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Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by whitecat2: 3:17am On Dec 28, 2014
grin lol! Excused me! Are you saying that just because your wife had dated other person before you or you want her to have the time of her life, you will ask for help from stronger men in the neighborhood to help you? Hey! If it can't be done in bed, then it can't be done anywhere else. Politics is life, we can't contract it out, empires have fallen over it. Politics after family, followed by money.
Remarkable:
I do agree with your postulations, but want to expatiate further on a few points... the few states that have been progressive in being "untribal" includes states of the former eastern regionEnugu and Abia, I am sure of; funny enough these two states have also had a history of discrimination as well.

So isn't the bottom line really that it takes a good administrator or political administration to draw in a diverse labor force (especially when its citizens are diverse/has a major presence).

You feel me, dawg?
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by whitecat2: 3:21am On Dec 28, 2014
You are in fantasyland, enjoy!
Justcash:


Like I said, you have the right to think of it the way you want. I am proudly NIGERIAN and IGBO. I believe that soon, Lagos State will lead the way in ensuring true integration in Nigeria. A non-Yoruba, may or may not be IGBO, will lead Lagos soon.

No matter how much you try, you cannot stop that from happening. It is a sign of an evolving metropolitan society.

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Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by Remarkable: 3:24am On Dec 28, 2014
Where are you from? born & raised?

Study?

Forgive my asking, but its not always that one scores 2 hits with me e, ack to back lol...

Let me ask you this though:

Which states will you say are highly multi-ethnic? discounting the land owners of course... lets also leave Lagos and Abuja out of it... so top five will e...?
LogicPower:


Although, as you rightly pointed out, Lagos is unique in its multi-cultural nature, yet we should NOT expect the state ALONE to do away with the ethon-religious considerations which you said impede the unity and progress of Nigeria, while other states maintain THESE SAME ethno-religious considerations in dealing with the non-indigenes in their respective states. It does NOT make sense!.
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by Justcash(m): 3:28am On Dec 28, 2014
whitecat2:
You are in fantasyland, enjoy!

I'm living it.

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Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by Remarkable: 3:42am On Dec 28, 2014
The same lies told over and over and over again.... an outsider reading will think there are a group of Yorubas at the entrance of Lagos with a blanket, pillow, house key and car keys, with a bottle of oil, welcoming each person in and guaranteeing his safety with a contract that says such outsider will be protected all the time, everywhere in Lagos ...

By round of applause, a manner of speaking for sure - how many migrants to Lagos were welcomed by a Yorua and guaranteed safety while in Lagos, at the point of entry into Lagos? Please holla, we will want to verify this once and for all...

(or lay this age-old like to rest in this passing 2014...)

Nonsense

Nigeria is made of different ethnic groups!!

Lagos is YORUBALAND!!!!

That ethnic homogeneity you talk about is only possible because YORUBAS are welcoming and give your iboe people a chance to escape poverty .
As always, you iboes will take people for fools and have declared Lagos as no man's land which is bullshiiite.

Iboes are immigrants in Lagos and all Yorubaland. U are here because we welcome u and let u live peacefully and have a life you would not have in your village

We are progressive and will vote for anyone but that is our choice and not at your request.

Can I ask you? What opportunities do non-ibos have in your state?

U can not expect to have what you can never ever give others- hypocrites!!!



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Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by Remarkable: 3:48am On Dec 28, 2014
How many mouths do they have? That goes to show they are learning quickly from you guys (assuming you are Yoruba)... so we see, Igbos are integrating!
whitecat2:
Didn't ibos say they are running things in Lagos? How many mouths do these people have One minute "we are running things" and the next minute "we are marginalized". which is it ibos?
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by red101(f): 4:03am On Dec 28, 2014

“Lagos State Government continues to fund Eyo Festival but leaves the Igbo day Festival or New Yam festival to South-East governors to fund. Should Ndigbo then pay their dues to South-East Sates governments?”

this is completely ridiculous. Eyo festival is an indigenous Lagos celebration. yorubas from other states don't even celebrate it.
should lagos now start funding osun festival too? this reeks of entitlement.

to be honest, a lot of those yoruba politicians probably bought their posts with money or influence. there are enough rich igbos in lagos to be able to socialize and buy influence with politicians with their cash too. posts aren't dashed to people in Nigeria.
they don't even understand what politics is all about.

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Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by blacko(m): 4:06am On Dec 28, 2014
Northern treatment tinz on point (OPC) cool.This people don chop liver ni sha,for god sake is it whenwe start killing u people that u will know that u are immigrants and u have no right to any political or royal post

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Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by red101(f): 4:09am On Dec 28, 2014
hmm..
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by PenSniper: 4:16am On Dec 28, 2014
Justcash:
Lagos is ripe for advanced political reasoning and multi-ethnic governance. Lagos state is miles ahead of other states in Nigeria. Many Nigerians from other ethnic groups are more Lagosian than their original ethnic group. The state should lead the way in showing other states the beauty of multi-ethnic governance in Nigeria.

All these ethno-religious considerations impede the unity and progress of Nigeria. The minds of the new generation is corrupted by such considerations. In Lagos, kids are born together and mix up with eachother in playgrounds, school, churches and mosques without caring about ethnicity. It is only the grounded TRIBALISTIC social system that separates them and causes strife, suspicion and ethnic hatred as soon as they evolve into adulthood.

If we are indeed NIGERIANS, we should be seen as being Nigerian first before being Yoruba, Igbo, Hausa, Efik, Urhobo, Tiv etc. Lagos, as a cosmopolitan city, must lead the way.

Take your sermon to the SE first, your reasoning is against logic.

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Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by PenSniper: 4:18am On Dec 28, 2014
oduastates:


Go and practice that in your own state.
Yorubaland will never be used for "one Nigeria" experiment.

Period

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Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by PenSniper: 4:21am On Dec 28, 2014
Justcash:


What I don't understand is how people like you want One Nigeria, but is so scared of practicing One Nigeria. What then was the civil war fought for?

I can see that your mates are quick to like your comment. You guys should be sure of what you want. If you want Lagos for yourselves, why did you waste men and resources trying to stop the emergence of Biafra? Hummmm?

Go and ask Ifeajuna, Ironsi, Ojukwu and Zik of eastern region. They will tell you why.

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Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by PenSniper: 4:29am On Dec 28, 2014
AJINATU:
Now this is getting seriously, dangerously and annoyingly out of hand ... Are the ibos the only tribe present in Lagos out of the more than 250 ethnic groups in Nigeria?

Whom the gods want to destroy they first make mad. Left for me, i pray for the opportunity to revenge the murder of Victor Banjo by the Ibo. Let them keep digging for their waterloo. My research shows pockets of their concentration which enhances our mission. Nobody needs tell them to stop their annoying posturing because they are dealing with cowards.

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Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by knowledgeable: 4:35am On Dec 28, 2014
oduastates:



Who wants one Nigeria? That one Nigeria mentality belongs to Obasanjo's generation. I will never delude myself as to the workability of a country called Nigeria.
That is why it is not working.
Hausa do not want Jonathan
Yorubas do not want Jonathan
Igbo want Jonathan

Yorubas did not want Obasanjo
Igbo wanted Obasanjo
Hausa wanted Obasanjo

A union of advanced countries (European union)with high levels of literacy, technology and wealth cannot make their union work. Not to talk of a union of disparate tribes,who are barely out of the prehistoric age and without affinity for one another.


The Spirit of Biafra will eternally be a dark cloud on Yoruba history and future for a thousand yrs or more for betraying a closely similar African Tribe in progress in a fast changing globalized world were the very survival of the Yoruba race herself critical depend on sub regional integration of which this dynamic neighbor is part of.
Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by PenSniper: 4:41am On Dec 28, 2014
Justcash:


Ewwww, you sound so pained and frustrated. Tone down your insults, you can really make your point without using abusive words.

Are you suggesting that the aim of IGBOS to partake in the governance of Lagos state is wrong? Why? Are Igbos not Nigerians? How do you know that you will not be given an opportunity to partake in politics in South Eastern states? Have you tried?

I think we should be clear about what we want as Nigerians. A United Nigeria means that NIGERIANS must be free to live and partake in the Nigerian project from any state they choose. Lagos state, by virtue of history, happens to be a good example of Nigerianness. If it is only Yorubas that must lead in Lagos state, which is not befitting for a cosmopolitan NIGERIAN city, then we must start to question what being a Nigerian means?

You need to cool down. You sound hypertensive.

Why not disabuse your mind about this Nigerian project so that you can reason better ? How long will it take you to get it into your skull that the Yoruba is not desperate for a united or one Nigeria, never mind the likes of the illegitimate Obasanjo who is obsessed with that project simply because he is aware of his non-relevance amongst the Yoruba who see and treat him like an outcast that he is.

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Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by PenSniper: 4:43am On Dec 28, 2014
Justcash:


In essence, you are saying that we are better off divided?

Resounding yes.

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Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by PenSniper: 4:46am On Dec 28, 2014
Collynzo419:


Nonsense

Nigeria is made of different ethnic groups!!

Lagos is YORUBALAND!!!!

That ethnic homogeneity you talk about is only possible because YORUBAS are welcoming and give your iboe people a chance to escape poverty .
As always, you iboes will take people for fools and have declared Lagos as no man's land which is bullshiiite.

Iboes are immigrants in Lagos and all Yorubaland. U are here because we welcome u and let u live peacefully and have a life you would not have in your village

We are progressive and will vote for anyone but that is our choice and not at your request.

Can I ask you? What opportunities do non-ibos have in your state?

U can not expect to have what you can never ever give others- hypocrites!!!




Ayo ni tire yio ma a je.

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Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by seanet02: 4:49am On Dec 28, 2014
A time is coming.
The time is coming.
Just be patient.
They will learn in a very HARD, BITTER AND SAD WAY.
Desola:
Lagos is trying too hard to be London but the bastards that run the state should know that, that shit cannot and will not work in Yorubaland! Nigeria is a geographical expression. I as aYoruba have nothing, absolutely nothing in common with the IBO and for that reason cannot share my identity with them bar the forced nationality. The sovereignty of my homeland is non-negotiable and those in Alausa better etch that into their brains. Eni ti o ni iru eni, ko le mo Iyi eni. If any more position is conceded to these ingrates from the east then épé idle ni mo ma ran is won ni Alausa!

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Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by Nobody: 5:04am On Dec 28, 2014
@ Justcash, I like the sublime and ideal idea of erasing the tribes when it comes to governance in Nigerian states but I think we are still far from it. It will surely happen with time especially if we don't revert back to regional government system.

The major question I will like to ask is are the "immigrant" tribes even ready for such roles, we seem to be entrenched in our tribal identity that we can't even let go to get something better. You can't request/demand to be part of a system that you hardly see yourself as, you have to blend in totally first. The Ibos will have to integrate into the system seamlessly before they can achieve that and its best they don't even chase it as Ndigbo because that ironically means they are not integrated, they have to chase it as Lagosian with "Non-Yoruba" descent.

Even in the US, you will not hear Nigerians or Hispanics fighting for political posts as Nigerians or Hispanics, rather they will do that as Americans with African descent. That's the only way to show you are part of the system. For the mere fact that you pay tax somewhere (you earn your livelihood)does not make you an indigene, you become an indigene when you join the people and when you join the people.....you don't have to ask for anything because you are part of it automatically.

Ndigbo will have another opportunity to prove to Lagosians that they are part of the system during the next censor, if they are willing to stay behind and be counted as Lagosians or if they will go back to their root.

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Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by aresa: 5:13am On Dec 28, 2014
Justcash:


That was in the 1960s. Since then, we have fought a civil war, gone through many coup de'tats, and had several ethnic based crisis. IF WE WERE DESTINED TO DIVIDE, WE WOULD HAVE DIVIDED. In 2014, we are still together. It is time to start taking integration seriously. History is replete with the direction that the belief of the leader in the video has taken us to.


Who are you deceiving with that BS? Nigeria came out of independence divided and years after the same independence you let us all know that Nigeria was a divided country when you slaughtered military and political leaders from the other 2 major region and to add salt to injury, the next ibo head of state who was supposed to do to the killer and murderers what they do to such people globally in form of punishment, the ibo head of state did not even slap his own killers and murderers on the wrist hence the mass slaughter of ibo people up north.

You people divided Nigeria since day one. When was the last time you joined the rest of the country to demonstrate or agitate for anything? Where were you when the rest of Nigeria was demonstrating and risking their lives to make sure GEJ gets his constitutional dues to be the president of Nigeria?

Decades after the war, they keep dividing with their anger and bitterness against the other 2 major regions. Even today, your local and National leaders openly spew hatred and tribal rants against the rest of the country, you openly spew derogatory, ethnic and religious bigotry rubbish against the other regions and you don't believe in anything or care to partake in anything concerning the other regions, you won't even align with any political party from the other regions and even if at your own detriment, you don't give a damn as long as you deny that 2 other regions the upper hand.

Your votes for GEJ was 100%, even higher than GEJ's own SS people. You endlessly claim you own other people and their land.

The fact is, you people don't give a shitttt about ONE NIGERIA and you care less about the rest of the country, the only time you fool people with that ONE NIGERIAN nonsense is when you want something or when you're trying to con people just to get your selfish and self centered ways like you are doing in Lagos now.


One Nigerian my ASSSSSSSS...

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Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by knowledgeable: 5:54am On Dec 28, 2014
AJINATU:
Now this is getting seriously, dangerously and annoyingly out of hand ... Are the ibos the only tribe present in Lagos out of the more than 250 ethnic groups in Nigeria?

By rejecting proportional representative within a democracy in lagos , the Nigeria project has failed again. This might even be a tacit acceptance of the idea of Biafra by the yorubas this time around. As yorubas and hausas gradually reject the Igbos, AU will continue to recognize Biafra. It will not be out of place to say that the yorubas have wakened up to the realization that the Nigerian project will not sustain their civilization. They are pursuing two prong approach to achieving this. (1), setting Hausa/Fulani up on a violent collision curse with the Igbos if Buhari loses in the up coming presidential election by blinded support to Buhari as a result of a blinded mentality of born to rule of the Hausa/Fulani oligarchs. (2), by hedging and hoping that Buhari's winning will provide them with a second fiddle and in ample position to transform their region into an African and global financial center (ref. Echo Atlantic). In a short term, the calculations seems possible but unforeseen forces like the drop in oil prices and the forces of regionalism it self will expose the shallowness of what I call "the Yoruba logic". Hausa/Fulani will outsmart them too by claiming that their brave and violent antecedence brought victory to them and not the yorubas cowardly disposition.

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Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by huptin(m): 5:59am On Dec 28, 2014
Justcash:


Point of correction. Lagos State is a Nigerian land that is situated in the south west of Nigeria. The south west is mostly made up of Nigerians from the Yoruba ethnic group, with the NIGERIANS from other ethnic groups making up a minority of the population in the region. You can define other NIGERIAN regions like that.

As a Nigerian, I own a land when I buy it in any part of Nigeria. The land, which I have paid for, collected a pcertificate of ownership (COE) for and built properties on, is owned by me even though they are in Lagos sta
te and I am IGBO. I own the land. In general, Lagos state is owned by NIGERIANS, not just Yorubas. I know enlightened Yorubas that own lands and properties in the South East. It is theirs and can never be retrieved. That, is ONE NIGERIA.Fortunately, Lagos State government understands theconcept of one Nigeria. FYI, I'll vote in Lagos State. I can contest for positions in Lagos state. The question of whether I'll win or not is another issue. However, Lagos state, just like other states in Nigeria, is owned by Nigerians not Yorubas as you implied. We have since gone past the era of ethnic
based ownership of land.

There is no such thing as Certificate of Ownership, you can only get a Crrtificate of Occupancy which elapses after 99 years of occupying a land. So technically you do not own a land by purchasing it, you are only occupying it so says Nigeria's constituition.

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Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by aresa: 6:12am On Dec 28, 2014
knowledgeable:


By rejecting proportional representative within a democracy in lagos , the Nigeria project has failed again. This might even be a tacit acceptance of the idea of Biafra by the yorubas this time around. As yorubas and hausas gradually reject the Igbos, AU will continue to recognize Biafra. It will not be out of place to say that the yorubas have wakened up to the realization that the Nigerian project will not sustain their civilization. They are pursuing two prong approach to achieving this. (1), setting Hausa/Fulani up on a violent collision curse with the Igbos if Buhari loses in the up coming presidential election by blinded support to Buhari as a result of a blinded mentality of born to rule of the Hausa/Fulani oligarchs. (2), by hedging and hoping that Buhari's winning will provide them with a second fiddle and in ample position to transform their region into an African and global financial center (ref. Echo Atlantic). In a short term, the calculations seems possible but unforeseen forces like the drop in oil prices and the forces of regionalism it self will expose the shallowness of what I call "the Yoruba logic". Hausa/Fulani will outsmart them too by claiming that their brave and violent antecedence brought victory to them and not the yorubas cowardly disposition.



Everything is ok when you trash, insult, denigrate and deny other people the same thing you cry over all over the place, but it fails all of a sudden when you don't get your selfish ways...


You people need to take a seat somewhere with that rubbish..

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Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by aresa: 6:14am On Dec 28, 2014
huptin:


There is no such thing as Certificate of Ownership, you can only get a Crrtificate of Occupancy which elapses after 99 years of occupying a land. So technically you do not own a land by purchasing it, you are only occupying it so says Nigeria's constituition.


They can even revoke your COC anytime sef'''

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Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by Unemadu: 6:28am On Dec 28, 2014
oduastates:


Go and practice that in your own state.
Yorubaland will never be used for "one Nigeria" experiment.

Lagos state still does not want to be included in the western region. Are u still gonna blame Zik?

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Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by PentiumPro(f): 6:58am On Dec 28, 2014
Unemadu:


Lagos state still does not want to be included in the western region. Are u still gonna blame Zik?

Fool, Lagos dey Eastern region ko?

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Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by shiffynaani(m): 7:09am On Dec 28, 2014
Justcash:


Ewwww, you sound so pained and frustrated. Tone down your insults, you can really make your point without using abusive words.

Are you suggesting that the aim of IGBOS to partake in the governance of Lagos state is wrong? Why? Are Igbos not Nigerians? How do you know that you will not be given an opportunity to partake in politics in South Eastern states? Have you tried?

I think we should be clear about what we want as Nigerians. A United Nigeria means that NIGERIANS must be free to live and partake in the Nigerian project from any state they choose. Lagos state, by virtue of history, happens to be a good example of Nigerianness. If it is only Yorubas that must lead in Lagos state, which is not befitting for a cosmopolitan NIGERIAN city, then we must start to question what being a Nigerian means?

You need to cool down. You sound hypertensive.
ARE IGBOS NOT NIGERIANS Yes,they are truly are but there is a YORUBA adage that says ''Oko ki'se ti baba at'omo koma laalaa'' which means that there must be a line that gisset father's farmland from the son's own although they both own it.So IGBOs agitating for political relevance in Lagos is simply out of PACE! Are THEY the only tribe in LAG. I think this seriously getting out of hand

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Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by StunningCEO: 7:10am On Dec 28, 2014
All these provocation by iboes against everybody is becoming unreal and even the normally accommodating Yorubas on the streets are beginning to whisper loudly about this attitude. Please my fellow brothers, stop asking for trouble. It is getting nearer than you think. The nthern disdain for iboes is soon goin to be child's play compared to what is coming. What is wrong with you Pipul? My brothers? What? Please let us be kiaful o.

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Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by shiffynaani(m): 7:30am On Dec 28, 2014
Justcash:


Oh yeah? Lmao! Well, I'm living and loving my Nigerianness. I don't know what you mean by being MOVERS AND SHAKERS. All I want is my right, as a Nigerian, to live anywhere I wish without being trampled upon. I believe every NIGERIAN deserve that right irrespective of their tribe and history.

Yeah, I have one vote, and I'll use it to express my preference. Even though we all love to win, expressing our preferences is more important than winning.

I had no intention of making you excited.
what's is the use of expressing preferences if they do not translate to something tangible:>

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Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by Justcash(m): 7:36am On Dec 28, 2014
aresa:

They can even revoke your COC anytime sef'''
huptin:


There is no such thing as Certificate of Ownership, you can only get a Crrtificate of Occupancy which elapses after 99 years of occupying a land. So technically you do not own a land by purchasing it, you are only occupying it so says Nigeria's constituition.

According to the constitution, the state holds and administers rights over land use for "All NIGERIANS".

As long as I keep paying the required fees as stipulated by the state government for the stipulated time frame, I own the land. It is mine until the day that I cannot lay claim of it.

Moreover, the C OF O is applicable to every NIGERIAN irrespective of ethnicity and religion. In essence, even Yorubas are subject to the same law. The land is not owned by the Yorubas as purported by many here, but by the government. A government is not an ethnic or religious institution. In this case, there is no special privilege accorded to the Yorubas.

Finally, the state cannot just wake up one day and start seizing lands bought legitimately because they feel worried about a certain ethnic group. They will be sued and Justice will prevail.

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Re: Igbo Group In Lagos Writes Fashola, Complains About Marginalisation by Justcash(m): 7:51am On Dec 28, 2014
shiffynaani:
what's is the use of expressing preferences if they do not translate to something tangible:>

Satisfaction does not necessarily come from the attainment of outcomes. It is also generated from the attainment of objectives. For example, If my objective is to beat my personal record in a hundred meters race, then I don't necessarily have to win the race in order to feel satisfied.

My objective is to vote for some aspirants. I will attain satisfaction from simply contributing my quota towards their aspirations irrespective of outcome.

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