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Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Nobody: 4:42pm On Apr 23, 2015
EUROBOMBER:


The Igbos are a blessed group of people. God has blessed us and no man can curse us.

Well it sure seems you have been cursed in political issues.
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by pazienza(m): 4:42pm On Apr 23, 2015
Tinubu is another Awo in the block, he has once again decided to team with the North against Southern solidarity.

Tomorrow you lots will still seek to re write history as we know it.

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Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Duru1(m): 4:48pm On Apr 23, 2015
giantstrides:


My question wasn't answered, you just steered the discussion to another angle. I think I agree with passingshot, the Igbos do not seem to want the presidency, right from the first republic when Azikwe's led NCNC rejected Awolowo's AG in an alliance that would have made the Igbos a dominant force , since they held higher numbers in the parliament than the Action Group. Instead , they joined NPC and gave the northerners power on a platter of gold, the mistake has been repeated over and over again since then .

The writer of the above crap needs a rudimental lesson in history.
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Nobody: 4:59pm On Apr 23, 2015
EzioAuditore:


[s]Well it sure seems you have been cursed in political issues.[/s]

You are the cursed one.
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by aresa: 5:00pm On Apr 23, 2015
The sad part is president or no president, ibo land continues to regress and stagnate.

The problem is not ibo presidency, it's lousy, thoughtless, greedy, uncaring vision les leadership with societal bad, angry, bitter and unhelpful culture of hate towards other people.

They need to forget about presidency and work on their unhelpful, unwelcoming and antagonistic attitude against other Nigerians.

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Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by biafransoul: 5:27pm On Apr 23, 2015
aresa:



The sad part is president or no president, ibo land continues to regress and stagnate.

The problem is not ibo presidency, it's lousy, thoughtless, greedy, uncaring vision les leadership with societal bad, angry, bitter and unhelpful culture of hate towards other people.

They need to forget about presidency and work on their unhelpful, unwelcoming and antagonistic attitude against other Nigerians.





See what jealousy and self hate is doing to you. Jealousy remains the root of hatred and it can bring you death and destruction. Why can't you just leave the hate and step up your game man? Take the battle to them in the East as they have taken the battle to the west. Go and compete with them instead of hating. Gosh! You suck

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Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by xtayle(m): 5:27pm On Apr 23, 2015
okekeanayo:
u have spoken like a yoruba man, they are deceitful and tribally inclined.u beat ur chest to be one who determine votes but ask with what number of votes?When south-east and south-south voted for Obasanjo in 1999 and 2003,they were the right people,when these same zones voted for Yaradua in 2007 they were not tribal and sentimental.When they presented and voted a candidate, they became sentimental and tribal. My question is have the south-south and south-east shown love enough to Hausas and yorubas that should engender same love from the later? You have said it allow trust is earned but yoruba man is not trusted in the bed of politics, not even the hausas can trust them.
d determinant vote does not hv to be much. all it has to do is make d favourite win.ezeogu killed only non igbos in his coup. who is more tribalistic? I forgot to add that the igbos reserves the right to continue d way they are but they will never produce a president. the choice is theirs.
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Nobody: 5:32pm On Apr 23, 2015
EzioAuditore:


Well it sure seems you have been cursed in political issues.
seconded
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Nobody: 5:33pm On Apr 23, 2015
EUROBOMBER:


You are the cursed one.

Wow! This isn't personal mate.
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Tvegas(m): 5:39pm On Apr 23, 2015
If they stop calling the Yoruba amala eaters, if they stop emphasising how poor the north is, if all igbo leaders stop patronising every government in power. If the igbo masses stop seeing other major tribes as their enemies and forget about the yeye biafran agitations ......The list is long but they can start with these.

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Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Serex66: 5:48pm On Apr 23, 2015
[quote author=PassingShot post=33027017]

I don't think anything like that happened. There were no conditions in the whole arrangement.

I wasn't there, but i read it and i am just hoping it would be feasible. Its time for Igbos to lead us, I really want to see how Nigeria would be like under an Igbo Man. It. Will be great i believe so, though my my mum once said even the Air we breathe will be pirated cheesy. Actually she was just joking. She was scared one time when Jim Nwobodo wanted to contest for presidency that he would use all our money to buy Cream cheesy grin

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Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by ERockson: 6:02pm On Apr 23, 2015
I think the Igbo or south east will be the last tribe or region any region will pally with when it comes to national politics. why? No region trust them

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Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo: 6:12pm On Apr 23, 2015
ramdris:

I disagree sir. All he needs is strong backing from prominent Ibo politicians as well as those from other zones. Fashola was never a household name when he became Governor, all he needed was a well known Politician in the person of Tinubu to package him. Same can be apply to Ogbonnaya. Besides he was a member of ANPP before they merged.

I think your idea about having the political support of political godfathers is feasible if in terms of making Ogbonnaya a governor. But in terms of the presidency, that's an entirely different ball game. Under our current political ecosystem, you must have at least previously held a notable position such as a vice president, governor, a speaker of the federal house of reps, a senate president etc to reasonably stand a shot at winning the highest political office in the land.
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Nobody: 6:12pm On Apr 23, 2015
dreaming in broad day light, Igbo president my foot
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo: 6:14pm On Apr 23, 2015
I see so many intelligent responses cool

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Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo: 6:18pm On Apr 23, 2015
Tvegas:
If they stop calling the Yoruba amala eaters, if they stop emphasising how poor the north is, if all igbo leaders stop patronising every government in power. If the igbo masses stop seeing other major tribes as their enemies and forget about the yeye biafran agitations ......The list is long but they can start with these.

Good points! I hope the ibos aspiring for presidency are taking note of things like this.

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Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by PassingShot(m): 6:22pm On Apr 23, 2015
Serex66:


I don't mind an Igbo or any other tribe being our president at all. Performance is the main thing for me and that should be what guides us.

I really like Okorocha and he should fancy his chances to be a president someday but I doubt if it will be 2019.

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Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo: 6:23pm On Apr 23, 2015
aresa:



The sad part is president or no president, ibo land continues to regress and stagnate.

The problem is not ibo presidency, it's lousy, thoughtless, greedy, uncaring vision les leadership with societal bad, angry, bitter and unhelpful culture of hate towards other people.

They need to forget about presidency and work on their unhelpful, unwelcoming and antagonistic attitude against other Nigerians.






So you're saying it's an attitude problem? Hmmm...I think this aspect partly has to do with the ibo culture itself; and I think it's time ibos started a cultural reform of some sort or call it a cultural evolution if you will that would redefine the character of the average ibo man positively and help change the negative perception other tribes have towards ibos character wise.
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo: 6:25pm On Apr 23, 2015
pazienza:
Tinubu is another Awo in the block, he has once again decided to team with the North against Southern solidarity.

Tomorrow you lots will still seek to re write history as we know it.

I think it's reasonable to leave Tinubu out of this.

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Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Volksfuhrer(m): 6:31pm On Apr 23, 2015
MalcoImX:
Amaechi especially, if he's an Igbo, can make it because he has a national appeal. Okorocha and Ngige too. But the problem with Igbo politics is anybody who tries to build a bridge to other Nigerians is seen as an outcast.

That is what I find baffling.

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Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by aresa: 6:34pm On Apr 23, 2015
biafransoul:


See what jealousy and self hate is doing to you. Jealousy remains the root of hatred and it can bring you death and destruction. Why can't you just leave the hate and step up your game man? Take the battle to them in the East as they have taken the battle to the west. Go and compete with them instead of hating. Gosh! You suck


Why do you people delude yourselves with the jealousy nonsens? What's there to jealous. Jealous of the barren and unproductive land that your, your forefathers and grandchildren can not stay or survive in or the fake and substandard products you dirty the place with? Just what exactly

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Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by slimfit1(m): 6:34pm On Apr 23, 2015
They still haven't produce a credible governor since 1999 .

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Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo: 6:35pm On Apr 23, 2015
pazienza:



How exactly are Tambuwal and Fashola presidential materials? Is Buhari a presidential material too? Is he better than Ochendo in any aspect of leadership or personal achievements? Other than shooting himself into power?

We're talking about the current political democratic dispensation, not the military era; and so, in this case Buhari didn't "shoot" himself to power but he won an election. The thing is he tried three times earlier but failed. So what did he do the fourth time that he didn't do before; or what was he doing before that he stopped doing? That's the point in this. Because if he had kept doing the same things, he would have gotten the same results, so obviously the Buhari team made some vital changes (political, social etc) that helped him succeed on a national scale. For one, the ibos haven't even been able to produce a presidential candidate on the major political platforms of the day (then PDP; now APC). So what are those crucial changes (political, social etc) the ibos need to make?

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Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo: 6:43pm On Apr 23, 2015
PassingShot:


I don't mind an Igbo or any other tribe being our president at all. Performance is the main thing for me and that should be what guides us.

I really like Okorocha and he should fancy his chances to be a president someday but I doubt if it will be 2019.

You're spot on, performance is and must be the yardstick for selecting our number one leader. However, like I said before, this is a case of national contribution and all tribes are working collectively as a matter of unavoidable obligation to contribute their own quota to Nigeria's development. Now, are we saying the ibos can't provide Nigeria with a performing president - is this a feat too tall for the ibo tribe? I think not; but something just isn't right yet and the lbos need to start doing some critical reassessments

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Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by aresa: 6:49pm On Apr 23, 2015
Amazo:



So you're saying it's an attitude problem? Hmmm...I think this aspect partly has to do with the ibo culture itself; and I think it's time ibos started a cultural reform of some sort or call it a cultural evolution if you will that would redefine the character of the average ibo man positively and help change the negative perception other tribes have towards ibos character wise.


I highlighted the cultural part too which remains the basic foundation of their predicament.

They need some serious societal reorientation and attitude adjustment which sadly you can not count on since they are passed on from patents to kids and ground kids. Their leaders can not do anything either because they benefit directly from these deficiencies, this is how they hide and deflect their own leadership failure.
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo: 6:51pm On Apr 23, 2015
Serex66:
Actually Rochas would contest in 2019 and i think he would win....he said Buhari promised him if he supports him this time that he too would support him in 2019 and I know Buhari is a man of his words.

This is hearsay I believe and lacks any political merit. The presidency can't be won by "he said", "they said" kind of beer-parlor gossips
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by CyerSeries: 6:52pm On Apr 23, 2015
PassingShot:
I have thought of this same issue too and as I was about arriving at an answer (or so I thought), I realized that the Igbos failed to vote for late Odumegu Ojukwu when he ran in 2003.

In 2007 when Buhari ran with late Okadigbo (which should have meant that they could have a shot at the presidency after GMB), they didn't vote for the ticket.

Then I concluded that perhaps the Igbos do not like to produce the president.
Okadigbo that died in 2003? Owk my bad ...I heard he came back from grave and contested with Buhari, after obj rigged them out, he went back to his grave undecided
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo: 6:56pm On Apr 23, 2015
aresa:



I highlighted the cultural part too which remains the basic foundation of their predicament.

They need some serious societal reorientation and attitude adjustment which sadly you can not count on since they are passed on from patents to kids and ground kids. Their leaders can not do anything either because they benefit directly from these deficiencies, this is how they hide and deflect their own leadership failure.



Yes, I think there are so many culpable leaders in the SE who are partly responsible for the political retardation of the ibos in the current political ecosystem of Nigeria. I think it's a problem of political shortsightedness on their part, and many SE leaders seem to be taking crucial political decisions for their tribe with their third eye closed.

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Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by CyerSeries: 7:00pm On Apr 23, 2015
Hausas and Yorubas are very pathetic especially Yorubas..We supported OBJ no problem, we supported yaradua no problem, we supported GEJ and it became crime.. angry..Very pathetic people..The north that has been ruling from time immemorial, are their life better than Igbos in all ramifications? You people should solve your problem and allow Igbos to solve theirs..rubbish sad

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Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Amazo: 7:06pm On Apr 23, 2015
Wscholar:
dreaming in broad day light, Igbo president my foot

Every reality was once a "dream". Now, the thing is we don't want the ibos dreaming too long. So what practical steps can they take to make this dream happen? Just like with all other tribes, they (ibos) are a vital part of the BETTER NIGERIA dream.
Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by Nobody: 7:09pm On Apr 23, 2015
The answer is simply; future impossible tense. Igbos are the architect of their own political palava and marginalization. They should desist from the politics of bitterness and and hatred towards other tribes from the West and North. This is 21st century, yet Igbos are still hating the Hausas, Fulanis, and Yorubas for the aftermath of the civil war fought in the 19 century. Whoever among them that connects or align with other regions aside from the SS is forsaken and disowned. Sometimes it baffles me why Igbos are calling Okorocha names; Alhaji Okorocha, Mallam Okorocha, Babatunde Okorocha etc. You are hating this gentleman, the best performing Governor in the East simply because of his alignment with other tribes and regions. Why?
If APC produces Okorocha has their Presidential Flag bearer in 2019, he wouldn't gonna get a meaningful votes from his brothers and sisters because he has been termed as a Traitor. What do you call Peter Obj? A Saint He abandoned the Legacy of Ojukwu for monetary gain.
Igbos should let bygone be bygone. We all love you guys and ready to make one of you the next President. But are you guys ready

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Re: How Can Nigeria Produce An Ibo President? by PassingShot(m): 7:10pm On Apr 23, 2015
CyerSeries:
Okadigbo that died in 2003? Owk my bad ...I heard he came back from grave and contested with Buhari, after obj rigged them out, he went back to his grave undecided

Are you saying late Okadigbo was never a running mate to GMB?

What's your point pls?

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