idumuose:

Anonimi my brother,after the e-war in politics section,this is where i come to chill quietly.

Some folks don't know i am involved in agric produce too.Tomato business is very profitable but you will also have to deal with the sellers(dilali) insincerity.

this are my workers packaging tomatoes for onward movement to Enugu or portharcourt.

My brother the transportation no easy oo.Once my workers are back,they complain of extortion from soldiers.In crossing Benue state alone,you will have to encounter more than 50 roadblocks mounted by soldiers.You know what that one means.
Enough said.

Well done o jare.
Make I hail you also with three Gbosas too joor.

One thing about most early supporters of Jonathan are those seriously interested in creating VALUE and earning their living in a meaningful way unlike those following the pensioner and his Thief'nuibu CABAL who are generally waiting for salary (not work oh) or direct dash dash like what the old soldier foooolishly promised them- N5,000 each for 25 million unemployed people i.e. N1.5 trillion, which is 1/3rd of our 2014 budget

eleojo23:

Lol. Engaging in e-fights I guess. I hope more people will realise this and stop wasting their time on unnecessary arguments. Goodluck in your new pursuit.

I hope you will however agree that it is necessary to continue sharing relevant information and discussing such in the push to prevent our country from falling back into the hands of blood-sucking CABALS be they in Bourdillon Road or Daura

OP, I agree with you on some of the point raised but you are leaving out pest and diseases. one of the major reasons why tomato doesn't do well is because of bacteria wilt. This can be controlled by greenhouse farming to a large extent. I learnt there are some green houses in owode in Ogun state, i have also seen one in Ikorodu installed by Dizengoff. Attached are some pictures, Kenya is seriously into this type of farming and they now construct greenhouses locally because of high cost.

panzaar:
Creating a network of small markets begins with registration of an association or cooperative of farmers outlets with emphasis on quality control, standardisation of farm produce, with facilities such as mobile cold rooms. This market must be fully controlled by farmers or their representatives. Anyone who wants to join must register with the association and adhere strictly with the rules of the association.

I am working on acquiring mobile cold rooms for the preservation of perishable food items. This will help such markets in guaranteeing availability of a variety of food items throughout the year.


Jethro, I believe we can call for expression of interest of young agribusiness men and women
sometime in the year.

My dear young and able comrades, we can do this.

If we can think it, we can do it.

Must pple join association?
Is it compulsory? That is why u will now inflate the price in the market and blame government for it meeetcheeewww

olaide721:

Must pple join association?
Is it compulsory? That is why u will now inflate the price in the market and blame government for it meeetcheeewww

This whole association thing just creates another rival cabal doing the same thing you wish to fight in the other cabal.

jethro2:
I ventured into tomatoes production by mistake but I have never regrets it. Infact I keep praying for the person that introduce me to the system. What mistake you wondered.
A friend got an irrigation land from a government agency in Saki area. She told me from an hectare of tomato you can make N10,000,000 in less than 5months.
Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!
That kind money?
Are you sure? I kept repeating and she said yes.
So i delve into it!!!!!!!

jethro2:
I ventured into tomatoes production by mistake but I have never regrets it. Infact I keep praying for the person that introduce me to the system. What mistake you wondered.
A friend got an irrigation land from a government agency in Saki area. She told me from an hectare of tomato you can make N10,000,000 in less than 5months.
Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!
That kind money?
Are you sure? I kept repeating and she said yes.
So i delve into it!!!!!!!

jethro2:
I ventured into tomatoes production by mistake but I have never regrets it. Infact I keep praying for the person that introduce me to the system. What mistake you wondered.
A friend got an irrigation land from a government agency in Saki area. She told me from an hectare of tomato you can make N10,000,000 in less than 5months.
Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!
That kind money?
Are you sure? I kept repeating and she said yes.
So i delve into it!!!!!!!

pls i wil like u to catch me 4 a biginer like wu has no land but has started to practice in a smal garden. Wat is ur advise if i want to venture in it

anonimi:


How does the cooperative/farmer group start if not with a "single farmer"

Can a tree make a forest?

how do u treat soil dt is not suitable?

interesting.

please JETHRO continue with the education

I am in for this. I planned to start farming this year. I am starting with 5 hectares of land first....

It will be ideal to study the modus operanda of the many small size markets especially on the outskirts of Lagos who are totally independent of the mechanisms and forces of demand and supply @ Mile 12 market and then you add value through standardised preservation and packaging right from the farm house or shed in an a wholly hygienic environment.

I am motivated with this story. I think Jos with be a good place for such farming if done in a large quantity and the market in Abuja will be lucrative.

Don't forget there are loses when produce are not well harvested and since its a perishable farm produce; how do you deal with the lost margin?.

anonimi:



Dynamic agripreneurs need to liaise with supermarkets to establish quality grades & packaging standards to supply them at competitive prices. Ditto for hotels, eateries, bukas etc.

Let us exercise our brains creatively to add value and earn better.

Thats the point. Imagining the quantities of vegetables daily import into Nigeria? You will marvelled

I am posting because someone requested. The first 3 pictures are nursery at different stages while the fourth is a tomato plant

Preparing for market

Some other varieties. at harvest and on the field

Tomatoes with another set of nursery

Current project.

Stancollins:
@ Jethro... plz can you feed us with some pixx... I m so interested... thanks

I just did. Will be posting more on the current farm tomorrow.

idumuose:
Another issue you have to deal with is unionism.Virtually all tomato market has a union.If you don't join their union,they would seize your tomatoes when you bring them.

The disadvantage of joining the union is that they determine how many number of baskets you convey to their market.

There is no way you can supply to the market without an inner circle connection. They have their own percentage cut

slimfit1:
Put it in a can and export it jare lagos ko kano ni. Most of it ends up in the bin anyway.

Exportation of fresh fruits and vegetables is another issue entirely. You must be weighty(lol)

idumuose:

Anonimi my brother,after the e-war in politics section,this is where i come to chill quietly.

Some folks don't know i am involved in agric produce too.Tomato business is very profitable but you will also have to deal with the sellers(dilali) insincerity.

this are my workers packaging tomatoes for onward movement to Enugu or portharcourt.

My brother the transportation no easy oo.Once my workers are back,they complain of extortion from soldiers.In crossing Benue state alone,you will have to encounter more than 50 roadblocks mounted by soldiers.You know what that one means.
Enough said.

Uniform men in the south west scramble for permanent night duty.
We have more police at night thqn during the day. The shameful part is they stay not 1m apart from each other at the entrance of the town. At times they work with touts.
Its not an easy thing

Soloxam:
Easy said than done, how can a single. Farmer supply the eatery throughout the year? Except for a cooperative/farmer group that can be achieve.

Ride on my sister.........

3 Gbosas for you sir. Only groups farmers can solve the problem.

No. I am not lying.
Why would I in the first place?
I am not selling e book, I dont do farm set up nor am i advertising product. So please give me a cogent reason why I should deceive people.
Rather I have been pointing out the difficulties and challenges involved. No where in my write up did I say i made N100 not to mention millions.
Not everyone on social media is out to scam people.And not all of us take to been insulted because you are behind a screen.
There are a lot of factors that could affect your yield.
Whats the brand name of the seed?
Did you understudy any farmer or do you have any prior practical knowledge?
Please get your fact right
I can categorically states that 30 tonnes yield has been gotten from an hectare in Nigeria both in the southern part and the northern part.

toyoutoyou:
U are the one saying the truth.The other guy is just trying to toast the naïve once into vegetable farming that requires much capital resource in term of irrigation supply.Based on all the earlier calculation and market competition,all ur profit from ur tomato produce might just bring 150,000 to 200,000 per hectare if u invest let's say 40,000 to 50,000Naira on tomato farming.U will need up to 10hectarees of land bbefore u can even make up to #200,000*10nd the total amount of money to establish such hectares of land is about 400,000-800,000Naira.SO do ur calculation very well before anyone lures u into somethg he is not well grounded in its knowing. What we do in our organization is strictly on vegetable farming and I've been working on tomato for the past 3years.There is money in vegetable production but not as much as the sweet-mouthed guy is trying to make u believe.U will need to practice a large scale farming before u can even make up to 2-3million Naira as ur possible return.If it's that easy,the whole Nigerians would have turned to millionaires.Thank u.

No one is disputing that so what are you betting? Please go over that post again. "I said Dangote tomato processing plant said they have seed that can yield 100 tonnes per hectare" It was written in the paper of which day or month i cant remember.
I am sure google could help with that
Please lets try to read in between lines.

jeffmyson:


I can even place a bet that no "Open Field" farmed tomatoes can ever yield 100 ton / Hectare, it is absolutely impossible for now. You can only achieve those levels of yield in a green house operation. The highest you can achieve based on todays data is 40 tons maximum ( that is if you try well well).

My father always told me "You can't take some one where you have never been to". I always encourage Young farmers to be patient and stay the course. Agri business is lucrative but it takes patience, understanding, doggedness and experience to arrive at the millionaire status.

Today we have potential farmers living in Lekki or Yaba and want to earn millions in vegetable business. They claim they want to be farmers but don't want to move to the rural areas to walk the talk! I just laugh them in swahili!

Believe me the so called elitist market has its own share of the market. Its more sustainable than the unstable price change of the open market. What they demand is quality?. Which is not too difficult to meet. All one needs to do is extra work.
Yes the demand supply ratio can. Nigeria buys imported tomatoes of lower grade at N1000. Getting a better quality at for less is a big advantage.


National Bureau of Statistics you say?
Where and when last were data's collated?
In Nigeria?
Where did they get the figures?
Big Woooww.
I guess i give up.
Your postulations or whatever are not realistic.
And like i said I completely gove up.
quote author=jeffmyson post=30007747]And I also encourage agri business to focus on the mass market because that is where the money is not the elitist market. How many people can afford 400 Naira /Kg tomatoes in Lagos? Is the market sustainable? Can the demand supply ratio keep you in business? What is the minimum wage and what percentage of it does people spend on food (on average household spend 30% of food budget on vegetables), what is the population of the city and household calculations?

When doing postulations and feasibility let us always take advantage of data released by the National Bureau of Statistic (its always on their website and free) to determine if our proposed business makes "reasonable economic sense" and if available data on consumer earnings and buying behavior will support the business model! [/quote]

choiceman:
OP, I agree with you on some of the point raised but you are leaving out pest and diseases. one of the major reasons why tomato doesn't do well is because of bacteria wilt. This can be controlled by greenhouse farming to a large extent. I learnt there are some green houses in owode in Ogun state, i have also seen one in Ikorodu installed by Dizengoff. Attached are some pictures, Kenya is seriously into this type of farming and they now construct greenhouses locally because of high cost.

Sir, I was sharing my stories, my experience in the farm. I expect questions from my audience but none is forthcoming. My stories becomes shorter because i can afford to cut corners.
Don't mind me sir.
Pest and Disease of tomatoes
Like you rightly said, bacterial wilt is o,e of the major sickness for tomatoes.
When we have on the farm, we kept applying every kind of pesticide, insecticide or whatever. Since we don't even know what it is. Eventually i have to do some little research. I found out it has no cure
One has to uproot the whole plant and burn to prevent the spread of it.
Bacterial wilt is from the soil. Beat method is to either use seeds that are resistance or find a way to treat the soil.
Si,ce it enter the plant through the root and the green house are sometimes treated in pots and bags. It becomes save.
The green house in Nigeria is too expensive. Dizengolf is selling at N1.100,000. How many farmers can afford that?

jethro2:

Sir, I was sharing my stories, my experience in the farm. I expect questions from my audience but none is forthcoming. My stories becomes shorter because i can afford to cut corners.
Don't mind me sir.
Pest and Disease of tomatoes
Like you rightly said, bacterial wilt is o,e of the major sickness for tomatoes.
When we have on the farm, we kept applying every kind of pesticide, insecticide or whatever. Since we don't even know what it is. Eventually i have to do some little research. I found out it has no cure
One has to uproot the whole plant and burn to prevent the spread of it.
Bacterial wilt is from the soil. Beat method is to either use seeds that are resistance or find a way to treat the soil.
Si,ce it enter the plant through the root and the green house are sometimes treated in pots and bags. It becomes save.
The green house in Nigeria is too expensive. Dizengolf is selling at N1.100,000. How many farmers can afford that?

Can you imagine? 1.1m for that rubbish they are selling. That same size of greenhouse in kenya cost like 250k, I don't know why Naija things are always different!

I believe if green house are cheap, many people will go into the business of vegetables and there will be supply all year round!

jethro2:
No one is disputing that so what are you betting? Please go over that post again. "I said Dangote tomato processing plant said they have seed that can yield 100 tonnes per hectare" It was written in the paper of which day or month i cant remember.
I am sure google could help with that
Please lets try to read in between lines.

I was referring to Dangote farms with their outrageous claims not you. That Is why farmers refused to buy the seeds from him and rather asked him to try and farm it himself in his demonstration farm. I don't think anyone is here to scam anyone on this thread. We are all learning! But please no shout figures too much as some of those e-farmers will think it is very easy and the next thing they will start tomatoes farm and when they fail they will start looking for someone to blame for their woes!

Tomatoes farming is not very easy! It require efforts and vigilance too! If you really want to know the wahala in it visit Kadawa Valley in Kano, you will see how northerners suffer for those tomatoes you consume everyday!

Cheers!

jethro2:
Believe me the so called elitist market has its own share of the market. Its more sustainable than the unstable price change of the open market. What they demand is quality?. Which is not too difficult to meet. All one needs to do is extra work.
Yes the demand supply ratio can. Nigeria buys imported tomatoes of lower grade at N1000. Getting a better quality at for less is a big advantage.


National Bureau of Statistics you say?
Where and when last were data's collated?
In Nigeria?
Where did they get the figures?
Big Woooww.
I guess i give up.
Your postulations or whatever are not realistic.
And like i said I completely gove up.
quote author=jeffmyson post=30007747]And I also encourage agri business to focus on the mass market because that is where the money is not the elitist market. How many people can afford 400 Naira /Kg tomatoes in Lagos? Is the market sustainable? Can the demand supply ratio keep you in business? What is the minimum wage and what percentage of it does people spend on food (on average household spend 30% of food budget on vegetables), what is the population of the city and household calculations?

When doing postulations and feasibility let us always take advantage of data released by the National Bureau of Statistic (its always on their website and free) to determine if our proposed business makes "reasonable economic sense" and if available data on consumer earnings and buying behavior will support the business model!

National Bureau of statistics are very reliable please! Corporate Nigeria and International rating Agencies use their data. Forget about how they collate their data as that is their professional business and focus on making positive use of those data.

I still maintain that 400/kg tomatoes market is limited as of today! The people who can afford it are very few percentile of the population whose earning averages minimum of 250k per month and that is the elite and expatriate community. The focus should always be on the mass market because that is where the money is!

Soloxam:
Can a tree make a forest?

Did you miss the word 'START' that I used in my post that you quoted?

A tree can start a forest. Let us stop ourselves from being mentwlly LAZY

Nice thread, valuable info, pls keep it up.