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Re: Historical Facts About Ilorin And Kwara Yoruba by ghostofsparta(m): 3:52pm On Apr 08, 2015
Chanchit:
Na thunder go fire that foolish Afonja anywhere his miserable soul is.
Is your foul statement going to change things ? NO! Then why cursing ? Afonja was deceived the same way the non-African, landless Fulani jihadists recruited and deceived rogue elements living in lands ruled by the then original Hausa monarchs in order to cause and upturn things, in the midst of chaos i5lam is introduced as the saving religion. Go read historical books such as The Kano Chronicles
Re: Historical Facts About Ilorin And Kwara Yoruba by anonimi: 3:54pm On Apr 08, 2015
It's Ilorin all over again with Afonja and Alimi betrayal ready to play out and yoruba loss in tow embarassed embarassed embarassed

Already Buhari was codedly telling Lagosians to vote for Jimi Agabaje even at their APC rally shocked


JagbaJantis wey think sey im put im people for one chance danfo go soon find out sey na turn-by-turn be this life grin cheesy grin



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Re: Historical Facts About Ilorin And Kwara Yoruba by Ilekeh(f): 3:55pm On Apr 08, 2015
Soon Lagos will become another Ilorin if care is not taken.

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Re: Historical Facts About Ilorin And Kwara Yoruba by Elslim: 3:56pm On Apr 08, 2015
Instead of u to write on how to remove saraki dynasty from d iron hold they ve in kwara u de dia de write super story...


As long as saraki dynasty de rule.. una still be slaves...

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Re: Historical Facts About Ilorin And Kwara Yoruba by discusant: 3:57pm On Apr 08, 2015
But writer said the truth that Fulani who Afonja invited eventually carried out a mutiny against him and killed him. Subsequently, one of the Fulani, Alimi, took over Illorin which later became an emirate. What was the long essay out to dispute?

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Re: Historical Facts About Ilorin And Kwara Yoruba by Hadizam: 3:57pm On Apr 08, 2015
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Re: Historical Facts About Ilorin And Kwara Yoruba by jazzydee: 3:58pm On Apr 08, 2015
[size=20pt]Revisionist historian all lies, the fulani conquered ilorin and led a jihadist movement that conquered the yourba you cant rewrite historical facts that has already been established.[/size]

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Re: Historical Facts About Ilorin And Kwara Yoruba by KingTom(m): 3:59pm On Apr 08, 2015
stephenqueen103:
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See how Afonja ruined his people? grin

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Re: Historical Facts About Ilorin And Kwara Yoruba by VickyRotex(f): 4:00pm On Apr 08, 2015
tobtap:
ilorin afonja is evidently a yoruba town and the yoruba culture is evident in and around the city it self...the people all bear yoruba names, even the emir...the food,the names,dress,oriki,dance and way of life is YORUBA....
u can go on about the fulani emir there,but the yorubas clearly owns the town and the EMIR is still there because the majority of ilorin indigenes are MUSLIMS...

Thank you... I don't know why some people keep calling me fulani undecided
Re: Historical Facts About Ilorin And Kwara Yoruba by anonimi: 4:00pm On Apr 08, 2015
discusant:
But writer said the truth that Fulani who Afonja invited eventually carried out a mutiny against him and killed him. Subsequently, one of the Fulani, Alimi, took over Illorin which later became an emirate. What was the long essay out to dispute?

Just like Afonja was an Aare who rebelled against the yoruba leader, Alaafin we also have Aare Tinubu who rebelled and abused the modern day yoruba leader Awolowo.

Judgement time already




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Re: Historical Facts About Ilorin And Kwara Yoruba by Nobody: 4:00pm On Apr 08, 2015
VickyRotex:
No matter the history, Omo Kwara ododo ni mi kiss smiley

Where exactly in kwara?
Re: Historical Facts About Ilorin And Kwara Yoruba by Dragonking: 4:00pm On Apr 08, 2015
Bunch of cowards!!!! the Fulani just took their land and they are finding it difficult to collect it back. .Now they have no choice than to tell lies that the Fulani didn't conquer them. mtchheewww angry

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Re: Historical Facts About Ilorin And Kwara Yoruba by Remii(m): 4:01pm On Apr 08, 2015
in other words, Yoruba ronu, Agbaje is becoming another Afonja

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Re: Historical Facts About Ilorin And Kwara Yoruba by Nobody: 4:01pm On Apr 08, 2015
Demmzy15:
Emir is just a rough name of 'Amir' in Arabic, it means a 'leader'. So it's the influence of Islam not Fulani, Islam wasn't brought to yoruba land by the Fulanis but by the influence of the 'Songhai' empire in Mali. Yoruba Muslims have existed 100s of years before the birth of Uthman bin Foodee(Dan Fodio). So people claiming the Fulanis forced Islam on Yorubas is a big lie!

True.
It does not matter anymire whether the rulers were Fulani or not. Ilorin people and culture depict Yoruba. I don't know what socioeconomic significance the op hopes to derive especially with the mention of the National conference.
Re: Historical Facts About Ilorin And Kwara Yoruba by stephenqueen103(m): 4:02pm On Apr 08, 2015
KingTom:

See how Afonja ruined his people? grin
grin grin grin

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Re: Historical Facts About Ilorin And Kwara Yoruba by Nobody: 4:04pm On Apr 08, 2015
Demmzy15:
Afonja decided to exploit this also. He issued a proclamation saying that if any slaves ran away from their owners and came to him in Ilorin, he would give them freedom and protection there. Large numbers of slaves, mostly Hausa, fled to Afonja, and he trained some of them for his army.


BUT WHY DON'T WE HAVE HAUSA'S IN KWARA NOW?
Re: Historical Facts About Ilorin And Kwara Yoruba by ghostofsparta(m): 4:04pm On Apr 08, 2015
It's either the original writer of this post is ignorant or deliberately choose to ignore the historical points given to the fact that - prior to that particular period of religious turmoil, massive Isslamik campaigns had already begun to ravage North and West Africa nations for centuries by landless non-African invaders called the Fulani Arabs who in their merciless and brutal Isslamik campaigns known as jihad laid waste to an uncountable number of African lands thereby continually causing the displacement of natives of several tribal kingdoms (a ripple effect). In the name of Iislaamic crusading these Jihhadists brought upon African societies the kind of utter destruction which is no where comparable to that perpetrated by transatlantic slavers. When it came to the time of the Yorubas, the Afonja episode turned out to be the weak link which aided their penetration.

[b]The writer also failed to point out that Afonja was not only betrayed by the Fulanis he entrusted his political and military prowess with, but was also killed while on his horse by the death of an arrow-shot through his back such that he [Afonja] is said to have fallen to the ground lying awkwardly as the arrow unbalanced him while bleed to death. Has history has told us, that like so many Hausa rulers fell for the insidious ploy and deceits, so too did Afonja fell for years of Fulani master manipulation for he [Afonja] was blinded by his own ambition to establish his reign in upper Oyo, a decision which was initially meant for him to secure and protect upper Oyo and report to main Oyo of any activities should incase Oyo kingdom should prepare for war that may arise from Oke-Oya (North of Yorubaland i.e. the Hausa-lands), however, he instead connived with the Fulanis he so much believed had their support and were on his side, and went against the rulings of the then ruler of Oyo (the Alafin), [this fact is connected to the powerful Yoruba disorder-causing super-charm called Abilu which later came to the understanding of Yoruba historians and elders that Fulani spies who passed themselves off as peace-seeking, easy going mooslim clerics trickling to Yorubaland for years to mingle and settle within various communities throughout Yorubaland mainly as Isslamik clergies were noted to have learned, mastered and eventually used it [the Abilu science] against the Yorubas in future wars, beginning particularly with the Afonja fiasco where he and his superiors were in disarray and petty loggerheads which is what Abilu super-charm does.[/b]

[b]Afonja was yet another tool at the hand of the Fulanis jihadists, an important one for that matter since it served as the means that enabled them to amass a substantial amount of army of fighters indoctrinated with the believe to fight against the so-taught pagan Gods of their lands in embrace of prime deity of the Arab people who are not even Negroes but Semites to start with. This is the same tactics history tells us they [the Fulanis] had repeatedly used as a tool to destabilize kingdoms/nations that has any semblance of a ruling system or some sort of hierarchical structure of order because they very much understood if the head is cut off, the body must fall, they come nicely to preach Isslam, the peaceful villagers and townspeople never suspects they [the Fulani Arabs] use the granted opportunity to study and learn of the strength and weaknesses, they report back to their caliphs residing in the conquered lands of indigenous blacks turned into emirates, they appoint a date to strike after years of causing instability. In the chaos, slaves are captured and sold, when the dust settles, yet another emirate is established. If not for the British colonial intervention, historians agree that the Fulanis would have be driven far back out of Kwara/Illorin by a coalition of Yoruba forces, even more farther away off conquered Hausa territories. This notion is based upon the resulting outcome from The Battle of Oshogbo in 1830 where the invading Fulanis forces were crushed, defeated and driven back before the interference of the colonials. They've tried this over and over in order Kingdom they've conquered in their fanatic zeal to establish Isslam throughout black Africa....to dip the Kuan into the sea.[/b]

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Re: Historical Facts About Ilorin And Kwara Yoruba by Hobashola(m): 4:05pm On Apr 08, 2015
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Re: Historical Facts About Ilorin And Kwara Yoruba by Hobashola(m): 4:05pm On Apr 08, 2015
ok. we don hear ooo. I am a full-fledged Ilorin boy and i know that the only Fulani thing in Ilorin is the Emir's turban. even d emir no dey form Fulani man. I have never even heard him or his chiefs speak Fulani. I doubt if they understand the language sef. Meanwhile,people who are not here go dey use pcm for our headache. abeg leave us oooo. we didn't have a choice on what happened centuries ago. And really,what will depicting Ilorin as either Fulani or Yoruba change,eh? abeg,make everybody face better things jare.

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Re: Historical Facts About Ilorin And Kwara Yoruba by AreaFada2: 4:06pm On Apr 08, 2015
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Re: Historical Facts About Ilorin And Kwara Yoruba by cirmuell(m): 4:06pm On Apr 08, 2015
johnmartus:
i really enjoyed yours article please can you provide ilorin agenda in national conference?
It's not Ilorin but other surrounding yoruba speaking towns that want out(offa, igbominas et al). They want a state for themselves in the southwest region in collaboration with the yorubas of Kogi State(Okun people).
Re: Historical Facts About Ilorin And Kwara Yoruba by VickyRotex(f): 4:07pm On Apr 08, 2015
achemedez:

Where exactly in kwara?


Iloffa
Re: Historical Facts About Ilorin And Kwara Yoruba by KingTom(m): 4:09pm On Apr 08, 2015
Re: Historical Facts About Ilorin And Kwara Yoruba by Demmzy15(m): 4:09pm On Apr 08, 2015
rexbuton:
Good post.. Here is the next step..

1. Ask the Fulanis to leave quietly because when Nigeria has entered it's period of turmoil (probably after Buhari dies), Ilorin will be used as a base to launch attacks on the West. And with the Igbos attacking from the Lagoon, no army can fight on two fronts

2. Yorubas should accept the fact that they can never be accepted as true muslims, hence they should all turn to Christ who is the surest and only way to salvation. This way the Fulani will be alienated and leave. Personally I think fulani incursions into the middlebelt should be checked in order not to be caught unawares

3. Arrange a referendum in which people be made to vote for the scrapping of the Emir title. TINUBU can easily swing this

4. Ignore this message and watch Badagry (in Lagos) turned into Baga in a few years
Lol, so the Hausa-Fulani are now prophet Muhammad progenitors abi? Mchwww
Re: Historical Facts About Ilorin And Kwara Yoruba by cobratail: 4:10pm On Apr 08, 2015
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OperationIgrigi:
**grins** Revisionism at it's peak.Ishilove and co. frontpage biko. I wan talk something.
Kwara and Kogi belongs to the fulanis they fought for it and own everything including the yoruba vassal there. Any attempt to install an Oba will bring the wrath of the Sultanate upon them. Emirate Kwara is one reason why yorubas do not want this country to divide, they do not want to face the Fulanis wrath over that southernmost fulani emirate. Pure cowardice!. **LOLS**
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Amadi Collins, We need to know about Rumuigbo story and the Portharcourt story. Mugun

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