chaii |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 12:04am On Nov 04, 2014 |
Rojo out for 3weeks |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:15am On Nov 04, 2014 |
chrisley024: Even our regular full backs do leave a whole lot of space for CBs to cover for them. Is it the first time you have seen Smalling and Jones cover several times for full backs in a match? When we conceded 5 goals against Leicester, you did not talk like this. Other small teams have been running easily at DDG. City with all the Milner, Toure, Aguero and Navas were always going to trouble us. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 6:45am On Nov 04, 2014 |
elampiro:The difference is that the team was counter attacked unlike Valencia's. I don't blame him though, he was decent as an attacker playing a RB position. You hardly see any attacker that could perform as he did. But better we find a back-up for Rafael. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 8:58am On Nov 04, 2014 |
PietroRico: Have you played football manager before? If you have, you'll know coaches don't always wait on offers but submit applications at different clubs where the position has become vacant or will become soon. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:29am On Nov 04, 2014 |
chrisley024: You don't think Jones and Smalling can play there too? Any way Danny Alves rumour...... * Wish I cud watch the match a second time, let me pay particular attention to Val's movement. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:44am On Nov 04, 2014 |
elampiro:can't reply you comprehensively. im on the move. I'll just say that: comparing a 3 month long reign to a nearly 30 year one and asking the former to provide a winning mentality does not apply here. Dude is new. He has to get a semblance of a working unit. For some reason he has used up over 40 different players in just 10 league games due to an array of circumstances. Fergie never had to do major overhauling overvthe years in terms of upgrading. in terms of personnel City and Chelsea had the players in terms of personnel to win the league in his last season in charge. When Jose won the CL in 04 tell us how many superstars he had in his squad at that point. its not always the side with the biggest number of stars that wins titles. Usually it's the ones who are hungrier and more motivated. correct me if im wrong. I tell you age has absolutely nothing to do with how well a side performs. Its how well you harness the talent at your disposal that counts and in that regard , Moyes failed woefully. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 11:46am On Nov 04, 2014 |
SIRcumalot:the draw specialist side? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 12:04pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
StarBoard: |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 12:06pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
Dadehmola:has rooney underperformed this season? Rvp was never a more qualified candidate for that captaincy |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:33pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
StarBoard: You brought up new angles to this discussion in your writing above. Should we expand this it will affect your work (you are on the move). So let's just leave it. * One area I need you to elaborate on your return. Agreed Moyes failed with Ferguson's squad. But the squad was intact when Gaal took over. So what rebuilding are you talking about now in your defence of Gaal? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 1:09pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
Odunharry: 3 weeks or 3 months? i don't even know where to start. smalling's stüpidity cost us the game. until that moment, we bossed city on their turf. we had more possession & blind was on top of their midfield. yaya toure was anonymous & we were breaking at will. it's difficult to judge LVG..... the football has improved without a doubt but he has been very unlucky with the injuries. no manager would get victories with the rotten luck he has had. i think we should just get rid of the sick notes & that includes jones, evans & smalling. they are too unreliable to haul us back to the promised land. the big teams always seem to have the same back four in nearly all the big games. with united, it's always the reverse. where was rafael? why weren't jones & evans fit. by the end of the game, we had 2 rookies(paddy & shaw), a midfielder & a winger in our back four. that's simply not good enough for a club of our size. sack all the defenders & buy fit ones next summer. even pep guardiola would be in relegation with this horrible curse of injury.... www.nairaland.com/attachments/1835812_image_jpeg9f360c5ab7736510df54c882e9dbf188 |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 1:30pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
StarBoard:The UCL finalist side. They still picked more away points than anybody except chelsea. And dropped only two points in all home games. 2012/2013 was definitely weaker, |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 1:48pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
Nihilist: how do you consistently spit this crap and not have your conscience prïck you? in what circumstance did moyes lose those games? in what circumstance is LVG losing this? united won the title by 11 points prior moyes arrival & he plunged the team to a 7th position. you keep hammering about LVG being 4 points worse off but that's an amateur view of it. how many points away are we from the 4th position this season & how many points away from the 4th position was moyes at this stage last season? moyes is a bastärd - the football was painful to watch.....we had no bearing for the entire season. LVG is infinitely better from what i have seen so far. it's not his fault that smalling lost his head or our defenders have refused to be fit all season. how would mourinho have done if all his first choice defenders are crocked and playing away to the champions of england with 10 men for 60 mins? with moyes, we lost 4-1 there last season with 11 men, first choice defenders & rooney in his preferred position. you can tweak the stats all you want but only a blind bartimeaus would not give LVG credits for the job he has done so far. we are 3-4 defenders away from becoming a world class club again & that's satisfying as far as i am concerned. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 2:08pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
coogar: And Ferguson lost 6-1 to City....at Old Trafford. So what is this job Van Gaal has done so far? You've spent 150million pounds and only have 16 league goals to show for it...Arsenal, City,Chelsea, Southampton, West Ham, and Everton have scored more. You've spent 150million yet you've conceded 14 goals already....and are yet to win on the road You've spent 150 million but you're 4 points worse off than you were last season... You've spent 150 million, but cant keep a cleansheet in 6 consecutive league games... And all of these with the majority of the team that won the league with 11 points in 2011 as you were always keen to point during the Moyes era I better go change my name to Bartimeus by deed poll 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 2:18pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
Nihilist: evans got a red card in that game as well...moyes lost 4-1 with 11 players on the pitch. vidic, rio, rooney, etc all played. so the problem wasn't a shortage of personnel, but the lack of tactical nous.
only an amateur speaks this way.... over 15 players left man utd on either loans, retirement or outright sales. even common sense should tell you those players had to be replaced.
irrelevant to the discourse....
irrelevant to the discourse.....
you really need to go change your name - you saw the injury list yourself - i posed you a question which you stylishly avoided cos you don't have a prayer. in the same circumstance, how would jose have fared if he had hazard playing as a right back, cahill & mikel as centre backs & azpiculeta on the left - and playing 10 men against city at the etihad? there's a reason the media can't go after van gaal - they know he has improved united massively - recovering us from the pits moyes plunged us to. as at the time moyes came to united, we were the champions. after 10 games, we were 8th on the table. van gaal met us in the 7th position.....if we are 9th now as a result of injuries & bizarre circumstance, then he's not done badly. 7th to 9th is better than 1st to 7th. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:21pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
elampiro:no the squad wasnt the same. Van Gaal bought Blind, Rojo, Di Maria, brought in Falcao on loan. Nani Kagawa Welbeck were sold/ loaned out, along with others whose contracts were not renewed.Evra left. He shook up the squad big time. up till the last minute of tge window in sugust we were still making changes to the squad. Fergie never undertook such a massive overhaul of the team as we knew it like we did this summer. Agree or not? ps feel free to expand the argument. I will reply when im stable. typing on the go is not convenient. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:26pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
coogar youve been sighted. appear with immediate effect or amadioha will settle this matter |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 2:28pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
If you spend 150 million on players and cant keep a clean sheet, win away from home, or even outscore West Ham....How is it Irrelevant to Discourse? If you spend 150 million and cant pick up points, how is it irrelvant to discourse? Now you say, Van Gaal is unlucky with Injuries....Yet when in the Moyes Era, you were saying this: coogar: Nigga go and sleep! 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 2:28pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
StarBoard: i already appeared.... we played well on sunday - i couldn't fault the performance. we lost to individual error. rojo had the measure of aguero & then he got crocked as well. with a bit more common sense from rooney & a bit more composure from marouane, we woulda gotten a draw with 10 men. i cannot complain.... Nihilist: because only amateurs discuss money that was spent and not the one that was gotten through player sales. only amateurs focus on players that came in, not the ones that left..... evra, rio, vidic, nani, chicharito, kagawa, giggs, zaha, welbeck, cleverley, büttner, etc all left the club. what's supposed to replace these bodies? grain of rice? how much do you think a club should spend to replace 11 players that include 6 world class players?
that's the long term effect of having a useless mediocre long term manager like moyes for 9 months. look at the injury list i posted earlier & see yourself that the injuries have been mostly recurring from the same set of players. RVP was perfect for 2.5 seasons before moyes arrived. since then, he's been in & out. you can say the same for jones, smalling & evans as well. moyes ruined the squad & you cannot expect a new manager to fix a destruction of 9 months in 3 months. it's much easier to destroy than to rebuild. you are indeed a blind bartimeaus if you cannot see this. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:34pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
StarBoard: You have agreed now that Gaal inherited a weak team. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 2:36pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
Captain Me-too's own is even more Hilarious, Speaking on Moyes he said: StarBoard: Man utd has gotten a solitary point out of 6 against 2 of the big boys thus far. Need I mention the losses to Swansea and MK Dons, and the draw at Burnley? The one about transfer targets is even more hilarious...especially seeing manyoo bounce from pillar to post in the trasnfer market this summer Does ryan Giggs have a coaching Badge or qualification? And didnt Van Gaal just publically call Smalling s tupid? Ahhh...The hypocrisy 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 2:39pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
PietroRico: There are games in which he shoulda been yanked off as early as the 60th min but LVG decided to keep him on for the full 90.... Oh I forgot - the captain will enjoy special privileges. Moyes was castigated for crimes lesser than this but Ofcourse, LVG's "reputation" will always be key.. PietroRico: So it's Rooney that is more qualified abi?? A player that twisted us by the balls twice. I'd rather have Smalling as captain!! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:42pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
Nihilist:captain numpty has been had and is looking for a cop-out. other than being a clown by default, your point so far has been . . .? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:43pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
Rojo's dad said God showed kindness on his family because his son will only miss two or three matches. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 2:44pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
StarBoard: he's just talking bollocks..... the moment anyone mentions how much united have spent this season, just walk away from such a debate & never go back. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 2:46pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
StarBoard: My point is that in addition to being a brain-dead follow follow, you are also a hypocrite. That post I quoted was of you brainlessly agreeing with an earlier post of Coogar's as usual Anyway, now that Van Gaal is guilty of every 'crime' you highlighted there, do you think heis good enough to carry the training balls at Carrington? 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 2:48pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
Nihilist: Do you think he is good enough? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 2:49pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
evra, rio, vidic, nani, chicharito, kagawa, giggs, zaha, welbeck, cleverley, büttner, etc all left the club. what's supposed to replace these bodies? grain of rice? how much do you think a club should spend to replace 11 players that include 6 world class players? Please point out the world class players in that list. While you're at it, point out the players in your list that were essential players last year. The same Rio and Vidic that you always about last year? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:50pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
coogar: |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 2:58pm On Nov 04, 2014 |
dopeJemi: Ask Starboard. Afterall, it's his criteria we're using |
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