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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by Nobody: 11:53pm On Jul 14, 2015
pazienza:


I owe it my unborn generation to make sure they don't get to share the same country with the Odua-Arewa, I would have failed them, if Biafra don't become a reality.

I don't hate the Odua-Arewa, but we have no business sharing same country with them, we have virtually nothing in common with them, other than our skin colour. We will make good neighbors with them as members of ECOWAS.

Look at the way they are just lying and believing their lies.

I have set a template for myself, my transaction between Yorubas I must open eyes because I have learnt from the mistakes of others.

Friendship with a Yoruba is a friendship, when business calls we do and go our seperate ways.

I have really learnt a lot and thank God my life is still emerging, many loopholes and pitfalls will be avoided and Yorubas are one of them by the time I set out.
Its not a threat, its a fact, sombody that is not predictable and trustworthy is worst than be a terrorist or enemy because a covert enemy is worst than a defined enemy

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by lastpage: 11:55pm On Jul 14, 2015
logica:
There has been a wrong use of terms which I believe started with the Sardauna (Ahmadu Bello).

When you speak of "dominate", what comes to mind is like the Barcelona FC team of present. They dominate. And why do they dominate? Because they are head and shoulders above all other teams.

On the other hand, what the Igbo as a group tended to do is called amassing. Like a crowd of piranha on a hapless goat.

Everyone knew they (the Igbos) had most to gain from the Nigerian contraption. For instance, Yorubas and Hausa/Fulani had been interacting way back since the 15th Century. The Igbos had been isolated for so long till the Oyinbos came along to build bridges connecting them to the South West and North. So they suddenly developed a wanderlust and wanted to spread across the country. Meanwhile Yorubas and Hausas who had wanderlust were already old, tired or dead so not many were engaging in such travel. But it was the behavior of the surjourners in their various host lands that was ultimately their undoing.


logica: On the other hand, what the Igbo as a group tended to do is called amassing. Like a crowd of piranha on a hapless goat.

This got me laughing unexpectedly that l spilled my tea! grin grin

A few Northerners l have spoken with over the years, all say the same thing: These guests of ours are "brazenly usurping" in their general nature.
I noticed that not a single Igbo responder had addressed this particular issue.
Does it appear to remind one of the "We own Lagos" claims that also angered Yorubas, in recent times?
Does such attitude breed resentment within the host community?

Igbos, let us dissect this issue with honesty of purpose.



Thanks for your opinion.


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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by lastpage: 12:01am On Jul 15, 2015
successmatters:


Each time the igbo try to forget, it will take a stupid action like a first class oba threatening publicly to drown a tribe in the lagoon to make us remember that 1967-70 is still here with us.

I agree with you that it takes only an "unguarded statement" to inflame passions.


But could it be that the Oba was speaking in a larger than life metaphor?
I am surprised and still wondering, if the statement was to be interpreted literally, why would the Igbos present in "life and blood" be applauding the Oba at that event?

It cant be out of fear as some would think because l dont see the Oba picking them up and dumping them into the Lagoon right there in front of Cameras?
So, the explanation does not seem logical, IMO.



....and by the way, there was an apology on behalf of Kabiyesi (who by tradition, is beyond apologising to any mortal! grin ) and being just one person, how could the whole Yoruba Nation become an enemy on that account?

Thanks for your opinion on the issues


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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by 0monnak0da: 12:01am On Jul 15, 2015
This long explanation is totally unnecessary .These folk are spiteful animals and only understand one language.We do not owe them any explanations.All we need to do is continue with our strategy.When they step out of line we respond. That is all there is to it we cannot be friends with them and are not interested in their point of view so stop all this school boy diplomacy
When History is written scholar will tell those coming that it was these savages that cost GEJ and the south the presidency,in their eyes they are smarter than everyone
They are not in a position to dictate anything those who want to leave Nigeria can leave the borders are open.but they must remember that they lost their land in the war it is no longer theirs the solution for them is to leave the country , or become Muslims or Yorubas.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by Nobody: 12:02am On Jul 15, 2015
My Oga, we've dwelt so much on the event of 1967-70. We need to moved forward.
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Aaah! Barcanista! E'tu Brutus! shocked shocked shocked

Issokay o! grin grin


But seriously, we need ot discuss the "underlying issues", vent if necessary and then let it go as you said.
I am even surprised that those who did not witness the war, seems to be more at loggerheads with themselves, for a generation with access to internet and technology, for that mater! shocked


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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by pazienza(m): 12:03am On Jul 15, 2015
BuddahMonk:


Look at the way they are just lying and believing their lies.

I have set a template for myself, my transaction between Yorubas I must open eyes because I have learnt from the mistakes of others.

Friendship with a Yoruba is a friendship, when business calls we do and go our seperate ways.

I have really learnt a lot and thank God my life is still emerging, many loopholes and pitfalls will be avoided and Yorubas are one of them by the time I set out.
Its not a threat, its a fact, sombody that is not predictable and trustworthy is worst than be a terrorist or enemy because a covert enemy is worst than a defined enemy

I really dont have a problem with Yorubas as individuals, I have a good Yoruba friend from Kwara, he is a nice guy with no problem.

But individuals must be separated from nations. There are Israeli Arabs, but that does not mean that Israel should now start coexisting with Lebanon, Syria, Egypt and Saudi Arabia.

This is the mistake some one Nigerian Igbo apologists are guilty of. They are too emotionally unstable and have failed to separate individual entanglements from national ideologies.

Because I have a Yoruba wife, a Yoruba friend or Yoruba in-laws, nieces and nephews, therefore Ndiigbo must co exist with Yorubas, one Nigeria must stand, this is how shallow their reasoning are, but good a thing they are but an insignificant minority, the majority of Ndiigbo will have their way in the end.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by lastpage: 12:05am On Jul 15, 2015
betty202020:
OK like u said we can not leave together, I am igboman , if u say we can not live together, let the two tribes maintain peace. our people said for one to wash his two hands clean, left hand must wash right hand and vise vasa. let peace reign. nature has placed us in southern region of the country, we should bury our differences and forge ahead. the war was between east and north though the roles west played cannot be forgotten easily but we will not be like this forever. now even if we go our separate ways, won't we have ambassadors to odua republic or what ever name our Western brothers choose to bear. won't we have bilateral agreements? let peace reign . Okey now we have interethnic marriages going on between us on daily basis is it not enough reason for us to leave in peace? let us maintain peace .

You have spoken well. May we have more of people like you amongst us.
Even if we go our separate ways, we would be what we call "neighbouring countries"! Will igbos still not come to Lagos to do business and vice-versa?
The East has the goods, the West has the market; Its that not mutually beneficial to both?

I dont see Nigeria and Rep. of Benin being peopled with humans who hate themselves else, it will be even worse than now that "Nigeria" still binds us together!
Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by 0monnak0da: 12:16am On Jul 15, 2015
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You have spoken well. May we have more of people like you amongst us.
Even if we go our separate ways, we would be what we call "neighbouring countries"! Will igbos still not come to Lagos to do business and vice-versa?
The East has the goods, the West has the market; Its that not mutually beneficial to both?

I dont see Nigeria and Rep. of Benin being peopled with humans who hate themselves else, it will be even worse than now that "Nigeria" still binds us together!
What goods does the east have please do not deceive anyone.The East manufactures nothing and are just traders there is nothing they do that cannot be easily replaced with much better.Do they offer quality goods?
The truth is their way of doing business is actually holding development back. The departure of Eboes wlll be their dispersal as stateless individuals.The war they are clamouring for will definitely happen and this time they will be evacuated from Nigeria permanently

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by betty202020(m): 12:18am On Jul 15, 2015
lastpage:


You have spoken well. May we have more of people like you amongst us.
Even if we go our separate ways, we would be what we call "neighbouring countries"! Will igbos still not come to Lagos to do business and vice-versa?
The East has the goods, the West has the market; Its that not mutually beneficial to both?

I dont see Nigeria and Rep. of Benin being peopled with humans who hate themselves else, it will be even worse than now that "Nigeria" still binds us together!
thanks my dear. may God grant us peace.
Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by SUBWAY101(m): 12:20am On Jul 15, 2015
BuddahMonk:


I was just laughing at their brazzen display of lies in an uncouth way.

These are people that

Celebrated Oba Akiolu as a hero.

Celebrated Abraham Ariyo as a hero.

Some of the people running their mouths here could be spotted in the picture below.

I know a Yoruba for two things first as a liar and second as a coward, their ways are no longer strange to me.

This drug addict, But I personally know your father as a real coward. Yeebhoes are born liars and hypocrite. Yeebhoe will never admit to be wrong but will blame everyone except himself. You blame Yoruba for your own personal failure in life. You have been living with your mother in the village and still blame Yoruba for it, you impregnate a local ashe.wo recently and still blaming yoruba for it. You have been cursed from womb and reason you do funny and weird things.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by SUBWAY101(m): 12:25am On Jul 15, 2015
pazienza:


I really dont have a problem with Yorubas as individuals, I have a good Yoruba friend from Kwara, he is a nice guy with no problem.

But individuals must be separated from nations. There are Israeli Arabs, but that does not mean that Israel should now start coexisting with Lebanon, Syria, Egypt and Saudi Arabia.

This is the mistake some one Nigerian Igbo apologists are guilty of. They are too emotionally unstable and have failed to separate individual entanglements from national ideologies.

Because I have a Yoruba wife, a Yoruba friend or Yoruba in-laws, nieces and nephews, therefore Ndiigbo must co exist with Yorubas, one Nigeria must stand, this is how shallow their reasoning are, but good a thing they are but an insignificant minority, the majority of Ndiigbo will have their way in the end.

The truth is we Yorubas have nothing in common with Yeebhoes as well. You people come online to say Yoruba is holding from going, how are we holding you? The reality on ground shows yeebhoes are the one trooping to SW daily, you open your biafra thread on nairaland owned by a Yoruba man and still tell us not to comment. You hate us and we hate you too with passion. Declare your biafra and stop making noise on a Nigerian forum. Simple

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by sweetgala(m): 12:25am On Jul 15, 2015
Dannyset:
I have a lot of Igbo friends, and I can't remember the last time we exchange insult cos of tribe. Some of us just allow the seed of discord sown by politicians and some elders, to grow in our heart.

Igbo children are often thought to have a distrust of their Yoruba friends. A Yoruba parent would not often call their child aside say" be careful of that Igbo boy" however Igbo parents use false tales of the civil war to cloud their kids judgement
Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by pazienza(m): 12:29am On Jul 15, 2015
SUBWAY101:


The truth is we Yorubas have nothing in common with Yeebhoes as well. You people come online to say Yoruba is holding from going, how are we holding you? The reality on ground shows yeebhoes are the one trooping to SW daily, you open your biafra thread on nairaland owned by a Yoruba man and still tell us not to comment. You hate us and we hate you too with passion. Declare your biafra and stop making noise on a Nigerian forum. Simple

Why then do you threaten death and Hades at the mention of Biafra, why does the word Biafra send trepidation down your hearts?

NL is owned by a Yoruba man, it's not a property of Odua-Arewanistan republic, I don't have a problem with individuals, I simply don't want to share same national identity with Odua-Arewa people, and I am happy the feeling is mutual.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by T8ksy(m): 12:30am On Jul 15, 2015
logica:
There has been a wrong use of terms which I believe started with the Sardauna (Ahmadu Bello).

When you speak of "dominate", what comes to mind is like the Barcelona FC team of present. They dominate. And why do they dominate? Because they are head and shoulders above all other teams.

On the other hand, what the Igbo as a group tended to do is called amassing. Like a crowd of piranha on a hapless goat.

Everyone knew they (the Igbos) had most to gain from the Nigerian contraption. For instance, Yorubas and Hausa/Fulani had been interacting way back since the 15th Century. The Igbos had been isolated for so long till the Oyinbos came along to build bridges connecting them to the South West and North. So they suddenly developed a wanderlust and wanted to spread across the country. Meanwhile Yorubas and Hausas who had wanderlust were already old, tired or dead so not many were engaging in such travel. But it was the behavior of the surjourners in their various host lands that was ultimately their undoing.

@ bolded....... the term was actually first used by a prominent ibo lawyer- Charles Onyeama, member of the Central Legislative Council, who made a public statement in Lagos, in 1945 that the ibo domination of Nigeria was only a matter of time.

And it (the term), was aptly used in this context because by they are omo oju o ro 'la ri....................., like the poor little boy who by chance, found himself lost in a chocolate factory. He is bound to gorge himself silly! The sardunna saw this long before independence hence he insisted (to the colonialist and the new faked nationalists) that for their to be one nigeria, he had to be in control else he knew the ibos wouldn't see anything wrong in enslaving his people right there in kano, kadunna katsina ati bebelo under the guise of nationalism.

Akintola and the "moderate" yorubas including the lagos elite finally realise this awesome trait (in their new found "brother"....sic.......across the River Niger) in the first republic when they took most of the posts allocated to southern nigeria by virtue of being in coalition with the ruling party. Hence the the yorubas coined a new description for them, IBO- I before others.............because they are damn greedy!

The Akintola audio is quite an eye opener! At one point he even advised his yoruba listeners in ijile yoruba, pause for a minute and put aside his quarrel with awolowo to collectively watch out for the ibo's proclivity to dominate wherever they find them selves and he gave ample evidences of the recent lob-sided appointments in the 1st republic to buttress his point. For instance, out of 4 VC posts in yorubaland, the ibos took 3.............in the early 60's! When even my "nothing special" ijebu family already had a 2 lawyers, a doctor and a civil engineer, all london trained and might i add, not on scholarship.............when Awo's free education was flourishing in yorubaland. Something they tried but could not afford their people in their own land.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by SUBWAY101(m): 12:31am On Jul 15, 2015
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BuddahMonk:


Look at the way they are just lying and believing their lies.

I have set a template for myself, my transaction between Yorubas I must open eyes because I have learnt from the mistakes of others.

Friendship with a Yoruba is a friendship, when business calls we do and go our seperate ways.

I have really learnt a lot and thank God my life is still emerging, many loopholes and pitfalls will be avoided and Yorubas are one of them by the time I set out.
Its not a threat, its a fact, sombody that is not predictable and trustworthy is worst than be a terrorist or enemy because a covert enemy is worst than a defined enemy
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You insult all tribe in this country yet you animals talk about people hating you. You denigrate others but will cry when they retaliate. You people are the true coward in this country, you bastard have been doing it for long but now crying cos everyone is now giving it back to una. The north you all insult daily are now plenty on nairaland to retaliate, you have regard for no one and believe you are superior yet you are all animals in human skin. You call us coward cos we live peacefully with you animals, the hausa are brave cos they kill you for any small reason, there is no tribe that like you people cos of una ways. You hate us and we hate you too so its a simple case.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by SUBWAY101(m): 12:38am On Jul 15, 2015
pazienza:


Why then do you threaten death and Hades at the mention of Biafra, why does the word Biafra send trepidation down your hearts?

NL is owned by a Yoruba man, it's not a property of Odua-Arewanistan republic, I don't have a problem with individuals, I simply don't want to share same national identity with Odua-Arewa people, and I am happy the feeling is mutual.

You cant beat a child and still tell him not to cry. The hatred is mutual, this is nairaland and not biafraland. We all have the right to comment on any thread on this board. No one is threatening you cos of biafra, you are the people making noise on radiobiafra that you will kill Yorubas and we are also letting you know you will all die in millions if you try it. I have got no yeebhoe friend anymore and also let them know now that the hatred is mutual. Declare your biafra and stop mentioning Yoruba everywhere, you cant be denigrating my tribe and want me to keep quiet. Are you crazy?

Nairaland is owned by a Yoruba man you all hate his people and its the property of NIGERIA. Leave our region and send our people away from your region, its a simple case. You cant be in my region and still threatening to kill me and want me to keep quiet. We will always return your insult daily until you all go back to your cursed land and leave us alone. We are enemies henceforth.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by SUBWAY101(m): 12:40am On Jul 15, 2015
T8ksy:



Thank you, my brother!!! Agba oni ton ni 'le yin.

In addition to the bolded above, out of 21 ministerial post, the northerners (NPC) took 10 juicy posts leaving 11 for the south.

The ibos (NCNC) been the greedy souls they are, took 10 leaving 1- minister of Labour for the yorubas. This was all alluded to by Akintola in his

1965 campaign speech. The video too is on Youtube.Yorubas now could clearly discern why the ibos were all for One Nigeria where they hope to

dominate their so-called fellow countrymen. This was why Akintola too had to die at the hands of the jan 15th coupists just as the sardunna was

earmarked to die for protecting the interest of his people in this unholy union.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by lastpage: 12:41am On Jul 15, 2015
Mckennedy:


until yorubas apologise for all igbo treasury they looted and at the end of the civil war,, don't forget igbos were giving £20 only no matter how much millions you may have banked with Nigerian bank provided you're an igbo..Secondly the idea of food blockade instigated by Awolowo is another food for thought,, yorubas should put pride away and apologise to igbos on all these issues , less I forget last time I checked Fashola deported igbos from lagos,Oba Akiolu treating to dump them in the lagoon,so where are your love??.until the sovereignty of the disposes people are addressed there will never be peace.

Some of you have a way of "starting a journey from the middle"!
Let us go to the beginning of the matter

Apology is never a problem with Yorubas because they dont have that haughty self-pride.

Is it Yorubas that looted the CBN in benin City when it was ransacked by Biafran Soldiers?
Or dont you know that is the "sole reason" for Changing the currency overnight since Biafra was using the currency they looted, to buy weapons from outside?
Your understanding of history is poor or deliberately mischievous.

On the starvation issue: Let me remind you there is a war going-on and in war, ANYTHING IS GAME!
Each side will do anything to win.
That is a fact of war.


That is why those who have witnessed a war, ....never pray for one.
All these "after war children" who bay for war are just making me laugh because when reality sets-in, my Brother, there are no winners.

Let me also add that at times, a very sympathetic leader who wants to win a war, uses what is known as the "sledge hammer" treatment to bring the war to an end.
That starvation policy, as bad as it may seem, also saved a lot of lives by facilitating the "surrender of Biafra" very quickly otherwise just imagine how many more millions would have died on both sides, if the war did not end quickly and decisively?

America used the same "sledge hammer" policy, in Hiroshima and Osaka, when it dropped the Atomic bomb which ended that war immediately and the Japanese had to surrender immediately!
The loss of lives are however regrettable as all life are important.
But dont forget, IT IN A WAR SITUATION, PEOPLE WILL DIE

As for the Twenty Pounds policy, it is a general knowledge that any nation that loses a war, has to pay or offset "the cost" for that war, for years to come, .....to the victors. It also ensure that the loser does not (immediately) have access to funds, to start another war, for some time!

Germany had to pay for many years, to Europe and America, for losing the first and second world wars.
Iraq is still paying to America, using its Oil, for the Gulf wars.
The Twenty Pounds was the "after war offset-payment" in the Nigerian scenario.
It is still part of the "war clean-up effort" the "loser" of any war goes through hence the admonition that no one should take going to war lightly because if you lose, the consequences are far-reaching.

Awolowo knew this and hence he chose not to involve his Yoruba people in a war in 1967, when he was sure (or not sure) of winning at that point. That is how leaders who love their people and are wise, should do. [color=#000099]You preserve your people at all cost.
If anyone should apologise, it should be he who took that decision to go to war by SECEDING AT THAT POINT IN TIME, without properly looking at the success rate and the attendant consequences.
The phrase, "He STOOPEd..... so as TO CONQUER LATER", readily comes to mind[/color]

I am laying it out "very bare" to you here because l want you to be very clear about it.
I am not saying these painful things just to gloat at your misfortune of losing the war, mind you.
But it is critical you understand "how and why" things are really the way they are.



As for Fashola "deporting" Igbos, l think that issue has been discussed and explained properly and you should not use it as an excuse to justify your ill-feelings.

Here, we want to assist each other to forget the past, by telling the bitter truth, as it "was and is", then reconcile thereafter, if possible.

It is only the TRUTH that can set us free.


Thanks for your opinion


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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by SUBWAY101(m): 12:49am On Jul 15, 2015
God knows. I do nairaland e-war for fun then with them chino and co and it all ends on nairaland. I have got no hatred in me for yeebhoes except the normal e-bashing we all do for fun, but the before election drama and radio biafra has now awaken me. I listened to that radio and heard yeebhoe calling in that they are ready to kill my people anytime and waiting for command. Even the elderly ones do call in, an old woman even promise to donate money for ammunitions yet some bastard said we should fold our arms and keep looking. His facebook page is filled with hatred and curse words for other tribe and you still want us to keep quiet. The hatred is now mutual and may it be so.

You want biafra and yorubas are not the cause of your problem yet you planning how to kill us and you said we should keep quiet. We are not holding you, we dont rush to your region to disturb you there. You are the one rushing to ours and still looking for our trouble yet you want us to keep quiet. Nnamdi Kanu, God bless you for waking my spirit and planting the hatred. I am helping you spread it in Yorubaland and informing everyone to now listen to your curse words and genocide plans so they can know they are in the midst of there enemies.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by lastpage: 12:49am On Jul 15, 2015
pazienza:
You opening article is full of conjectures, lies and half truths, that had all been exposed and thoroughly trashed out here on NL time and time again.

It is safe to say that Yorubas have reached a point of no return in the lies and false propaganda against Ndiigbo, if after thorough debunking, you still stick to your half baked lies and half truths.

I mean, what's the point of this thread? To start going back and front on issues already discussed in the past? That will be a waste of time.

In summary, your thread belongs to nowhere but trash bin. Such a waste of internet space.

If l were you, even if l could not "repeat" the truth here or point out he "lies", l would just provide a link to it so that others might read it and make an "informed and independent opinion" on it truthfulness.
You just want everyone to swallow your own version of events, right? grin grin

Okay, you called it "half-truths", that means there are some truths in it, right?
We are getting there!

Pride makes it difficult to accept certain facts of life, at times, but we are not here to trade blame.
Its a sort of South Africa's "truth and reconciliation" thread.

"closing your eyes in daylight and saying it is Night time, does not make it night time" though! undecided

The truth will set you free, one day!

Thanks for your opinion.


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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by pazienza(m): 12:50am On Jul 15, 2015
SUBWAY101:


You cant beat a child and still tell him not to cry. The hatred is mutual, this is nairaland and not biafraland. We all have the right to comment on any thread on this board. No one is threatening you cos of biafra, you are the people making noise on radiobiafra that you will kill Yorubas and we are also letting you know you will all die in millions if you try it. I have got no yeebhoe friend anymore and also let them know now that the hatred is mutual. Declare your biafra and stop mentioning Yoruba everywhere, you cant be denigrating my tribe and want me to keep quiet. Are you crazy?

Nairaland is owned by a Yoruba man you all hate his people and its the property of NIGERIA. Leave our region and send our people away from your region, its a simple case. You cant be in my region and still threatening to kill me and want me to keep quiet. We will always return your insult daily until you all go back to your cursed land and leave us alone. We are enemies henceforth.


Lol! Nairaland is full of threat threads against Biafrans.
No Igbo man is interested in killing any Yoruba man, as long as you don't stand on our way out of the zoo, as long as you embrace you Arewa-Oduanistan republic, all will be fine. Don't know where you are getting the threats of Igbos killing Yorubas from, my guess is that like so many other lies your progenitors passed on to you that you now propagate, the Igbo threatening to kill Yorubas is all but a new addition to the folder. *grins*

No time in Hisory had Ndiigbo killed strangers in Igboland, unlike some people, we are not savages.

Nairaland can't be left for Yorubas to spread their falsehood against Ndiigbo, that was the mistakes our fore runners did, leaving the media propaganda to you lots. The New Igbo generation know better.

We will be here 24/7 to tear to shreds your falsehoods against Ndiigbo, we really do not care whether you want us here or not, we are here, deal with it anyway you want.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by lastpage: 12:54am On Jul 15, 2015
barcanista:
My Oga, we've dwelt so much on the event of 1967-70. We need to moved forward.

I concur with you brother! We need to move forward and we all need to speak to the "die-hards" in our different side of the divide.

Thanks.


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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by pazienza(m): 12:57am On Jul 15, 2015
lastpage:


If l were you, even if l could not "repeat" the truth here or point out he "lies", l would just provide a link to it so that others might read it and make an "informed and independent opinion" on it truthfulness.
You just want everyone to swallow your own version of events, right? grin grin

Okay, you called it "half-truths", that means there are some truths in it, right?
We are getting there!

Pride makes it difficult to accept certain facts of life, at times, but we are not here to trade blame.
Its a sort of South Africa's "truth and reconciliation" thread.

"closing your eyes in daylight and saying it is Night time, does not make it night time" though! undecided

The truth will set you free, one day!

Thanks for your opinion.


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How many times do I need to debunk those your lies on NL, yet after 2 months, you lots bring them all up again, like they were never debunked, like they were new.

I will gladly trash those your falsehoods again, but on a different thread and at my own time.
Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by Nobody: 12:59am On Jul 15, 2015
lastpage:
I read a thread by one of our Igbo brothers, linked here
Let us settle our differences, Igbo group tells Lagosians: https://www.nairaland.com/2450640/lets-settle-differences-igbo-group.
I think this is a very heart-warming and credible effort on the part of the group.

I have decided to create this response, as a way forward on the issue.
The idea is to "TRY" to explain things from the point of view of a Yoruba person so that once we know what the issues are, we can begin to iron them out.


you are very drunk to post that Ironsi led that coup.

I stopped reading from that line onward.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by klevjey: 1:00am On Jul 15, 2015
logica:
Akintola once referred to the University of Ibadan in which the Igbo VC elected to employ 109 Igbos and just 3 Yorubas right there in the Yoruba heartland. He mentioned this in a video aptly titled "Idi wahala laarin Yoruba ati Igbo". Now you think of it; what manner of a person can be so brazenly nepotistic? You bring a stranger into your house in the name of "Pan Africanism", then rather than feed your children, he starts taking your food to the land he came from. That person takes you for a great f0ol and has no iota of regard for you; neither does he know what decorum is.

That summarizes the problem. It goes beyond the civil war. It was there before the civil war, and it remained after.

what of alakija and odetola owning oil wells in south south?
Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by pazienza(m): 1:04am On Jul 15, 2015
1.) That the killings between the Hausas
and Igbos "aggravated" as a result of
Nigeria's first bloody coup led by Aguiyi
Ironsi.
There had been 'pockets of discontent'
between the two hitherto, as the Northern
Muslim is not renowned for being very
tolerant, especially of an aggressive guest
as the business-oriented igbos living in
the North, turned out to be. An Huasa
"reprisal coup" lead to Aguiyi ironsi's
death later. This is the genesis of the Civil
war, in one paragraph.


The coup was not led by Ironsi, it was led by Nzeogwu, though Odua-Arewanistans are currently holding Ifeajuna responsible for the coup, ever since they learnt that Nzeogwu hailed from a part of Igboland in SS, and in keeping with their no Igbos outside SE Post civil war mantra, the coup can't remain Igbo coup, if Nzeogwu is allowed to be the progenitor, a man from SE would be better, hence the New preference for Ifeajuna.

What exactly did Ndiigbos in North do that qualified them as "aggressive guests" as you termed them?
Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by SUBWAY101(m): 1:04am On Jul 15, 2015
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pazienza:



Lol! Nairaland is full of threat threads against Biafrans.
No Igbo man is interested in killing any Yoruba man, as long as you don't stand on our way out of the zoo, as long as you embrace you Arewa-Oduanistan republic, all will be fine. Don't know where you are getting the threats of Igbos killing Yorubas from, my guess is that like so many other lies your progenitors passed on to you that you now propagate, the Igbo threatening to kill Yorubas is all but a new addition to the folder. *grins*

No time in Hisory had Ndiigbo killed strangers in Igboland, unlike some people, we are not savages.

Nairaland can't be left for Yorubas to spread their falsehood against Ndiigbo, that was the mistakes our fore runners did, leaving the media propaganda to you lots. The New Igbo generation know better.

We will be here 24/7 to tear to shreds your falsehoods against Ndiigbo, we really do not care whether you want us here or not, we are here, deal with it anyway you want.
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Threat about what? How can a sane Yoruba man open a thread to threaten you cos you want to go to biafra. What are we benefiting from yeebhoes? Nothing. You have oil and we have oil as well, there is nothing you have that we dont have in abundance. So whats the problem?

You are a born liar and reason I now hate you ediots. What is Arewa-oduanistan? Shameless being, face your biafra alone and anything that happens after biafra is not your concern or problem. You should be worried about biafra alone and nothing more. You mean Nnamdi Kanu is an Hausa man, so all the threats and curse words on radio biafra is what? You have no shame and you are even comfortable posting lies here. Go to Nnamdi Kanu facebook, or listen to his programme and you will hear the daily threats. We are not complaining about his threat, so you should not ever complain when a Yoruba person threaten you as well. The threat and curse should be mutual, if you bring your war you will regret it as usual. We are not holding you from declaring your biafra or war, Kanu is the ediot making the noise daily.

No one is pursuing you away from nairaland, we are only reminding you that this is a Nigerian forum owned by a Yoruba man and we all have the right to comment on any thread. If you dont want us to comment on anything biafra, go open Nigeria Forum and no Yoruba man will disturb you there. In as much as you post your trash here, we will always be there to curse you animals. You people are the one that open threads daily to cry about how others hate you, or how they insult you, we are always ready anyway you bring it.

We are not complaning of your threat cos its now mutual, here is a post of Nnamdi Kanu recently on facebook as posted by a nairalander, telling his people to kill any Hausa and Yoruba bastard yet this cursed animal said Yeebhoes are not threatening to kill anyone. Shameless liar.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by pazienza(m): 1:08am On Jul 15, 2015
Largas:
you are very drunk to post that Ironsi led that coup.

I stopped reading from that line onward.

Argh! Nwanne, don't spoil the fun for me.
Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by lastpage: 1:08am On Jul 15, 2015
sweetgala:


Igbo children are often thought to have a distrust of their Yoruba friends. A Yoruba parent would not often call their child aside say" be careful of that Igbo boy" however Igbo parents use false tales of the civil war to cloud their kids judgement

Distrust should not be spread into the minds of innocent children!

This is why we adults need to "come to terms" with our history.

Some of our Brothers still think the war is still ongoing and there is going to be a trophy next tomorrow?

we all need to take a deep breath and take a step backwards..... detach our feelings from the issue and examine it like outsiders.

For example, l ask myself: If l am a Ghananian, and somebody attacks Accra, what would l do?
Would l provide Bread for that person so he can have strength for the next day fight, after being exhausted killing my own people or would l throw his remaining bread into the pit so he can starve and not have strength to fight the next day?
That is the "mentality of war" and it is human nature.

We have all tried our best but the war was over almost 50years ago! We need to get over it and dont spread it into future generations

Its like a divorced husband and wife with children, they hate each other so much but the children between the means they cannot "completely sever the cord" between them cleanly as they both would like to do, hence, the best thing to do is to "manage it amicably" with the children's interest being uppermost in the minds of both parties!
But like most women, "some" of our Igbo brothers will use the children as a weapon of punishment to their spouse! grin grin

It may not sound good coming from a Yoruba person but l have not seen a single place where any Igbo has accepted their role in the whole fiasco? Is it that Igbos never did anything to precipitate the war or were they "saints" just sitting idle during the war?
Why the denial? Its not a shame to admit you are wrong, if you are wrong


Thanks for your opinion.


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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by pazienza(m): 1:16am On Jul 15, 2015
SUBWAY101:
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Threat about what? How can a sane Yoruba man open a thread to threaten you cos you want to go to biafra. What are we benefiting from yeebhoes? Nothing. You have oil and we have oil as well, there is nothing you have that we dont have in abundance. So whats the problem?

You are a born liar and reason I now hate you ediots. What is Arewa-oduanistan? Shameless being, face your biafra alone and anything that happens after biafra is not your concern or problem. You should be worried about biafra alone and nothing more. You mean Nnamdi Kanu is an Hausa man, so all the threats and curse words on radio biafra is what? You have no shame and you are even comfortable posting lies here. Go to Nnamdi Kanu facebook, or listen to his programme and you will hear the daily threats. We are not complaining about his threat, so you should not ever complain when a Yoruba person threaten you as well. The threat and curse should be mutual, if you bring your war you will regret it as usual. We are not holding you from declaring your biafra or war, Kanu is the ediot making the noise daily.

No one is pursuing you away from nairaland, we are only reminding you that this is a Nigerian forum owned by a Yoruba man and we all have the right to comment on any thread. If you dont want us to comment on anything biafra, go open Nigeria Forum and no Yoruba man will disturb you there. In as much as you post your trash here, we will always be there to curse you animals. You people are the one that open threads daily to cry about how others hate you, or how they insult you, we are always ready anyway you bring it.

We are not complaning of your threat cos its now mutual, here is a post of Nnamdi Kanu recently on facebook as posted by a nairalander, telling his people to kill any Hausa and Yoruba bastard yet this cursed animal said Yeebhoes are not threatening to kill anyone. Shameless liar.

Why should an Arewa-Oduanistan be searching for Radio Biafra in Biafraland? Why should they feel threatened by Radio Biafra as to be searching for it.

You search for Radio Biafra location to bring harm to innocent Biafrans, and you feel threatened when they issue you the same threat by instructing Biafrans to bring death to you, if you attempt to bring death to Biafrans operating radio Biafra, are you sure you are sane?

Where in that message did Kanu instruct Biafrans to harm Yorubas that are not threatening harm to radio Biafra? What did I tell you about making sure you stay out of our way to freedom?

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by tiger28: 1:16am On Jul 15, 2015
My deep deeper deepest dislike towards Igbos was borne out of (1) Their audacity to claim that lagos is a no man's land. Only a BASTARD will deny his/her region and die over another man's land. The worst of it all?with all the MANY tribes that live in lagos, ONLY igbos are the ones killing themselves over lagos (2a) igbos public charade during the Lagos gubernatorial election . Imagine these people DEMANDED for an IGBO DEPUTY GOVERNOR?(no other tribe has ever demanded for their tribe to be deputy governor of any igbo state,they will NEVER do so because only BASTARDS die over another man's land)hence their double loss in the elections relegated them further down to 5th class citizens (2b) igbos asking the Lagos State government to start celebrating their new yam festival like Yorubas celebrate Eyo festival in lagos.Imagine? My dislike will never change as long as they keep disrespecting their host ALL over the world e.g South Africa,Malaysia.The easiest thing is to give them their Biafra so P square and phyno can only perform in owerri or else they will need a visa.

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Re: "Settling Our Differences With Igbos": What Yorubas Think, - A Rejoinder by lastpage: 1:16am On Jul 15, 2015
Largas:
you are very drunk to post that Ironsi led that coup.

I stopped reading from that line onward.

Do you want me to post the members of that Coup or was it not Igbos that staged it or was Ironsi not the one made the Head of state after that Coup by his Igbo brothers and was he not Igbo?
The important thing isnot even who led the Coup, the important thing was "What happened in that Coup"...

And that is that "Northern Political and Military Elites were COMPLETELY ERASED ....by the Igbos

Dont you as an Igbo person find that abhorrent and unnecessary?
Do you actually think they (Northerners) would fold their hands and not revenge, in a very polarised Nigeria back then?
Why do Igbos, never for once condemn this "Elite Genocide" on the Northerners and only talk about their own "Genocide' which even happened in a war situation?


"Truth and Fairness" is very important in detoxifying one's spirit.

Thanks for your opinion



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