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VickyRotex:
No mind my Bororo friend fa... He sha wants to find trouble ni

As if you guys are not enjoying it. Am helping you all the make this thread more enjoyable. gudnite my Fulani friend.

Dragonking:
Macof, macof, macof!!! I have tried not to use insultive words for sometime and if you provoke me, I bet you won't be able to stand the heat..If you use insultive words again towards me, I will ensure that anywhere you post in any thread we will carry the use of abusive words there until a mod will ban both of us from NL. be warned!!

Next time pass your message in a reasonable manner.

Bororo friend, oya dont fight... Kpele

Dragonking:
As if you guys are not enjoying it. Am helping you all the make this thread more enjoyable. gudnite my Fulani friend.

you try...
Goodnight Bororo

VickyRotex:
Bororo friend, oya dont fight... Kpele

speaking like a pure Fulani girl....gud night, as I need to recharge my brain for the next trouble making tomorrow.

VickyRotex:
No joor I stil dont agree...

This girl youre stubburn o, you sabi speak yoruba? i dey tell you wetin dey. Na the modern way of talking the thing be dat. babe chill and accept.

pazienza:
I am not a Yoruba, I am Igbo. But I know that Itsekiris always have a soft spot for Yorubas, that's why I said, "if they(Itsekiris) permit".

pazienza - 'soft spot' should not erode a people culture, history and ancestral lineage. Moreover I perfectly understand what you mean by 'soft spot' - you referring to political alignment. Some Itsekiri leaders are doing that now because of disagreement and in-fighting with their Niger Delta brothers; the Ijaws and Urobhos.

pazienza:
It is you that don't understand my point.

The point I was making was that the Germans, the Japanese, and the Koreans all have a country where everybody there is of the same language stock. My point was never about if all the Germans, Japanese or Koreans live in the same country.

You are the one that introduced that argument. Cos I was well aware that not all Germans are in Germany, that knowledge is elementary.

If you are scared of a Yoruba only country, that's your cup of tea. What I know is that there must be an Igbo only country, You lots can sort each other out with your Northern masters.

Thank you.

My Northern Masters? Don't you know those with whom you exchange such banter on this forum? Is your mother well or has her epilepsy started again. Please tell her to look well before crossig the road and not to open her dirty mouth anyhow to everyone

omonnakoda:
My Northern Masters? Don't you know those with whom you exchange such banter on this forum? Is your mother well or has her epilepsy started again. Please tell her to look well before crossig the road and not to open her dirty mouth anyhow to everyone

So why exactly are you fidgeting at the mere mention of an independent Yoruba speaking country?

NigerMan1:
pazienza - 'soft spot' should not erode a people culture, history and ancestral lineage. Moreover I perfectly understand what you mean by 'soft spot' - you referring to political alignment. Some Itsekiri leaders are doing that now because of disagreement and in-fighting with their Niger Delta brothers; the Ijaws and Urobhos.

Ok.

This story is false.

pazienza:
So why exactly are you fidgeting at the mere mention of an independent Yoruba speaking country?

You have no manners and so the discussion is over .Naff off

Dragonking:
speaking like a pure Fulani girl....gud night, as I need to recharge my brain for the next trouble making tomorrow.

omonnakoda:
You have no manners and so the discussion is over .Naff off

Sorry bro, never meant any harm, perhaps I should go and edit that post.

refreshrate:
This girl youre stubburn o, you sabi speak yoruba? i dey tell you wetin dey. Na the modern way of talking the thing be dat. babe chill and accept.

looollss

I sabi speak yoruba I'm yoruba joor...

pazienza:
Sorry bro, never meant any harm, perhaps I should go and edit that post.

Fair enough. I apologize too

Unna still dey here... I hail ooh.
@ dragonking
When d stage is set make we grow balls, wage war to overthrow. I gonna let you know, make u come be the front runner!
Vicky, mzteemarh, et all..... unna do well.
Good night!

Dragonking:
Macof, macof, macof!!! I have tried not to use insultive words for sometime and if you provoke me, I bet you won't be able to stand the heat..If you use insultive words again towards me, I will ensure that anywhere you post in any thread we will carry the use of abusive words there until a mod will ban both of us from NL. be warned!!

Next time pass your message in a reasonable manner.

You deserve the insult for being a nuisance..you are exactly what I called you - a moronic bigot that doesn't want to see beyond his bigotry
even the link you've been peddling didn't say fulani conquered ilorin
So where do u get ur nonsense from?

Don't bother threatening me, refraining yourself from bigotry will do just fine

Fulaman198:
These forums has a tendency to hate on Fulani people

Not just fulani, every ethnicity is hated on this forum by bigots

The Fulanis are the ones under threat.How many places in Nigeria speak Fulani.? How many emirs speak Fulani? The Lamido of Adamawa addresses his people in Hausa.Theyy are not Hausa. Generally they dissolve into most communities but then so does salt only to bring out the best in the soup.We need to stop hating. Hating is what Eboes do best.Stirring up jealousy ,bitterness and resentment that is their stock in trade,never seeing the good in others

NigerMan1:
pazienza - you are LIAR. And a big one too. Listen to me very carefully; ITSEKIRIS are not Yoruba speaking people. If you do not know the history of the Itsekiris, kindly go do intense research and read widely how a nation, town and people in a place become known as 'same tribe' in modern day.

Even you Yorubas of today DID NOT originate from same place, same time, same ancestry. The word "Yoruba" was used to describe you and bring you under same influence is more political than traditional and culture.

Most of you in Yoruba land easily get hoodwinked with lies and fables your elder are weaving about other tribes, because it make you feel 'superior'.

Lmao won ti gbe tuntun de
Itsekiri are Yoruba speakers, I can relate with the language
They have linguistic and ancestral ties with Ijebu

A non-Yoruba teaching us our history..ok go on...write a book while you at it
I don't know why Yoruba keep giving you people headache..all u bigots

Demmzy15:
We've had Yorubas Muslims many years before the birth of Uthman bin Foodee(Dan Fodio). Muhammad Shitta Bey who is a rich man was born in 1824, some years after the Fulani Jihad started. His father was a Muslim yoruba scholar. Bey built mosques in Lagos and other towns.

http://yorupedia.com/subjects/yoruba-religion/islam/

Solagberu was certainly an older Muslim than Muhammad Shitta Bey, besides Muhammad's father was probably a slave

macof:
Solagberu was certainly an older Muslim than Muhammad Shitta Bey, besides Muhammad's father was probably a slave

Shitta Bey's father was a freed slave, a yoruba scholar. Even when they moved to badagry, he was the Islamic head. Please visit the link I provided, it's reliable. Islam in yorubaland is more than 500years!

Hobashola:
ok. we don hear ooo. I am a full-fledged Ilorin boy and i know that the only Fulani thing in Ilorin is the Emir's turban. even d emir no dey form Fulani man. I have never even heard him or his chiefs speak Fulani. I doubt if they understand the language sef. Meanwhile,people who are not here go dey use pcm for our headache. abeg leave us oooo. we didn't have a choice on what happened centuries ago. And really,what will depicting Ilorin as either Fulani or Yoruba change,eh? abeg,make everybody face better things jare.

Which language does he speak then. just asking

pazienza:
No. But Germany is a German only country, same with Korea( both North and South) and Japan. They are monoethnic. Wouldn't it be nice for Yorubas to have a Yoruba only country?

Sure! That's what Africa needs - nations built on ethnic homogeneity
Away with all these European abominations

Ethnic homogeneity comes about by taking over small tribes deleting their history ,rewriting it and then coalescing it into a new whole.

Demmzy15:
Shitta Bey's father was a freed slave, a yoruba scholar. Even when they moved to badagry, he was the Islamic head. Please visit the link I provided, it's reliable. Islam in yorubaland is more than 500years!

I guessed as much...his name is just to unyoruba for such an early time
I read your link and it agrees with me

point is Solagberu lived before Shitta Bey, and Before Solagberu no free Yoruba is known as a Muslim
There were mosques erected as early as 1550AD in Oyo-ile for muslims from other parts of west Africa who settled for purpose of trade and preaching, also foreign slaves joined in Islamic activities but a Yoruba had no part in that until much later
According to Alaafin, Sango read the Koran a couple of times during his stay at Nupeland

im proudly fulani from ilorin.. im proudly fulani from ilorin..

omonnakoda:
Ethnic homogeneity comes about by taking over small tribes deleting their history ,rewriting it and then coalescing it into a new whole.

It's happening in the North
Smaller ethnicities are being taken over by Hausa language
That's why the North is more firm and united

The middle belt is in trouble, but whether they like it or not their language and culture isn't as strong as the big guns like Hausa, so it's likely small groups get taken over and assimilated into the larger body but rewriting their history is not an issue, it would likely be about forgetting their earlier history without need to rewrite..that's how civilizations and nations are made not by merging people forcefully
Nigeria is a mess because there's no dominant culture, language and no common historically ties

Shey U. Nor dey hia pipu kal Haji Kolawole Kebe Kwara or Woteva?.

VickyRotex:
Yelz Omo Kwara!!!

Whatz kebe?

Omo Kwara/gambari

Crocz:
When people talk about Ilorin in this manner I just laugh cos they have absolute no idea what the place is like. Ilorin is majorly muslim city with virtually every indigen with different ancestral origin. The Emir also has Fulani ancestral origin but he's more YORUBA than anybody. The Emir is just a title to depict an Emirate, an Islamic state. I can categorically tell you the Emir does not even understand Fulfude. You'll see indigens with ancestral origins from Oyo(mostly), Osun (e.g former gov. Lawal), Borno, Kogi etc but still Yoruba!
You've said it best my brother.The Emirates is more Yoruba than Fulani. This Yoruba thing is a Primordial soup that envelopes everything around it. That's why everyone assimilates to it easily Cuz they like it. Yoruba's should be proud of their Diverse history. I have yet to see any

If you still of the opinion that Ilorin is being ruled by a Fulani, just go to the place and see for yourself. The complexity of things there is not as simple as you think.

Preach! I traveled to kwara and I loved it. The diversity is quite unique. No need to change nothing. Perhaps just allow more political and economical inclusiveness.

www.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oyo_Empire
www.ihuanedo.ning.com/m/discussion?id=2971192%3ATopic%3A11921
FACTS and FIGURES:
afonja sowed disunity that later led to the fall of the Empire and eventually civil wars among Yoruba. The sown ote ati tembelekun is the only problem of Yorubas now. We shall rule and dominate Africa again, once we destroy this disunity. Oyo Empire is the largest and longest African Empire so far, between 14th to 18th Century. Oyo as the center was only interrupted by sudden unexpected attack sometime around
1535, by the Nupe who then occupied it. However, after a short while, the ever resilient Yorubas Army destroyed them and took their reminants as perpetual slaves till European slave trade started. This served as an eye opener and made Oyo Empire to prepare a mighty military base that started waging wars on all fronts, conquering and taking territories towards the South, Badagry, Dahomey, Togo, etc. Also, taking massive territories up to fuga, Ibilo towards the East during which many more igbo slaves were taken. Also, towards the North, Kwara, Kogi etc. This explains why Yoruba was imposed as the lingual franca of this places, even currently today. They still speak Yoruba in Benin Republic, Togo and other captured areas that have now become independent countries of their own.
Even though Oyo empire did not really capture Benin City, by16th century, the Ewe and Aja states of modern Benin City were paying tribute to Oyo.
Yoruba Unity once put us on top of Africa till the useless son of Judas called afonja betrayed the African greatest Empire that had thousands of Hausa slaves, igbo slaves and slaves from other part of Africa.
Some senseless writers try so hard to downplay the fact that the colossal thousands of Fulani jihadist warriors waging war from Ilorin met their bloody catastrophic Waterloo in a bitter war fought with the great and formidable Yoruba Army at Offa, just before Oshogbo in 1837. The Yoruba Army actually chased the few reminants back to Ilorin with intension to annihilate them but lo, Ilorin had already become much of Yoruba/Hausa/Fulani mixture. Overrunning them, we would have killed too much of our own. Coupled with the fact that the Hausa/Fulanis apologised and sued for peace with a signed treaty never to pass their boundary again, the Yoruba Army returned to Oyo. was the very last time that the They hard the intension of over tuning Yoruba land and islamizing the entire empire.
Yoruba forces, in line with defence arrangement perfected by Yoruba leaders led by Alaafin Atiba, at the new capital,
Agodoyo around 1837.
Some of the classical literatures on Yoruba history related
to the above topic include Iwe Itan Ibadan (History of
Ibadan) by Isaac B. Akinyele (1911), History of the Yorubas
by Samuel Johnson (1921), Iwe Itan Ogbomoso (History of
Ogbomoso) by N.D. Oyerinde (1934), etc. These are some
of the classical works by academic and non academic historians.