Dadehmola:


The crux of the matter is that LVG doesn't seem to be getting any criticism, despite the fact that we are 4points adrift of where we were last season and most importantly, He seems to be committing the same "àrse-licking" and military training offences moyes was slated for last season

elampiro:

The media didn't allow him to settle. We are all human beings. Things affect us. The pressure was too much and he didn't even have a great name to fight back.
Unlike now, Gaal is not under pressure and even if that were to be the case, his 'goodwill' or reputation will do half of the fight for him.

incredibleone:
23 out of a possible 27!! Man u?? Dnt even say it,a mid table team is irrelevant

lekkie073:
pls face ur warrant abeg.....

PietroRico:


I'm trying really hard in vain to know why this issue is beingg raised now?

Are u guys just trying to be objective, for the sake of it?
Do u miss moyes and want him back?
Do u want the media to give LVG the 'unfair moyes treatment' too?

What's the motive for all the moyes hullabaloo?

lekkie073:
manutd 13 league titles out of a possible 22!! don't even go there....Chelsea is a newcomer when it comes to lifting trophies...

Dadehmola:


The crux of the matter is that LVG doesn't seem to be getting any criticism, despite the fact that we are 4points adrift of where we were last season and most importantly, He seems to be committing the same "àrse-licking" and military training offences moyes was slated for last season

PietroRico:


I'm trying really hard in vain to know why this issue is beingg raised now?

Are u guys just trying to be objective, for the sake of it?
Do u miss moyes and want him back?
Do u want the media to give LVG the 'unfair moyes treatment' too?

What's the motive for all the moyes hullabaloo?

elampiro:




Take ur vex go Old Trafford. I be fan like you.

elampiro:


* There will always be throwbacks.

* The injuries necessitated the comparison. Mostly as the bulk of the injuries are from trainings.

dopeJemi:


Hahahahahahahaha na u be OSUA student, wetin be OSUA sef?

PietroRico:
its uncalled for jare.
There are a million and one things moyes did wrong
He was never the man for the job.
He lacked the charisma and pedigree required for a job of this magnitude.

Don't even allow me get started on his bizarre tactics and lack of man management.
He lost his team
He lost even his back room staff



Abi na media make am instruct players to cross ball a million times when we didn't have an attacking trio of zigic, koller and crouch?

Moyes is a mistake that never should have happened in the first place.

Dadehmola:


I am more particular about the double standards that's so obvious and glaring. Yes, moyes was clueless and out of depths and I would definitely choose LVG over him anytime anyday.The injury and "blending" issues that are easy to pin point as the root cause of our problems this season but heck - we've had some totally unacceptable results so far and i believe the manager should take full responsibility

StarBoard:

wonder why people ignore the obvious facts.
wa gbayi, brother.

PietroRico:
the thing dey tire me.

codedguy1:
Can we even compare Moyes' post match comments with LvG?

Moyes was a disaster!

PietroRico:
its uncalled for jare.
There are a million and one things moyes did wrong
He was never the man for the job.
He lacked the charisma and pedigree required for a job of this magnitude.

Don't even allow me get started on his bizarre tactics and lack of man management.
He lost his team
He lost even his back room staff



Abi na media make am instruct players to cross ball a million times when we didn't have an attacking trio of zigic, koller and crouch?

Moyes is a mistake that never should have happened in the first place.

elampiro:


We see things differently. I think Moyes only looked to be a mistake from hindsight.

In fairness to Moyes, our team was already aged before he took over. Even though we won the league easily before he arrived, our play had been deteriorating since 2011. We were hardly dominating games and only winning slim in 2012/13.

I don't agree that Gaal is struggling because the confidence of the players has been rocked. He was supposed to turn it around. We saw that when AVB was sacked at Tottenham. But sometimes, you can only pretend to dress a decay with some false initial impression, after some time the decay return. This is what happened at Tottenham, and our preseason. Even Martinez that was being used to benchmark Moyes, is struggling.

StarBoard:

I think the scenarios are different.

Moyes inherited a team that won the league by a mile. He went ahead to add Fellaini and Mata later, while his only loss was Scholes who retired.
van Gaal has had to assemble a new side by patching new recruits with remnants of the former side whose confidence has taken a battering.

StarBoard:

My own views.
I also do not believe the same media that "ganged up" (according to some here) against Moyes was canvassing for him to rip up the squad that Fergie left on the basis of age; which is what van Gaal eventually did.

Moyes was simply incompetent and not fit for the job in most respects. He didn't even have the personality to establish a presence in the dressing room.
van Gaal has had a poor start but his track record in the past is working in his favour.

StarBoard:

Ondo State University, Akungba.

StarBoard:

How anyone is making a case for Moyes is beyond preposterous.

Last year we went into the Manchester derby and lost like lambs being led to the slaughter even with the full complement of 11 men.
If Rooney didn't score from a free kick we would have been totally outclassed.
Last year in the derby Aguero almost had a hat trick.
A year later, we gave them a scare and lost by a goal that came after a red card and an injury to both our center backs.

On the basis of the Manchester derby there is improvement from where Moyes left us

Dadehmola:


Nobody is disputing any of these facts. Moyes was heavily criticised for licking the àrse of a rooney that is generally believed to be useless and worthless, only for the "strict and no-nonsense" LVG to make the same player his captain and also point out that the captain must always play, irrespective of his shitty form.

I have criticized LvG for making a mercenary captain.
Believe me I am not the only one who feels that way.
When Rooney got himself stupidly sent off, he didn't even lash him like he is slaughtering Smalling.

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Moyes' so-called military graded training regimes was also seen as the reason behind persistent injuries to certain players. Under LVG, we are witnessing arguably the worst injury crises in the club's history, despite the fact that we are already out of the league cup and Ofcourse - no European commitments which means we are playing lesser games.

Dadehmola:


Exactly...
That record is what's masking some tactical and selection gaffes moyes woulda been crucified for, assuming he's still in charge of the team.
In a nutshell, It isn't as if I am canvassing for the return of moyes, or that I would choose moyes over LVG (when I no dey craze ), but Abeg, let's stop blaming our woes entirely on injuries and "blending time". LVG must start taking responsibility for some of our misfortunes

PietroRico:
so in essence, you want the media to give LVG the moyes treatment?

StarBoard:


Really?
An aging team won the league by 11 points.

I hope you don't believe what you just wrote.

StarBoard:


Abeg anyone who defends that failure deserves to get pissed in the face.

elampiro:


We see things differently. I think Moyes only looked to be a mistake from hindsight.

In fairness to Moyes, our team was already aged before he took over. Even though we won the league easily before he arrived, our play had been deteriorating since 2011. We were hardly dominating games and only winning slim in 2012/13.

I don't agree that Gaal is struggling because the confidence of the players has been rocked. He was supposed to turn it around. We saw that when AVB was sacked at Tottenham. But sometimes, you can only pretend to dress a decay with some false initial impression, after some time the decay return. This is what happened at Tottenham, and our preseason. Even Martinez that was being used to benchmark Moyes, is struggling.

incredibleone:
P what turnaround are u talking about pls.....barca and bayern were d best in their country,he was sacked with both teams,netherlands They played d WC final in 2010 pls....he turned Ajax around and that's just about it

PietroRico:
its uncalled for jare.
There are a million and one things moyes did wrong
He was never the man for the job.
He lacked the charisma and pedigree required for a job of this magnitude.

Don't even allow me get started on his bizarre tactics and lack of man management.
He lost his team
He lost even his back room staff



Abi na media make am instruct players to cross ball a million times when we didn't have an attacking trio of zigic, koller and crouch?

Moyes is a mistake that never should have happened in the first place.

elampiro:


Yes, we were already complaining about many of the players. As far back as 2010 we had identified our midfield weakness.

Dadehmola:


I want the media to point out the same mistakes moyes was criticized for - some of which LVG seems to be making..